I can only imagine how frustrating this song is to play live when you have thousands of people clapping to the piano..
@Secretlyanothername4 жыл бұрын
People who sing along... they pay $100 to listen to someone, then sing over them like they're in the shower. They disgust me.
@seanmatthewking4 жыл бұрын
Lol calm down
@Cargo_Bay4 жыл бұрын
@@Secretlyanothername you seem fun
@Cargo_Bay4 жыл бұрын
prolly not. Most people have the in-ear monitors and it kind of tunes out the crowd and has the music go to their ears
@bsegovia234 жыл бұрын
Secretlyanothername the Japanese wait for not interrupt concerts. It’s nice and you can hear everything, buts it’s a boring show.
@khetaglagkuev60013 жыл бұрын
So Radiohead basically created something that they are secretly hearing differently than their audience, so they are the only ones who know the real song. That’s just beautiful
@kiiro7122 жыл бұрын
No, when the drums kick in at 1:20 of the album version, you hear the syncopation too
@nge13012 жыл бұрын
@@kiiro712 not really, that snare-kick does not help much to disambiguate the down beat from the offbeat. Especially because the kick goes with the piano.
@koiyujo15432 жыл бұрын
exactly it's amazing
@tomsxe2 жыл бұрын
@@nge1301 you can feel it at 1:20, and specially at 3:10
@julioricardo2415 Жыл бұрын
And made easy listening a 10/4 time signature with Everything....Just a Beautifull talent
@stitchgrimly61674 жыл бұрын
The most profound thing for me is that the syncopation gives the effect of gasping for one last breath, but only the performer - ie. the dying person - is aware of it. The outside world just sees regular breathing and pulse. Only the gasper feels the gasp.
@jeffgoble92067 жыл бұрын
Radiohead's music is so interesting that you can make a 10 minute long music theory analysis of that one time Thom Yorke made a mistake.
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
Another 38 minute video, too
@billhicks87 жыл бұрын
But this isn't even a big deal. There are syncopated, irregular rhythms in all kinds of songs. There are loads of interesting things Radiohead has done in their music that are far more interesting than this.
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
That's not what this video is saying though, that it's syncopated. It's about how the syncopation is totally buried in the album and later versions, but the band still hears it fast and syncopated.
@Datpleb7 жыл бұрын
Warren, does that mean the syncopation isn't even there anymore but they act as if it were?
@jeffgoble92067 жыл бұрын
Debora A the syncopation is still there, but they eliminated the downbeats beats that make it easier to hear. The music is still framed around it which is why they have to make sure they all "feel" it correctly before they start. They do what's called "subdividing", which basically means feeling a faster portion of the beat. It helps the band stay together and adds a forward energy to the song.
@Carlos-ln8fd7 жыл бұрын
Those crappy cell phone recordings of concerts are finally useful!
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha right?
@jaywonlee14367 жыл бұрын
Carlos haha yeah, cellphones back in the 90's sucked.
@GoLDnTRiXX7 жыл бұрын
BTW theres a version with the crap video but good audio.
@scyhte827 жыл бұрын
also cellphones in the 90's didnt record videos. :D
@dundee64025 жыл бұрын
Jaywon Lee 90s? Huh
@shruggzdastr8-facedclown6 жыл бұрын
So, essentially, they're essentially playing to a muted drummer in their heads which only they hear -- delivering something that sounds darker and more-detached to the listener but which is brighter and more-engaged in their own minds?!
@ChristianNelsonn5 жыл бұрын
That's the gist of it, yeah. It's actually kind of beautiful when you think about it. The song is about death, or more specifically, about a dying man saying goodbye to his loved ones. It's sad because, you know, it's a dying man's last message to loved ones, but he doesn't quite feel that way. *_"Because I know today has been the most perfect day I've ever seen."_* He doesn't feel sad, he feels glad. Brings a whole new perspective to the song's double identity. God, I love songs that tell a story.
@warrenmusic5 жыл бұрын
WELL PUT
@andrewd25344 жыл бұрын
No they're playing between the notes it's not that that complicated vox always exaggerate
@justanotherfishinbikinibot60604 жыл бұрын
i think that’s why they chose to use syncopation in it. it’s one thing to create a great song, but to actually use musical themes to express the idea is another. i think it’s genius.
@stitchgrimly61674 жыл бұрын
Essentially.
@dearmrfrodo7 жыл бұрын
now tell me are you rushing or are you dragging?
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
Great movie.
@bswinn977 жыл бұрын
Rushing just a hair
@gregoryswift95737 жыл бұрын
lol
@TheBogski7 жыл бұрын
dearmrfrodo not quite my tempo
@StreetHierarchy7 жыл бұрын
Neither Russian nor dragon
@GeneralBlaguin5 жыл бұрын
Easy... can we talk about Pyramid Song now ?
@dungeonmasterblaster56005 жыл бұрын
Riiiiight?!
@okcomputera96475 жыл бұрын
Pyramid Song, AKA 3+3+4+3+3=5
@DarfinxCore5 жыл бұрын
Pyramid Song is in 4/4. What you perceive as quarter notes are actually dotted rhythms.
