#10MinuteTalk

[@chadperry4021]

I agree with 243 being top choice. It’s been a around for a long time and it’s not really going to leave you wishing it was something else.

[@tedsell1455]

So Versital and Accurate !

[@bertpulaski2492]

Been using mine since the early 90’s from coyote to hogs to whitetail.

[@chadperry4021]

I agree with Ryan it is basically a 22-250 with more mass. I taught many coworkers who had never shot a gun before the joy of hitting a 2 liter soda from across the field.

[@dbart45]

.243 Federal 80 grain soft points. Oh yeah!

[@nmelkhunter1]

Well said. Best of luck in the field. 🍻

[@jjgriffin3275]

LOVE the 6 ARC.... this is an AMAZING round and needs to be talked about more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@russherbert839]

Well…not too much cuz I still need more brass!!

[@jjgriffin3275]

@@russherbert839 its on a bunch of websites just sells out fast, shows its a popular round, but yes needs more support, bc its so popular

[@billwell9266]

love mine

[@onebadjack1313]

@@russherbert839 amen

[@tripplebeards3427]

Still the same bullet shot out of a 243 but a little bit slower does the same thing.

[@brettb614]

Currently running 223 out of gas gun but I really love my 25-6 bolt rig, threaded on the end for a can of course

[@klo910]

I think bullet selection Is more important than cartridge. 22 caliber 62gr gold dot and 6mm 90gr sierra TGK.

[@gordyowens9570]

What about 220 swift?

[@ronlowney4700]

🤠 If You're a Farmer/Rancher, You Want 1 Gun ("Ranch Gun") That You Always Carry Around in Your Truck That Can "Do It All", As Your Driving Around on Your Property! Thus, You Want "Something" That Can Shoot Heavier Bullets and Can Be Used On Anything That You Encounter! For Me, Here In Western Montana, That's The 270 Winchester - Which Shoots 80 grain to 180 grain Bullets! 🤑

[@bradedwards3438]

I love how all these 10 Minutes Talks are a half hour long.

[@mrjeffjob]

I was just noticing the 33:21 time on the “10” minute talk also. Get to the point guys. The longer it takes to say the less likely the info is worth the investment of time.

[@MJSherwood]

Would be nice to get back to the 10 minute then post a long format too. Double the views

[@JAKDRZR]

If you don’t care about the fur a 25-06 with 85gr nosler or 90gr sierra blitzing at around 3600fps is absolutely amazing on yotes!!

[@foonus406]

Devastating on the barrel life too!

[@cameronbaker7959]

@@foonus406 barrels are consumables

[@kirkmartin2223]

Let's say barrel life is 1200 rounds..... if I get the opportunity to take 1000 shots during any hunting scenario with one rifle I'm going to be a very happy guy! A new barrel CAN cost less than $500. All said and done the most expensive component in a rifle are the bullets.

[@JAKDRZR]

@@foonus406 you’ll get 2000 rounds through it easy.

[@charlesmullins3238]

My 6.5prc waypoint drives the 95gr v max over 3600fps…3666fps my highest so far…little to hot so i backed em down a scotch…havnt shot game yet but man what it does to a 20oz at 250yrds is wicked….itll send pieces n all directions if you center punch one…my fn spr .308 puts 110v max and varmageddons over 3500fos from 24” barrel and just as devastating…dyin to hit something besides jugs to test penetration and expansion which is minimal…

[@bryanheard5278]

22-250 is my choice. Ruger M77 hearvy barrel. The topic is best coyote caliber not dual purpose caliber.

[@stevenlewis6781]

Guy I knew made a pretty decent supplemental income with that exact same setup. This was before the days when calling was really a thing, and a good pelt would fetch 60-70 dollars. He had a knack for spotting them and would get 40-50 a year. Back in the 70s that was pretty serious money.

[@ThrowingItAway]

I found it a bit annoying that Ryan kept coming back to hunting deer when the question was Coyotes. 243 would likely pass through and isn't moving as fast with more drop.

[@TheTrueNorth11]

Barrel burner though.

[@muleycrazy121]

220 swift

[@Stewart7516]

Im a fan of a fast twist 22-250 with a 60 grain pill of various assortments. The ability to hold on hair out to 300-500 yards when a hasty shot is required is nearly unprecedented

[@happyhorsexxx]

I think you were talking about close to the idyllic Setup for foxes. I live in Australia so we do not have coyotes

[@Stewart7516]

@happyhorsexxx I bet it would work on Dingos killing your livestock too. Or are Dingos protected?

[@Stewart7516]

@happyhorsexxx but yes.. it works wonders on grey and red fox as well. Also bobcat and Lynx while we're talking about it.

[@jeffbyram9043]

Only knock on 250, it doesn’t buck the wind as well

[@Stewart7516]

@jeffbyram9043 it does a great job of it with a 75 grain bullet. But honestly how far out can you shoot a coyote? Let's be honest, on a yote 500 yards might as well be a mile. As fast as that bullets moving it doesn't drop much all things considered.

