The problem with banning TikTok

[@flashstar1234]

Everybody: Tiktok stealing data Facebook, Google: Sweating nervously

[@Pat_KraPao]

Sherry what are they giving to the Chinese government? LOL

[@cho2583]

@Sherry its more of a political based paranoia, not a factual reality

[@sammy94780554]

Yeah facebook and google arent run by the US government, but since tiktok is chinese it means the chinese government has full control over it.

[@shrekwithawillsmithface465]

@Subotai they’re giving stealing ur personal information

[@quackquack2878]

The us govt cant legally force fb or google to hand over data. But china specifically has laws that require chinese corporations to cooperate and hand over data to the govt Thats the difference

[@itsmiicoo]

TikTok uses a software that personalizes page base on your interest. hmm... can tiktok make a dating app?

[@denismishaev4507]

It will be scary accurate dating app, but actually Tinder uses your interests and try to guess who will you like

[@jasp9661]

Every social media app does this, so probably, but it won't be a good one.

[@user-ml7ly6uc1c]

😭😭

[@A23-o6x]

It practically is tbh

[@j.r.826]

Tinder?

[@recoolify]

The main problem I can imagine is all tic tockers will move to KZbin now

[@birdy_]

Ban them!

[@snp..]

Or, even worse, they will come to Vine (if we somehow resurrect it)

[@jackgraffeo6378]

Yeah lol

[@gracewhitene3912]

.

[@tylerhackner9731]

Don’t need them to come here

[@drewce390]

People: hey tik toc you're stealing our data. Tik toc: NO, THATS NOT TRUE, AHHHH people: google, you're stealing our data. Google: yeah we are.

[@cinnabonbon]

i love how google doesnt even care “heck yeah we are”

because google is a browser, they need that information. If you type in "gas stations near me" it needs your location to make an accurate representation. It also asks for your permission, it also is in the TOS that none of us read. A social media app does not need that information

[@tejpatel5320]

@ Yeah, but that is not the only data the try to get out of you. Think ad sense and spending behavior, which necessitates analyzing as much internet traffic as possible.

@@tejpatel5320 that's what you sign in the tos that none of us read. You can also turn off personalize ads so it wont take that information and sell it to advertisers and will just throw at you anything it wants

[@spams-games]

It's an american company they dont care if it's stealing data as long as it's not malicious tiktok is a chinese company and they are stealing data. So rightfully so it's getting banned

[@Bekinditcostsnothing]

Tik Tok, KZbin for people with short attention spans.

[@player34536]

@@instagraminsidersecurity935 stop with the nonsense.

[@myownsummrr]

yea, cause its made for 7 year olds cause they are the easiest people to steal data from (not the kid itself but the 7 year old is gonna usa his moms phone)

[@trakan7971]

@@myownsummrr there's more 7 year olds on youtube and reddit (which is the habitat for commentary channel fanbases and 7 year olds) than on tiktok.

[@sleepingturtle32]

*Lazy people

[@SoryRN]

​@@trakan7971 tiktokers are usually the most annoying people you can find

[@kevrev0]

Americans: if China wants our data they'll have to buy it from Facebook like everyone else 😂😭

[@MatasJK]

😂😂😂

[@arunkumarsingh279]

😂😂🤣

[@timtams_6]

😂😂😂

[@deleted2187]

‘TikTok’ is an app run by a foreign government, promoted toward minors, and used to collect information. See how somebody might have a problem with that?

[@Sarah-eh7bw]

Or go through some sketch israeli software company like us corps do lol

[@akshatsharma264]

Before it was banned in India, there was a full fledged war going on between Indian Tiktokers and youtubers. I'm glad there's peace now.

[@xiaoshen3319]

If USA didn’t ban TikTok ,India won’t ban TikTok ,thats why india china relationships depends on usa,if China want Indian digital date,why not through xiaomi phone or vivo oppo and oneplus

[@johnxina7797]

@@xiaoshen3319 you know india banned TikTok BEFORE the usa did right?? they also did it in 2019 when nobody else other than bangladesh had done it

[@valROFL]

yes it is just rightful and to counter china, china was being desperate for territory that it want some parts of northern india, even tibet is now a chinese territory. so india's only revenge/vengeance against china is banning tiktok once and for all

[@malluminecraftsurvivor3630]

@@xiaoshen3319 bruh we already banned tiktok

[@narayananps2006]

@@xiaoshen3319 FYI, USA banned it after India banned....so fk off.

[@yixuan_exe4118]

People who use tik tok: "wait its hated?" *Most* of the internet: *"always has been"*

[@andypandy5781]

The New Kid Only half?

[@larvlarv4204]

Most

[@anitaa5514]

*most

[@iskandarazdi9092]

All*

[@TalentedTailgater]

All*

[@yugen3968]

Such a half-assed narrative, didn't even talk about the sketchy underbelly of the app, & that no chinese company can challenge the overbearing Information Security law in China- If the state asks for the data, you gotta give it

[@sunny2355]

This channel is paid off by TikTok

[@shreymishra2905]

Exactly, they only talked about internet freedom but forget to talk about how tik tok is compromising national security of various countries causing widespread riots, radicalization and intoxication in the name of ideology, religion and race.

[@akiyamayusuke]

That's your own paranoia. The user information collected by TikTok has no strategic value even if the company hands over to the Chinese government, which it won't. If you were the Chinese government, why would you jeopardize a globally successful business worth of $50B, for nothing?

[@bikkyvishal]

These type of videos makes Vox less trustworthy.

[@Daniel-yk9dm]

Shrey Mishra because that’s the main issue. The issue is going into the discussion on whether it is okay for modern company to censor media to fit there own agenda

[@skyejoung7881]

The internet was first created to connect the world and now people are deliberately starting to cut themselves off of it

[@jasminejoydicla7264]

I did the exact same thing. Living without so much connection to the world is so much better

[@user-ml7ly6uc1c]

Yep

[@aHuman5111]

People are just using it in the wrong way. So it’s more dangerous, just look at what tik tok is doing. Stealing every single piece of info it can. While Google just gets the info needed to have their ads and make money.

[@kelfstar563]

@@aHuman5111 I don't really understand why every people condemned tiktok for stealing data. As I know, tiktok was totally separated by Bytedance with the chinese app and also ran by different people. Just check CEO of oversea Bytedance isn't a chinese, is an American.

[@aHuman5111]

kelf star the head of bytedance made Tik tok. Bytedance is a Chinese company. Just because the app is global doesn’t mean it does a different thing in every country. It doesn’t matter where you are. It will still steal data

[@SciFactsYT118]

Completely random fact: To leave a party without telling anyone is called in English, a “French Exit”. In French, it’s called a “partir à l’anglaise”, to leave like the English.

[@Tofu524]

In Germany it is called “The Polish”

[@lulugamesdr4833]

A casual example of how we hated each other

[@nickbenton3545]

I’ve always heard that as an “Irish goodbye”

[@TitusRex]

In Portugal it's called a Spanish exit.

