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@zwqaslol76263 жыл бұрын
Lol
@noobatthetower87473 жыл бұрын
Plz investigate on why stone
@dunarayb3 жыл бұрын
Ethnic reassignment in Jerusalem and Hebron, Palestine 1976-2021
@yandhisfinest3 жыл бұрын
Asian stuff
@sarssars-hm2ox3 жыл бұрын
Yeah when the rail roads and slaves where being built. Thoses where only black and china people what happen to all the indians or Mexicans. That's a big gap that never made since in school or any movie or book. Never mentioned a brown colored person. Or has it?
@OfficialDisneyFan4213 жыл бұрын
I’m thankful that as a high school student in LA county, my history teacher made sure ALL of his students learned and were aware of this tragedy.
@itsdiegonovelozo79373 жыл бұрын
sounds like a great teacher
@goochfitness263 жыл бұрын
Amazing teacher
@babymitch98973 жыл бұрын
Same
@barak-rocky-giles20813 жыл бұрын
I'm mad that mine didn't (also an LA native)...
@markhemsworth26703 жыл бұрын
Yet history repeated itself again in 2020 with a new stadium
@maddiesanabria50473 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this. My step family lived in Chavez Ravine and we attend the reunion picnic every year (except 2020 it was cancelled). Every year more of the original residents are dying of old age and it's so important for us to carry on their stories.
@N8Burn3 жыл бұрын
The most upsetting thing about this is the size of the parking. Imagine giving up your livelihood for a parking space.
@theJMBgamer3 жыл бұрын
That parking lot is big enough to fit 10 copies of the actual stadium. It goes to show that the stadium really had no chance of reinvigorating the "blighted" local community, since most people going to see a game would commute from the suburbs to this giant parking lot, without ever stepping foot near any of the local shops or restaurants.
@HelgaCavoli3 жыл бұрын
American dream. For white.
@MP89-d1u3 жыл бұрын
Look up Kelo v. New London. They destroyed a neighborhood to build an office park except the financing never came through and now it’s just a dirt lot.
@dodger71113 жыл бұрын
Yes, a parking lot is needed to prevent massive traffic. A stadium in the middle of LA would be a nightmare. No one would want to live that close to it anyway.
@piast993 жыл бұрын
@@dodger7111 How the parking lot prevents the traffic? Parked cars have to be driven to and from it, haven't they? If there was no parking everyone would have to use subway, train, whatever, and the car traffic would not increase.
@Mr47qwertyuiop3 жыл бұрын
That grandma was so dissapointed in her grandsons final words lol! She thinks hes soft. All the abuse she went through and he still out here simpin for the Dodger's.
@erikarmendariz193 жыл бұрын
And she should say it
@gaggita99223 жыл бұрын
She's the one that was made to move not him. Now whos the soft one.
@syndiccalls99653 жыл бұрын
@@gaggita9922 Ahhhhh Shaddap
@hpsmash773 жыл бұрын
fkin simps
@charlieseafood3 жыл бұрын
Typical Dodgers fan smdh
@chelseal84483 жыл бұрын
Missing Chapter is maybe my favorite Vox series
@robbieaulia64623 жыл бұрын
I guess you like depressing stories
@marlone64973 жыл бұрын
Mine is Vox Borders, Atlas and Darkroom
@grugamersriseup72993 жыл бұрын
Mine is def borders sad they cancelled it though
@DaGreat73 жыл бұрын
@@grugamersriseup7299 WHAT! They actually cancelled it? When ?😭
@grugamersriseup72993 жыл бұрын
@@DaGreat7 it was a while ago though but if you want to see kinda more of it search up Johnny Harris
@QuantumNoir3 жыл бұрын
I live in Tucson, Arizona. Back in the day, a big chunk of downtown was bulldozed in a similar fashion as Dodgers stadium. It was a historic and thriving Mexican American community which was turned into one of the currently most out of date convention centers in the country.
@mizzle29 күн бұрын
I'm in North Phoenix, what's the area you're talking about? I've never heard of that but it's sadly unsurprising :( Lots of gentrification going on always
@emndz99953 жыл бұрын
This is truly sad, the more you know, the more you wish you didn’t know
@23StudiosSports3 жыл бұрын
Ignorance is bliss
@HopeRock4253 жыл бұрын
Not really I am happy that I know this because otherwise it would be burried and forgotten.
@HopeRock4253 жыл бұрын
@@23StudiosSports I'd disagree.
@jhoang8613 жыл бұрын
@@HopeRock425 i totally agree with you. Never disregard history. ✌️
@ShawnLH883 жыл бұрын
That’s what happens when you learn about white america
@MateoQuixote3 жыл бұрын
Missing Chapter is rivaling Borders to be the best series created by Vox. Amazing work
@NickolasRoedel3 жыл бұрын
Ouch, I miss Borders :(
@josephnormyle283 жыл бұрын
Dark room is also a top series.
@wesleyrm763 жыл бұрын
I love Ear Worm.
3 жыл бұрын
Atlas is also very good.