[@derekcombs6497]

I run a 75 grain vmax in a .243 win MV-3470 (avg) I'm in SE Missouri . Shots vary greatly. Depending on where I'm hunting. Most of the time we are hunting over hayfields. (Because we like to shoot long) we typically hunt in 2 or 3 man teams. Each guy has a different job and weapon. The caller is in charge of the call and decoy he is usually running the shotgun loaded with 3" #4 buck and a XF choke. The Postman (Because he sends it) will carry the bolt gun. And is responsible for all long shots. And if there is a 3rd guy we call him the Pepper, he carries an .223 ar with lpvo and is responsible for dogs on the run. So as Ryan would say "it depends" but ultimately they will all wax a song dog. That's how my crew does it in SEMO. Good luck out there and hunt safe

[@justice1327]

I deer hunt down in licking and salem mo. Would love to go hunting with your crew for song dogs.

[@bruceeckstein9311]

Sounds like you’ve got all possible scenarios covered… well planned

[@mrjeffjob]

Postman because he sends it. Love. That. Many thanks 😊

[@leeturner3143]

If there is such a thing as the perfect coyote setup, Ryan's new Howa Carbon in 6ARC is a strong contender for that title. We need an update!

[@benjaminsims9046]

While I don’t hunt dogs, I’m a little surprised that the .22WMR didn’t at least come into the conversation

[@waynehendrix4806]

I have to tread very carefully here, but after hearing the mini-14 video... I'm questioning the intelligence of "this channel".

[@illinidave]

No good over 100-130 tops is why

[@danielcurtis1434]

@@waynehendrix4806I can say with certainty their “historical expert” guy is a joke who gets tons wrong. This channel is flawed probably because it’s a podcast???

[@Internaught-The-Wise]

​@@waynehendrix4806what did they say about the mini?

[@kross1261]

@@waynehendrix4806years ago I had unfortunately had a lot of issues with 3 different AR’s. Went to mini 14 target out of frustration. Took off the barrel resonator and put on a rubber Hogue stock. 1-1 1/2” groups at a 100 yards. Has never jammed and very reliable and pretty handy. Awesome road gun. Now it’s not my sneak gun but I really like it. Now the regular mini 14’s yes are pretty bad when it comes to accuracy

[@rus2092]

I think given a few more years, the 6 ARC will be a stand-out Coyote round.

[@whiskerbiscuit99]

Already is, sooo many guys around me have switched to it, especially handloaders. Seems like every dog hunter around me is running it in an ar platform now. Most very content, now with 22 arc several are chompin at that bit lol.

[@kochj0713]

And y’all know that we load them up up to bolt rifle specs there’s no reason you can’t especially when using the proper bolt on an AR it’ll last for a long time

[@gregz4249]

I have 243 , I doubt I will shoot out the barrel,so I don’t see any reason to change since have gun have components even if a better cartridge comes along Very happy with 243 Winchester

[@davidbecker7571]

Hmm, not likely... it will fall from gra e in the field like the overrated 6.5CM

[@CarsonSchell-l3b]

Please rename this podcast to “22 reasons why Ryan has beef with the 22-250”

[@chevyon37s]

Dude has random beef with a few great cartridges.

[@nmelkhunter1]

@@chevyon37s Yes he does. I remember he said it pained him to acknowledge how good the 270 Win is. Really Ryan? I'm not sure if he's just stirring the pot or this just a chance for him to air his grievances to the world.

[@CarsonSchell-l3b]

243 is “ok” at everything… however here in the dakotas not many deer/pronghorn get taken with rifles after November so the WAAAAAAAY too large 243 projectiles are much to destructive on pelts!!!! 🎙️⬇️ In all reality my hunting partner shoots 243 and he anchors coyotes lol!

[@cameronbaker7959]

@@linescum444 it is

[@kab5275]

He doesn’t like the 250 bc he doesn’t own one and has never had the “wow” factor of how inheritently accurate the cartridge is. You can have it in a gas gun if you want Also I think my 243 with a brake kicks harder then my 22-250 does

[@tjb7850]

.243 for me, used to use a .204 but wolf population is getting high and i wanted some extra horsepower for the big pups

[@jameslovesjammie]

.204 is SUPER popular for coyotes in Eastern Montana.

[@randyfrieler5524]

Minnesotan here, got four 204's in our p.dog hunting group that we take to s. Dakota.

[@lukebiller1747]

I don't understand his "lead balloon" comment @@randyfrieler5524

[@kevinmartin2096]

lol no it’s not.

[@kevinmartin2096]

lol no it’s not. Either 243 or 22-250

[@jameslovesjammie]

@@kevinmartin2096 Where are you at? I ran a gun store from 2015-2021 in North East Montana. We sold a TON of .204. Most popular for coyotes has always been .223, .22-250. Sold about a case of 58 grain .243 V-Max every 2 years.

