Fact Checking RFK Jr on All In Podcast | I break it down

Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Professor
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[@laurenpaer252]

Invite RFK on to debate the childhood vaccine schedule!!! Or even better, a series of debates on the whole schedule and the individual vaccines (or some of the ). Give each other the papers you’ll be citing ahead of time, so they can go through them. That would be such a great service!

[@tdcaudio]

That would be great. You can’t ignore the studies that don’t support you point when someone is there to defend them. Vinay was on Dr Drew with Dr Kelly Victory and he refused to consider any of her valid points though, he is a little narcissistic

[@zacboyles1396]

@@tdcaudio I just heard him say the toxic placebo is no big deal because if something was there we would have easily been able to spot the safety signals! Correct me if I’m wrong but those safety signals, even if they were the worst in history, would pale in comparison to the lighthouse-earthquake-monumentally explosive signals occurring this very instant, right?! I mean somehow ‘public health’ figures around the globe are missing 100x the signals and this is right out in the open. How on earth does he think a safety signal a fraction of that would be caught and doubly so, during a period when the vast majority of the public, like myself, thought there were intelligent and thoughtful people running things

[@jollygreen63]

Great suggestion!!

[@441kingstonrd.2]

@@gretchenk.2516 Secretary of Health is not an elected position...

[@TheRealHempress]

RFK would clean his clock kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5fRe5xtrrF-nac

[@kathybrady4033]

Very telling that our govt with billions of $$$ never did RCTs on early treatment with moderate dosing. The I and H studies were bunk.

[@pathacker4963]

Almost as though they didn’t care about treating anyone.

[@RedXlV]

No, the claims that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are COVID treatments are what were bunk.

[@scroopynooperz9051]

@@pathacker4963 lol the idea is to get rid of some excess - not to actually help. notice how they're pushing "demand destruction" from an economics standpoint? people should do some research into what that actually means lol Also notice how we are on the cusp of mastering artificial general intelligence (like a future, refined chatGPT) synchronized with dexterous, nimble movement robotics (see Boston Dynamics). Soon large swathes of the population will essentially be made redundant. Rather than having all those folks unhappy and disgruntled, probably a good idea to start a pre-emptive culling lol

[@martinm6368]

I loved those large planned RTCs, which struggled to find subjects for years, couldn't source I or dropped I arms for other reasons.

[@johnc206]

Vinay, the difference between the meta-analyses of early treatments and those of masking is that, as you have pointed out, nobody has a financial interest in skewing the results of a masking trial to show a lack of effect. You ask, "Who is out there shorting masks?" And that's a good point. With regard to the early treatments, there was (still is) *massive* financial motivation to get people to believe they were ineffective. I don't know the precise figures for the various companies for the various years, but easily *dozens* of billions of dollars were made in the trade in EUA-sanctioned treatments, which would have been off the table if early treatments were accepted as effective. So the meta-analyses of early treatments were largely based on studies with a *huge* potential for bias individually. Alexandros Marinos does a public peer review of the TOGETHER trial (which made NYT headlines months before its results were published, for some odd reason), and it (Marinos' review) lays out, in a series of a couple dozen installments, the many ways in which that trial was flawed and unconvincing, if not outright fraudulent. I believe human beings are corruptible, that scientists, as human beings, are corruptible, and that with that many billions of dollars at stake, the potential for corruption is very real. If all the studies analyzed are biased in the same direction, it's no surprise if the meta-analysis is also.

[@ClarkBeattie14]

Why masking? Social engineering. That was an excellent opportunity to see how fast people got in line.

[@Ashley-hv1qu]

💯

[@bernadettesandoval3990]

His main point about vaccines is the liability waiver for manufacturers. We need to eliminate that.

[@andreinedelcu5330]

I am surprised Vinay did not catch that.

[@rahulbalakrishnan8760]

And especially that FDA is not *actually* regulating the big pharma vaccines in trials and is helping coverup the side effects.

[@andrelevesque2212]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaeYco2pmrOVgrM

[@gracelynne3918]

It's a US law that affects only US victims. Australians, for example, can in fact sue the mfrs...and let's watch to see if they do.

[@nutritiousyogi]

agreed. it also seems like his main complaint was that BK wasn't specific enough but that's easy to fix. Just have him on your show!

[@jacquieloller8504]

Vinay, I trust you & wish you’d go deeper on the vaccine schedule bc I think he made some good points. If the “placebo” vaccine contains an adjuvant like aluminum, and the aluminum toxicity slowly causes the immune system to spiral and turn to autoimmunity… then how do they tell the difference between the placebo and real vaccine if they both have aluminum? The immune system is complex so it’s not like an autoimmune condition shows up the day after vaccination, it could take time to build. But the childhood schedule is really, really full! Much more than when we were kids. And I’ve yet to find a study that actually looks at how we get aluminum out of our body when it’s Injected into muscle tissue. Your friend Paul Offit just says things like “there’s more aluminum in our food. There’s more aluminum in breast milk!” But that’s sooooooo misleading because when it’s digested the liver and kidneys filter out 99% of aluminum. There’s really only been one study done in intervenes aluminum solution and the amounts in vaccination go wayyyy over what was determined in that study. So how do we know it isn’t causing immune system disruption? Where is the aluminum going and why are so few people concerned when there are sooo many sick children these days? I can’t seem to find a balanced answer to this.

[@beckyjohnson5057]

Chelating heavy metals (including Aluminum in this context) is not easy. But it can be done. Prevention is best.

[@oldschool8292]

Excellent points.

[@GCM101]

I absolutely love your points, I hope you get an answer!

[@dandeeteeyem2170]

I wish he would overcome his cognitive dissonance too.. He's better than this..

[@jbperez808]

NCVIA 1986 creating a protected product class where manufacturers can't be sued and taxpayer ends up shouldering liability is a huge perverse incentive. How do we expect pharmaceutical corporations to act with such incentives? They've moved heaven and earth and spent tons of money and resources on propaganda to convince us to take those products.

[@the_lightnessofbeing]

If you've been alive the past 60 years (1989) you clearly know what RFK,Jr is sharing about chronic disease in our country is true. No mention of our immune systems in this podcast, but then medical training in US was dictated by wealthy families (Rockefeller, Carnegie) invested in pharmaceuticals, investing in universities.

[@sierragreen]

What's more important than whether Ivermectin and HCQ were effective was giving people the freedom to make their own decisions about prevention and treatment, including having the right to access these alternatives.

[@stoneagedjp]

Exactly.

[@matsv201]

Ivermectin was actually quite effective. The meta analyses Vinay is referring to was cherypicked. If we check all studies its quite clear that a select few is very negative, a other select few are quite neutral, while the dominating majority is quite positive. For HCQ we see a similar situation but the level of effectiveness is a bit lower. Zink and Vitamin D clearly works as well. The effect is not huge, but significant. Vitamin C have even a bit lesser effect, but again the effect is not negligible. Most, if not all of those effect, can be stacked, and there is when you get a significant outcome. Fun fact, Cannabidol have been done 7 studies so far, with all over negative effect.

[@441kingstonrd.2]

@@storkstorm6925 what are said inordinate risks (inordinate being a subjective term subject to a risk:benefit ratio analysis)?

[@colingryms3373]

I would like him to discuss the studies (that he is referring to) to dismiss HCQ that used a toxic dose in the trials. The WHO (1979 I think) commissioned a study to define a toxic dose of HCQ and found it was between 1500mg to 2000mg in 24 hours. The studies used a minimum of 2000mg. I would be interested in Vinay's opinion on why they selected such a high dose (a toxic dose actually) in the HCQ studies.