@alexanderherrera55693 жыл бұрын
As an urban and regional planning student, ive learned about so many stories just like this one and the story of Chavez Ravine being one of the most well known case study of injustice done by a city. Unfortunately this still happens, and the fact that you mentioned the SoFi stadium at the end has earned much respect from me. Ever since the plans for the stadium in Inglewood became official, waves of gentrification hit local communities due to real estate investors, house flippers and foreign investors. Now we have a new case study of injustices being rained down on those already struggling. Sadly, the pandemic fueled the pace in which gentrification was already moving rapidly. Another great video Vox.
@snowstrobe3 жыл бұрын
Happens a lot when the Olympics comes to town.
@Rextraordinaire3 жыл бұрын
@@snowstrobe Yup, this story will unfortunately repeat itself over the next few years as LA begins preparations to host in 2028. Chicago saved itself and its' residents a lot of trouble in not winning the bid to host the games in 2016
@rndmkngsfn3 жыл бұрын
But Sofi and Dodger Stadium aren’t exactly the same. I agree, the gentrification around the new stadium is bad will take advantage of the community, but the stadium itself didn’t tear down anyone’s housing. It was built on the site of a horse track. The way the video puts it implies that its problems of displacement are almost on the same level as dodger stadium.
@luodeligesi72383 жыл бұрын
@@rndmkngsfn yeah, this video is very disingenuous in the way it implies that SoFi was built on land forcibly taken away from people like Dodgers Stadium, when in reality it was built on a mix of empty land and an old racetrack.
@secularmonk51763 жыл бұрын
5:47 Interesting juxtaposition of arguments ... affordable housing requires high density rental units; low density homeownership is the suburban model that social critics like the writers at Vox usually claim is capitalism exacerbating economic inequity 6:07 "We were homeowners, and we had affordable housing" ... at low density ... apparently, defending low-density homeownership is OK if the residents' skin is dark enough? 6:54 I concur that low-balling a minority community because they lack political power, THAT is wrong. But the principle of eminent domain, and the argument for using it to increase population density with the goal of more affordable housing ... that is valid 7:50 And then, Vox pivots again, to claim opposition to high density housing is elitist ... if the opponents are white, apparently 10:24 "violently evicted" ... laying hands on those who resist government edict is a CENTRAL role of the police ... I don't see violence, I see a procedurally sound police action (with unjust origins) 12:07 I'm encouraged that at least this modicum of nuance may indicate that the fever is breaking on late 2010s identity politics absolutism ... I can only hope
@juanjosecardenasramirez98443 жыл бұрын
The american government really said “things are going TOO well for the mexicans”
@artavishawkins61003 жыл бұрын
The blacks too bro
@redditstop16533 жыл бұрын
@@artavishawkins6100 black wall street
@samrawitkenfe28763 жыл бұрын
like the video said, the American gov didn’t go to Chavez Ravine with the intention to go like "oh I’m gonna ruin the Mexicans established communities” The American gov, like the video said, wanted to build their plans without the intention of ever considering how it would affect other people, and didn’t care enough to discontinue with their plans. As a result, Chavez Ravine was hurt severely
@jb-eq6no3 жыл бұрын
@@samrawitkenfe2876 yeah there are people who think that they set out to hurt the community (they did anyway) but the goal was making the stadium and making that part of the city full of buildings, the neighborhoods that got destroyed were collateral damage
@arvindhmani063 жыл бұрын
@@samrawitkenfe2876 Maybe so, but it's impossible to imagine an entire community in LA that would be affected like this if it was mainly white people living in it
@NYLFR3 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic because the stadium where Dodgers had played (Ebbets Field) was replaced by government subsidized housing
@grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Friedman In NYC? I dunno. Affordable housing there is desperately needed. Most cities desperately need _affordable_ housing, because it's more profitable to build high end housing.
@chanceDdog20093 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Friedman would you be willing to give up your home at a loss to build a stadium ?
@minorcek3 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Friedman so the answer in no, you wouldnt like it because it is wrong
@grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Friedman Stadium jobs are usually going to be majority part time and low wage.
@grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Friedman ...Look. I can see the government using eminent domain for needed projects. But in this case, they used eminent domain _on the behalf of a private business._ So, the rich have the right to deprive you of your personal property, that being your home, for a pittance or nothing at all, in order for themselves to make money. Is that the country you want to live in? Because you do.
@jazzyj66403 жыл бұрын
only greed and evilness will drive someone to literally throw people out of their homes and then steal the land from them. So freaking hurtful
@isaacninan50533 жыл бұрын
Missing Chapter has got to be the best series on Vox. It would be cool if yall could eventually do an episode on something international too
@thedenskan34403 жыл бұрын
Supposedly, that would be Borders. I miss that series.
@harrymullin3 жыл бұрын
@@thedenskan3440 Johnny Harris left Vox, so sadly Borders is not coming back. You can check out his channel for some cool stories like this about both the US and other countries.
@thedenskan34403 жыл бұрын
@@harrymullin Funny enough, I'm watching his newest video. I know Borders shall rest now and I have come to terms with that. Rest sweet prince.
@jakmanxyom3 жыл бұрын
@@thedenskan3440 No, Borders is too general; Darkroom series seems more appropriate for "dark international history", methinks.