[@buckaroobonsi555]

I am a 6,5 Grendel guy because I have the rifle, the brass, bullets, the dies. It has been around for 20 years. Howa has made a 6.5 Grendel for a long long time and plenty of AR from PSA to Alexander Arms. Ruger makes a bolt gun in 6.5 Grendel and I am sure they have an Arc as well if not they will!

[@MontanaWillie44]

Grendel is awesome. I have a bolt and gas rifle in it. 6 ARC is great too. Ruger already has a 6 ARC and is chambering it in their new Gen 2 line.

[@jakal104]

6.5 Grendel 👍👍 Ruger 👎👎

[@dustinschaefer1]

Just built my own grendel in an AR for deer or yotes or whatever else comes by

[@NotACop247]

Agreed. I have a PSA 20” Grendel that’ll shoot lights out over any of my bolt guns. I load Shooters World Match Rifle with a 120gr TTSX or even a 120gr SMK on top, and I consistently get 0.5-0.6, maybe 0.7 MOA on a rough day off a bipod and rear bag. Both the TTSX and the SMK overlap with the same load data out to 400 yards. My record on a pasture poodle is 363 yards, and I’d be very comfortable with 400 and 100% guaranteed DOA with 1 shot through a Pulsar thermal. But my next setup will likely be a Savage 25 chambered in .204. That speed just has me all hot and bothered.

[@DustyNeedham]

Elmer Keith claimed the .270 win is adequate for coyotes. As far a killing them, it is fine. Keeping them in one piece is another story with a 130 grain sst going 3k ish fps…

[@gcbahamafisho5439]

223 definitely does the job. I know it’s not cartridge talks but con we bring in more about barrel life in the talks? Especially when it comes to varmints. Including magnum calibres. Love the podcast. Great work guys

[@foonus406]

The industry tends to hide the fact that barrels are a disposable component - perhaps not to scare away potential customers with an increased operating cost. It's the main reason i grab a 6.5 when my more accurate harder hitting 300PRC sits in the safe - barrel life. Worst experience i have had for varminting was with a Savage .17WSM that shot lights out new but after only 2 days and 2 cases of ammo (only 1000 rounds) the barrel was throwing groups almost 4 times the size of when it was new. We bore scoped it - cleaned it to bare metal - still would not shoot. Really opened my eyes as to how fast you can burn out a barrel on a fast chambering.

[@cameronbaker7959]

@@foonus406 yes barrels are consumables…. It is what it is shoot as much as you want they’re relatively cheap

[@midwestbd7144]

For 95% of people barrel life doesn’t really matter. If you know about barrel life/care about it you probably already know what calibers to avoid.

[@foonus406]

@@cameronbaker7959 True enough but the ratio of 1 barrel to 1 gopher colony is a very painful cost added to your ammo and gasoline. Stepped back to a .22LR that's accurate up to a couple hundred yards and between the ammo cost and the fact it wont burn barrels its great for the job.

[@cameronbaker7959]

@@foonus406 i think every figure in that statement is exaggerated but 👍🏻

[@pjbarney9580]

South Texas ... I use my 6.5 grendel lighter weight bullets for the added velocity... much like the .243 concept. it's a great middleweight contender. I have an 18" gas gun. but have taken deer and hogs also. most stuff down here is considerably smaller due ti climate and food sources😊

[@LRRPFco52]

Have you looked at Hammer 80gr 6.5mm for the Grendel? It will do 3020-3120fps from an 18”. 90gr TNT Federal factory ammo is great too, as is the 95gr V-MAX. 90gr Federal TNT does 2900fps from my 17.6” Lilja Grendel.

[@pjbarney9580]

@@LRRPFco52 I will have to look into those, Thanks

[@LRRPFco52]

@@pjbarney9580 Even 110gr PPU has been very flat-shooting for me from my 12" Grendel. I've made multiple 1st-round hits at 780yds with it, no misses, then connected 1st-round at 900yds on a 1.5-2 MOA plate. Couldn't believe it.

[@zekethefishgeek8690]

Maker Trex 85gr bullet...

[@boogerdog5247]

​@LRRPFco52 I have a great number of .264 Les Baer Custom in 20" barrels and built grandson a 6.5 Grendel in 16" all Type II. I love the 6.5 Grendel cartridge but finding ammo flat out sucks. It's a shame too.

[@leeviwerner4629]

Been running 6 ARC last two years and currently building 22 ARC not speed demons but super efficient. Small rifle primer and ar15 mag length. Hard to beat.

[@BlueCollarRay]

As a 6.5 Grendel lover, of coarse the Grendel is the best. And is a gas gun, and kills Deer, I reload so I’m biased. Just rest easy, I’m right and everyone else is wrong….🤥 unless it’s almost every other rifle cartridge made😀😀😀 we all got our favorites. I think the yotes are in trouble. Loved the conversation!

[@TAWier]

I love this cartridge so much that I now have 3 rifles in this cartridge. One is an AR-15, one Ruger American, and a Howa 1500. Both bolt guns shoot lights out! My AR is less accurate, with most groups averaging around an 1 1/2 to 2 inches.