[@cuddleslikespie]

I like to call it "The Introvert Out"

[@antiiilluminatisquad5365]

The problem is that they're on KZbin now!

[@Nitrous0xide_]

No instagram reels

[@5ped0fs0und5]

A small price to pay for salvation.

[@z_.5557]

So what if they're here? You just probably hate them from coming from an app with a bad rep and assume they just do renegade as entertainment. 😒 Typical.

[@z_.5557]

@the spoon That's confusing ngl.

[@AlexandrBorschchev]

Antiiilluminatisquad well.. technically theyre youtube videos, not tiktok videos. So dont worry, but youre data is definitely stolen if you have installed anything chinese related.. lol .goodluck.

[@user-pz6kq2tv9m]

This feels like a Black Mirror episode, ngl.

[@logarhythmic6859]

That's the intention. From the Wikipedia - "Brooker developed Black Mirror to highlight topics related to humanity's relationship with technology, creating stories that feature "the way we live now - and the way we might be living in 10 minutes' time if we're clumsy.""

[@zszs100]

ARGUMENT: "BUT China banned some of our stuff like Facebook and KZbin! COUNTER ARGUMENT: The reason China banned them is because those companies refused to follow China's regulations, whereas the US banned Huawei and Tiktok, etc, with ZERO proof of any wrong doing. Meanwhile the US is the biggest spy. For example, German intelligence found 10 back doors in CISCO products, while they found ZERO in Huawei's. The US wants freedom while they are enforcing anti freedom and censorship at the same time. xD EDIT: Watch Nathan Rich's "Why China banned Facebook" video for an in depth explanation of some of the regulations China asked these companies to follow. Actually NOT as draconian you'd expect.

[@dilakosplays5900]

@@zszs100 Yes, the same jurisdiction that forbids companies from trading with them, unless they disclose all user data that they have. Good job buddy, keep telling yourself that and see how quickly 1984 becomes a reality.

[@Crock0Dial]

yes, you are black and mirror please tell me your netflix login

[@psycho3v]

I’m about to watch black mirror for the 1st time rn what’s a good episode or trippy

[@whistletoe]

seems like everything is crashing into global politics these days...

[@mostlynew]

whistletoe - It’s all about paranoia and control

[@ciro_costa]

everything is political there ain't much to do about that

[@josephbrennan370]

@@ciro_costa it is a sad truth of the world.

[@PRO_M3X_RS]

I like sleep

[@lyricengelbrecht8377]

Accelerated social globalization combined with the global growth of the information sector makes this inevitable.

[@elliot7753]

TikTok: is banned in America NordVPN: 🤑🤑🤑 💰 💰💰 💵💵💵

[@sheeplessknight8732]

You wouldn't need one, that isn't what the "ban" is, it is just not going to be on Google play, or the apple play store, you could always side load, but just as long as you don't have a financial relationship you are completely leagal

[@illegallybrowned5652]

can you guys cover the story about Sushant Singh Rajput's death mystery?

[@ashutoshsaraswat8350]

I'm from INDIA here the tik tok is banned from 30 June this year. They shut down Tiktok's Indian servers, that's why you can't unblock Titok even after using a VPN

[@hilal_younus]

Sherry I don’t think they downloaded it, more than 65% of India’s population is below 35 -(ie: millennials and gen-z ) and Millennials are the advocates of free items.. so, It isn’t probably tried..

[@josepho3366]

Sherry that might not be the same for the us ban though.

[@envar1]

I don’t have tik tok and I’ll likely never get it. What I hate most about tik tok is it’s just mindless scrolling, there short videos and the majority of them are garbage. I enjoy a good laugh but tik tok is multiple of the same types of “laughs”. KZbin has longer videos and helpful, fun, educational and interesting videos like this one.

[@mariamfall809]

I tought the same too before actually triyng it for myself. At firt I needed to personalize my feed and put on every interest that I have: books, science, art, history, kpop, language learning, meme and stufs like that. And my feed slowly became a really good feed with high quality videos. But it's still very addicting tho, but honestly youtube too is very addicting to me.

[@chaeyoungsbestie414]

You have to wait a day or two before the algorithm gets what you like. If you are getting mostly garbage videos, then the personalization element they talked about in this video didn’t kick in yet. It takes a little patience before it gets enjoyable, delayed gratification

[@keepingbloodpuretypenation5906]

Strongly agree

[@munimuz.6283]

Remember when Tik Tok was just the sound of a clock?

[@manuelcunharocha8889]

Or kesha's song...

[@javenlim1703]

Life was better

[@vishnu4234]

Good Old days...

[@dancingbanana168]

Lara M. I miss it

[@emersonjorritsma-barber8667]

Ah yea tick tock

[@dogethedog5057]

I remember back in the days where Temple Run, Where’s my Water, Talking tom, Flappy bird, and Fruit Ninja were the most popular apps 😂

[@ElcatOwO]

Those were the days I'll never see again

[@marhadiasak]

Oh my god yes early 2010s nostalgia is a thing now. I remember playing Fruit Ninja for gazillions of hours. 😂

[@TrainableEwe0]

Congrats, you were alive 6 years ago

[@thryldz1936]

Good old 2010’s

[@reverietapes]

That was a good time

[@damagecontrol7]

i still remember when TikTok used to be called Musically.

[@josephbrennan370]

This just unlocked a memory in my mind lol.

[@cayben8865]

Musically was worse tbh

[@babyfaec]

You say that as if it was a long time ago, it was literally up until November 2017, that's two and a half years.

[@hiteshlalwani5879]

actually, both are different applications which were later merged by their parent company and the users were diverted to Tik Tok

[@meanpillscasper]

I am pretty sure everyone remembers that, since it was like... a couple of years ago.

[@notsogood2576]

My country (Indonesia) actually has banned TikTok way back at around 2018 till 2019. Since TikTok boomed in the US and in a bunch of other countries, it got unbanned.

[@xiaoshen3319]

Because Indonesia leader think everything USA do is right.

[@borgir6368]

@@xiaoshen3319 thats what u think lol

[@herbertant4096]

@@xiaoshen3319 lol wumao, like you dont think chins is the best

[@PenguinyThePro]

Im indonesian

[@hafizhradhitya4861]

serius bro? Ak blom make sih taun segitu wkwkw. Baru make tahun 2020an waktu mulai pandemi

[@chiguireee]

Didn't even talk about the sketchy methods tiktok uses for data recollection

[@narda1072]

They all use sketchy methods

[@danielgrinevich8503]

What sketchy methods does tiktok use that Facebook hasn’t?

[@buttertoast7055]

People vox is sketchy when it comes to showing anything that might influence people to look into Republican statistics.

[@chiguireee]

@@danielgrinevich8503 Copying what you have in your clipboard every 2 seconds, for example

[@adityaoak1363]

@@danielgrinevich8503 Facebook is not under an authoritarian government that is a threat to the world

[@gunjanshrivastava5821]

NSA: thank God they forgot about Edward Snowden.......