@thedenskan34403 жыл бұрын
@@jakmanxyom I do recognize that, Borders was more of a general story on how borders defined currwnt events. It nonetheless got me hooked on geography and haven't been the same since.
@iceebluu35723 жыл бұрын
That's why Fernando Valenzuela is so iconic, Mexicans wanted nothing to do with the team until 1981 when Fernandomania happened
@TalksOfLife13 жыл бұрын
Yeah if it wasn’t for him, the Dodgers fan base could’ve been made up of barely any Mexicans. I’m glad FernandoMania came because Mexicans know how to celebrate at sports
@douglaslowe53 жыл бұрын
It's ironic..Mexicans justifiably boycotted for years what is now lovingly called Doyer Stadium.
@ActsDriven3 жыл бұрын
Not true. My parents were born in Mexico and I grew up going to Dodgers games in the early 60's. This video makes this a racial thing - it's not. When someone gets wealthy at the expense of others (this videos point), it's about greed.
@douglaslowe53 жыл бұрын
@@ActsDriven I'm curious if your parents were in LA in the late 40s and 50s? My dad was and he hated The Dodgers ( even though the residents were displaced with or without them) Most people today aren't even aware of the history Arechiva Gulch.
@amandadane8683 жыл бұрын
It’s painfully ironic because the Dodgers used to be a Brooklyn baseball team before they were moved to LA in the 1950s. My uncle (who grew up in Brooklyn at the time) told me that decision wasn’t popular with local residents.
@andrewr33623 жыл бұрын
Yep Ebbets Field. Nothing but Apartments buildings now.
@americayeagermeister3 жыл бұрын
Oh it never is popular with the locals when their team relocates
@DPowered23 жыл бұрын
plus it was a part of ruining many minority lives
@MP89-d1u3 жыл бұрын
Bernie Sanders says the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn was a huge turning point in his life.
@robberonbrent3 жыл бұрын
Woooow very insightful comment
@RenaMarmolejo-ph9dv9 ай бұрын
My Mom is the lady in the video Lola. My son Joseph submitted this story to VOX because of his love for his Grandma. He heard about her plight and being forced to move as a child and decided her story needed to be told. My Mom is now 88 years old and doesn't remember a lot now a days but still talks about her life as a child in Chavez Ravine. My Mom was also honored by the City of Los Angeles and given an award for her community activism in our community of Bassett California. She is truly a special woman. 💗
@haskeymorrison8 ай бұрын
She must be a nice woman
@jaker7213 жыл бұрын
So, the people of the Chavez Ravine did everything they were "supposed" to do in a capitalist society. Own property, businesses, start a family, etc. Their reward? Forced eviction.
@kaitlyn__L3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. There are many such stories in American history. Neighbourhoods that did well for themselves destroyed by more powerful business interests, and usually they were inhabited by people of colour. Greenwood Tulsa springs to mind
@D_isco_D_ancer3 жыл бұрын
That "capitalist" society only works for whites.
@OnasaD3 жыл бұрын
“If it’s not white, it’s not right” -The Government Clearly the government ran by why whites did everything in their power to stop other racial ethnicity’s from thriving and making Caucasian people look bad
@kevsan74823 жыл бұрын
It’s only the American dream as long as you’re white, if you’re not white it’s hard to grab the American dream
@67marlins813 жыл бұрын
@@D_isco_D_ancer That's the dumbest statement on the post. You obviously know nothing about laws regulating starting a business- a perfect example of reverse discrimination that evidently you've unbelievably never heard of.
@tanya626-w9f3 жыл бұрын
I am a LA Dodger's fan but I will admit this is great journalism and great presentation. One thing I would change about this is the historian saying "LatinX." It's Latino/a!
@carlosrincon15512 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@thefifthhour453 жыл бұрын
That's an outrageously sized car park.
@DaveWraptastic3 жыл бұрын
It's America, nobody uses public transportation for anything.
@RainierKine3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to America!
@grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын
Middle class people in the US actually seem to fear public transit for racist/classist reasons. I used that slash because the racism is probably there, but the vast majority of American people won't admit it. The classism is more apparent; they'll assert poor people will get on public transit and come rob their house. I picture someone trying to get a lawnmower, toolbox, and TV onto a trolley... on camera...
@lick32273 жыл бұрын
Americans have phobias of public transport essentially
@cheddaz863 жыл бұрын
Q: How many cars could you get one one homeplot? A: 💵💵💵
@jnyerere3 жыл бұрын
Me watching this video like "Yup. That's how they are. That's what they do." This is not an LA story. This is an America story. And as evident with SoFi, they haven't missed a step.
@ambrosia4173 жыл бұрын
Very true. All major metro areas have this story -- NYC, DC, Miami, to name a few. It's painful to bear witness years later.
@Thehighpriestess1083 жыл бұрын
Preach
@dario1100113 жыл бұрын
@@ambrosia417 Miami too? What's the history of this area?
@ambrosia4173 жыл бұрын
@@dario110011 This doc on Amazon: The Black Miami
@slopez62583 жыл бұрын
All true except Sofi was built over Hollywood Park Racetrack 🤷🏽♂️
@packerfanbd19953 жыл бұрын
This is just tragic. Thank you for bringing this story to light.