[@BlueCollarRay]

@@TAWier I agree. I have the Howa also. It’s scary accurate. I really appreciate it when I get another rifle out. I’m in Tennessee…so the Grendel covers everything. My cousin in Montana kills Elk with his. I’ve never done that, but I don’t doubt what he says..

[@Thepaintballinfool]

Grendel is also my favorite

[@clayrog6405]

Grendel is my latest build in the AR platform. I just polished all the touch points and disassembled the bolt and polished everything, so it moved easily when lubed lightly. The results of a cheap 20-inch BCA side charging upper, when paired with a tight lower with a 3.5 lb. Drop in trigger is groups you can easily cover with your thumb at 100 yds. I also have a BCA 350 legend 18 inch, that after a lot of polishing and mag mods, gets the same 100 yd groups . The cold hammer forged barrels have been quite impressive so far. So, I'd yote with either because I live in East Texas and shots over 200 yds are rare.

[@ludeguy]

I fall into this group as well. My 6.5 Grendel AR build is a tack driver… also love my 224 Valkyrie for coyote.

[@bruceyoung6112]

25/06 hands down.

[@CurtMcElvain]

I love the 25/06, soooo easy to reload and devastation on anything you hit! Blows the 243 out of the water, in fact on this podcast, they stated the 25/06 blows the 6.5 C out the water. And it does out to 3-400 yds.

[@bruceyoung6112]

I am strongly considering a tikka t3x and get barrel chambered for the 25/06 AI with a 1 in 7 twist. Talking about smoking the 6.5 cm.

[@raywall5945]

AI that and she is Lights out in yote town. Not good if you want fur though.

[@geralddunn9138]

204 all the way! Shot placement! If you can cover 3,4,5 shots with a nickel 204 no questions!

[@worksonjunk]

Theres a lot of calibers you can do that with

[@seetownwv]

22 Creed is way more popular than you all think. 22 Creed where your restricted to 22 cal for sure. I think New York is only 20 cal. I'd probably do 243 if i could. An once you go thermal you can't go back lol

[@mikecrockett3669]

Trump is the best caliber against coyotes… Oh, wait. You meant actual 4 legged coyotes. Oops.

[@WiIdbiII]

The rifle caliber you own will do just fine for coyote. It's not big game.

[@richarddoty1498]

Old tote hunter told me "more coyote are shot with a .223 than any other round, and more coyote are wounded and lost with a .223"

[@John_439]

And more people think that they can shoot proficiently than actually can. 223/556 is plenty of gun if you actually know how to shoot and are capable at the ranges you are shooting at. Could you go bigger sure go have fun with 300 win mag. But if you are actually a skilled shooter and not some fud ok with their dinner plate accuracy at 100m you should be just fine with 223.

[@21psd]

@@John_439 well stated

[@ThrowingItAway]

I'd argue that the velocity of the 22-250 makes it better than the 223 at 200-300 on a moving target which wasn't discussed. You're looking at half the drop, and 33-50% more energy from the 22-250 by the time you're out there.

[@foonus406]

If your coyotes have spotted you at 2-300 yards and are running - you've got bigger issues to deal with than your rifle's chambering..

[@ThrowingItAway]

That's a lot of assumptions@@foonus406

[@baitammo4652]

you ar correct! SPEED KILLS!!

[@packerjh2]

22 creedmoor

[@ThrowingItAway]

No one is chambering 22 CM yet, it was only approved a few months ago. I'd love to get a Tikka in 22 CM when they finally get around to making one.@@packerjh2

[@joelclark2130]

243, In a gas Gun . short Barrel.16 inches You are giving up nothing.l

[@Yellowsierra02]

6.5CM is a very popular chambing in todays rifles. I picked up a sig cross in 6.5cm for coyote hunting because it made since to me. light weight, accurate, packable, removable mags and the 18” barrel works great with a suppressor. Ive been using it for 2 years now for nothing but coyotes and havent looked back. 90gr Noslers and 95vmax work awesome on coyotes. 187 Coyotes where taken with that rifle in 2023. Im excited for the new 100gr eld-VT. Hopefully I will get to try those out soon.

[@eskimoreloader]

I use 204 and 22-250 on ring seals. Bearded seals here in the Arctic in Baffin Island

[@bsa526]

With the possibility of wind, and longer shots, the 243 is a great choice with the availability of the ammo.

[@johnparker9139]

In the Appalachian mountains the 223 gas gun is best. I’ve used everything from 55 grain sp to 75 gr BTHP.

[@DanTheMailman330]

Bolt gun: 22-250 with a 55gr ballistic tip Gas gun: 6.5 Grendel with about a 110gr varmint projectile. A close second would be an AR -10 in .243

[@kingrider75]

I use many but I love my 204 ruger for daylight hunts! Pretty cool seeing bullet impacts

[@jigrig6010]

YEAH .204 RUGER IS SUPREME

[@lukejames2049]

I thermal hunt here in Indiana and I’ve never had a coyote get away after I hit it with a 32 grain 204

[@kingrider75]

@@lukejames2049same here. I’ve never lost one with mine and rarely had runners! I shoot a hand loaded 39 blitzking and it’s absolutely deadly

[@matthewyingling6490]

The best coyote gun is the one you have!