@literallyjustmyname23535 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5W9hIKlhKtog9U
@archologyzero5 жыл бұрын
@@okcomputera9647 Yeah Pyramid is actually really simple, and in 4/4.
@GroupConglomerate5 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me that I really don't know anything about music. Lol
@crieverytim4 жыл бұрын
they really make this much more difficult than it is
@stitchgrimly61674 жыл бұрын
They're trying to make it seem like some grand genius undertaking was made but it's extremely simple and utilises jazz techniques that have been around for ages (and again, aren't complex). This is about getting views. All songs have tricks we could blow out of proportion if we wanted.
@LocalManMakesMusic3 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry neither does Vox. There is a ton of laughable nonsense in this video if you do know what they are talking about.
@user-wx8mi1pd6g3 жыл бұрын
@@LocalManMakesMusic classically trained guy here, what was wrong here?
@Mercury5748 ай бұрын
You don't need to, music is music
@responsibilitytoawe6 жыл бұрын
I’m tired of watching old videos, why aren’t you guys making anything like this anymore? this is an amazing work.
@BeatrizLopes-hx2qn2 жыл бұрын
yessssss😢
@Erin-000 Жыл бұрын
Still yes
@adxthree4199 Жыл бұрын
Just my 2, but it might be due to the devaluation of music content across nearly all platforms
@jack-uv6mt Жыл бұрын
why are you watching a video you watched already lol
@responsibilitytoawe Жыл бұрын
@@jack-uv6mt don't you watch movies again and again sometimes because they're that good? 😉
@maakenx5 жыл бұрын
why does Vox have to be so extra, instead of just clapping they pull out a $150 sampler to do the clapping
@Diamond_Tiara5 жыл бұрын
they are americans, they like to clap a lot.
@thegoodguy444 жыл бұрын
@@Diamond_Tiara they like to applaud themselves endlessly.
@averyprice94224 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@supercoolyoutubename4 жыл бұрын
If you have it, might as well use it
@matturner68904 жыл бұрын
because their rhythm was that bad
@profaneuprising6 жыл бұрын
Musicians are downplaying the video because syncopation is nothing new. True, I play music for decades and I get that. But the tricky part here is having no clue to the downbeat through the entire song and singing on top of it. Of course, nothing impossible for a seasoned musician on a studio, but it can become very risky for a live performance.
@boozalm37156 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter...He sings in time with his chords...so there's no confusion.
@TheSquareOnes6 жыл бұрын
@@boozalm3715 Not quite, some lines start in unison with the piano and some lines start off it so either way you want to think about where the chords are hitting he still has to feel the syncopation. Given that even talking while playing is an acquired skill that can take a lot of practice even a "simple" song like this can be difficult to sing (keeping in mind that he probably wants to be perfectly locked in to give the best performance rather than just phoning it in and being "close enough") if you're having an off night.
@boozalm37156 жыл бұрын
@@TheSquareOnes I see comments like this on the piano only version...I'm mostly talking about that one since i listen to that.
@TheSquareOnes6 жыл бұрын
@@boozalm3715 That's what I'm talking about too, his vocals don't uniformly match the piano.
@inlonging5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@RafaelJoseBurgos7 жыл бұрын
Not quite my tempo.
@Vox7 жыл бұрын
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@RafaelJoseBurgos7 жыл бұрын
OMG you repplied. Is the best thing that happened in this year so far in my average venezuelan life.
@daniellevy17037 жыл бұрын
That and the people's revolution.
@CodyAlushin7 жыл бұрын
Replied with a quirky gif, even! Vox is on the ball.
@bryanlilib7 жыл бұрын
This made my day
@patcupo7 жыл бұрын
It's a specific type of syncopation called "anticipation". All of these smart musicians and no one mentioned that the piano chords anticipate beats 1 and 3 by an 1/8th note. It's what gives the song that forward momentum. Also, if you just heard the piano chords alone and clapped along with them, you wouldn't be wrong. In order to use syncopation, you need something else to syncopate against. From the listener's perspective, the piano is the steady beat, the drums enter and sound like they're syncopated against the piano, but then there's suddenly a point when the piano is actually syncopated against the drums. It's a jarring effect, a big switch, but it's definitely not the first time it's been used. Listen to an Afro-Cuban tumbao bass line by itself and try to find the downbeat. All antici ....... pation.
@makkapetanovic68387 жыл бұрын
Patrick Cupo Any syncopation with focus on the upbeats is going to anticipate those beats you were talking about tho? I don't see how you can have syncopation on the upbeats without that
@patcupo7 жыл бұрын
mak kapetanovic I see what you're saying. You can have the opposite though, a delayed attack. Those four piano chords would just be half notes on beats 1 and 3 but they're anticipated. But they could have been delayed an 1/8 note on the ands of 1 and 3.
@jackdiller90877 жыл бұрын
Patrick gets it.
@MARSBELLA17 жыл бұрын
Is the drummer in this band frustrated then? Someone just asked me that?
@patcupo7 жыл бұрын
Radiohead's drummer? I doubt he's frustrated. He's an awesome musician and I'm sure he can handle it.