@annettedflores3 жыл бұрын
My mother’s Dolores Leon,she’s telling a story that we’ve been told all our lives. My father/brother went on to fight for our country but my grandfather who owned homes,bars on or near CR died young and never fully recovered from this! We are his legacy.
@Adam-dd5fx3 жыл бұрын
He never fully recovered from death?
@jicao3 жыл бұрын
Stop lying you aren’t even subscribed to this Chanel how could she be your mother
@joesandoval37413 жыл бұрын
You stink,that isn’t your mother
@gopher65323 жыл бұрын
@@RollerBladingSuxs how tf do you know
@gopher65323 жыл бұрын
@@joesandoval3741 how tf do you know
@davidcamacho24673 жыл бұрын
I have family members who will not go for the Dodgers because of what happened at Chávez Ravine and go for the Angels instead. I’m a Dodger fan myself but I think it is important for Chicano excellence that this story and others like it be told
@4v643 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Friedman Chicano is a term used to describe a Mexican-American
@MiguelGG033 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, but might wanna tell your family that when Chavez Ravine first opened in 1962 it was the home for both the Dodgers and Angels. Looks like the Angels didn’t care much about the history at the Ravine neither. Just saying.
@theDavidChannel13 жыл бұрын
@@MiguelGG03 good point lol
@MiguelGG033 жыл бұрын
@Ramen Lover Oh I know it was temporary. Still doesn’t change the fact that both clubs ignored the issues at the Ravine. Angels could have refused and used the coliseum for those 4-5 years.
@joeyclemenza73393 жыл бұрын
As a strong and proud Chicano and dodger fan myself... this is a VERY hard part of Dodger history i've had to reconcile with. However, I think the end of the video says it perfectly... the Chicana/o community have managed to take back this team in the name of pride. It was even poetic justice that a Mexican like Julio Urias notch the final out of the 2020 World Series, bringing the title back to LA. I grew up with Dodger Stadium being something like a shrine to me... but also to this day, treat it as a memorial for those Mexican-Americans it displaced. I think it's important that all Chicana/o fans of the Dodgers know the history of this stadium as well.
@peripateticmind84613 жыл бұрын
I'm so grateful for this series. It outrages me that all these tragedies were probably not considered important or "big" enough to make it into our textbooks, but their ramifications are still so important to this day :(
@martinc.7203 жыл бұрын
“This is America, the land of the free. Just go be free somewhere else.” 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@martinc.7203 жыл бұрын
@@googlewhyforwardfaqforward4076 Exactly. Even then.
@gcgcgcg3 жыл бұрын
Liberty and justice for all... "Hey, get out of your home now so we can destroy it on front of you. This is where home plate is gonna be"
@pokemasterx42443 жыл бұрын
@@googlewhyforwardfaqforward4076 white people aren't free wym
@Jedii9063 жыл бұрын
Some random white person dies we don’t start pro testing
@Jedii9063 жыл бұрын
@@googlewhyforwardfaqforward4076 cause we don’t need to
@carlaeyyy6493 жыл бұрын
I've said this before, historically everytime I see a thriving minority community, somehow someway it gets destroyed. The pattern is astonishing
@sofakingonmynuts14383 жыл бұрын
Cant have society being to successful, you will lose control
@applesyrupgaming3 жыл бұрын
yes, and during the 2020 riots, minority owned businesses were looted.
@laneythelame3 жыл бұрын
Minority means it's easier to take advantage of these communities so im actually not astonished, it isnt right but makes perfect sense
@mooskanate3 жыл бұрын
@@applesyrupgaming In Beverly Hills and Santa Monica?
@mooskanate3 жыл бұрын
@Carlaeyyy Chavez Ravine was not a thriving minority community, unless you have a different definition of thriving.
@doyledean27633 жыл бұрын
Great video. I grew up near there and was a Dodger fan. I was told that only one family lived in Chavez Ravine and they became massively rich by selling the land to the Dodgers. I never knew this story.
@HVACSoldier3 жыл бұрын
@Doyle Dean That’s what the politicians want you to believe.
@caclax112 жыл бұрын
@@HVACSoldier touché
@iainronald42173 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting growing up and realizing that all the "big, dangerous slums" and "bad parts of town" we were warned about are minority communities viewed through the tinted glasses of systemic racism. One of my favourite things is to go in these areas, socialize, learn from the people, eat at their restaurants.
Same with me, Iain. I have gone to my hometown's black sections to be a visitor, shopper, restaurant customer. Other whites don't get it.
@iainronald42173 жыл бұрын
@@brianarbenz7206 the small town I’m originally from became a hub for immigration, our Filipino population went from 0.4% to 34% in under a decade. So, naturally, I knew quite a lot of Filipino people, was invited to their family events. Wherever I move, the first area I feel comfortable is the Filipino area. In my city, just this year, I found a kickass Jamaican place too, I love eating there!
@brianarbenz72063 жыл бұрын
@@iainronald4217 I'm in Louisville, Ky., where until about the 1980s, the African-American community was largely all the non-white portion of our city. I worked as a news reporter for a mainstream newspaper, then a progressive paper and fell in love with the Black neighborhoods I learned about on my beats. I was hanging out in them long before the Breona Taylor killing was the focus. Since the '80s, Louisville has become very multi-racial and multi-lingual. Louisville, like the nation as a whole, has lost job opportunities, affordable housing and the meth and heroin are everywhere, but the diversity has been wonderful.