[@johngeisel901]

55 gr sierra 1365 in a 22-250 22-250 ai 220 swift or 22 creed is a sweet spot for performance and minimal pelt damage

[@wmsteinman8166]

100% Sierra #1365

[@laneh1968]

My last two coyotes were taken with 450 Bushmaster. It was devastating. I’m in heavy wooded area so distance is not a concern. I wanted a cartridge for hogs, deer, coyote, and anything else that needs dropping in its tracks.

[@danielrobey1759]

That'll damn sure do it 😂😂😂

[@cameronbaker7959]

😐😐😂

[@reillyberg7761]

After what I saw a 250gr do to my doe a couple years ago it must have damn near cut those coyotes in half 😂

[@cameronbaker7959]

Went straight past 6,.25,6.5,6.8, 7mm, .30,.33,and .35 😂

[@VortexVortex2724]

Thats one expensive and gruesome coyote kill lol

[@johnstewart7022]

I find these "what is the ideal caliber?" discussions very entertaining. It's good for the deer camp discussion, the barroom debate and so on. Personally, here's my take: What is the ideal caliber for coyote? My answer: .308 What is the ideal caliber for eastern woodland white tail deer? My answer: .308 What is the ideal caliber for elk? My answer: .308 What is the ideal caliber for feral hogs? My answer: .308 Are you seeing a trend here? I ask myself: Can I hit the target in a vital area? Will it deliver enough power for a clean kill? If the answer is yes and yes, then it's right. Other calibers work well, of course, but I choose .308 because I have one I shoot very well, and it kills cleanly. As Col. Cooper said "If you shoot something with the .308, it stays shot." ...plus the inexpensive availability of NATO 7.62mm M80 ball encourages frequent practice without the chore of reloading. What else is needed? Well, thanks for an entertaining podcast, and please keep up the good work.

[@mikedundee65]

I like your logic

[@stephensmith6599]

Have you considered the .308?

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Ideal and acceptable arent the same word.

[@chasekrohn6346]

308 is king of versatility. Carries plenty of energy out to and past 500 yards👌

[@brokenarrow2835]

Anything from 22 mag too 243 calibers...

[@andrewpalmer7364]

You guys should look at long range ar15 cartridges. 224 Valkyrie, 6.5 Grendel, 22 arc, etc

[@nocturnalspecialties642]

224 valkyrie has been a disappointment for me and some buddys. I went back to 223 and been happy

[@jakal104]

Valkyrie and Grendel are great for coyotes.

[@nocturnalspecialties642]

@jakal104 yea if you can get one to shoot decent

[@whiskeyplz4891]

24" barrel and a fast twist rate worked for me out of my AR. But I never intended it to be more then about a 300 yard gun. Got to be a realist right

[@andrewpalmer7364]

Since I found a load in my 224 that shot well, I can pretty consistently get hits past 800 yards, and 1000 yards, although tricky, is fairly realistic.

[@jeffh5664]

Can't believe you left out .22 Hornet for Coyotes

[@mosel42]

I think you have to separate them into fur friendly and not fur friendly. 204, 223, 22-250, 22 dpc, or 22 arc. Non fur friendly, 22 creed, 6 creed, 243, and bigger. Since I own multiple of those calibers, my favorite is the 22 dpc (Thanks Desert Precision).

[@foonus406]

Tell that to the ammo manufacturers too, who have all but dropped anyting this is not extremely fragmenting for "awe factor" among new shooters. Very few fur friendly bullets left in .224

[@justice1327]

The 22-250 and the 22 Creed are almost identical in performance… Why would one be fur friendly, and the other, not providing the bullets are the same?

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

I believe my 25-250 (aka 250 Savage, 250-3000) is the perfect combo compromise.

[@MrToddles12]

Just got a savage 99 in 250-3000 as well. Great little round.

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

​@@MrToddles12nice! Mine is a hand built Remington 600 Mohawk.

[@whiskeyplz4891]

I love my 224 valkyrie for yotes. Not sure if you have done a episode on the round. Like what it could have been and where it went wrong

[@jakal104]

Yep, Valkyrie is a much better caliber than 223... except for popularity.

[@cobra1995xx]

id like to go back to the days of cheap 22-250 ammo thanks lol

[@danielback3236]

If a 223 is good enough and a 243 is the best at anchoring and longer distance. The 22-250 has to be perfect. I run 22-250 mostly, 243 for wintertime coats and longer distances. TSS #2 is pretty hard to beat in the shotgun.