[@runderwo]

Let's recall that the FDA's ban on using HCQ in treating C19 is based on a completely fraudulent study that was quickly discovered and retracted. FDA was quick to pounce when the "study" hit global headlines, yet never even bothered to review its stance after the retraction.

[@fiapop]

Vinay.... invite RFK jr on your podcast. I'm sure it'll be a huge hit, and you can challenge him directly and have a debate on the issue. I think it would be quite informative. His debate against Dershowitz was a hit.

[@arialevitas3315]

Agree.. have him on your show.

[@The...0_0...]

Yes

[@heregoes8839]

He'll never do that. Vijay doesn't wanna get humiliated in front of his own subscribers

[@carreromartialarts]

Vinay is not that important

[@fabianspieker5027]

Lol Vinay can't win that. He can only Talk shit in this case.

[@ellenh6796]

During the first lockdown in New Zealand in April 2020, all swimming was prohibited. It was bizarre. Anyone who went into the water risked getting arrested. The police were patrolling the beaches. That was when I first realized that something very strange indeed was going on

[@blakerobinson8370]

they heighten the fear, hence you had community checkpoints run by locals. "look at those bloody Aucklanders leaving, they could be spreading it, they better not be coming to my town". some excused it, as, well if you get in trouble they dont want to have to be exposed since social distancing...the same argument was for school like school isn't already a cesspool of potential illness, and first responders get exposed to all kinds of sickness. so you can see how they made this "different".

[@elizabethgrant9833]

yeah that whole piece is definitely a "WTH?!" thing!! Have people completely lost their minds

[@waynetables6414]

You start with the false premise that RFK has a problem with ALL vaccines and then say he wasn't affective in persuading the audience that ALL vaccines are ineffective. That's not what his claim is and that's not what he was even attempting to do.. he is narrowly focused on a number of specific vaccines and I suggest you look more into what his actual thesis is rather than taking at face value what the mainstream media portrays his position to be

[@KarmaKulture1]

yes Robert has always said he wants vaccines to have proper testing and liability like any other drug he has never said hes anti vax

[@GregKingston]

The "antivaxx" smear is the only thing they have on him. It will only work for so long.

[@justsomenobody889]

Kind of like Prasad has a high bar for proving efficacy, RFK has a high bar for proving safety, and I think that’s totally fair seeing how your injecting these things into otherwise healthy people

[@johnc206]

It's argument from mischaracterization.

[@michelerooney5907]

@@justsomenobody889 well said and excellent point.

[@burtnation1357]

I like how u mention pharma ads only 2 country’s in the world allow there ads and were one of them. Banning ads would make media more critical and end there lobbying in congress would make strides I believe

[@asj888]

Wow

[@Mister_Holdsworth]

Banning ads won't have that affect. We in Australia don't allow them but we do follow the United States advice as dictated by Bill & Melinda Gates foundation's so called scientists. They paid the media to be complicit rather than critical of all the human rights abuses.

[@michaelgonzalez619]

I Don't think it would sadly as the stakeholders of media and pharma are already the same.

[@jefreybarnes5457]

That is a very naive comment.

[@MelKateH]

In Australia we don't have pharma advertising however we are the top country with pharma funding to our government regulatory on medicines. Unfortunately, it seems they still find a way.

[@kmp654]

Ivermectin were used widely across India and Japan too, very successfully. In India there's data from CNC one of the most respected medical instruments in India

[@gribbler1695]

Ref: Evaluation of Ivermectin as a Potential Treatment for Mild to Moderate COVID-19: A Double-Blind Randomized Placebo Controlled Trial in Eastern India ( J Pharm Pharm Sci. 2021) 'Inclusion of ivermectin in treatment regimen of mild to moderate COVID-19 patients could not be said with certainty based on our study results as it had shown only marginal benefit in successful discharge from the hospital with no other observed benefits.'

[@LuBaLu]

@@gribbler1695 who funded that study? How did they reach this conclusion?

[@ManGrieves]

@@gribbler1695 I just did a quick google search on Nigeria, they use(these numbers might be somewhat off) ivermectin as part of their fight against malaria and other deseases. Something like 30% of their population uses Ivermectin, yet they have much lower vaccination rates while having a COVID death rate of around 2 times lower than that of the US. It's not conclusive as there's other factors of course, but it is interesting.

[@presence5426]

@@gribbler1695 Good. So few actually READ the dam studies.

[@debbiejaynes2652]

The easons why Bobby is censored, smeared and despised revolves around the fact that he is correct about the vaccine schedule.

[@juststeve7665]

the reason is that he's not toeing the official party line. He's a divisive threat and they will do whatever it takes to de-legitimize and neutralize him.

[@GregKingston]

@@juststeve7665 He is diverging from nearly every position that the dems are taking. A "Kennedy Democrat" looks right wing compared to where they are on most issues right now. His appeal to common sense is refreshing.

[@justsomenobody889]

I knew the vaccine schedule was getting screwy when they told me they wanted to vaccinate my newborn against a sexually transmitted virus that I had tested negative for

[@nadogrl]

@@GregKingston - Which begs the question, why is he still a Democrat?

[@staceycolangelo8940]

I thought they censored him because the *BERLIN WALL FELL DOWN*

[@kathybrady4033]

I believe India distributed millions of boxes of big D and hydroxy early in the pandemic. What were their results? You could compare states in India that did and did not so that.

[@hollyambrose229]

Everyone got it and It was gone in a month

[@ADV-Rider-Dude]

Yip. I know that is true because I got heaps of the same packs that the Indian government dished out. There were a few countries where the gov handed out IVM but it was kept very quiet in western countries. Also the countries where these drugs are commonplace seem to have done way better than Western countries without vaccines and other mandates

[@luceroa3313]

México too.

[@KarensOpinionsMayDiffer]

@@luceroa3313 someone told me they were handing Ivermectin out at the airport in Mexico.

[@RedXlV]

Your believe if wrong. India did nothing of the sort.

[@gusteaubus7573]

Vinay just got fact checked by comedian Jimmy Dore 😂 it’s good! Jimmy has a hard time ignoring BS.

[@morkenane1151]

Wait where is this clip? I follow Jimmy’s Channel on KZbin and didn’t see it

[@gusteaubus7573]

@@morkenane1151 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqWafoeij72MeNk

[@rebelseer3691]

​@@morkenane1151- It's titled Garbage "Fact Check" of RFK Jr debunked.

[@karenkaren3189]

We live in a sad time when comedians and lawyers are trusted more than medical doctors. I think Prasad contributed to this phenomena. I blame him and people like him for stoking the flames of cynicism and mistrust

[@williamwest9204]

​@@karenkaren3189 the trust was broken in the medical industry and government slowly over the last 50 years, covid was the straw that broke the camels back

[@roblovegreen]

Doc, you are a truth seeker. And you are fair and honest. Please interview RFK Jr. so you can ask him the hard questions and get his answers in regards to vaccines.

[@joyduncan9434]

Yes,we need that and I would hope that RFK Jr would do it.

[@antd8667]

That will b the real test if he has not sold out

[@johnc206]

It would be interesting to see if Vinay's channel were struck for interviewing RFK, Jr. Vinay may know the score at YT and be reluctant for that reason.

[@grahamz2496]

​@@joyduncan9434he will do it in a heartbeat. He has not been proven wrong. Very disappointed in this podcast by vinay, as this was not at all proving RFK wrong.

[@bobbyologun1517]

read his idiotic book the real fauci, he makes outrageous claim after claim and never both provide evidence.