@brianarbenz72063 жыл бұрын
@@rubenaj9716 I think your cat has been walking on your keyboard.
@mnf21393 жыл бұрын
Citizens Against Social Housing = CASH Does this feel familiar?
@MysticKenji23 жыл бұрын
it's like something out of a novel
@TheMrProboscis3 жыл бұрын
And then they blamed everything on socialism when it had nothing to do with it. Sounds about right.
@d.b.46713 жыл бұрын
And to top it all off, the city went on to fund the stadium with public money. I'd love to hear what the people at CASH thought of that.
@theamateurobserver3 жыл бұрын
Cash sounds like trump
@eddiecruz15323 жыл бұрын
Inglewood resident here and I am afraid this is what the future of Inglewood holds.
@mindhunter913 жыл бұрын
There's so much in this world I don't know. Thanks to the internet for making me realise that.
@dirrrrrrr3 жыл бұрын
They did a similar thing to the Los Angeles Convention center in the 70s my dad said that he and his mother lived around the convention center and they were forced to move out of the space
@OasisMusicOfficial3 жыл бұрын
As a second generation Latin American in LA, the Dodger stadium is incredibly iconic. However, the story is still really depressing
@kscott63783 жыл бұрын
This is so sad. Thank you for sharing this story. It sounds similar to the story of Central Park in New York being made.
@pokemasterx42443 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right, although that one was a lot simpler
@jorgedoe22273 жыл бұрын
I’ve talked about this multiple times and was called a liar, thank you for bringing it to light.
@joeyclemenza73393 жыл бұрын
Julio Urias, the man who notched the final out of the 2020 world series... is not only a Mexican player revered by the country of Mexico, but by Chicana/os all across the nation. Our love for the Dodgers is so very touchy and complex... that yeah, Chavez Ravine holds a dark past, but also encapsulates beloved memories in time and across multiple generations. It's just a really hard past to come to terms with.
@erikarmendariz193 жыл бұрын
Mexican identity is violent; Mexico is also a colonial-capitalist state. Only in the shadow US imperialism can Mexico seem like it has some activist potential.
@seankiesling2054 Жыл бұрын
Now he's a criminal
@pbcash77882 ай бұрын
Urias unfortunately is a bad person and criminal. His Mexican identity aside.
@GordonWrigley3 жыл бұрын
"Dodgers are here to stay, they are LAs team" they used to be NYC's team until the billionaire owner got a better offer.
@metrofilmer88943 жыл бұрын
The Yankees are definitely NY’s team now though
@actormanic3 жыл бұрын
No, they were Brooklyn's team, not NYC's. NYC's teams were the Yankees and the Giants. The Giants moved to San Francisco the same year the Dodgers moved to LA. The Mets were created to replace the Giants. Nobody has ever replaced the Dodgers in NY.
@actormanic3 жыл бұрын
@@metrofilmer8894 And the Yankees were NY's team then too. The Dodgers were Brooklyn's team.
@erikarmendariz193 жыл бұрын
@@actormanic I feel like the point is that all of that doesn't matter lol. Like this "identity" that baseball teams carry isn't real. People are attaching identity to a thing that is loyal to nothing except the whims of capitalism.
@GTAVictor91283 жыл бұрын
As a European, it would be so weird if European football clubs could just casually relocate to another city. For us, it's something unfathomable since the city is part of the club's identity and history.
@_mishimoshi_3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a photography book I found in my class in hs about people who lived in these neighborhoods. Broke my heart, but wasn't really surprised learning about what happened.
@ryanleethomas3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a lot of the Duranguito neighborhood in El Paso, Texas. There was a push for a ballpark four years ago, which was built nearby, but this neighborhood is also targeted continually for spurring development.
@laneythelame3 жыл бұрын
Sad that we can probably all find an example of this happening in our own areas
@nnmartin943 жыл бұрын
I just cannot IMAGINE the government going to a white neighborhood and giving them half the cost of their property to move out. The Karens would merge into a super-karen and ask to see the manager of the planet before that could happen. This stuff only happens to the disenfranchised.
@projectc.j.j33103 жыл бұрын
How tf do I think any cities start😂 small settlements then skyscrapers and gov buildings forcing people to move further. Literally happened to everyone
@jackieflores92703 жыл бұрын
oh man the 710 freeway history. they made it all the way up to south Pasadena, burrowing through low income neighborhoods, but as soon as they got to the whites in S.P, full stop to construction. worst part was that they made through the wealthy black neighborhood, but could not get even close to the white
@CurtisDensmore13 жыл бұрын
It happens.
@96cespinoza3 жыл бұрын
This is similar to most neighborhoods that got torn down when the interstates came to be
@JimGamingTV3 жыл бұрын
you should just rename, “Missing Chapter,” to “America Being More Racist Than We Were Originally Taught”
@hwwh81453 жыл бұрын
@@ASS_ault you've conveniently ignored the segregation, red-lining and literal clauses that stated only whites could own homes and land.... And they just so happened to do it again in a non-white area. It amazes me how racists can skip over basic facts/history.