[@erich44magnum]

243 and a 223 all situations covered…

[@ryewaldman2214]

similar to the 6 arc is the 6.5 grendel, which will also be available soon with a 100 grain eld-vt load. Like the 6 arc, it will make predators plenty dead without undesirable rapid unscheduled disassembly

[@Kross8761]

As a caveat to my previous comment, the 6ARC is also a phenomenal choice for coyotes due to the bullets it is currently loaded with, in particular the 108gr ELD-M. The ELD-M bullets aren't expressly designed for hunting, but they can do the job well as long as they're not pushed to ridiculous velocities. They act like a middle ground between an ELD-X and a V-Max, they have a thinner jacket and "weaker" construction kind of luke a V-Max, but have a lot more weight and sectional density, and penetrate a lot more like an ELD-X while still allowing for more rapid expansion than you'd typically see with an ELD-X. For the game that i hunt, with the cartridges i shoot, i have begun to adore the ELD-M bullet design because it gives a lot of forgiveness when you get to lower velocities in terms of minimum velocity required for expansion. If you start them out at modest velocities and allow the B.C. to do its job, then they turn moderate rifles into bona-fide hammers even at long(er) distances. I hunt big game with a 7mm-08 and I KNOW that that cartridge, loaded with a 162gr ELD-M will have enough velocity to allow for great expansion while still xarrying ample energy for even elk-sized game out to 500 and even 600yds, all while not pushing bullet failure at closer ranges like 50-100yds. If my shot is further than 600yds I'm either not taking it or doing my damnedest to get closer, im not looking for tye longest shot i can possibly take, but i want to know that if im confident i can hit the animal i can out it down cleanly and quickly. The 6ARC loaded with a 108gr ELD-M will do that for any coyote at any range I'm willing to shoot one, my 7mm-08 loaded with a 162gr ELD-M will do that for any larger animal I would ever encounter at the ranges I'd shoot them too. If used properly the ELD-M is an absolutely marvelous bullet. The 73gr variety in .223 is what i have loaded in my home defense gun, and I know for a fact that it will perform and expand all the way out to 500+yds from my AR while still being devastating up close if i ever have to use it. One of my first deer when i got back into hunting as an adult was taken with a 73gr ELD-M from my AR and it turned the heart and lungs into soup. I ised it on the recommendation from a friend who hunts with his AR and that's what started me on my journey of loving and professing the benefits of the ELD-M bullet design. It DOES. NOT. handle extremely high velocity impacts well though, so i am not trying to claim its perfect. But as long as your impact velocity is between 2600-1300fps you will observe very lethal results with proper shot placement. It tends to perform best out of "normal" modest cartridges like .308, 7mm-08, or 6.5 Creedmoor. pushing it much faster than 2800fps can give you undesirable results unless you're ONLY shooting past 300+yds for more "powerful" cartridges. ELD-M is just ELD-X that performs at lower velocities, do with that information what you will.

[@lukeonderko8696]

If you don't care about fur, the options are endless. A hot rod 6mm is hard to beat(243,6creed,6x284 ect). If you care about fur, I love the 204

[@str8shooter159]

Buddy of mine took a couple the other morning with a 22hornet

[@jakewhite4321]

coyotes are front leg drive. That’s why they elongate when running.

[@justice1327]

22 Creed. When are you going to test before and after Cryo performance of your barrel?

[@VortexNation]

Thanks for the Reminder! Mark B

[@mchankerhoff853]

243 goat

[@bboness713]

If you're going gas gun why not 6.5 grendel or 6 arc?

[@brennenlee7715]

More muzzle blast in a 22-250!!! What!!!... Maybe you should try one with a longer barrel or not run it so hot then... Im sorry but the 22-250 is better than 223 in every way... You dont have to run them at the bleeding edge and theyll still outperform a 223 on a mild load

[@jasonlopez4855]

Oug of 223 or the 243 I'll get the 243 in a LR- 243 package l don't have a problem carrying it. I now i can just get a new top receiver for 6.5 creedmore one for all. The 243 is a speed demon drop my mule deer this year with 100 gr. Power shock ammunition.

[@marksterling7822]

Honestly I feel 300blk is the best for the coyote at 300 yards scenario it's got plenty of power at that range and if you want it to be lightweight then you could use a ruger ranch rifle running 120 Barnes jhps your full kit with scope and loaded p mag would only be around 8 pounds.

[@karlschool9353]

372 yards ! 25-06 all day!

[@91shanej]

I like the 204 ruger for coyotes longer distance need the 40 grain but for here in the yard wich is 350 yards and in the 204 ruger with 32 grain is perfect

[@CrisCov-qm9yt]

0 knock down power.

[@Off-target-xy6bx]

The 22-250 has been the most popular coyote cartridge in my part of the world for many years. Flat trajectory and doesn’t take long to get there on moving targets it seems to be the bolt gun choice.

[@RobMcqueen-t5t]

243 shooting 80g ttsx

[@zzzzzzzzzzaper]

6 mm remington 75 grain hollow point 4000 ft per second max load remington bdl 1 inch dia. bull barrel. 6.5-20 power leopold scope. 1/2 mile killer. Just a bit faster than the 243___ and the 25.06 they do make a 75 grain hollow point for the 25.06 and it is superfast also I have 2 guns in this caliber ruger77 bull barrel and a heavy barel ruger 77 max loads i haven't cronied they are really hot.