[@polarxta2833]

RFK Jr's advocacy on behalf of children is exceptional. His work around exposing Fauchi on Aids, and then Covid is superb. He is head and shoulders better than any other candidate.

[@juststeve7665]

Well..... he's far better than Biden/Harris anyway

[@antd8667]

Any one who red the book the real mr fouchie nos what is going on vinay is so rong

[@staceycolangelo8940]

And he didn't knock down the Berlin Wall

[@kylequest]

RFK Jr's a loon who spreads lies and conspiracy. He's only running to hurt Democrats and help the wealthy Oligarchs.

[@deadreckoning6288]

Spot on 👍

[@michaeljcross87]

Thanks for this. You havr convinced me that RFK is the candidate that I will support 100%. My colleagues and I have listen to your comments and we're voting Kennedy.

[@philosophyze]

Dude, you were so wrong at the beginning of the Wuhan virus and early treatment. I remember seeing you on ZDogg's channel and you were so off. Z didn't get it (and for all I know) still is arrogant and clueless. You've wisened up which is commendable. Watching the Dark Horse podcast really educated me on the weaknesses of taking both peer review and RCT studies without a healthy suspicion of the reviewers/designers/testers/tests/conclusions. We need a massive reform in tbe academic and scientific community before they are worthy of our trust and respect.

[@oldschool8292]

Exactly.

[@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql]

Correct!

[@truthfuljoe]

You're right to give him some credit, at least he can flip flop when it suits his agenda (getting attention on social media). He's a step above the mentally broken & deranged lefties who have kept doubling down the entire time.

[@michellebrown5594]

100%.

[@nenadjovanovic4780]

You’re right. He was soooo wrong. He only makes decision on randomized trials. You dont need a randomized trial to not eat poison mushrooms in a forest if 10 people in front of you die eating them. Vinaj is solid but wrong sometimes

[@vegask2]

He wrote a book that included citations to support his claims about Covid. Why didn't you refer to those citations?

[@joeboy1884]

Cause his citations were trash if you actually look at them

[@rosezingleman5007]

@@joeboy1884There are hundreds and hundreds. They’re all bad? I think you haven’t looked at it.

[@Lo0320]

My thought exactly.

[@CH-fp6gj]

He has had no legal cases brought against him for his claims. No defamation or anything. The guy knows his stuff

[@philosophyze]

​@@rosezingleman5007 Plus, he's a successful attorney. He'd be an idiot to not have documentation. He'd be sued for libel. Granted. I'm not planning on voting Dem just for RFK and this one issue. I don't think he's truly ready to believe that the party he grew up with is gone. If it was ever what he believed it was.

[@the_working_actor]

Man this is one of the worst ratios I’ve seen. It’s clear you’ve cultivated an incredibly intelligent community. Hopefully you do a follow up and speak to some of the concerns they are raising and get him to come on to your show.

[@merfymac]

RFK Jr is last chance saloon for the United States. If you think he’s got the wrong policy on something medical, contact the guy. Lend your expertise and clarity of thought.

[@shsummers]

...and be sure to bring receipts, Dr. P., because he's spent decades reading all the studies, and you haven't. You just did a segment on how it's impossible to keep up with the huge volume of studies published.

[@S3raphicReaper]

@@shsummers I looked into RFK's statements about the 2000 Simpsonwood Retreat's concerns on thimerosal. While RFK ended up making some inflated points, I think the base issues of concerns held some validity. Finding out that we still incorporate a form of mercury in some vaccines blew my mind. (To stifle down the immediate alarm raisers, the original mercury used and was of concern was methylmercury; the thimersol/mercury ones today seem to use ethylmercury.) I'm also interested in someone examining with a proper approach to the statistics of relevance for the CDC child-scheduled vaccines for risk benefit. We give about 25-32 shots to kids in their earliest years of development, with an overall average of severe adverse events/effects being ~0.1%+ per vaccine, equating to a ~2.5-3.2% severe AE by the end of the schedule.

[@fiapop]

@@shsummers 100%

[@merfymac]

@@S3raphicReaper also, compare RFK’s level of research and intelligent analysis to the likes of Biden or Trump … America needs less crazy morons in the White House

[@dandeeteeyem2170]

Absolutely this. He's someone who could actually restore my faith in democracy, and bring America back in line with the values they claim to represent. He's the real "great reset". He'd actually "drain the swamp". He could restore what was stolen from America when his uncle and father were assassinated.

[@goldenviolet4298]

Please do more research on ivm, the mechanism - i gave it to 75 people in beginning 60s to mid 80s, all noticed they felt better- no long covid, no hospitals, product works

[@jonnynice8366]

Vinay is a limited hangout, his purpose is to obscure the important stuff. He'll expose the lies in the narrative that are relatively harmless to pharma profits and he'll dismiss the facts that would really hit pharma where it hurts if they became common knowledge.

[@TheRealHempress]

@@jonnynice8366 excellent analysis

[@antd8667]

Along with the Paducah india study where ivermectin was give to 250 million people

[@STEM_RC]

Healed my long covid

[@LaJoBa1]

Was feeling better in 2 days with the Ivermectin.

[@areyousur3]

Your studio is looking great bro, that big Pharma money really going far 👏👏

[@DOLEWDREW]

Big pHARMa.

[@buryyourdraws]

The biggest point of confusion for me in all the points you lay out here is, if IVM in particular is so useless in this context, why are a bunch of top physicians continuing to advocate for it? Obviously there's no money to be made from the drug itself, is there some entity that is incentivizing doctors to push IVM? I've learned the very harsh lesson over the last few years that following the money trail will inevitably lead you to the ugly truth, but there doesn't seem to be a profit to be made here? These are honest questions, my mind is not made up, I appreciate all the work I've seen done on this channel 🙏

[@antd8667]

If vanay looked at the FLCCC protocols then what

[@barne3668]

I watched Ivermectin first hand kill the symptoms in a matter of 48 hours. IT WORKS!!!

[@alan2102X]

Vinay is mostly a good guy, but he plays things smart and pushes the envelope only as far as he can without getting into serious trouble -- serious like losing his job and being blacklisted forever. If he took a fully honest look at ivermectin, that would be pushing the envelope too far.

[@patricianab6546]

I agree with you. I have followed the FLCCC and I believe them over Dr Prasad. They go over all the studies and it’s very compelling.

[@AquaponicDave]

If ANYTHING worked against covid the EUA could not be granted. THAT is why they blocked IVM, HCQ and vitamin D info. Without the EUA the whole scheme would collapse.

[@almatta3351]

Invite RFK and have a real conversation about all of this. He's definitely someone that won't avoid you and will go out of his way to have the conversation with you instead of running away like pretty much everyone else on these contentious issues. Go the extra mile, for the sake of integrity and the collective good. We the people are tired of echo chambers. 🙏

[@xpaderom2]

Well said

[@heynow01]

You can see a similar situation with Dr Drew, except Dr Drew actually has smart people on his show and just disagrees with their information and opinions and still tells his patients to follow CDC protocols.

[@aralsea1]

They'll just remove the video if it's anti covid.

[@rickchristie99]

Drew is a stooge, pigeon, and a peasant.

[@koolkatklan3414]

Agreed

[@mills1540]

I've read all his books. It's all sourced and fact checked. He's honest and I can't wait to vote for him.

[@tonyclif1]

@mills1540 um, have you fact checked "vaccines cause autism"? The study that claimed this was withdrawn as a fraudulent study! Show me the source for his claim that "Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people"? He later claimed he didn't say this, but these are HIS words, directly from the video of him saying it! There are many more examples... BUT you have to actually read them to know this. Honest? His own sister says what he says in certain areas is untrue. He also makes claims about vaccine ingredients - he rang a vaccine expert to clarify, then the following week ignored what he had been told. An outright charlatan, and a disgrace to his family name!