[@yogurtislife149]

Funny thing about that Edward had to flee to Russia because he exposed the US government for being unconstitutional and breaking the law

[@bananaduck9849]

YogurtIsLife but didn’t he also give the Russians secret docs...

[@ymj4256]

@@bananaduck9849 Dunno I srly dunno

[@bananaduck9849]

ym j then why’d you respond?

[@bananaduck9849]

ym j or comment. I wasn’t saying anything to you, and you added literally nothing. I’m so confused

[@AdhikJoshi]

China: blocked KZbin, google, fb, insta, Wikipedia, and everything else. US: blocks tiktok Everyone else: surprise pickachu face

[@SexyUndisputed2All]

but America is supposedly above China, right? Thats what all the hype, rhetoric and the media says?

[@treehugger3615]

China does it because it has a vision of replacing them with their own, Trump does is for personal vendetta.

[@SexyUndisputed2All]

@GiantDwarf correct right? And if you really truly believe the US is that innocent with what you just wrote, then you want to buy the Brooklyn Bridge only 2,000$ I take PayPal

[@treehugger3615]

@@truthsupreme Again, and I have said this multiple times. Then why isn't the US banning Baidu, or Alibaba or Wish for that matter?

[@akevin7451]

@@treehugger3615 economic and financial stuff obv, this stuff is not 1 dimensional it has a lot of other aspect, such as politics, trade, military and other undisclosed infos Were just the pawns in a game of chess

[@albanx2858]

China: bans basically every app America: bans tik tok China: *surprised pikachu face*

[@BeaverChainsaw]

China: how dare you do what we do since the internet existed!.

[@arielllagunoablao7876]

USA is democratic. China is not.

[@trashcantacos]

@@rafaellopao5489 Amen 🇺🇸

[@arielllagunoablao7876]

@@rafaellopao5489 joke

[@justarandomsovietofficerwi2023]

@@BeaverChainsaw Ban China, and the world will be a better place.

[@ginocastro7506]

When a known alcoholic says they don’t drink, do you believe them?

[@noname-zp1yh]

People could say the same about the U.S. and the media companies it runs.

[@Leo-zj2qp]

@@noname-zp1yh The US doesn't run them, they do mass censorship on their on like Vox. It isn't a government entity, but it censors major issues for the left and wouldn't dare to speak the truth on it.

[@kumarharsh6987]

@@noname-zp1yh not every system is bound to be run by top administration only. we have our freedom of media on this side of the world.

[@vorpheuss]

@@kumarharsh6987 dude I lived in china and lemme tell you the picture we are painting of the country is wildly exagerared on censorship of social media.

[@martinconneally8756]

Not if i hear bottles clancking under their trench coat.

[@oyaoya11]

This reminds me of what Yovah Noah Harari mentioned in his book - algorithms are going to know you much better than your mom.

[@ahmedaltaf12131]

20 lessons for the 20th century yeah?

like Google

[@CommanderCodey]

Well my parents hate me and don’t care about me so at least some entity cares about me and listens to me

[@nishanthsaseendran7833]

Yuval Noah Harari

[@krishnachavan1332]

Also mentioned in 21century by yovah

[@paperedo]

7:12 Nobody: Europe: ight imma head out PS This map is cancer almost every border is worng, who made this mess

[@Shambhaviak]

Tru dat the map is messed up... Vox can do better :(

[@SmartCrime]

LOL WHERE TF IS EUROPE AHAHAH

[@SmartCrime]

CANADA, USA AND MEXICO ARE COMBINED TOGETHER HAHA

[@brandonchan4537]

i am confused too, even the entire of north American continent has been annexed by the United States

[@SmartCrime]

UAE DOESNT EXIST LOL

[@Parapresdokian]

TikTok is cancer

[@danielfonville1840]

yes

[@raagamparmar5602]

yeah...

[@channel5980]

Yep

[@Anonymous-id1ff]

Yes

[@omi4470]

Uh-huh…Indeed

[@tourist1665]

For the Internet shut downs in 2019, the graphic is wrong. Ireland never had a shut down and the source you cited says it didn't either, while you left out the UK which your source says did have a shut down.

[@MrBjonnie]

Many differences between the graphic in the video and that in the cited report indeed; especially in Europe, Africa and Southeast Asia.

[@dennispremoli7950]

Italy never had a shutdown either.

[@Silverraine1]

I live in Pakistan, and I can't recall any shutdowns either. Sometimes if there's a large gathering, they shut off mobile signals for an hour or so in the city, but it's supposedly to prevent terrorists from remotely detonating bombs.

[@Sasha-qf8eu]

That graphic was sooo confusing. We never had any type of shutdown in Sweden either

[@theirishempire4952]

I think Ireland had a partially Internet Shutdown when Images of a car accident was going around Ireland, basically the same thing happened in New Zealand when a certain person walked in a Mosqe.

[@vikramrathore4260]

The video does not touch upon data security issue , it just mentions a statement by ByteDance denying it , that’s it .

[@thegummychair1613]

That’s because several sources, even from independent researchers in the US, have concluded that there really isn’t anything to worry about. After all, what data does tiktok have that Facebook, or any other social media doesn’t?

[@tonyqiu9542]

@@thegummychair1613 You're right it hasn't happened, every source that claims this always says it may happen but hasn't.

[@ANTSEMUT1]

Oh no they can copy and monitor your clipboard, well so can a bunch of other apps and more.

[@JohnWalterGates]

In Spain, Vox is a far right anti-immigration party xD

[@user-pj9gs5es5h]

Yea lol

[@Zartak00]

And here it belongs to the left woke media 😂

[@RadilRaaid12]

Ironic

[@Campeon99]

Rlly? 🤣 and here in the US it’s left wing

[@hugolouessard3914]

@@Campeon99 I wouldn't call it left wing. Maybe "left" for America, but truly they seem like democrats, so I'd say center. Maybe social democrats = center left

[@RayMak]

I think all these platforms are beautiful

[@Drew-xy7yg]

This really doesn’t address the security issues relating to the average user in the United States.

[@ubuntuposix]

yes, i'm curious what power does the Chinese Gov have over individuals in the US. Acknowledging that the app is spying, and then saying the US should take it is..

[@john-zf1yb]

TheoreticallyDan I think the main problem which was mentioned above is that Tik Tok is suppressing things that China does not want the world to see like the Muslim interment camps

[@sumitshresth]

@@john-zf1yb but tictok is not a news outlet

[@carters1209]

TikTok was caught monitoring clipboards, and literally seeing every key you typed (when Apple had an update that showed when user data was being used by apps). ByteDance got in legal trouble when it didn't follow Xi's ("president" of China) information sharing guidelines (they had to apologize and say they won't do it again essentially) awhile back, so how are they going to claim that they're not sharing information with China? As a conservative who firmly believes in uncensored internet, I think it's critical not allowing foreign governments to have information on future presidents and senators sitting in a database. And I think what Trump is doing with forcing them to sell their US TikTok operations (which Vox conveniently ignored this fact) is a good way of keeping the internet uncensored and not having US citizen's data in China's hands. This entire video was just a convenient sailing of the ship through this situation that fitted their agenda, I only watch Vox's videos to see what the economic elites are wanting the public to know, and therefore knowing where the future is heading.