[@RealDuckMaster]

Would be a better podcast if they talked bullet, bullet load, how far from the jam is and case preparation. Or even talk factory hot loads with a specific bullet type and weight. Because without those all rifle calibers are good and bad when it comes to killing yotes. Hell the ultimate rifle wood be a 50 BMG Example a .223 shoots a 35 to 85 grains in many different variations, tails and olives. A 22-250 will do the same. Which one is better well a 22-250Varmint Grenade won't stabilize in a 1/14 or 1/12 twist. But it will in a .223 1/8 or 1/9. Sure the .243 will and anchor a yote its shooting a 74-110 bullet in various configurations, however it wont anchor one with match bullets like a Sierra 90gr Match-King, Lapua 100gr Scenar, and Berger 100gr VLD. What I just said was just some of the variables n a coyote rifle of your choosing! Again all calibers are good and bad on yotes. These guys need more time killing yotes and allot more time understanding ballistics and bullet energy. I can say this and back up what I say as I have been trapping and calling yotes since the Burnham Brothers first aired on American Sportsman in 1966. When Dennis Kirk started making cassette tapes in the 1970s.

[@ExtremelyAverageMan]

Not even a mention of 7.62x39? I'm beginning to think you guys hate the round haha.

[@sisleymichael]

Terrain and vegetation affect the decision in my opinion. I live down in the brush country of South Texas. On my place, a long shot might be 100yds. Why? The elevation changes and thick brush make seeing much beyond that quite impossible. Because I have one dedicated to the task, I use a 20" AR-15 in 5.56/223 with a 3-9 power scope. It works perfectly fine. Prior to getting that rifle, I was using a Savage bolt action, same cartridge. Still a good option IF you won't be needing to engage more than one. We have stealth coyotes. They are slinkers. They use concealment as much as possible. However, most of the coyotes get shot out by my chicken house. That shot from the back porch is 30 to 40 yards max. That is a 22LR shot easy. My wife has a Ruger 10/22 she keeps by the back door and she has gotten the last two. (those are her chickens, just ask her. She DOES NOT like predators!).

[@randiecoulter7872]

Ruger 77V, 220 Swift and 6mm Remington.

[@charlesmullins3238]

Want a .220 bad

[@k.robatasio9471]

Im another 6.5 grendel fan!!! It can run in a gas gun or mini action bolt gun... can handle deer, coyote, and able to buck the wind as well as reach out and touch em. I love mine in a 16in light weight AR build.

[@frankgrillo8094]

Ok- my turn, the questions should be - distance - terrain- prximity to population- for instance in my yard out to 150 yds i grab a 22MAG or 17HMR ,SOMETIMES my 17HORNET. Out to 250 or so perhaps my 20" DMR AR, ,beyond 250 or on a dedicated YOTE hunt it's time for the 24" /22NOSLER AR. Several yrs ago i got hooked on assembling ARs for different tasks, hence the various calibers, the proper tool for every task😂 -

[@foonus406]

With the destruction of our fur industry this topic has become moot. At todays prices you can't recover the cost of ammo or gas so you are doing it purely for land management. That said, I hand load for 22-250, 6.5, 270, and 300PRC. The 22-250 was originally purchased for coyotes, with a fur friendly load in mind. With no availability of large rifle primers to reload them and the fur idea eliminated, moved to the 6.5 creed with small rifle primer Lapua brass.. was able to secure 7000 of those primers. 6.5 doesn't use that much more powder than the 22-250 either. The past few years have seen our local area trappers also quitting - the result this year on our whitetail and game birds was noticeable, this year was the first that our neighbor had so many sheep lost to coyotes that she sold the ones that survived. They come at night and in Canada we aren't allowed to do anything about it when our idiotic law prohibits pest control at night.

[@DUNCANMACLAUCHLAN-q2l]

that brass is hard to get your hands on

[@foonus406]

@@DUNCANMACLAUCHLAN-q2l Yes they are, I suspect in part that a lot of folks are necking them down to .22 Creed as well.

[@DUNCANMACLAUCHLAN-q2l]

i 0wn 3 model 700 rems all built in early 70s.absolute hole cutters from factory.to bad they dont make them that good anymore.@@foonus406

[@justbaggit70]

Here where im at its more common to call them in 100 yards or less. 223 AR works great. I love the 204 and 20 practical. Ive used 6cm and 6.5cm. Bad news close range. Rips them open and all required follow ups. 223 with 50gr pills drops them down hard.

[@jasonbullard9758]

No love for the 6.5 Grendel??? It does a phenomenal job on coyotes. Also pigs, deer, bear, etc. Minimal recoil AR and Bolt Gun options. Not even an honorable mention… Dang…

[@completesystemfailure4669]

Down here in The Old South the old super X 22 Winchester sure saved alot of chickens .