[@kevinscott9745]

It's all bad information. He doesn't even understand what he's talking about.

[@juneelle370]

And since he’s a truth-seeker, he’d be open to consider other arguments (example his arguments on ivermectin.) You’re right, he would go on his show. Wonder if he’ll invite him and if not why, as you said.

[@tonyclif1]

@@juneelle370 truth seeker? You mean like the time Kennedy contacted Dr Paul Offit, was given info about vaccines, and then ignored it? It sounds like YOU have positive thoughts on Ivermectin, despite what the science says? Then you want Kennedy to confirm your misinformation, even though Kennedy is a lawyer, not a scientist 😞

[@jadapinkett1656]

​@@kevinscott9745 Keep drinking that propaganda.

[@Lo0320]

Review RFK JR - lastest book on Fartci. And circle back. Would love your take on him them.

[@geoffreydahl6843]

Yep rfk jr needs to be heard...all his talking points..all he wants is the discussion...he has his evidence and court cases going on..he knows his data..and as he says...prove him wrong and he will change hia view

[@AquaponicDave]

I love the comments on the debate he did with Dershowitz a few years ago. RFK won hands down. There's a reason why they refuse to engage the man.

[@FreeSpeechWilderness]

I'm a huge fan of Vinay and even pay to subscribe to his Substack...but this was poorly done. Fact checking would be having RFK Jr on your show to debate in real time, in good faith. Please do it.

[@kg356]

You don't need to do a live debate to argue against a claim. I'm not saying he shouldn't speak with him or anyone but the idea that that's the only way to disagree in good faith is ridiculous.

[@hollyambrose229]

The level of insanity surrounding this pandemic is fascinating

[@rocketpig1914]

maybe this level of nonsense always went on in health. it's just that before they didn't drag the rest of the world into the bunfight

[@hollyambrose229]

Rather likely .. and it’s becoming more apparent so get ready for the next chapter

[@truthfuljoe]

It's been very illuminating in regards to the effect of fear & propaganda on the West. Most parents I know vaxxed their kids with this rushed , experimental gene therapy! I never would have guessed it could get this bad. Never could have imagined the power of Mass Formation Psychosis. Truly awe inspiring yet also terrifying.

[@stanweaver6116]

Yes, fascinating almost mesmerizing, I just would love to turn away and unsee every insanity performed, but that would be stupid.

[@Monkey-fc9nc]

​@Joe T Well, I am one of those parents that did NOT vaccinate my children! And I'm not an antivaxxer. That being said after these covid vaccines I'm more hesitant giving any vaccine to them.

[@frankrizzo2025]

Vinay, instead of fact checking RFK, Jr. why don't you offer him your services as an advisor? Also, how does one go about finding the RCTs that demonstrate a reduction in all cause mortality for vaccines on the CDC's childhood schedule.

[@beckyjohnson5057]

Oh, boy!

[@Soundsaboutright42]

Bazinga

[@shsummers]

Those studies don't exist.

[@tdcaudio]

I’m curious how he decides on which studies to consider when doing meta analysis of hcq and ivm, I don’t hear him discount any of the specific studies that disagree with his opinions…which studies? You can’t just say” I did my own met study”

[@staceyforehand9513]

Cause china pays way bettet allegedly

[@pormantu]

Vinay Prasad exposed! Returning to true form: smearing experts! First, Robert Malone now RFK Jr. We haven’t forgotten!

[@losdominoman7907]

So strange, I've seen credible doctors say the exact opposite about the meta analysis regarding ivermectin

[@lemoynecastle6213]

I think this is the choice of measurables on which conclusions are made. I too have heard voices I trust say that the meta-analysis review chose the end points that met their foregone conclusion and ignored the others that showed that Ivor worked.

[@fightfamilybuffalo]

Also, they are not pooled of all the trials of Ivermectin and HCQ as he said. They are selected, and often not selected for WHEN the drugs were started and what the dosage was. In the studies many were started after the patients were on ventilators already, or given ridiculous doses. Also several of the studies were fraudulent and with suspicious funding (FTX, Bill Gates, etc).

[@rdbt292]

Concerned about our 81-yr-old mother allergic to Everything & had health issues, we siblings (engineer, lawyer, scientist, teacher) explored all the info we could find about the jabs. The more we looked, the more we knew to avoid them. We took her to multiple big events in 2021 (memorial services, weddings, family gatherings, overseas trips to UK, the Middle East, Egypt, etc.) We just kept her on C, D, & iVM.

[@doremi9]

Especially those with significant personal experience using it for their patients.

[@paulhansen5053]

Bobby already has the best team of fact-checkers and certainly doesn't need these half-baked claims. Just read his book (black cover, white letters) that has 2200 references to solid evidence.

[@jmc8076]

If he wants the change he says then he needs to hold himself to same level of independent review as the pharma industry. If not we risk allowing the same two rule system: one for wealthy privileged and one for others. Vatican, royals, politicians etc have teams of researchers. Knowing the facts doesn’t equate to honesty or integrity. His wife didn’t seem to share his views for a party they held last year. He defended her view after their special invitation request leaked out.

[@bristlefist]

@@jmc8076 Is your criticism that his wife has different views from him? Somewhat confusing comment

[@antd8667]

Vinay is the one half baked

[@paulhansen5053]

@@antd8667 Sorry, that's what I meant, Vinay's half-baked claims

[@Breezieone]

​@JK-srsly"Dumb actor opinion"? I swear it's comments like yours that are problematic in our community. I say "our" community because I have been "anti-vax" for 13 years, long before this pandemic, and I am married to a working, known actor. Why are their opinions any less relevant than yours. They are just American citizens, who have a public job. They have a right to have opinions just as you do, and they have access to the same research as you do. You have no idea how informed they are or not. You also have no idea what has informed their opinions during their lifetime. So stick to the facts about vaccines and the pharmaceutical industry and stop throwing your negative and hateful jabs at people whom you do not know. It makes our side look petty and ill informed and not worth listening to. Please stop setting our cause back. It's a bad look.

[@jeffusrangerairborne9061]

Vinay, Vinay, Vinay.... And to think, I had Good Hopes for you.

[@gnoelalexmay]

Vinay's downfall, imo, is that he is SO wedded to the RCT - which CAN BE a very effective tool to find relevant signals, but is also incredibly game-able, and can be designed to hide signals, and to show non-existent efficacy. He's better than some - maybe even most? ...but he SEES the obvious corruption, but is then willing to completely ignore it when it comes to tallying up RCT's that give him the 'prescribed' answer - that early treatments = bad, vaccines = good. Quite infuriating.

[@Max-fw3qy]

You said it all! That os precisely it!

[@MrZett0n]

Yes, read Bad Pharma. So many bad drugs approved on the basis of fraudulent RCT practices, on a literally industrial scale

[@kammonkam4905]

First of all, the point of RCT is exactly that it is designed to eliminate biases and elucidate hidden assumptions and confounders so it is actually least gamble. Of course it is not perfect but let's hear a better way. We are all ears. Secondly VP never said or indicated that he believes vaccine good early treatment bad. You just made it up.

[@justkiddin1980]

Ever since i know the data stays property of the company and everything is done on a “trust me bro” basis i have no faith in whatever study…If researchers aren’t granted full and complete acces to all data the study is bunk to me..