[@yvesmaker]

That's what i thought. Cause maybe it would be reasonable to ban something like this over security concerns and data collection.

[@jonathandabre8004]

Talking about open global internet is not a right argument when it comes to China. China doesn't allow outside apps to function there then why would other countries let their apps . Let's look how mutual it is!!

[@lillyie]

how is your social credit score?

[@theirishempire4952]

@@lillyie We don't have that

[@triadwarfare]

@@lillyie This isn't a pro-CCP post. What they meant was that China doesn't play fair, so we don't have to.

[@arv7539]

@@triadwarfare I think he's saying his social credit is going to drop because he has an opinion.

[@senya1672]

@@triadwarfare we have to because if we don't then we are no better than these governments that do this, Trump has made it clear that this is straight up revenge for covid and because people on tik tok made him a laughing stock at one of his rallies. Also Americans will not be allowed to side load it if the ban is allowed to take effect and people here still use it there is a order in the EO that calls for the arrest of anyone still using the app, another issue with this ban is in the EO it states any online company that has servers in China even American based ones will also be banned that is a good amount of gaming servers out there

[@cr2ngy]

China: bans Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram America: okay ----------------------------------------------------- America: bans TikTok China: *hold up*

[@alejandrozamora3683]

I don´t know about other apps but Instagram is available in China

[@nic.liberty]

@@alejandrozamora3683 no it's not, maybe similar services but not Instagram at least not without a VPN

[@hygog]

US app in China dont want to follow Chinese internet law so they couldnt get license to run and they retreated, Tiktok on another hand they comply every possible way US want them and they get banned . that is different situation.

[@myyoutubechannel252]

hygogg do more research please!

[@Kasukke]

@@hygog it's different, but the political implications are similar. If China starts relaxing these rules for US companies, that would be good leverage to allow TikTok to operate in the US.

[@hanw544]

internet freedom in the US? Edward Snowden: Am I a joke to you?

[@instagraminsidersecurity935]

If your cashapp is over 3months old, @badgejames22 on Instagram is able to get $7500 into it, he keeps 30% after the fund drops for you.

[@BLACKMAMBA-og1lf]

@@instagraminsidersecurity935 you bot

[@ogfox9803]

He’s a hero

[@masuchi9999]

Let them come!

[@mcsqueezyboi2806]

Vox: The problem with banning tik tok Me: there’s a problem?

[@poopiehed9500]

Mob mentality

[@ushniknath2878]

😜😂😂

[@HelgaCavoli]

It's a singing canary. When it shuts down, what else gets quieter?

[@AyeBeeG]

Helgali considering tiktok and we chat are the only successful apps in USA, so the answer is none. Can’t believe you asked such a frail question, but then again..

[@bigdickmcgee3293]

Yes? The evidence that it collects any more data than existing social media is non existent. all we have seen is the us government talking in what ifs. If speculation about potential for harm is all it takes for censorship in the us then you might as well not call yourself a free country anymore.

[@Moombax]

Seems half of europe got "misplaced" on the map as well. It's quite gone.

[@TheOddWorldOfJonas]

It represents the EU as a single territory

[@anodyne9549]

@@TheOddWorldOfJonas Nope, if it was Switzerland would be on the map, which obviously isn't the case

[@jmckendry84]

@@TheOddWorldOfJonas then why is the Republic of Ireland missing?

[@abbasbulushi11]

Same with the Arabian gulf

[@anniehills5919]

Its still there folks. Its just really cramped and hard to see

[@foxtea7903]

KZbin would be filled with TikTok stars like when Vine had been cancelled lol

[@SierraDelta-]

Oh no... another jake paul

[@colinbrown7947]

Even if tik tok gets banned, it will just be bought by a US company and then things will continue as normal.

[@jayanimations494]

Uh it already is, hype house has Tik Tokers

[@Max-ns8lc]

Use tiktok or fix your recommended it’s really that easy. People are treating tiktok like the plague in the middle of 2020.

[@braincell4536]

Facebook already developing Reels lol

[@vanedeoz9472]

"Tik Tok said they have never provided any US user data to the Chinese government, nor would it do so if asked" of course, because the company who provides the info is ByteDance. Since they are a Chinese company based in China, they MUST give the CCP any information they ask for

[@cuddlemuffin.9545]

Sure, let's trust the CCP run company

[@ashutoshsaraswat8350]

I'm from INDIA here the tik tok is banned from 30 June this year. They shut down Tiktok's Indian servers, that's why you can't unblock Tiktok even after using a VPN

[@madhav1]

But you can access from the web

[@prithvirajpatil7510]

@@madhav1 Most of the users aren't that smart.

[@prantikasamadder5581]

@@prithvirajpatil7510 so you mean "most of them" has 25 IQ when it came to accessing to the web

[@navinvent]

@@madhav1 VPNs are blocked in China especially Nord and other common.

[@theglobalspecial9811]

Thank god

[@pavan923]

its funny how India is able to ban tiktok without any problems with nearly the entire nation supporting the decision while the US can't even ban tiktok, and almost the entire population is mad they are trying to do it to protect their national security

[@nikhilhadbe271]

Because it was done during serious tension with China and done saying banning Chinese apps

[@coderelease9145]

well mostly cause it's a china app an Indians are boycotting china goods

[@xiaoshen3319]

Besides China any other country in Asia just follow USA ,but the funny part is their people just very confident that these are their own decisions .

[@pavan923]

@@xiaoshen3319 The decision from India to ban TikTok was India's decision, in fact the US tried to ban TikTok only because India had done it.

[@kshitijbachhav5332]

​China went from communism to capitalism.

[@flashstar1234]

“The political problem with banning tiktok” There, I fixed it for you vox

[@twixerclawford]

What did that change about the title? They both mean the same thing

[@thatspookagain4030]

@@twixerclawford added 'political'

[@aldominicgatlabayan6925]

you just made it more comprehensive. Nonetheless, it's still a problem

[@twixerclawford]

@@thatspookagain4030 they still mean the same thing

[@dinamosflams]

The political problem with our solution for world peace

[@gtaviation6924]

Tiktok: Shutdown forever Me: *finally, peace has come*

[@danielfonville1840]

Is it actually please tell me this is true whenever I'm at my friends house they are just on that like why can't we just talk or almost anything other than tik tok

[@robotzexzr8403]

@@danielfonville1840 it’s a joke

[@danial5870]

They never mentioned why TikTok was banned in the US though...

[@zyoom8796]

The closest thing they said about that was Trump was taking revenge for covid

[@shangrammohammad8453]

Trade war against China and the rise of the Chinese crytocurrency which has the potential to overthrow the US Dollar as the dominant currency. Plus the fact China bans everything from the US so why can't they ban Chinese owned media? Seems completely fair to me.