@cheesecakelasagna5 жыл бұрын
The outro should've been just the entire video 9:48
@pricesmith84505 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@pricesmith84505 жыл бұрын
Saved me time
@coffee57365 жыл бұрын
fr
@warrenmusic5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@averywiese55294 жыл бұрын
thank you
@superomelet28977 жыл бұрын
I found it to be an odd choice to put together a ten minute video on this song without focusing on the second half of the recorded version, where the percussion changes and the rhythmic complexity is most evident.
@jonathanpalmquist48947 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you! I made a video that shows this because so many people are coming away from this still not able to hear the displaced rhythm: /watch?v=7M7FRpvUf8M
@Darel137127 жыл бұрын
But you are wrong there. Your 4 is the actual 1. And vox's 1 is the actual 4 when they show where to clap lol. They showed places to clap before the piano while they should be after. Listen to the guy in the end of the video to get it right.
@grtrukat93605 жыл бұрын
Limelight by rush is a far better example
@redlion1455 жыл бұрын
I know this is late, but you should check out the original video warrenmusic put out about this track. It's like 30 minutes (they referenced it here in the Vox video) but he does go into detail on the second half of the studio version and how it reveals the syncopation later in the song. I think they ignored it here for the sake of the journalistic narrative. Vox have got to tell a story, not post a 30 minute diatribe about a single song. It's part of their brand (and why they have so many subscribers) that they can broach more subjects in a lighter manner than people like Warren, who actually study and teach specific subjects, in this case music.
@nmikloiche7 жыл бұрын
I'm a drummer so I understand how super interesting syncopation is when added to a song. What makes Videotape so god damn crazy is that the song opens and is built on the syncopated beat. Most often syncopation is an element added by the drummer or the bass player to add a bit of interest to the song, and is only played for a short time, like in the bridge leading up to the chorus or in a break. Loved this video and I'm still trying to find the beat myself. The audience clapping on what they think is the 2 and 4 of the measure is really what is making it most difficult.
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
That's right on! You can hear it in my syncopated version over on my Twitter profile @warrenlain if you are so inclined!
@Urbanmystic1236 жыл бұрын
One name...Stewart Copeland
@joelcoool6 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about syncopation is everywhere
@warrenmusic6 жыл бұрын
ThunderHawk606 then why did Phil struggle for two years to find the downbeat?
@joelcoool6 жыл бұрын
WARRENMUSIC because it's a confusing riff? I'm not sure what that has to do with anything
@josephwright42225 жыл бұрын
“No ones watching this video anymore” “Probably”
@cfloster7 жыл бұрын
Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3
@TheWhynaut6 жыл бұрын
As a musician it does somewhat aggravate me when people clap on 1 and 3 because clapping imitates the typical snare. Yet, I have come to appreciate the power that a well placed clap on 1 and 3 can present. It's all about knowing what to do and when, there are no absolutes in music- just what sounds good.
@iximusic3 жыл бұрын
This video inspired me to start my KZbin channel, years later. Just wanted to say thank you. This is so well done and such an enlightening subject. I remember my mind being blown. I always felt like Thom's vocal's rhythm and the drum elements that come in near the end felt really weird. I remember rushing to my drum kit and playing along to Videotape with a backbeat on the actual beats and it was like seeing this beautiful jewel from a new angle for the first time. I like listening to this song now with two different downbeats.
@candycane37392 жыл бұрын
That's really cool! I'm glad the video helped you in that way!!! For me, it helps in a different way. I know nothing about the way music actually works, music theory, and the terms used. I took music class in HS but it was a pretty poorly funded school and the class taught nothing interesting to me, but the video actually explains things easily unlike the daunting tutorials I've watched where I had no idea what they were saying. I've always dreamt of making my own songs, but never had the knowledge, skill and practice to make it happen. This video isn't revolutionary per se, but it's really helping to open up the possibilities in my head. I just love that feeling when everything clicks in music, the eye-openers that broaden your horizons and just make things seem a little more magical. Best of luck to you and your music journey!
@psychotogether5114 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel!!!
@JulioAvalos30007 жыл бұрын
You had me at Radiohead.
@mauriciolinares92957 жыл бұрын
This kind of syncopation is not so weird or complex for musicians. In my opinion this song is brilliant because syncopation goes perfectly with the emotions that the lyrics convey. The song is about someone that is about to die (or even dying in that moment) and is recording a final message. This person knows he/she is going to die and its heart is trying to catch the pulse to keep on living, the same way the piano tries to go with the rhythm, but goes "behind" it.
@yasmin_thelight67896 жыл бұрын
Mauricio Linares yesss ❤️
@phoenixdavida89876 жыл бұрын
Great. I love Radiohead but everything after 2003 I'm like not as partial to. But this is great. My boyfriend of 12 years just died out of no where (kinda) and this song is great. Your explanation is the best.
@brown96715 жыл бұрын
Yeah there was no swing or anything, this isn’t that crazy
@dalex77775 жыл бұрын
Mauricio Linares This is why I love Radiohead. I am sad for people who don’t understand their music. Radiohead is the Mozart of our day.