[@gnoelalexmay]

@@justkiddin1980 Absolutely 💯

[@lisamainardi4605]

Everything Bobby said is correct. You need to do more research on some things you are still set on. I like the way you try to make his arguments stronger. You’ve come a long way since early covid and the jab launch.

[@antd8667]

Do u think he has now sold out to big farma

[@davidligon6171]

Invite him to come on the show and see if he will. If you do please make it a direct bit respectful dialogue

[@Nancy-uq4ob]

Doc- do you really think the vax reduced sickness and death? Or do you think a milder variant plus the fact that many at risk already died from the first strain was the cause?

[@debbiejaynes2652]

I'd love to the evidence.

[@paulinewestell4123]

Good point

[@daveheller4488]

What happens 5 years down the road when everyone with subclinical myocarditis needs a heart transplant? Remember the Thai study that showed 29% of perfectly healthy young males developed heart conditions, most subclinical!

[@doremi9]

All cause mortality stats don't seem to support this, however there could be more to tease out there. See Ed Dowd's latest interview with Dr Drew.

[@stoneagedjp]

Considering how much money was at stake, it is hardly surprising that study results would discount any use of alternative therapies.

[@jhonklan3794]

"Alternative" therapies are a trillion dollar industry. If the medical community was only concerned about making $$ they would validate that qauck BS.

[@deadreckoning6288]

Follow the $$$

[@bobbyologun1517]

that is a new age belief not a fact. the most prescribed drugs in the us are cheap, like metformin the wonder drug. if alternative therapies worked, big pharma would copy not discount them. havent you read gerald posners book?

[@stoneagedjp]

Whoosh

[@The_Ballo]

Imagine thinking the jury is still out on lock downs 🙄

[@armin3057]

u would have been one of those dumb guys even during the smallpox pandemic, under Washington himself...yeah even then people had these conspiracies

[@mimi-ur8pc]

The lock downs were wildly successful in their intended agenda; to redistribute a massive amount of wealth from the working class and working poor to the top .0000001%. After that Black Rock bought up real estate all over the country and caused an extreme rise in prices. That is how the greedy globalists roll.

[@racheligai5154]

It's amazing to me how the comments are wiser than the podcast. Yes, look at RFK's complete positions, not just what he said on a particular podcast, and yes, invite him to debate you. Thanks! - Racheli.

[@Charlie-Em]

I like how you sign your comments "Racheli". That's cute!

[@dagforster7627]

I'm finding that the comments are wiser on every video I look at about RFK Jr.

[@conchobar]

He never brought on Pierre Kory, Peter McCollugh, or Robert Malone. Why on earth would we expect him to bring on RFK Jr?

[@dagforster7627]

@@conchobar Yeah I guess you're right on that. tbh I'm not familiar with the channel, I got here researching the coverage of RFK. I subscribe to Kory, not sure I'm familiar with the other two but i'll look into them. Thanks.

[@oliverbird6914]

Not really that surprising I think. This podcaster is a conceited twit with a superiority conokex

[@Mondegreen2020]

RFK 2024!!! 💪🏻🌎🕊️ I trust doctors who've used Ivermectin & Hydroxychloriquine successfully for years, & who've had their studies pulled or unfunded by big pharma pressure. To argue that there are no studies supporting their use is to assume a level playing field in accessing trials & publication thereafter. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@psiinc]

& POTUS DJT🇺🇸💜🙏🏾

[@JCResDoc94]

well, it cant be biden. _JC

[@oldschool8292]

👍

[@jbperez808]

When it comes to HCQ and IVM, clinical experience > RCTs If you can see it working with your own eyes, it is not unreasonable to suspect the RCTs may be rigged.

[@francisseidel8014]

The study on Ivm by Dr. Eli Schwartz in Israel is what made me say there is something there. The difference? Not funded by those who have an agenda.

[@drewanderson9372]

I agree the randomized control trials are the answer if they are done properly. They can also be manipulated by by dishonest researchers too, and most people in the public would never be able to tell.

[@tjellis1479]

2 more weeks....

[@janelellison7611]

Bobby is not wrong. Have him on your show and have a fair debate. Let the truth prevail.

[@revpgesqredux]

This

[@alwoodruff2]

Yes!

[@karldunnegan2689]

He's a lunatic when it comes to his views on vaccines and medicine in general.

[@fabianspieker5027]

I think the guy making these videos knows that. He's just choosing to play unfair.

[@mattk8810]

I love how this guy think he knows info he doesnt have access to

[@bobroberts8500]

So, the entire reason for the placebo to be nothing more than a sugar pill, or saline shot, is because saline & sugar are the least likely substances known cause long lasting, systemic effects that would otherwise cloud any results of the trial with confounding data. Any double blind randomized controlled trial that isn't using an actual placebo in the placebo arm of the trial, isn't actually conducting a randomized controlled trial, because they're intentionally and knowingly introducing confounding factors into the trial in order to kneecap the placebo arm during the safety phase, thus reducing the clarity of any contraindicating safety signals, due to the statistical 'noise' presented by the very much, _not_ _inert_ 'fauxcebo', being _fraudulently_ used in place of an actual placebo. This is why _none_ of your worthless RCTs should even be regarded as legitimate, much less as definitive.

[@justsomenobody889]

Thank you for articulating this, I can’t believe he brushed that point off like that

[@kyle4449]

It was embarrassing to watch a doctor just completely brush this off. I have a close friend who is a doctor and I have backed him into corners many times in regards to discussions about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. This being a main point in the research that's been conducted and is propped up as "truth."

[@nkompass2855]

I would find it very interesting if you were to conduct an interview with RFK Jr. in a podcast format. Would you consider this? RFK Jr has made it more than clear his willingness to chat openly....

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

He doesn't have the balls.

[@sanaon7453]

Why not have an interview with him and get to know more about this topic further?

[@stephenpaek9175]

Invite him to your podcast and have a one on one conversation. We’re all sick of this ‘fact checking’ approach

[@STEM_RC]

Well said!

[@xpaderom2]

Yes

[@surfnbacker84]

Exactly. Cowardly to do this way

[@nancycorbeil2666]

You're not fact-checking anything. You're giving your opinion about what RFK said based on a different set of data, or a different interpretation of the data. Who decides which data is more accurate?

[@ArtU4All]

Right. Who decides whose data is more of a fact. And who is checking the phact-checkers?

[@bobbyologun1517]

the medical doctor in clinical practice > a lawyer with no bg in science

[@BarnabyWild13]

Exactly, the opener was arrogant on its face.

[@Rino37]

@@bobbyologun1517right… and Fauci = science > everything else. There is a problem with this simplistic way of thinking, no?

[@bobbyologun1517]

@@Rino37 what do you mean? why did you mention dr fauci? any medical doctor in clinical practice knows more than a lawyer with no background in medicine or related sciences. wouldnt you agree

[@ds78613]

Which RCTs were done on IVM and HCQ that weren't actually terrible studies (treatment was administered too late, didn't follow the protocols that appeared to work in the field, etc.)? Also, who wins/loses if these studies showed ineffectiveness or effectiveness?

[@justsomenobody889]

Vanay’s response to that would be, “well then you fund the study and do it the way you think it should be done”, except of course no one with enough money to run a proper trial on it has any reason to do $o

[@justkiddin1980]

You should dig deeper, much deeper when it comes to RCT’s. Did you know the data stays property of the company and almost always RCT’s are done on a “trust me bro” basis? I never knew that, so trials are run with a incomplete dataset because the company in question will not give acces to the core dataset only releases what they think will be good for the study…I never thought that was the case.