[@ajmjl9102]

Because its owned by the Chinese government and they can spy on us and give China it its a big national security problem also China is know for hacking the us we are in a cyber war with them rn

[@WayneCXT99]

Bad Diplomatic relationship

[@shrimp3486]

@@ajmjl9102 as i know theres no cyber war

[@erickhernandez8574]

RIP Chadwick Boseman

[@dusty2318]

May he Rest in Peace 🙏 😭

[@peaches3208]

We don't do that here 😭

[@tylerhackner9731]

Rest in power king 👑

[@flashstar1234]

F

[@nalinraj4347]

yes everyone know that by now no need to remind in every video to get attention

[@eatingbatsoupforaliving7872]

Yeah, Vox the internet should be open. Now, if you would please activate the comments on the BLM video you made because the internet needs to be open.

[@fabianh.8848]

Comments are deactivated on all of the newer videos.. came here to find out why

[@qoenntrell]

@@fabianh.8848 It's the KZbin Kids thing, not Vox's fault...

[@supercat82b20]

@The Indian Pianist yeah but blm is not a kids video its a video about riots and looting being called peaceful

[@jusdidit9564]

SuperCat82B they did not say that in the video but ok

[@supercat82b20]

@@jusdidit9564 I didn't say they did but ok

[@kennethkarlbriones8261]

This video didn't age so well. Who's here on 2024?

[@cantthinkofagoodusername2458]

Vox is so good at making videos about really boring things, really interesting

[@welikelethabo]

CatsBeingCats 11 finally somebody commented this😘

[@lehonyy2428]

agree!!

[@mxrius_351]

Thank you!! Finally

[@bawonoadhi2581]

Yup. 😂

[@ambrilyn4623]

Yeah I agree

[@SevenGears]

remember when tiktok was just a app to use ironically? i remember

[@Sageboy13]

Sajid no

[@nyawndere]

@@sajid7039 no you're wrong

[@perfectdark287]

You misused the word "ironically"

[@josephbrennan370]

@@sajid7039 woah.

[@Crock0Dial]

remember when i asked about your shucgedr a "week ago," you never gabevf it too me pelase u nne eed the suuger

[@Alesscamera]

Instagram: can I copy your homework? Snapchat, twitter, KZbin, vine, tiktok: I guess yes...

[@gunjanshrivastava5821]

And the intellectual property master US doesn't do anything about it. When China copy we call them copycats but when yankees copy we call innovation....such disgrace

[@pdxdrummerdawg_]

Instagram came WAY before tiktok just saying

[@Alesscamera]

NSPROD BEATS Instagram was a photo app, then it just copied Vine, then snapchat with the “stories”, after that KZbin with “Instagram tv”, now it’s tiktok with the short videos with customised music called “reels” ...

[@aashkaran2006]

@@gunjanshrivastava5821 there is a difference between inspiration and blatant ctrl c+v

[@instagraminsidersecurity935]

If your cashapp is over 3months old, @badgejames22 on Instagram is able to get $7500 into it, he keeps 30% after the fund drops for you.

[@andyfriederichsen]

TikTok is cancer.

[@bennettcarlson3974]

I'm indifferent to it I can't see what makes it so unique

[@iLOLZU42]

I miss the early days where the internet was like its own nation existing completely separate from the world itself.

[@bornstar481]

It’s no longer a nation it’s a planet now

[@thandepapa5818]

it never was seperate,you have to remember that darpa was the one who invented it,and i dont need to explain what darpa does,do i?

[@ynntari2775]

Just like a new island waiting to be invaded, colonised and warred on

[@Yo-ve4pm]

@@bornstar481 the internet became mainstream... i hate it

[@mattschwab5143]

Yeah bc that existed

[@aadityaagupta6964]

This video paints an extremely one sided picture of what the issue is. It’s not about reducing people’s freedom on the internet but rather to protect user data from the Chinese government. I’d like to raise another question though... why are we okay with companies like Facebook google or twitter having so much of our data?? What’s stopping them from selling it to any government that pays a good price for it?

[@bidZee]

Exactly. And let's not forget how Chinese have blocked popular apps too for security reasons. And now, they cry foul over it. Hypocrisy at heights!!

[@destroyer-tz2mk]

With google in your privacy settings you can change what data google can collect at least.

[@Think_Inc]

Exactly, with the exception of Google.

[@NileshKumar-nr2vj]

Well fb did sold it's data to BJP on 2014 election. Read reports on it. And just a week before another leak admitting how FB is letting right wing hateful posts uncensored

[@GeorgeMartinus]

@@bidZee Chinese govt didn't ban Fb at first, but it just Fb who didn't willingly obey the rule of placing the server inside the Mainland. Moreover, around 10 years ago, extremst movements in Xnjiang were communicating and coordinating the attack via Fb group. The Chinese govt had ordered Fb to shut down or banned all these groups, but Fb seemed don't give nice reply about it. That's why Fb went out from China. Of course it's different story with Apple. They're still okay and running under the govt's rule and gain big market there.

[@Daniel.Anugerah]

Last time I was this early, tiktok's algorithm hadn't learned me yet

[@UnRealistic.]

Tik Tok more like Tick Tock **PUN CITY**

[@KayKayshaw]

Our country's ads seem to be mushrooming in TikTok tho

[@spreadingthebible123]

Kaysha Ainayya Nope I actually get instagram ads.

[@gundimytube]

Rich dude huh?

[@pennydreadfuls_]

@@gundimytube ?

[@hellothere1947]

.

[@newheights4782]

Freeswine07 And I forgot, giving it to the government is not worst.

[@Zeroneii3]

yes

[@marioman581]

chinease government can take the data thats the problem.

[@numerals8939]

@Freeswine07 A TikTok spokesman said the app collects less personal data than some U.S. tech companies like Facebook or Google, whose products track activity across devices.

[@michaelchen4221]

@Denmark wow...millions...you must have done extensive research on that issue! kudos to you...denmark

[@sujitgate4288]

Loved the small detail when every country shifts to the left on the scale, North Korea actually moves a bit to the right side.

[@chechsman]

And Brazil

[@majopgalli]

And the US

[@onodera387]

@@ChennypieX12 even the right of the US sounds like left to me now

[@aviaspotter32]

@@ChennypieX12 lol no Germany is the most

[@nakulbadwaik4655]

India**

[@sravankumar7324]

The problem is that many people will realize that they aren't really that talented.

[@Erons1528]

The problem is that you probably wouldn't hate TikTok unless a bunch of people said so because everyone plays into heard mentally as the typical edgy Reddit user you are

[@hugheast318]

Erons1528 no it’s not edgy it’s true dancing for 30 sec isn’t talent

[@Rvger1]

Erons1528 reddit is completely different from tik tok and their both garbage in different ways

[@kunalmahajan9489]

Hugh East it's not just dancing. I have seen some cool stuntman there. Trust me there's another world beyond lip syncing on TikTok.