@siderilegreshileyi573 жыл бұрын
All of their missing chapter videos I mean all of them is about the missing part of American racist history and it's legacy! It's not about missing history other than racism in their videos. 🤔
@projectc.j.j33103 жыл бұрын
Not really…. This was the 60s. If this surprises u Probably nothing about history
@jieliang3 жыл бұрын
@@ASS_ault you think only white people can be racist?
@gravscool3 жыл бұрын
“latinx” bro what
@Rysander13 жыл бұрын
Funny how it's just more white people telling people how to talk. They don't even realize the irony of their colonization.
@GerMar90 Жыл бұрын
They had me until I heard that term. These youngsters trying to fight ethnocide by using the very terms the liberal whites give us.
@pkflyers3 жыл бұрын
I lived in So Cal all my life and didn't know about this. Always thought it was an empty mountain range at the time. Sadly, i'm not surprised it wasnt
@OnasaD3 жыл бұрын
Owning a house is the best way to build wealth in America, now imagine someone taking away that American dream just because your neighborhood doesn’t match their ethnicity, ever wondered why blacks and browns are always in the roughest parts of the city meanwhile Caucasian people live in massive houses in the suburbs?
@projectc.j.j33103 жыл бұрын
No not really😂 I grew up in Brooklyn
@aaronwilliams6989 Жыл бұрын
I will say that many poor white people exist, too.
@melreslor21143 жыл бұрын
Don Normark’s photographs are a telling story of the area pre-Dodger Stadium. Chávez Ravine, 1949: A Los Angeles Story is Normark’s history and art book released in 1999. Normark was a photography student around 20 years old at the time and took photos of the residents and property, getting to meet many of the people there. My country library had a copy of the book, so I read through the book several years ago.
@mazo6913 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for collecting these voices, images, and perspectives on Chavez Ravine.
@charlescummings22053 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they, the city, really need to apologize for doing that. It was a beautiful area. They could have built that stadium anywhere.
@CTEagleCeltic3 жыл бұрын
Shame... NY Central Park has the same history... Tulsa’s is even worse.
@atribecalledjudah54363 жыл бұрын
I’m an Angels fan myself. Many Mexican families are fans of the Dodgers, and are the true heartbeat of the stadium because it sits on ancestral land. Like Tupac said, it wouldn’t be LA without them. My wife is Mexican and I know she will be disgusted when she sees this. The truth always comes to light and Karma will remain undefeated.
@almightysosa30073 жыл бұрын
Going to be heartbreaking when some of these diehard dodgers fans find out about this, it’s a shame too because so much of their fan base is Hispanic
@iceebluu35723 жыл бұрын
@@almightysosa3007 most dodger fans know of the history already, thats why Fernandomania is so iconic to latino dodger fans
@ifanismail65643 жыл бұрын
Public housing as "communistic"... I can't even...
@Empr4evr3 жыл бұрын
The truly sad part is the attitude toward public houing has barely changed, and its detractors would use many of the same arguments and talking points today.
@trumpetperson113 жыл бұрын
Eminent Domain is a blight on society, and its truly astonishing that it is still legal. Its like these lawmakers never learned about conflict of interest. 'Lets have our people figure out how little we can pay you to avoid suit'. Lets completely disregard the cost of moving, job relocation, and other hardship, not to mention always low balled property value.
@williamwrede91923 жыл бұрын
Never ever ever EVER stop this series :) please..
@toddkobelljr.20043 жыл бұрын
Kid: They are southern California's team Me, a Padres fan: WHO'S TEAM?
@silversan97433 жыл бұрын
It is just so strange that a team just moves 2.800 miles like it is no big deal in the US. All the old Fans heve no way to come in the stadion again as if the team didn`t care about fans as long as money would flow.
@lukefruits10663 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's true....
@toddkobelljr.20043 жыл бұрын
@Ramen Lover trust me, I try to avoid it like the plague.
@Logh0s3 жыл бұрын
Missing Chapter and Borders will always be my favorite series...
@40718163 жыл бұрын
It might sound un-related, but stories like Dodgers moved from Brooklyn to LA is one of the reasons why European football fans hated their american owners
@theredraven2 жыл бұрын
I doubt most European football fans even know the first thing about how the Dodgers ended up in LA.
@howdy1113 жыл бұрын
Vox never really disappoints in presentation, narration. Can understand the work behind this. And these are the contents that we needed. On how past is demolished to build the future. Well done.
@nate3825 ай бұрын
As a Mexican American just having seen this video for the first time today, It makes me feel better about becoming an Angels fan as a kid
@adriancooper783 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Shaking my head in disbelief. Wow!!!! What an injustice!!
@rikeep3 жыл бұрын
This story reminds me of the building of the I-10 through Treme in New Orleans, overnight changing a whole community, a real injustice.
@satiric_3 жыл бұрын
Sadly most large cities in the US have similar stories - it's not like there were freeway-shaped empty plots of land before the interstate system was built.
@bluelotusnanebi3 жыл бұрын
That was just absolutely heartbreaking I’m hopeful that Dodgers will eventually face its stadium history, and will make sure that the history of the district is known. Might name parts of the stadium after historic streets or something, there are many ways. It won’t solve it, but it will be a great gesture.