[@OnevoiceOneview]

Definitely about who wins & loses. We HAD to use the industry's profitable vaccines & new drugs, rather than the existing cheap drugs. The losers were the millions who died needlessly & their families - & all of us who are stuck with this corrupt system!

[@Horatio1886build]

“I’m going to fact check” RFK that put me off right there Doctor. I usually like your commentary but not this time. I have heard alot of expert testimony in court that seemed impressive until cross examination. Then things can change real quick!

[@robertm2608]

Dr. Prasad, how do you explain the marked reduction in COVID morbidity and mortality in Uttar Pradesh where the population received Ivermectin?

[@antd8667]

Say it loud

[@craigphillips6308]

And Japan!

[@b4by81tch]

My wife works at a wholistic medicine practice where the practitioners prescribed ivermectin for treating Covid and patients saw a much quicker recovery.

[@presence5426]

Interesting. I can see how it might work. But the dosing & timing is tricky. It's a cheap & relatively safe med tho.

[@dewaldnel1411]

The science did not change, it was just not done; right from the start and, we all knew that.

[@towatchvids]

It’s a shame so many doctors are STILL not willing to admit these jabs are garbage..

[@randomhuman2595]

They weren't 🤓

[@sandieschmaierschmaier4067]

Educate yourself on all of the following: -the vaccine schedule- 70 ~ doses -learn about each vaccine and boosters -adjuvants in relationship to the blood brain barrier -preexisting medical issues of the subjects chosen in safety trails for vaccines -No one has studied the safety of combining and stacking vaccines administered in one visit to the pediatrician -No one is monitoring adverse events -No liability for big pharma for children’s medical costs associated with adverse reactions -revenue dilemma because In fact now a good amount of doctors’ incomes now come from vaccines administered in the office - this is just a start

[@bobbyologun1517]

where did you read that? what book title and author please

[@sleepyfish3929]

@@bobbyologun1517 start here:The Vaccine-Friendly Plan: Dr. Paul's Safe and Effective Approach to Immunity and Health-from Pregnancy Through Your Child's Teen Years unlike what the title suggests the book questions the vaccine schedule in a very digestible way

[@bobbyologun1517]

@@sleepyfish3929 hello thanks for the recommendation. I was familiar with dr. thomas in passing. i read about the pnw anti-vax doctor.having read the Oregon state medical board sanction, i am astonished he is still able to practice medicine. how could anyone take advices of someone so shamelessly unethical, negligent to the extreme and nakedly anti-science is beyond me. did you know he recommends homeopathy? absurd!

[@brianhoule975]

'Turtles all the way down' is a good book that I haven't seen anyone come close to properly challenging other than strawman arguments.

[@cantbeaslave]

His show with Z Dogg was condescending and disrespectful towards patients and those who have differing opinions and Z Dogg does that often.

[@edhutch8946]

sure, I'll watch this video before it gets pulled. You are cracking me up, these days. You are like, "hey, I think the medical system might be a screwball, and I never thought it was this bad". Bud, it's worse.

[@stanweaver6116]

Yup, way worse than most imagine.

[@StuartFerguson55]

Before it gets pulled? This will get promoted by the establishment... not pulled.

[@dedetudor.]

Audio really low... And interview Dr. Tess Lawrie, Dr Pierre Kory, and Dr. Peter McCoulough. Then I might respect you.

[@Gr8flGrrl]

👊🏻

[@antd8667]

Can a sell out do that?

[@dedetudor.]

@@antd8667 I don't know... Ask him. I've questioned his character and judgement since I saw he's "buds" with zdogg. .... Seriously🤦

[@patsanzone8019]

Dang Vinay you dropped the ball on this one. WTF. I have to turn it off mid-way through. Maybe you should invite RFK on to discuss this.

[@timsamericanenglish7449]

Exactly, this is a hit piece... RFK Jr. has an advisory group made up of over 300 Medical Doctors and Ph.D. researchers from all over the world. RFK Jr. has all of his statements and opinions checked by them so who is Dr. Vinay to claim his professional opinions should be believed? RFK Jr.'s facts are backed up by research, almost all of which have been proven in court through lawsuits. A pretty high standard!? I agree with others here who say to invite RFK Jr. for an actual debate. But bring your A-game and be able to cite some references. I do like this podcast in general but he's completely out of his league here. Also, RFK Jr. has mountains of scientific papers that prove HCQ and IVM prevent illness and death from covid-19. There is no longer any question about that and hundreds of Dr.s who actually treated patients with covid-19 proved that they work. Laughably you basically claim here that somehow clinical research is better than actual results observed by practicing physicians? When in reality, it's the other way around. The researchers should be trying to prove why these medicines work so well. We already know they work. Any research that shows no results or that they don't work must have been done by incompetent researchers.

[@JSmooove98]

“I have to turn it off mid-way through” is an embarrassingly pathetic way of saying “I can’t handle hearing facts and analysis that don’t align with my viewpoint”

[@nashonabo821]

@@JSmooove98 although I disagree with Vinny on this one i have to agree with you. You should be embarrassed to say you had to turn it off like a child throwing a fit

[@36louieboy]

@@timsamericanenglish7449 lol dude are you with him everyday to verify that this stuff is getting done? Or is this what you were told and u just decide to believe it?

[@patsanzone8019]

@@nashonabo821 I didn't throw a fit at all . I just know he's off base on this one and didn't want to watch the rest of the video. Thought it was still okay to disagree and express an opinion. Are you advocating that I say nothing and let him think I'm just another viewer that takes his word without questioning anything ? Have RFK on the show and lets get the conversation moving forward. I assume you watch this chanel because you question the science.

[@carreromartialarts]

When I saw Vinay with Zdogg , I knew he was full of it. He sprinkles some good stuff in but he is definitely on the payroll

[@betsyny1]

I think he’s just naive.

[@eyeofchorus6313]

HQ and Ivor; lets see the trials that applied treatment within 36 hours of symptoms and in doses used by doctors who claimed to see benefits; not 1/100th of the claimed beneficial doses.

[@joeboy1884]

Sorry, loser, it doesn’t work. Never did

[@Mister_Holdsworth]

He should debate RFK on those treatments to find out what he's missing.

[@drticzon]

He won't touch the subject anymore. Doesn't admit his error, and doesn't want to be booted off KZbin.

[@lemoynecastle6213]

And continued the treatment to an endpoint beyond four days, like end of symptoms/treatment.

[@Gr8flGrrl]

@@Mister_Holdsworth He should debate Pierre Kory

[@CM-fv2js]

I came to the comments just to see how bad y’all we’re tearing this fraud up and I was not disappointed!! Keep it up guys!

[@jimsmallish4013]

What fraud?

[@seekerout]

I was surprised to hear you cite a meta analysis of Ivermectin finding it had no effect. I'd thought Tess Lowrie had carried out a meta-analysis that found it very effective. How so?

[@griffinharvey3910]

He is TOTALLY MISSING THE BOAT on HCQ & Iver!

[@Frosty-oj6hw]

The problem is that we have conflicting science, there's a huge slew of papers on this showing different effects. The ones that show no effect are ones in which people had criticised them as designed to fail based on the parameters, BEFORE the studies were even completed. They'd do things like not adjust the dosage for weight of the patient, they'd give doses late in treatment rather than early and they'd administer doses too small or not in combination with other recommended treatments (doctors with good success rates were giving multiple treatments at once). Where as the meta analysis by other scientists were attacked and deemed not credible, they went after people and their careers, not after the science itself. It's really gross to see people like this sit here and lecture on meta studies when they ignore some and not others, that's cherrypicking. The whole point of meta studies is to take a broad range of studies and extract some signal across them all, not pick them in such a way as to get the outcome you want.