@squirlmy5 жыл бұрын
"trying to catch the pulse..." But doomed to never catch it. THAT'S the kicker. If the piano caught up at the end it would be a happy ending, maybe an entirely different song, a song of redemption. It is the fact that it doesn't catch up that makes me cry! Devastating!
@borp69126 жыл бұрын
I was at that Bonnaroo show!! I feel an inkling of significance now!!
@youdbettertube6 жыл бұрын
The real hero is the guy who shushes the shrieking girl at 5:40 lmao
@youdbettertube5 жыл бұрын
@@ripelivejam wat
@Dogscatsbikes5 жыл бұрын
ripelivejam incel?
@ISuckOffCops5 жыл бұрын
ripelivejam found the incel
@pre-packaged_96925 жыл бұрын
@@SamS-fq5yw Even funnier, listen closely, it's a chick doing the shushing
@farinheit2celsius4 жыл бұрын
Why wominz no gip me vagene
@TheMusehobo5 жыл бұрын
The best version of this song is neither of the versions mentioned here. It’s the solo Thom version on From the Basement.
@warrenmusic3 жыл бұрын
I mention this in my original video essay! The click track is so audible in that version...
@marinathegirl282 жыл бұрын
@@warrenmusic I watched this vox video about two years ago, and then went on to listen your Radiohead videos.... I didn't listen to them prior to that... you converted me... mind you I'm 36 yo and had a chance to listen to them this whole time.. they just where not on my radar- you put them there and I just wanted to say thanks!
@Odrox2 жыл бұрын
Listen how he starts the first chords. Very easily noticable rhythmic change.
@kalaiselvi55057 жыл бұрын
Ok, After reading few comments I see lots of people who know music or musicians themselves are not impressed. But as someone who doesn't understand the nuances of music, this was really enjoyable and interesting for me. I didn't know about syncopation or the brain waves thing and I still struggle to understand what they are talking about with the '&' and 1/4, 1/8 and 1/16. This got me interested to may be try learning about sheet music. Maybe I am their demographic lol
@RojazzBG7 жыл бұрын
So I have a degree in music and I teach music. Everything said in this video is hyper-over-complicated. And, imo, this whole thing is completely wrong - a rabbit holr of over-intellectualized music theory.
@RojazzBG7 жыл бұрын
W de Vries I doknt care that you don't care :)
@JLX57 жыл бұрын
RojazzBG thank you!! Finally someone with ears...
@abnormallynormal88237 жыл бұрын
Mr. Problematic it... it is though.....
@YTbeber7 жыл бұрын
Too bad. 2 mn with an experienced musician AND good teacher, and normally the thing is clear. (Then it needs some time to become familiar with it, ok). It has to do first with a body perception as a walker or dancer. This gives clear reference points in the rhythm. Then, it is about the way we "measure", cut (in 2? 3? 4?...) the flow of events inside those milestones (your foot stomping). Keep searching :), count, ... but have fun first. Music, like poetry, is something that looses its qualities when explained.... though you can analyse and describe some of its tricks, which can be useful but also kills something. Our brothers in India, Africa, and also Afro-Cuban music for instance, really dont care about all these mathematics, they just sing the stuff and then play it nicely.
@omarflores13296 жыл бұрын
Johnny greenwood just looks cool playing guitar. With his long hair and humbucker telecaster
@DarkAvra7 жыл бұрын
It's in Little by Little too and it's so hard to pin down in the album version
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
And "The Butcher"
@808sos77 жыл бұрын
Man it took me TWO years to figure out how to fill the drumbeat in my mind during the first half of the song!!!
@Datpleb7 жыл бұрын
it's much more evident in LBL, for sure. Didn't know about the butcher tho, lol god damn it radiohead
@JivanPal7 жыл бұрын
It emerges in a lot of tracks written by a lot of bands (heck, you can literally do it with any piece of music, and it makes for a good music exercise-trying to play a piece you know well with a different downbeat) but _Videotape_ was the last place I expected to see it.
@wgb010017 жыл бұрын
This is true. I have a very hard time hearing LBL the "right" way. I can do it for a while but I lose it. Led Zeppelin was also really good at this technique. Black Dog and Candy Store Rock both purposely hide the downbeat.
@waterglas217 жыл бұрын
It's simple, I see Radiohead I click.
@therealDannyVasquez7 жыл бұрын
You could try adding some complexity into your brain then your actions will start to follow.
@kendo58627 жыл бұрын
I also clicked... but on the off beat
@halseykale99305 жыл бұрын
ok it's a great song but "the mystery is so deep" and "this man is using 100% of his brain" is just too much to believe lol
@natjoh97864 жыл бұрын
@@ethandeister6567 if someone can do the downbeats they can do the upbeats. 1 2 3 and 4 are the eight note before the piano and the &s are an eight note after the piano, like playing swung but backwards
@boozalm37154 жыл бұрын
@@ethandeister6567 Not very hard
@wakeupmofoers6914 жыл бұрын
to me videotape was kinda basic yet its not.... idk the band is bunch of pros doing good stuff... its whats inside the songwriting... ya know make what u want of it... sounds like spiritual stuff....