@johnnycage10573 жыл бұрын
Face what. It was the LA politics that’s to blame not the Dodgers organization
@tecpaocelotl3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you brought this story.
@damionhernandez73833 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was born and raised in those same homes and was moved out by those same people , i wish i had the knowledge that i have now after he has past and my family members are now trying to tell his story
@cesarhernandez70643 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to Bunker Hills in downtown LA. It used to be wooden Victorian mansions. It was five feet tall an one of the residents still remembers where "The Castle" used to be located at.
@Trx-ep7rg3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Recently I went to Dodger Stadium and the infrastructure to get there, being on a hill, was terrible. The last mile or two took about 20 minutes (bumper to bumper traffic) and the parking space was extremely disorganized yet humongous.
@Clarkyson3 жыл бұрын
I love the dodgers but was unaware of this. Horrifying to watch that last family be literally ripped from their home.
@dxmnnndanny20923 жыл бұрын
Sounds like to me the Los Angeles Dodgers owe some compensation and reparations to Mexicans.
@ariswerdlow14113 жыл бұрын
the team is so popular among Mexicans. The compensation is years of great Mexican players and Mexicans for the most part have forget about it.
@dxmnnndanny20923 жыл бұрын
@@ariswerdlow1411 Dolores and myself amongst millions of other Mexicans feel differently.
@machineandshaman3 жыл бұрын
No. No, they don’t.
@hiphoploverjon91803 жыл бұрын
@@dxmnnndanny2092 Lol too bad there's millions of Mexicans in LA that outweigh all of that including myself.
@dxmnnndanny20923 жыл бұрын
@@hiphoploverjon9180 sure Jon
@SlaughterDog3 жыл бұрын
It still baffles me as to how there hasn’t been any uprisings strong enough to remove those in power who are responsible for this kind of stuff
@zonaryorange87343 жыл бұрын
Cause this kind of stuff happened 60 years ago. Still in range of a lifetime, but those city officials aren’t in power anymore. The best thing would be to imagine their fury over the way things have changed and how the people in power aren’t always just white guys (still mostly, but not always)
@aaronwilliams6989 Жыл бұрын
@@zonaryorange8734IT STILL HAPPENS NOW!
@choncha233 ай бұрын
Those people are likely dead.
@jagenv3 жыл бұрын
"Who bares the cost for change?" that was deep
@119Agent3 жыл бұрын
My family is from Wilson, Florida. The Government did the same thing to our homes. Only the gravesites remain.
@aaronwilliams6989 Жыл бұрын
And here in Cincinnati. Gentrification to this day!
@pedrocalifa97693 жыл бұрын
That’s why I will never support the Dodgers. I heard the story from one of the victims and it is heartbreaking.
@BiNiaRiS3 жыл бұрын
These people were not evicted to make room for the stadium though. The Dodgers really had nothing to do with this whole thing at all, except for the fact that the city ended up giving it to them. By the time The Dodgers are involved all the damage had already been done.
@aaronwilliams6989 Жыл бұрын
@@BiNiaRiSThat's not the point!
@schootingstarr3 жыл бұрын
haha the face of the old woman when her son explained that despite all that he remains a dodgers fan and will raise his son as one, too.
@davidnoticiero67283 жыл бұрын
I grew up in East LA in the 1980s and 90s, had you told me that the "barrio" I grew up in would become a gentrified hodgepodge of white hipsters and a multiethnic mix of young urban professionals taking root in our community just after the year 2000, we would've laughed at you. Yet, here it is, there are still many pockets of first and second generation Latinos rooted in the Eastside, but make no mistake the majority of the wealth and political clout of the area has changed hands and the historical culture is evolving, but it has previously, in the 20's and 30's East LA was a predominately Jewish community and after World War 2 an influx of Japanese Americans coming back from internment took root and Jews fled to the burgeoning West Side, then the Japanese took root just to the East in numerous cities in the San Gabriel Valley along with First generation Chinese and then Vietnamese immigrants. In LA, the only thing that is inherently permanent is rapid and sudden change.
@herpderpy94453 жыл бұрын
All this destruction and heartache in order to hold a team stolen from New York. What a trash legacy.
@gengiz803 жыл бұрын
Oh American capitalism you have so many skeletons in your closet
@mborges21333 жыл бұрын
We will never forget Barrio Chavez Ravine!!!
@mscardioqueen3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you displace people from the land and home that they love (regardless of country) - they forever are resentful and pass on that resentment to their children.
@actormanic3 жыл бұрын
I don't see much resentment from the community these days. They LOOOVE their precious Doyers!
@ErnestGoesToMadeas3 жыл бұрын
All the people that grandmother is resentful at are dead. If she can't get over it and still takes that anger out on the team or other people, then she is no better than the people who took her family's land.
@Sweet.Delirium3 жыл бұрын
That's f*cked up 😠😔
@mindgamewords3 жыл бұрын
Every Dodger fan knows this history. Which is why Fernando was a big deal. It brought back the mexican community to the Dodgers.