[@betsyny1]

He needs to get Pierre Kory on to talk about IVM

[@thepope2412]

@@Frosty-oj6hw Bonus points for stopping the trial as to not get the sample size needed to have statistically significant results.

[@Crimsonwhocares]

Yeah those criticisms definitely were valid and not totally more made up bs. In fact every study I have ever read that disagreed with me was not even using the right measurements. Like what totally dummy heads! Why did they bother becoming an expert when a total moron like me can do it better without knowing anything about how to correctly do it.

[@tdcaudio]

How about you have someone like Dr Pierre Kory on to debate Ivermectin. You keep saying you did a meta analysis without any specifics. You seem to be cherry picking to me

[@antd8667]

Perrie Kory wood flatten him is short order

[@billyquaide1902]

Uttar Pradesh? It's its own meta analysis. Did COVID go around all of these major populations with EXTREMELY LOW death rates? The pandemic has long been over for countries that didn't vaccinate their populations.

[@craigphillips6308]

You're right. Africa is one such place.

[@ArtU4All]

🙏🌿❤️🌍

[@watchdogdb]

VP, my question is would you vote for RFK Jr. over Joe Biden?

[@joyduncan9434]

I would vote for a potato over Biden at this point .

[@fightfamilybuffalo]

obviously yes

[@sprogovac]

Vinay, I read your books and was curious on your opinion on the fact that most of the traditional vaccines came out in the era before EBM and therefore don't have RCT data supporting their safety or efficacy. Since you're a big proponent of RCTs and a big proponent of running RCTs on traditional medical practices that were grandfathered in before the era of EBM, shouldn't we do them on our traditional vaccines. I know of one 'R'CT done on the DPT vaccine in Guniea-Bissau, and it was negative. Despite the kids getting the DPT vaccine getting less of the diseases they were vaccinated for (good) they were more likely to die of other diseases.

[@olacraig2883]

stopped watching and unsubscribed from ‘all in’ during the plandemic once I realized, not using the platform to call out the travesty unraveling in front of us and knowing better was just as culpable as political/social correctness which seemed more important to certain host/s I would be doing a little more digging into who and what you are backing and being critical of. RFK is a true blood all the way, on point with all his views including the hard questions. Yes, let’s do a fact check on Fauci. In agreement with that..

[@antd8667]

Vanay has now sold out in my view

[@user-bz2hl9xw1b]

Vinay is still early in his journey understanding all the corruption in his chosen profession. I hope he doesn’t stall out.

[@antd8667]

U mean sell out !

[@rosezaz6607]

Naivety is one thing. Denial clouding professional judgement is another. Refusal to experience the deep grief about the profession that has failed us so big time that you are so invested in and identified with and the captured “science” it’s based on is tough but I’m sure you’re up to it. please do some soul-searching.

[@celiacresswell6909]

@@rosezaz6607 He said it at the end: he thinks medical science (currently) runs on very high standards of evidence. He will have to break through his cognitive dissonance, which, as you probably know, really hurts! I think for all his intelligence and rigour, this will prove too much for him.

[@NoThankYouToo]

He’s very obviously a smarmy sleeze bag. Guys like this only get worse.

[@Lasonic79]

Nah, he’s controlled opposition

[@medicalgametheory]

@10:07, I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but why wouldn't the control arm affect your ability to detect safety signals? If I compare a new therapy to a known toxic drug, my new therapy would look safe by comparison, no? Which I think is RFK Jr's whole point, that the adjuvants, emulsifiers, surfactants, etc. are the toxic elements in the vaccines. If anyone could help me understand Dr. Prasad's argument here I'd greatly appreciate it.

[@Soundsaboutright42]

It's funny watching people tell you in the comments whats up. You need to pay attention dude.

[@conchobar]

Has Vinay ever addressed the HCQ dosages on the UK Recovery Trials? He sure does quote them and added them to his meta analysis.

[@OnevoiceOneview]

So many people have just accepted these HCQ & Ivermectin studies on face value. Actually, some of them are so manipulated that any rank amateurs could see it - IF they'd only look!

[@Sm-iw2vh]

Any “fact checking” service is always a put off. I’m going to “fact check” someone just comes across badly in my opinion.

[@59PianoMom]

I hope Vinay will take RFK, Jr up on his request to have a dialogue with him. That would be scientific, fair and rational.

[@wesleywright3159]

In his book RFK states many of the trials done on ivm and hcq were subject to bias by starting too late into the disease process, using incorrect dosage, etc. Have you addressed this? The meta study is only as good as the individual studies included correct? This is a pertinent point because you state corrupt regulatory capture appears to exist so wouldn’t a coordinated effort to discredit these alternative treatments follow?

[@lilithstarchild5098]

He hasn't bothered to even read the book. Licensed. Lazy. Fraud. Does he treat patients without reading their medical history? Does he prescribe drugs on the basis of a press release instead of researching it first? What he lacks in medical ethics he makes up for in narcissism. I'm done with arrogant incompetent doctors... and the past three years have exposed how badly bad doctors have monopolized our system. He just outed himself as just another bad doctor. I'm done coming back to bad doctors.

[@xpaderom2]

Good point

[@andeewasson7005]

Vinay, how were the trials on Ivermectin done? Was it given alone? At a low or advised dose? Or following the frontline doctors protocol? I ask this because I had a home health patient, 94 years old, triple bypass within the last year, with multiple myeloma, ( a poster child for a covid death waiting to happen), who contracted covid and refused to go to the hospital so his daughter got him the Frontline doctors protocol meds + Ivermectin and literally within three days he was on his feet and feeling better. Added bonus lab work drawn 10 days later showed his previously high cancer level lab values at near-normal. That was in November of 2021. His lab values are still low today. He just turned 96. I don't know what Ivermectin can do on its own but done within that protocol it was nothing short of a miracle. I saw it with my own two eyes

[@Hottubman74]

i am not arguing agaimst the use of iveecton or hcq.. in the bmgf spomsored study with hcq, doses for. exceeded safe levels

[@traceybaldwin6509]

I dare you to debate RFK, Jr. Go head-to-head with him on these issues you’ve claimed to debunk.

[@bruceames9224]

I’m looking forward to your awakening sir, still cya ….

[@Gr8flGrrl]

He’s bound to get red pilled sooner or later

[@michaelgonzalez619]

When he retires😂

[@lamp-stand7]

A bit of a strawman response. For instance, I don't believe RFK stated that "all" vaccines are bad. Agree entirely that the media needs to LAY OFF playing gatekeeper.

[@antd8667]

And the boot licker that blindly follow it

[@Closertotruth2]

Regarding your view of mRNA vaccine efficacy in healthy persons under 50 years of age. We actually don’t know if they caused more harm than good. We have no idea how many hearts have been damaged and what impact this will have on such persons over the next 10-20 years.

[@justgivemethetruth]

I think we do know it did more good than harm. This fear of permanent heart problems is a bogeyman kind of like the fear of nuclear radiation.

[@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql]

Precisely

[@oldschool8292]

The numbers are already larger than any other so called vaccine. Interesting that this week I rec'd an offer for supplemental Cancer insurance and learned California Medicaid will now be covering Cancer specialists, special testing, treating and clinical trials. What a change from your excluded or will never be able to afford premiums if you've had Cancer to, now there's supplemental insurance for just Cancer and poor person's medical insurance is going all out to pay for supposed top of the line everything🤔 I'd say there's a LOT more cancer out there and a LOT more to come along with a LOT more money to be made by some of the same players.