@Morgsch4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. While Radiohead is one of my favorite bands and its indeed a very interessting thing to note, the video overhypes this rhythm a lot. As a songwriter i can tell you that syncopation is used so much, it would almost be more baffling to hear a song without any syncopation. I know its not the snycopation itself that makes this song special and rather the way they used it, but again: not that complex as they present it in this video. However as a music performer I can also tell you this "using 100% of his brain" might not be to far off. If you lose your inner metronome during a performance without anything to cling on rhythmically, you really gotta focus to stay in tact. So the video is true on this one imo
@june41714 жыл бұрын
fr they just made a 10 min video explaining syncopation💀. like even if it is hard for some people.. many songs have done this.
@tiesthijsthejs7 жыл бұрын
Vox can easily get away with a separate department only making these wonderful high quality analyses of Radiohead.
@kaistreetsvisuals4 жыл бұрын
7:56 It is weird that I just shed a single tear at the thought of knowing there’s somebody else out there who gets it. No one knows why I move like this when I hear this song. No one knows why Radiohead is the only music that can keep me up on a long road trip while it puts everyone else to sleep. It’s hard to explain. At least now, I can send them this.
@julezdacoolz5955 Жыл бұрын
i see, :)
@penguinwolf333011 ай бұрын
Radiohead is one of the most popular bands in the world. I don't think its that mysterious to people why you like them
@kaistreetsvisuals11 ай бұрын
@@penguinwolf3330This was a very specific post about the rhythms that most people don’t hear, even some Radiohead listeners. Maybe I need to broaden my social circle but it was very specific to why people don’t understand why I move the way I do while listening to them and how it puts everyone else to sleep on road trips.
@penguinwolf333011 ай бұрын
@@kaistreetsvisuals oh ok, fair enough. Sorry for the bother
@kaistreetsvisuals11 ай бұрын
@@penguinwolf3330 No bother at all 🙏🏽
@JT-ss6si5 жыл бұрын
He is pretty much playing the piano in between the beat. End of topic.
@stitchgrimly61674 жыл бұрын
It's played on the 4 but it sounds like the 1. We can all stop talking it now. Turns out it's no big deal.
@jordanfrancis893 жыл бұрын
Ok but saying it like that makes me think of dilla swing
@Art_Travel_and_Hobbys6 жыл бұрын
I'm a major Radiohead fan... their music catalog is nothing short of brilliant! Nice video
@flowerpunk52557 жыл бұрын
I love when Vox breaks down music
@simkaart46557 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I think these kind of syncopations don't just happen in Radiohead's music because they like it. I think it has to do with the way Thom Yorke plays the piano. Almost all songs that are piano driven (and probably written on piano) have a bit of this rhythm in them. If you listen closely to acoustic solo performances of those songs, you hear the pedal of the piano making the beat. Since it's better to release the pedal in between chords, so you don't trigger tones to ring when they shouldn't, he most likely taught himself a way of playing in which he could tap his foot for the tempo and tapped the pedal at once - creating the basis for beats that sound like this.
@nashmillh767 жыл бұрын
radiohead songs go through a metamorphosis before getting released and even after that, while they're playing it live. that's why it's always interesting for me; seems like each member is pouring their being into the record/live version.
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
Great thought... Agree 100%.
@ricktrevino3097 жыл бұрын
WARRENMUSIC Know the name of the Stevie Wonder song?
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
You'll have to ask Estelle! She's on Twitter.
@applesnapple55157 жыл бұрын
Master Blaster
@Zainyyx7 жыл бұрын
your comment reminded me of I Will (No Man's Land). when i first heard it, it instantly became my favorite. but then i heard the Los Angeles version and i was torn between which i favored the most. still am.
@uwnbaw5 жыл бұрын
Mathcore bands:* *coughs in preparation* * "Observe."
@TurtleGamers15 жыл бұрын
Playing slowly on time is harder than playing fast. And most math music is pretty fast.
@salman_38334 жыл бұрын
@@TurtleGamers1 playing fast really is much easier bcs there r no breaks, at least from my experience
@jvig73535 жыл бұрын
Trent Reznor did the same thing back in '89 with "Something I Can Never Have"
@stitchgrimly61674 жыл бұрын
But it didn't have the gasping for air feel to it that this does, by way of the syncopation.
@knightarnaud7 жыл бұрын
Can we all agree that Radiohead really is the best band in the world?
@aj15337 жыл бұрын
Like them or not, Radiohead *is* one of the most beloved bands in the world. You may disagree with their opinions but their albums are rated incredibly well and they sell millions of albums without selling out.
@ishaanthewonderboy7 жыл бұрын
This very album In Rainbows was released with a "pay what you want" system on their site without any advertising. They are probably the biggest indie band out there.
@onixxfilth7 жыл бұрын
Ajay Vishwanaath I love "Creep" and "Karma Police" was one of my faves in middle school.
@clag11097 жыл бұрын
LMAO Radiohead are not indie.
@teethgrinder837 жыл бұрын
Clag don't tell me Pablo Honey and The Bends aren't indie albums lol taken as a whole no they maybe aren't indie any more-especially after OK computer but come on,those first two albums were totally indie
@roryclague58767 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that you would say this since Radiohead were signed to a record label when you claim they were indie, and have been independent musicians since In Rainbows.