[@volkingdeath5312]

Erons1528 you really don’t want to support tiktok around here, so please remain quiet before you get absolutely destroyed by everyone

[@tyrannostrike46]

0:59 sounded like she was spitting bars for a second

[@dannyceebee73]

Missed opportunity to spit fire 😔😔

[@aanaa5277]

the accuracy

[@marios_956]

Wasn’t expecting Turkey to be any higher than that.

[@instagraminsidersecurity935]

If your cashapp is over 3months old, @badgejames22 on Instagram is able to get $7500 into it, he keeps 30% after the fund drops for you.

[@kboz2105]

Neither

[@BLACKMAMBA-og1lf]

@@instagraminsidersecurity935 go away bot

[@Lazy2332]

I like how they didn’t talk at all about the concern of data loss to China 😐

[@joseph6128]

thats because thats not a valid concern. all U.S tiktok data is stored in singapore.

[@dawuid1491]

You like that? then why the unhappy emoji.?

[@Qinglady-ue6wm]

Daiwei Qin it was sarcasm.

[@dawuid1491]

@@Qinglady-ue6wm I know ;)

[@Qinglady-ue6wm]

Daiwei Qin that winky face gave me weird vibes bro

[@bmw5o]

I am so relieved that it is already banned here in India.

[@burgatron526]

So jealous of you guys. It is unlikely but hopefully my country Philippines will follow India's example

[@PeridotCentichannel]

@@burgatron526 i hope not. 😤

[@veo1053]

You guys are lucky apparently my country has no signs of banning tikitok which is just bad i mean china might be starting to take the west sea of my country

[@burgatron526]

@@PeridotCentichannel why? what advantages would we gain from keeping tiktok?

[@captainkryptex1986]

And 58 others 😂😂😂😂😂

[@seasong7655]

"Everything we eat is a reflection of the soil" Hydroponics: Am I a joke to you?

[@Psyc0gamer]

China bans all breeds of American apps : World Sleeps America tries to ban chinese app : World weeps

[@williamyin4649]

That was different. Google and facebook didnt want to obey china's law, so they exited. But tiktok titally abides US laws.

[@williamyin4649]

@@borgir6368 evidence????

[@renexaa]

@@borgir6368 ''sata''

[@MrUnsuspiciousName]

Instead of banning TikTok the US should pressure iOS and Android and Chrome to instill more data privacy choices so that TikTok can't data-mine you in the background

[@Asuka.the.Perfectionistic]

almost every app data-mine u in the background, US bans Tik Tok only because it's created by a Chinese company

[@Asuka.the.Perfectionistic]

​@ US has nothing to do with Tik Tok, they just want to insult China, Tiktok is just an excuse

[@extrapolate]

何也 so why has China banned most international internet companies? Now the world is playing by their rules and they yell foul play? Hypocritical!

[@MrUnsuspiciousName]

@@Asuka.the.Perfectionistic That's what I want fixed, banning tiktok is only a bandaid and doesn't adress the root problem

[@flaqity]

何也 also China banned so many American websites so why aren’t you comparing about that. China does it to US companies so why isn’t the US allowed to ban Chinese companies if the US sees it to be in their best interest. Seems kind of hypocritical to me

[@inbasicterms-popculturevid1704]

“Information is the resolution of uncertainty.” -Claude Shannon

[@tostupidforname]

?

[@mementomori5388]

Kind of obvious...

[@tostupidforname]

@@mementomori5388 yeaaaah

[@iruns1246]

Only accurate, understandable information from trustworthy sources. The other kinds actually ADD to uncertainty.

[@nzx.]

I feel you have taken it out of context.

[@mrfrankland557]

At 6:32 you Show the Internet shutdowns in 2019 according to your source. However if u look at the linked document it never shows Germany having an internet lockdown. Instead the UK, according to access now had one shutdown. However in your world map you highlighted Germany as well as France for example who never had an internet shutdown, but leave out the UK. Is that a fault of yours, or am I just not getting it? Because, if this is false I strongly recommend you correct the video!

[@Darocky87]

MrFrankland Ist mir auch aufgefallen.

[@MichaelLo0630]

Vox is becoming radical left as long as they can throw Trump’s presidency

[@ToddHowar.d]

Michael Lo Vox is not even close to “radical left.” They’re still center-left and probably better described as neoliberals.

[@dragonstormer115]

You are completely right! If they are using visuals and animations to display data, then they should be just as accurate. I just spend a small hour trying to figure out if my country(West-Europe) was involved in this subversive practice. It wasn't.

[@MissSmeyley]

the way i understood the graphic this isn´t showing who had an internet shutdown but simply different fractions of the splinternet they mentioned

[@Krystalgillfish]

I could live without social media

[@putnamehere3803]

Tiktok: "gets banned" Me: oh no... Anyway

[@SoryRN]

Oh yes anyway

[@joemonkey18]

Well there is the high chance they try and take over KZbin but as long as us memers, gamers, and others we will not allow them to infect KZbin

[@killero00]

@@joemonkey18 As if tiktok content is so vastly different from KZbin

[@maysonboolish7138]

tIk ToK iS aCtUaLly An AmAzInG pLaTfOrM tHaT aLloWs PeOplE tO eXpReSs CrEaTiViTy

[@Oysterwaffle]

Chris Yeh it is it show a lot more talentless people dancing and act like there super good

[@itspierson8062]

This video feels like you didn’t really do your research not to mention the fact you didn’t even mention why it’s being banned.

[@jxtapose]

They didn't give THEIR own conclusion because I think they don't want to receive too much backlash or something like that.

[@Sasataf]

Yes they did. There's the clip of Trump saying why he's banning it. 4:26

[@jxtapose]

@@Sasataf Not really a good reason by Trump lol

[@boyplusminecraft]

Yes, Vox can be like that sometimes. I just like their graphics.

[@albertjackinson]

A whole lot of other people covered it. And that wasn't the point of the video anyway.

[@babuaditya27]

*The* *problem* *with* *tiktok* : It's trash but doesn't stinks *(i haven't used it anyways)

[@TheLuxGirl2077]

you watch trash videos on tik tok but there is some good videos too

[@sockettofan480]

@@babuaditya27busy in jee bro?

[@the-iter8]

@@sockettofan480 probably lol thanks to HRD minister bhai sabh :)

it's only trash if you watch trash stuff the algorithm is pretty good to adjusting to your tastes, I only have good stuff on my tik tok its hilarious

[@sockettofan480]

@@the-iter8 yea

[@Megaman8880]

The fact that TikTok steals the biometrics of anyone who uses it should horrify everyone.

[@mattschwab5143]

Exactly!

[@obye]

facebook does the same thing. i don’t see it banned

[@winter_silhouette]

@@obye it should be

[@lacosta0892]

@@obye people have also wanted Facebook banned for the same reason, and I agree. Doesn’t matter if it’s from the CCP or our own government, any company selling your biometrics to any government should horrify you

[@ihatecalamares]

China bans most Western social platforms anyway for the same reason; data collection.