[@jerrymartin5100]

6.5 grendel, 107 gr at 2700, with a controlled chaos bullet.

[@texpatriot8462]

I have always wondered why Coyote hunters worry about fur. Is it good fur and are fur buyers everywhere?

[@danielrobey1759]

7 mag with 120 grain ballistic tips is fun!

[@JoshSmith-vj3yb]

204 thank yew very much 😂

[@paulnirschl6500]

Up here in Northern Wisconsin a 12 ga. works best in the swamps and pine mixed with hardwood forests.

[@Preying_on_predators]

Running a 6 arc 58 gr Vmax and 223 53 gr Vmax. Love them. 243 win with 70 gr Nosler or 75 gr Vmax are deadly. 6 creed 75-87 gr Vmax

[@PureCountryof91]

DPMS G2 rifles are coming back. They're pretty light for an ar10. And they mentioned.243. im considering an upper for my sf308 as an option

[@philiptrump8472]

25-06 with 117gr SST two small clean holes

[@weldmonger1560]

See people get too hung up on cartridge choice. Choose the caliber that suits ur shooting needs. If u only shoot 300 yards then shoot a cartridge that shoots flat out to 300. Its commin sense. And on top of that its all dependent on the shooter and his ability to make ethical clean shots

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

There is N0 such thing as the "Best" cartridge for coyotes ! In the east it could be a 12 gauge shotgun. For most rifle hunters ANY of the centerfires .22's are "highly popular" . Out west it might be a .25-06 . Possibly even a .243 Win. ... ... get real.

[@CSSVirginia]

.30-30 and 22 mag. Why? Cause its what i had when i saw them. Worked out fine.

[@claybenge1755]

Got my first Coyot with my 270 (150 federal fusion) while deer hunting and listening to the 10mm vortex podcast.

[@Swampytheroot]

Nice presentation. The 243 is probably the best answer. As far as the 22-250: I don't know I've ever actually seen one in person. Could the 224 Valk not be loaded with the lighter 58gr Vmax and outperform a 223? I know it's designed for heavy for caliber bullets, but does something prevent using lighter pills? Seems to me that would go a long way toward bringing the AR up to (closer anyway) par with a 22-250 bolt gun. I'm in heavily wooded and rapidly growing Central NC. Coyotes are a newish issue here. But they're numerous down along the wetlands half a mile below my house. Debating 223 vs 6.5 Grendel vs 6.5CM. I have all three in bolt and gas guns. I have Controlled Chaos loads for both 6.5 rounds, so that's where I lean. All sorts of varmint rounds in 223 and even Federal 110gr varmint loads in 308. Always enjoy these. I do wish the didn't ramble quite so much so as to stay somewhere close to the stated 10 minute mark. But it's cool when I have half an hour to kill.

[@wyattengelhardt1982]

45-70

[@dustinweaver3032]

At 100 yards or less 17hmr, 22 magnum, 17wsm Will do the job. Make sure you have a clean shot. 17wsm is more forgiving than any of the other rimfire cartridges. Anything over 100 yards 204 ruger or bigger, 22-250 is probably king. I still love my 204 its super flat shooting.

[@brandon_roy]

17 hmr sucks ass

[@nowherespecial6780]

243 Hornady superformance 58gr are cranking 3920 ft per sec Out of my twenty four inch barrel i'm getting 4000 . But the 65 creed more and the two forty three has the same ballistics , basically out to 8 hundred yards. That can be fact checked... But I also run. My stag arms six point eight s p c. Super varminter

[@nowherespecial6780]

The 224valcary was another nice cartridge as well

[@santodelasanto677]

.222 Remington which I inherited from my father. Serves me will with groundhogs and yotes

[@kevinkeller6569]

I just purchased a CVA Cascade camo bolt action chambered in 243. Leupold VX-3i scope 3.5x10x40. Using 55 grain Hornady Vmax. Imho, this is the best round for coyotes.

[@williamthacker2357]

22_250 browning 1885 high wall 28"barrel

[@tcmoney1321]

243 hands down. Go get in big predator tournaments and see ehat most guys are shooying to anchor coyotes. 22-250 second choice

[@markwyatt131]

If the fur industry is dead, therfore you're not concerned with preserving the pelt, you might as well go 460 Weatherby Mag. If your aren't going to recoup cost anyway, why not go $11 a shot. In all seriousness, I really like the 25's and the 6's. I've alway used my 243 with 80gr. softpoints. Duel purpose, more horsepower, etc. I would really like to take a coyote with my 250 Savage or 257 Roberts, but I think for my next coyote hunt I'll be taking my brand new 6.5 grendel.

[@BirdDogey1]

I have a number of coyotes that live around my house. They are very used to me so frequently join me on my porch. Love those babies.

[@hepfarms9101]

I have 85gr Barnes TTSX loaded at 3450fps for my 243. Coyotes, deer and pigs...all bases covered for north Texas