6 жыл бұрын
"That's cute" -Meshuggah
@turdferguson91904 жыл бұрын
Laughs in polyrhythm....
@aidandammermann83787 жыл бұрын
Love this series from Vox already! I found the video on warrenmusic's channel a few weeks ago and really loved it. I've never been able to describe the effect in this song, but watching these videos has helped me to learn to appreciate one of my favourite songs in a whole new way.
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
AWESOME
@HiroProtaganist7 жыл бұрын
Radiohead is amazing
@HiroProtaganist7 жыл бұрын
Damnit now I have to go listen to this album
@moesalamander70125 жыл бұрын
How was it?
@CalumCarlyle2 жыл бұрын
After seeing this video last year I actually wrote a song where the rhythm is syncopated *back* a half beat, as part of getting my head around this. Watching this again now, I’m pleased to say this is a lot easier to hear now, much more intuitive.
@absaxoclar7 жыл бұрын
I spot that cheeky atoms for peace tour poster in the background
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
Its sibling is here - instagram dot com /p/BNAs9PehPD6/
@Meandmythirdleg7 жыл бұрын
Estelle's videos are my favourite from Vox. More music content please!
@samw15014 жыл бұрын
The album version of this song is made more even complex by the gradually-drifting timing of some of the background percussion.
@nashmillh767 жыл бұрын
the fast version is not fit for closing track. Street sprite,the tourist all the way through true love waits the closing track has a lullaby like quality, like the band is saying goodbye to you.
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@guilhermedasilva17956 жыл бұрын
Wolf At The Door a pretty disturbing lullaby haha
@nikmedt7 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. Robert Schumann did this kind of thing all the time in the mid 19th century. He often established a figure that feels to imply a certain metric stress but a few lines later will reveal that you've been dancing on the wrong foot the whole time - what you thought was beat 1 was really beat 3. Examples include - First mvt of the piano concerto or the middle section of Grillen op. 12 no 4.
@fullmoonsociety7463 Жыл бұрын
How to dissapear completely is also interesting because most of the verses feel like 4/4 but the song is actually in 6/8, and sometimes that's pretty obvious in certain parts, but playing the whole song thinking of it as 6/8 is rather difficult
@Dismoeyy7 жыл бұрын
Warrenmusic
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
SAY MY NAME
@Vox7 жыл бұрын
~shouts into the void~ WARRRREENNNN -joe
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
~listens into the void~ OMG is someone saying my name across time and space? I N T E R S T E L L A R.
@Vox7 жыл бұрын
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@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
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@ricardootiniano83157 жыл бұрын
"I am a professional musician and this is not hard to play" lol guys you won't get music creds just for commenting like that
@willritter40766 жыл бұрын
I'd be honored if some Radiohead/late 90s fans would check out my acoustic piano & vocal covers of HIGH & DRY and BITTERSWEET SYMPHONY by the Verve on my channel. Live acoustic with no digital editing. Thanks and peace.out.
@alexfeliciano21516 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to be a professional to play off beats. A quick 5 minute demonstration can all you need to know about off beats. They fact the viewers are trying to make is that off beats are not something special. You learn them in 6th grade band class.
@matthewgriffin34866 жыл бұрын
@@alexfeliciano2151 in 6th grade band class you don't have 30,000 fans all clapping on the wrong beat while you're trying to play a 1/16 of a note later
@grtrukat93605 жыл бұрын
There's so many bands between the 70s and 90s that did this in various chords
@rvq95 жыл бұрын
Alex Feliciano 6th grade? Really that late????
@bossyspaghetti5 жыл бұрын
Videotape has always been my very favorite song on that album, possibly my favorite in their whole catalog...
@borjangagovski65457 жыл бұрын
I immediately knew Warren was going to be in this video when I saw the title. No one else is as obsessed with Videotape's syncopation as he is lol
@DylTyrril7 жыл бұрын
Not to be overlooked is the Thom Yorke From the Basement solo version of Videotape, a personal favourite. You can clearly see Thom working the piano's foot pedals to find his rhythm.
@mattd531211 ай бұрын
I love this song. I would say it's "buried ," or hidden as a parted rhythm perhaps that the band is hearing similar to the song's meaning of memory of a passed loved one. We don't hear the rhythm, but they do. Makes me enjoy the song even more.
@allabronskaya906910 ай бұрын
I love this perspective
@freezedream7 жыл бұрын
Radiohead - really musical geniuses - I love their musical complexities - breaking expectations, meeting expectations - that's what compelling music is all about.
@dannii_L7 жыл бұрын
This completely reinforces a) Why Radiohead are the gift that keeps on giving; and b) Why there is a special place in hell reserved for people that clap to the beat at concerts (oh, how I wish)
@fishsurfer15 жыл бұрын
Great job with these videos! These concepts are hard to explain and learn but these examples and commentary are highly helpful.