[@truthfuljoe]

@@justgivemethetruth Keep telling yourself that bud. As if myocarditis is the only issue. Check the Japanese biodistribution study (you know, the study those of us paying attention knew about back in May 2021). The LNPs spread EVERYWHERE, all through the body. I wouldn't trade places with you for a million dollars. Good luck.

[@justgivemethetruth]

@@truthfuljoe >> Dec 6, 2022 - Myocarditis cases linked to the mRNA vaccines are typically more benign than those caused by infections, >> After statistical adjustment, vaccine-associated myocarditis was associated with a 92% lower relative risk of death within 6 months compared with what was seen with myocarditis cases in the prepandemic era (adjusted HR 0.08; 95% CI 0.01-0.57), according to researchers led by Francisco Tsz Tsun Lai, PhD, and Edward Wai Wa Chan, MPH (both from the University of Hong Kong). The chances of myocardititus are very low, and serious complications are 90%+ lower. It is a temporary thing as well. Cower in your boots if tyou want, bud.

[@Lp78Ch]

Vinay is not fully awake yet. He continues to get it wrong on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

[@KarmaKulture1]

and vaccines

[@cherylmcduff5388]

and Vit D

[@lilithstarchild5098]

And everything in RK's book with 2200 references cited-- published 18 months ago (Vinay overwhelmed with watching podcasts and making click bait past year and a half-- NO TIME FOR READING SCIENCE!!!)

[@yashathebelgianmalinois348]

While I enjoyed your videos during Covid because you were one of few who were more balanced, I’m going to have to disagree with you on your perception on RFK Junior. I think RFK Junior is about the most honest man we have in politics right now, with an incredible amount of integrity and courage to speak truth and ask for safety and honesty in science. Science has been an industry of politics for a very long time, and it’s become dangerous over the past decades, even more, so in the last few years. I think RFKjr is seen as a threat to the political science industry where the motto is profit over ethics.

[@CLO2Solutions]

First of all you should cite the studies you're referring too regarding both the drugs you said they say don't work and secondly, I believe if you'll watch Dr. Kory's analysis of those studies you'll see how they were literally designed to fail by either starting treatment too late or giving too high or too low of of a dose depending upon the medicine studied. You should also look for conflicts of interest. Dig deeper.

[@antd8667]

A sell out do not dig deeper

[@craigphillips6308]

Amen.

[@thunderbird6777]

Dr. V needs to read and RE-read Dr. Kory's bk: "The War on Ivermectin" and RFK's bk

[@fatar9075]

You make some good points. Please invite him on your show for a discussion. I would love to see that!

[@antd8667]

Does not have the balls to get creamed hat bad

[@JuanGarcia-rn7ed]

He won't do it

[@eugeniebreida1583]

@@JuanGarcia-rn7edRFK would definitely accept an interview here.

[@JK_JK_JK]

What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?

[@user-bp3xk5uz4q]

If anything good has come out of this whole thing, it's that many, many people now understand we cannot blindly trust our Governments and medical 'experts'. I applaud the genuine people that have integrity and courage! Including Robert Kennedy Jr. We all have gut instincts. Has never been a more important time to heed them.

[@lilithstarchild5098]

Amen!

[@ddk567t]

Vinay, asking you yet again, since you repeatedly dismiss IVM and HCQ due to lack of RCTs. WHERE ARE THE RCTs showing COVID vaccine efficacy against severe illness and death?? Where??

[@jennyguy5001]

Yes!!! That's what I'm waiting for too. Tired of hearing people repeat that they saved lives, without presenting any evidence.

[@antd8667]

Say it loud

[@momimstillalive8962]

GET HIM ON. LETS HEAR A LIVE DISCUSSION PLEASE

[@unclestinky6388]

RFK Jr might well agree to an interview to address these critiques.

[@visionsmagazineonlin]

Dexamethazone (I'm a hospital worker) is a steroid in case anyone is not familiar. I did hear a Dr. who actually treats patients mention this helping. I definitely believe ya there. JFK Jr. is a former law professor. I have a lot of respect for him. He has a true grasp on human suffering. So rare these days. I listen to him a lot to learn what he is all about.

[@CAHunt]

Vinay said the vaccine arguments made by RFK were unconvincing. I would suggest that in a 2 hour interview covering multiple topics, it is almost impossible to provide all the information needed to convince everybody. It would be interesting for Vinay to have a 1 or 2 hour discussion/debate with RFK focused just on the topic of vaccines, to see if his vaccine position can stand rigorous scrutiny. He said that if he is proven wrong on something he will alter his position, so this type of rigorous inquiry would be a benefit to him and the scientific community.

[@lilithstarchild5098]

VP could interview RK on the book he wrote on this very subject in 2021. Very unprofessional, ill-prepared, and anti-scientific for VP to have mucked it up this way. VP's credibility has plummeted back down to ZDawg levels.

[@misscorina]

​@@lilithstarchild5098 absolutely...and zdogg levels are incredibly low as we all know by now.

[@kg356]

The problem is that if RFK actually changed his mind, he would lose most of his audience. The phenomenon is called "audience capture" - you should look into it.

[@classictypewriter]

Exactly

[@classictypewriter]

​@@lilithstarchild5098​@lilithstarchild5098 exactly. Perhaps he was just stating his 'perception' of the interview, or of someone seeing rfkjr for the first time. Though if he actually wanted the 'answers', which would be the non-lazy way to go, he would go to the book. (He doesn't, because, though feigning or attempting objectivity, he's actually emotionally reasoning based on his attachments to some medical fallacies, which will take a few more years for him to unravel

[@mikehixon944]

Medications used as an antiviral treatment for respiratory infections have only ever been effective when taken immediately upon the start of symptoms to my knowledge. My opinion is that a medication like Ivermectin would only be helpful under that condition, and at the right dosage for body weight. Any study that did not use those parameters would not be very useful imo.

[@antd8667]

I thing the docter already nos this and does not care

[@jasonsstratton]

Why is this the only podcast RFk hasn't been on, and it's the only one I really want to see him on.

[@patricianab6546]

Dr Prasad. When the pandemic was new and people were very sick, it was stupid to demand RCT for HCQ and Ivermectin since they are both incredibly safe drugs. People who were sick should have had the option to try it.

[@lilithstarchild5098]

He doesn't even get INFORMED CONSENT.

[@OnevoiceOneview]

Yes, & the trials to "disprove" them were rigged! Not the correct dose; not given timely'... Then, the suspicious fact that you couldn't even get the stuff! Even when a few doctors would prescribe, many pharmacists refused to fill the prescription. No wonder that some people turned to a veterinary product.

[@caliguy1260]

Yes. Patients should be allowed access to placebos.

[@debbiejaynes2652]

Not sure these docs who haven't read and understood the 86 vaccine act should be defending the schedule. I would love to see a debate with Aaron Siri in the mix.

[@trafferz]

ditto

[@sean_g5367]

Great suggestion!

[@jamesparry1547]

Do you have remorse for your earlier promotions for this medical intervention???

[@jennifers4017]

In this video you fact check RFK Jr. and then all the commenters on this video fact check you about RFK Jr. Hilarious 😆

[@rowanmillar6798]

vox populi vox dei

[@michelerooney5907]

Yes I’m here for the comments section.

[@lilithstarchild5098]

​@@michelerooney5907 That's where the science happens.😊

[@macbump]

If your vaccines have an adjuvant which could even potentially affect the person (such as aluminium) then yes you must ALSO do a proper saline placebo. Otherwise you run the risk of missing something that that causes. Such as some sort of neurological deficit perhaps. 12:03 And RFK is NOT saying he’s against vaccines. He just wants proper safety testing.