@evanwalsh56883 жыл бұрын
Yeah kinda insulting to compare him to domestic-assault-charged and not that great of a pitcher Urias
@kelvinmorales64163 жыл бұрын
@@evanwalsh5688 what are you talking about. Urias wasn’t charged with anything, look it up. The incident you’re talking about didn’t result in any injury and the woman he was with told both police officers and witnesses that she did not believe she was a victim of anything
@evanwalsh56883 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinmorales6416 Fair enough, I was thinking of the fact that he got suspended under the domestic violence policy, not the same thing. Either way, not in the same conversation as Fernando in any way was my point.
@andrewrussack86473 жыл бұрын
‘Who can stand in the way, when there’s a dollar to be made!’, Midnight Oil.
@jaydaytoday35483 жыл бұрын
I shed a tear for what happened and firmly believe the Dodgers and LA should pay reparations to the families of those displaced. That was F#$%ed up.
@marscoriad2133 жыл бұрын
This mirrors what happened to Africville in Nova Scotia, Canada. The only difference? African Canadians were removed from their homes, their Church, built in 1849, was torn down, and the land was converted into a dog park. A Dog Park... that is beyond insulting.
@markmilitant3 жыл бұрын
I got a similar story from the displacement of la familia Rosario in the Dominican Republic
@anaheimauthentic50992 жыл бұрын
Dear vox, don't ever change or get watered down. This is real journalism! 👏🙌
@crypticx88103 жыл бұрын
This same situation happened here in NYC. The cross Bronx expressway was built on former houses and peoples properties. Like these former residents, they too had to move on a short moments notice.
@grantdowling85503 жыл бұрын
I'm an LA native. 23 years old, 23 years a Dodgers fan. Just found out about this because of this video. Thank you.
@pokeygorilla93683 жыл бұрын
It's called Eminent Domain, It happens all for the time for public projects, roads, bridges, ports, railways, military bases, national parks, and yes sometimes for stadiums.
@donatello9563 жыл бұрын
It's Latinos, not LatinX. I never knew the history of the Dodger Stadium. Very sad how all those people lost their homes.
@ansonpanton69843 жыл бұрын
My high school history teacher taught us all about this. Shout out to Mr Manghera 🤘🏾🤘🏾
@warriorfb22163 жыл бұрын
Who would have guessed that a plot line from L.A. Noire was so real.
@joeyclemenza73393 жыл бұрын
LA Noire was based on some real historical points in LA's past.
@Calvin_Coolage3 жыл бұрын
Hollywood and the money it brought in ended up being LA's boon, but also it's bane.
@Hotlooksamerica3 жыл бұрын
Between Vox and Vice, they are gonna reveal the dark side of everything.
@carlosrincon15512 жыл бұрын
Only of what fits their narrative.
@austinreed58053 жыл бұрын
Los Angeles really had no space to have a massive sports facility. Dodger Stadium was an example of that. The only sports venue that doesn’t follow said rule in LA is the Staples Center.
@KRYMauL3 жыл бұрын
If a city becomes more popular they want will a sports stadium to keep people coming back. But Vox would rather not talk about growth and change of cities because that goes against their narrative.
@kennethjose71593 жыл бұрын
12:39 grandma: “this boy doesn’t know what he’s talking about”
@syedwarsi113 жыл бұрын
Sofi stadium didn't replace anyone... Idk why y'all claimed that in the video. It is made of the land of the Hollywood Park racetrack... Gotta fact check
@TheBrownMON3 жыл бұрын
It's more of a comment on the plans to renovate that place to public housing
@syedwarsi113 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrownMON I have been following the Hollywood Park racetrack area for decades, there was never a proposal for affordable housing there. If anything there was supposed to be a huge Walmart there.
@coolcase802 ай бұрын
New look at history is interesting and also sad, but connecting Dodgers negatively is an overstatement.
@trenauldo3 жыл бұрын
Having grown up in LA in the late 70s and through the 80s, I have to say I have never heard or seen anything like this about Chavez through all my years of schooling or anywhere else. I’m shocked and sickened, but sadly, I’m not surprised. I can’t help but wonder what that land is worth today in the midst of LA sprawl and how those families that were rustled out of their homes should have benefitted from that appreciation. As a white guy, I have to say one thing America has always been good at is moving non-whites off land that they want and using force to do it. It’s shameful. I wonder if current and former Dodger players of Mexican descent are aware, and if so, if they’re troubled? I’ve never heard any Dodger ever speak out about this injustice or pay any kind of honor or homage to the residents whose lives were summarily upended as a result of this land grab. Shameful.
@ameridesign3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Echo Park, very close to Chavez ravine.
@user-zq1vg8xm1p3 жыл бұрын
Being this early makes me feel powerful
@Justachamp7723 жыл бұрын
yes
@fromulus3 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@bensoncheung28013 жыл бұрын
69 likes, nice.
@gregoryfujita82652 жыл бұрын
Thank u for posting this...I'm 4th generation LA native...my grandmother has friends that had to be removed from Chavez Ravine in '59.....I've always felt the Dodgers should win the World Series every year 4 the memory of those families that were ripped from their homes.....
@carlosrincon15512 жыл бұрын
More like the Dodgers should be cursed and never win the world series until they tear down the stadium in honor and memory of the displaced families.