@kitsovereign41277 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite examples of this sort of rhythm recontexualizing is You Really Got Me (both The Kinks and Van Halen versions). When you hear the guitar riff on its own for the first time, you'll probably hear it as "1 & 2 & 3" - but when the drums kick in, you'll hear it as "& 1 & 2 &."
@Darel137127 жыл бұрын
It's impossible for me to think of it as & 1. It's clearly coming before the beat...
@oolonsioo38537 жыл бұрын
VOX I LOVE YOU , TY for covering such an amazing band like Radiohead
@arinetic55387 жыл бұрын
Ive watched this video multiple times now, and when i watch this video, what's being said and what the band says makes sense that the piano is syncopated. But every single time I listen to Videotape after watching this, i try to follow what this video says the downbeat is, and i completely fail every single time. I can do it while playing it on my own, but listening to the studio version just doesnt make sense. Every musical instinct of mine leads me to believe that it's the drums that are syncopated, not the piano. If they're still playing it with the piano being on the offbeat, they are overcomplicating it for themselves.
@Misterseb25 жыл бұрын
I also think you are right. I completely get what the video is trying to say, but there really is no evidence to suggest that the piano is on the offbeat other than Yorke struggling in that one video. On the other hand, the bonnaroo clip they showed at 7:59 actually has Colin nodding his head as if the piano was on the downbeat (making the drums offbeat). Maybe he's just nodding his head "wrong" intentionally though, because that's easier for him. Idk.
@warrenmusic2 жыл бұрын
Check out my superimposed version where I give a drumbeat to count in before the piano. It’s on my SoundCloud
@rooftopsignals73137 жыл бұрын
OK COMPUTER is amazing, but IN RAINBOWS is my favorite.
@reydiyohed7 жыл бұрын
wow, vox covering this is actually really surprising
@1213chioАй бұрын
this series is so wonderful .. i hope there'll be more ..
@FEvan12347 жыл бұрын
one word. subdivision.
@nytro80277 жыл бұрын
Evan Ferioli RIGHT
@chrishavill64587 жыл бұрын
Evan Ferioli IN THE HIGH SCHOOL HALLS
@Synequanon7 жыл бұрын
In the shopping malls. Conform or be cast out[...]
@cstubbssubs77467 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@housesinmotion60317 жыл бұрын
surprise rush reference just out of nowhere good job guys
@fygarOnTheRun6 жыл бұрын
over-analysis overload to the max!
@beejay8332 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel.. SO GREAT!
@bloodySunday777 жыл бұрын
On one hand it's a great video about something that goes unnoticed (at least to the uneducated ear of a simple music listener & fan). On the other hand, sometimes it feels like it's dragging too long on explaining a rather simple thing over and over - especially when you consider INFINITELY more complex and irregular rhythms in, for example, styles from progressive rock to some ethnic to jazz etc.
@scurrytom6 жыл бұрын
bloodySunday77 Yeah, my take as an avid listener, but not a musician is, it's great he struggled with that and figured out something cool. But jazz musicians do equally hard/ complex things all the time. I wouldn't call him revolutionary, there are jazz musicians practicing harder stuff day in day out. Cool yes, revolutionary, no... but that's just me
@catalinsalcieanu46406 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand this simple concept at all...
@mac-n-sneeze6 жыл бұрын
bloodySunday77 they gotta get that add revenue some how
@klaxoncow6 жыл бұрын
Well, yeah, it drags on just to reach the 10 minute mark. Notice how it's just 14 seconds longer than 10 minutes. They padded it out to just make it over the 10 minute line and then stopped. Why 10 minutes? Because that's where KZbin draws the line on running ads for a video. Bottom line: They want their ad money.
@julianuary7 жыл бұрын
As a slightly pedantic RH fan (haha) I have to correct something. The date of that London show was January 16, 2008, not September 29. They were ready to tour Japan by that point.
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
There's the detective!
@julianuary7 жыл бұрын
You know it! ;)
@L1ttleM1crosoft Жыл бұрын
Been subscribed to Warren for years now. Even saw him at the Berkeley show! Hahaha didnt get a chance to meet him but hes taught me pretty much every RH song i know on guitar.
@JasonRennie7 жыл бұрын
They need to do a video on King Crimson
@tyro3346 жыл бұрын
Nicu nicu
@gravygravyjosh7 жыл бұрын
some people not really getting this. The difficult thing that makes this so interesting is they're playing the syncopated beat without anything on 1 to place it. When you listen on the record it sounds like normal 4, but then they start to build it and fill it out so that it feels polyrhythmic, but they were actually playing along to this "phantom beat" all along. Very cool
@StillGamingTM3 жыл бұрын
This song has been fascinating and eluding me for YEARS. I know nothing about music so when your explanation came out I was just so happy, I felt sort of validated
@klamin_original7 жыл бұрын
Playing right after a beat (or hi hat) is easy, because you have something you can focus on. But playing without an existing downbeat is hard
@lamaziagoo7 жыл бұрын
i don't understand anything but loved the video because its my fav song of radiohead
@aislingomalley7 жыл бұрын
your nerdy enthusiasm for the minutiae of music is inspiring.