[@Tomer-oy1hj]

It is rather to prevent its people from gaining data, rather than preventing other countries from doing so

[@karthikps4889]

It's not about data collection,it's more about these apps can't comply with Chinese censorship and anti freedom of speech laws

[@VolleyballHighlights2024]

So, I think it's beneficial to understand that the US government isnt banning tik tok as a form or "we must control our country's internet" and is strictly doing so as a part of a world wide anti China embargo. It's a weird phenomena to be amidst, but the US will still be as free and open an internet as it always has been. The concern is the integrity of business in China. Important it is to recognise the company's statement as being neutral from government control, China still is a country that has massive control and power over its businesses so it is very unsure whether that statement is trustworthy.

[@reavl6494]

US is about to have one of the least free and open internet accesses in the world which will subsequently cause the rest of the world to follow. Net neutrality is going away, and it might be too late to change that.

[@besottedchimp1992]

REAVL So you would be okay with an app with billions of users that is monitored by a foreign regime function in the US? I don’t think so lol

[@Adowrath]

The problem isn't so much that they ban Tik Tok, however justified it is. The problem is that it does indeed set a precedent.

[@dsvechnikov]

Did you mean US-wide anti-China embargo?

[@VolleyballHighlights2024]

@@Adowrath that is a good point

[@Green_Magolor_Gijinka]

"The problem with banning TikTok" *Theres a problem?*

[@Jessica-eo5hg]

Yeah, a huge source of entertainment is gone. Also, there wont be anymore fun facts

[@foliebears]

Tiktok: *is getting banned* Everyone: Oh no! Anyways...

[@Whateverhandle]

Yeah except it's hundreds of millions of users

[@BLACKMAMBA-og1lf]

Also *They are coming to youtube.....*

[@XDgoodbye]

@@BLACKMAMBA-og1lf I hope that doesnt happen, also, im glad youtube isnt 15 second videos cause then they would soooo be goin here. But there are better chances of them going to instagram.

[@randomvidz20]

This argument seems skewed. To me personally the issue with TikTok or WeeChat is that it can potentially act as a massive surveillance tool, which is legally obligated to provide data to a totalitarian regime. It's the main reason why I would never use it, so I welcome a move which forces it to change the ownership structure.

[@ziairwilliams1540]

Good point the video is a bit skewed

[@Pfyzer]

yes indeed,

[@User-xw6kd]

Exactly. They are not focusing enough on this.

[@kakaderaunak]

"When China sneezes, the whole world catches a cold" - Kelley Kingsley

[@ishaanair]

There used to be a similar saying called "when France Sneezes rest of the europe catches cold". One of the only thing I rmeber from my history books.

[@UddaayGarg]

@@ishaanair cbse lol We studied this last year😂😂

[@ishaanair]

@@UddaayGarg ncert op in the chats

[@rohan34]

@@ishaanair i too remember reading it in the textbook

[@furanrabbits]

Like anyone needed to tell us this in today’s world🙄😂

[@ANSwer_this_nerd]

The internet already has problems. Everything related to the internet has problems, not just TikTok.

[@goomer2413]

Google most likely uses your data just for personalized ads, and search results. China could use your data to send you ads in your email containing harmful malware, they could compromise your bank accounts, leak your personal information, etc.

[@ANSwer_this_nerd]

@Abhinav Banerjee i didnt state the internet is owned by anyone. i just said the internet has similar problems with tiktok, but the internet is older than tiktok

[@morlipu6786]

Title:The problem with banning Tik Tok Me:It's blank

[@kh2b573]

We've been living without TikTok for ages and there's no problem...

[@andrew4363]

KH2B I don’t really like Tik-tok but I swear Trumps just doing it because they ruined his rally.

[@Ithzzz]

Thats not the point of the video thou its about opening pandora's box when it comes to censorship

[@JavierFernandez01]

@@Ithzzz They didn't mention the uighers. Or the organ harvesting.

[@Lue151]

Javier Fernandez They have separate video for that. Look up vox concentration camps china

[@hanhong2267]

TBF humans have lived without sliced bread and the Internet for ages as well, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should be removed.

[@m.m.9678]

The problem isn’t about limitations to free unrestricted internet. It’s about valid concerns of a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT stealing American data from the American people. THATS THE ISSUE. It’s a problem of national security and I support the ban.

[@overlyasian3488]

it's? super not??? facebook and twitter "steals american data" just as much as tikok. not only that, but it "steals data" from international users, too. mind you, "stealing data" just means learning about a user's online habits to recommend them content they like and ads that suit them, nothing more and nothing less. tiktok isn't special in that regard. if facebook and google and twitter aren't "problems of national security", then neither is tiktok.

[@tweedy4sg]

So its oK for American govt to steal data of people of other countries ? What about their security ? The arrogance of American exceptionalism is simply nauseating.

[@m.m.9678]

Little Wing Jhendrix ... If a foreign government believes their data is being stolen by another government, it’s their responsibility to do something about it.

[@m.m.9678]

Overly Asian ... Facebook and Twitter are American companies. THEY “steal data” for advertising purposes. It’s not right but they want better targeted ads. TIKTOK is stealing American data to HARM THE UNITED STATES. The president took an oath to “protect and defend the constitution of the United States, against all enemies, FOREIGN and domestic”. I support the move

[@overlyasian3488]

@@m.m.9678 that's paranoid. there is literally no evidence of tiktok doing anything different than facebook or google. link it if you're so sure. if you're not outraged by them, then you don't have a right to be outraged at tiktok.

[@truly747]

The tricky thing is that TikTok, a Chinese based company, enjoys 0 competition in Mainland China, as Mainland China blocks any competitors. This inherently gives it a huge advantage over its competitors. That, combined with past evidence of TikTok actively surpressing Muslim internment, is a reason for huge concern. That's where the problem is really arising. It's an uneven playing field.

[@simon2340]

I understand ur point but companies like FB, GOOGL can’t operate in China is that they do not agree to store its locally collected in China, where Tiktok agreed to do so here in the states.

[@sorenkair]

and banning it from competing with western social medias would level the playing field?

[@0xBasedChang]

FB was banned in china because FB refused to shut down extremist facebook groups radicalizing people

[@0xBasedChang]

of course you are curry too

[@travisliu5950]

On the contrary, the competition in Chinese mainland market is very fierce. Take the example of short video platform, tiktok is not the first one, Kuaishou(Kwai in English name?) is earlier than tiktok, and they divide the market equally, no one is failure. And Weishi (Wesee?) is the thrid which belong to Tencent. I can tell you the chinese mobile internet market is very competitive, just like the phone market (the competition between Huawei, xiaomi, oppo, vivo, 1+, realme...). Amazon and eBay are failed in the competition with Alibaba, JD and PDD. American is more likely a back garden, lack of competition,Giant companies monopolize the market.

[@herald4992]

6:30 for those Indonesians who noticed indonesia in red. It's because the 2019 election. double internet blockade in May and September.

[@imienazwisko4219]

Why is the map on this video so weird and outdated

[@AmonCastro]

6:38

[@cain_chamomille]

You gave me some deja vu moments...