@DudeWhoSkates697 жыл бұрын
I just like how Radiohead makes music that you don't have to be a musical genius to understand them. Like it's some elitist club. The average everyday person can relate to the lyrics of Videotape which I am sure Thom Yorke had that feeling and expressed it musically then maybe this happy accident happened. We've all felt like how Radiohead's music expresses at one point or another. At the end of the day, just enjoy the music. It's just a nice little musical Easter egg. Fun fact, Thom Yorke doesn't know how to read or write music.
@factsoverfeelies6 жыл бұрын
The crowd clapping (conforming) to the wrong beat while the band following the true beat fits perfectly to their isolationist and lonely identity.
@teeceedee3 жыл бұрын
as a drummer its so simple to interpret but i imagine people are like what
@Paulie-Wallie7 жыл бұрын
you guys have to give props to @warrenmusic for this
@densmaish55867 жыл бұрын
A lot of modern and traditional African music has syncopation at its heart. I recall my music professor alluding to the beginnings of syncopation in the continent.
@scottdunning57236 жыл бұрын
It's true, people look at me like I'm crazy when I start bouncing around to the beat of this song like a maniac. To them it's slow, it's melodic, and solemn. If you don't know what you're listening to, if you don't know what the beat is, you'll just think of the drums as background and the piano as the down beat. But every time I hear it, it electrifies me. The syncopation makes me feel every eighth note as if it were a quarter note. I FEEL this song at twice the speed everyone around me does. Paired with that slow solemn piano is just an amazing contrast.
@fadlinugraha3477 жыл бұрын
My boy Lain!
@mufasa01386 жыл бұрын
Videotape sounds a little bit similar to “Not Yet Remembered” by Brian Eno
@abraxapaxa99304 жыл бұрын
no that observed incorrect mufasa ,lol but they would likely take that as a complement
@uhkingdom6 ай бұрын
Videotape is one of the greatest songs I’ve ever heard in my life. Not just a favorite, which it is for me, but I think it deserves to have greatness applied to it. It is a very specific sound, it’s beautiful and haunting and uplifting and dark and wholly its own all in equal measure in a way I’ve not heard a song be before.
@JxqGames5 жыл бұрын
We’ll still be discovering new things about Radiohead’s music 20 years from now
@julcaos6 жыл бұрын
Everyting in this was just brilliant... song, video, editing, research... great job guys!
@joesonx6 жыл бұрын
dear estelle, this and the rhyming in rap episode is something i can watch over and over again. thank you for that!
@mgoogs7 жыл бұрын
This is like explaining why a joke is funny.
@abrahamsimons92836 жыл бұрын
Using 100% of his mental energy? Jajajaa is he levitating or what? 😂😂😂
@boozalm37156 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAH YESSS!!!
@MatSmithLondon5 жыл бұрын
@@boozalm3715 agree.
@pocojoyo5 жыл бұрын
lol
@milhouse7774 жыл бұрын
Why would you expect someone to levitate when focus 100% of his energy on an activity like play and sing at the same time?
@NoahJuan Жыл бұрын
I think this hidden element is also reflected in the lyrics when they mention red blue green which are the hidden colours that make up a video image?
@FutureVintageXO7 жыл бұрын
If as a musician you don't care for Radiohead that's fine. However In Rainbows is definitely in my opinion the best album of the last decade at least. Subtly in genius ideas is what makes something special. Nuances and space. Ina world that is increasingly hard to impress listeners, to come by an anomaly naturally to me is something to relish. If you disagree then I challenge you to make a record that does exactly this. But being a hater is still the lowest form of flattery.
@CocaCoala5 жыл бұрын
Long story short: Song contains a syncopation, which means that there is an eighth note rest on every beat, after which the piano chord is being played.
@samuelmather2469Ай бұрын
couldn't this be a three minute video
@ohrightthatswhy7 жыл бұрын
I was about to say "way to rip off Warren vox" then I saw who was in the video!
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
LOL I think would still be pretty happy though. More people need to talk about the fact that syncopation can intentionally be buried.
@ohrightthatswhy7 жыл бұрын
+WARRENMUSIC totally! I'm sat here like a mug trying to clap along properly. Insanely clever that you found it, and also a total credit to the genius of Radiohead.
@HorribleSonofa7 жыл бұрын
WARRENMUSIC - How long did it take you to figure out the BPM?
@warrenmusic7 жыл бұрын
It was tricky. Maybe half an hour? I dropped it into Ableton, sequenced a simple four on the floor beat, and kept playing around with the global tempo until it matched up. I remember sliding back and forth between 154 and 155 and it driving me insane. Then I decided to try 154.5. Then 154.9. Then 154.6. Then 154.8. And 154.7. And 154.75. And then adjusting around back and forth in this kind of educated guessing way.
@danielmgalhaes7 жыл бұрын
I said wait have I just spotted a plagiarism? Glad I spoke too fast
@zathomas7 жыл бұрын
Exquisite. Now can you tell us how to count Pyramid Song?
@melew257 жыл бұрын
3-2-3-3-2-3
@tylerufen5 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating! Would produce another season!
@ghostfires7 жыл бұрын
They didn't hide the beat, it comes in in the latter half of the song FFS!