[@anshulraut8013]

6:11 and even this map is wrong

[@venkatjayadeepj1342]

@@anshulraut8013 well, this is VOX what'd you expect

[@vincentngo9186]

@@anshulraut8013 where?

[@MsJeanneMarie]

Banning Chinese ownership of Tik Tok is literally the only thing I have ever agreed with Trump on.

[@hanslim4031]

how do u ban chinese ownership of tiktok? its owned by china

[@MsJeanneMarie]

Hans Lim if they sell it to Microsoft because they are no longer allowed to own it as they mentioned in this video as one possible scenario.

[@MsJeanneMarie]

Giorno huh? I didn’t mention jobs created by Tik Tok because that’s not my problem with it, nor does it negate the problem I do have with t.

[@theskyworrier]

It needs to be shut down. Its killing our next generation.

[@lindsaydarke393]

i immediately associate “frictionless” with cody ko lool

[@thisisyourusernameondrugs9373]

@MEOW MEOW because he did an interview when he was younger about an app he made and used the word 'frictionless'. Cody made a video reacting to it

[@Astroboy_-dx2uw]

@@thisisyourusernameondrugs9373 he even questioned himself if that word even existed

[@ethanbroadbent3859]

Hahahhaa yes that's what i thought

[@bapc5454]

my country, Australia, did not want to censor anything, but was forced to when a lawsuit was filed, and websites that showed pirated content was banned. This does not count as censorship.

[@jsi32]

As well as we were the creators of wifi which got the internet up and running

[@KlausBentes]

Am I the only one that doesn't care about TikTok?

[@lehonyy2428]

same here

[@thatspookagain4030]

Ayy functional brain gang

[@peaches3208]

Matured gang I would say lol

[@tylerhackner9731]

Same here I don’t care and I’m in the target demographic lol (I’m 18) they can just move on to another app anyway lol

[@kulik03]

Anyone over the age of 15 shouldn't care about Tiktok

[@leonmozambique533]

4:22 uhh you don’t have an option to say no to the CCP... if the CCP wants the data, you must oblige. Otherwise, be prepared to disappear without a trace

[@jxtapose]

Yeah I completely agree. Whatever statement a Chinese company makes can be taken with a grain of salt

[@EdgyMemer_]

"The problem with banning TikTok- Me: No

[@andrewstevens9007]

Facts

[@siemprefijre9870]

It was only ever meme material. Nothing else.

[@wrexonus]

@@siemprefijre9870 It wasnt even good material

[@satanggukie3456]

but tiktok aint that bad...?

[@siemprefijre9870]

@@wrexonus I said meme material, I never said it was good. :P

[@ahensuniverse1874]

When china bans all other apps in their country. Some are crying for ban on tik tok which is from China.

[@Jamandabop]

It seems like there's a pretty easy to leave here. Instead of banning individual apps, start placing more regulations on what data companies are allowed to harvest from our accounts and devices. if you wouldn't want a piece of data in the hands of a Chinese company don't put it in the hands of an American one either.

[@tostupidforname]

BuT MuRiCa oNlY gOoD sOOO ITs oK

[@sabikikasuko6636]

You'd have to be clinically idiotic to even consider that data in the hands of American companies is the same as data in the hands of Chinese companies. Literally no point of comparison.

[@smolr2404]

Haha

[@ashutoshguglani7611]

@@sabikikasuko6636 nsa have a access to all the data. China is worse then usa but usa isn't fairy godmother either. Not trusting anyone is the best option.

[@tostupidforname]

@@ashutoshguglani7611 Considering data doesnt have a halflife time it really doesnt matter how good or bad a government currently is when considering data protection laws.

[@bharanidharan2718]

The ending was great like , great question mark.

[@sravankumar7324]

"Tik tok celebrity" isn't something we're really looking for right now. Sorry, byeeee - McDonald's.

[@poopiehed9500]

Mob mentality

[@thatspookagain4030]

@@poopiehed9500 you're a poopie head. Can we spell that out? You're a p-o-o-p-i-e h-e-a-d.

[@poopiehed9500]

ThatSpookAgain **cones mouth with poster**

[@Proverbs9v10]

Now that banning TikTok is bipartisan, I'm curious Vox... Are you still thinking banning TikTok is a problem?

[@MrSeekerOfPeace]

Of course they do. They hate anything that isnt Socialist censorship

[@vkrajuk]

These guys joking India blocked internet. Where economic activity like millions payment happening every second 😄😄😄 using upi

[@ohthethings]

Yeah, this is a weird video. It's framing the issue as though China isn't an authoritarian state with a backdoor into every company within it's borders. Google, apple, Facebook are American companies. Not global superpowers with competing interests currently participating in the sterilization of an entire population.

[@archangel7052]

@@vkrajuk They're are talking about Kashmir I think.

[@vishnub6543]

​@@vkrajukOf course they are talking about Kashmir. What did you buffoons think?

[@shohanurshohag3952]

Meanwhile Facebook : "laughs in Cambridge Analytica" 😂

[@hijack69]

Except the difference is TikTok gives all data to the Chinese Government who is knows for surveilling on its citizens. Also if they don't allow our Tech companies why should we allow theirs?

[@codybrucewilliams]

for profit tracking vs foreign government tracking

[@peterengel8601]

Hi Jack Yeah, I don’t see why getting tracked by a private company is any better than getting tracked by the CCP. Neither have my best interests in mind - Because we are not an authoritarian country. Just because China does something wrong doesn’t mean we should

[@eddiemena1006]

You completely skipped over the main reason we need to ban TikTok

[@Greatcountry37]

eddie mena And that is....

[@aboriginalmang]

Well, so did trump

[@jxtapose]

@@aboriginalmang Yeah I sorta agree with having a forceful stance is good but Trump barely makes a decent point lol

[@alertaidiota6227]

And which is?

[@willinton06]

Gordinhu RoBlox the fact that the CCP can use it to spy on US Citizens

[@TechDevy]

Title "The problem with banning TikTok" Me: Impossible...

[@klash3532]

haha cause TikTok bad haha funny

[@XanderFenikkusu]

@@klash3532 No, but China bad

[@estassoncumbias5081]

There’s nothing wrong with banning tiktok.

[@starboysuniverse9956]

Totally

[@starboysuniverse9956]

@SkinnyThicc Legend No, you wana know what is wrong with it? here i'll tell you China Banned all american social media in the name of national security so now its time for us to also banned all chinese media in the name of national security, to me personally tiktok is not a bad app but hey its pay back time.

[@immergrun1851]

@@starboysuniverse9956 So... we're taking a platform from millions of Americans for "payback".

[@charliejames9976]

@@immergrun1851 Tbh, Tiktok is the source of stupidity, I mean look at all the GenZ’s today, most of them have tiktok, I’m one of the few who don’t.

[@lacosta0892]

@@immergrun1851 well guess what, China has done that to the billion Chinese citizens who probably don’t even like their government against their will, by banning almost all international social media platforms. Doesn’t make it any better