VR is EXPLODING and the Quest 2 has a new MASSIVE Competitor

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

I have been trying to do a lot more in depth investigative work while covering VR news rather than just rehashing the same small updates over and over again. I found some really fun and interesting stuff, but I also see (even though this is more interesting) the interest is significantly lower. I'll be trying new things. I'll be continuing this Tuesday Newsday on my Twitch: Twitch.tv/thrilluwu

[@Sharky..]

There is no new quest hardware😢

[@johndoyle6130]

3rd

[@PhillipAmthor]

Does XR stand for crossed reality? If not pls explain i only know AR and VR. If yes i dont know why this word is used because you never use AR and VR together or do you?

[@endorstick1569]

Fun fact that’s one year after the oasis was launched in ready player one

[@Adiuva1]

@@PhillipAmthor XR is extended reality and is used as a catch-all term. AR and VR together is MR or Mixed Reality. So AR, VR, and/or MR are always XR, but XR is not always referring to one of those.

[@lep2525]

I just want more AAA VR games like Half-Life Alyx. Hope this leads to more of them.

[@cwright2872]

Right there with ya, seems like the majority of VR games are shallow and don't look great, I'm almost done with half life alyx on my first go around and it's amazing, wish there was more like it

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

THIS^^^^^

[@covertgaming1628]

Yeah right? I feel like the first AAA vr game was walking dead saints and sinners but I could be very wrong. It had a good story. Good combat. And LOOTING a gamers wet dream lol.

[@xaver6154]

Yee boy

[@cwright2872]

@@covertgaming1628 I have that too, can't wait to jump in once I finish half life

[@masacote_]

YES, PLEASE show us more about the object masking tool. Every time I hear about the metaverse, I am more afraid of a possible corporate monopoly. I hope we make out an open, transparent, and secure way of building it.

[@turnfrmsinorhell_jesus]

Revelation 22 14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes" (repent in Jesus name to purify their spirit so that their spirit may enter pure into the holy place of the Lord of hosts ), that they -may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Lords commandments Love God, love neighbour as self, honor parents, keep Sabbath holy (No : other gods /idols/murder/theft /adultery/covet /using Gods name in vain/ false witness against neighbour. John 14 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

[@mateter5097]

I’ve been dreaming of something like a metaverse since I was a kid, I’m just kinda scared it can go so bad with Facebook being at the head of it. But they could also make it really good. Here’s hoping.

[@insert_rad_username_here]

There’s also a lot of other companies investing in it.

[@Fire-Manz]

Same here! I also feel the chills down my spine and really I don&t want it to stop. i am ready for change!

[@Gramsy]

It doesn't have to be that way. Never underestimate the power of the individual. Everyone can find their own way to make a true open source decentralized Metaverse possible.

[@saiyaniam]

If I was to pick anyone from startrek to run this, it woulda been Data, so don't worry 🤘

[@Logan-nk4vg]

I don’t want to be a dick but yeah if Facebook gets control say bye to you privacy.

[@jacksonmorse8516]

VR is headed down the same road as smartphones, and at a similar pace.

[@johnfortnitetoes]

cheaper

[@SweetLemonBun]

They are literally smartphones lol

[@jacksonmorse8516]

@@SweetLemonBun Things have changed like crazy since the days of Google Cardboard. What we have available to the public can do more than what “smartphone” VR can hope to accomplish.

[@Akab]

@@jacksonmorse8516 its not about the hardware its aboutbthe software. Smartphones nowadays are fcking powerfull but useless for anything other than consuming because that's what android is built for. same is gonna hapoen with the quest, a closed walled garden for consumption leading to lower and lower quality over time

[@shamaur6951]

@@Akab I dont think they’ll stay on android for long

[@zrk03]

Does anyone feel like VR is going to revolutionize things just like how the Iphone and touch screen phones changed everything forever.

[@Pumpokin_]

I think it already is

[@jmzlolo]

Feel like in a couple decades vr/ar will completely replace phones

[@lefourbe5596]

and so the final global shortage accelerate. The breaking point is near. Vr won't revolutionize anythings, it will be one of the first things to go when it will be necessary to ration materials. the wings of VR will probably be cut halfway the mass adoption.

[@lukestanley820]

@@lefourbe5596 Took the doomer pill huh? You must be fun at parties

[@imtheoperatorttv637]

@@lefourbe5596 Found the doomer

[@deddrz2549]

I feel like this is the first Tuesday Newsday in a while, almost got used to Wednesday Newsday and Thursday Newsday.

[@hakasehakase]

Fr

[@slades_salad]

i’ve started to call it “someday newsday” that its actually pretty fun to see it actually hit tuesdays

[@gibgun]

HELLO!

[@zachrivera9162]

ya and it barely was a news day sense he only talked about one thing

[@_vid3599]

Same

[@djaxexe6332]

the thing that bugs me the most is that currently in VR, you can make yourself look exactly how you wanna look for free (unless you pay someone else to do it for you). But with the adoption of the metaverse and wants to make money off of all of it. The likelyhood of custom model uploads sticking around is low, since they could sell you different things rather than letting you make them yourself.

[@stormvr1070]

Custom made avatars are what make Second Life and VRChat successful. MetaVerse or Horizons won't succeed because their vision on "avatars" isn't creative enough. People don't want to look like plain old people in VR.

[@djaxexe6332]

@@stormvr1070 but they can keep all of the customization and everything and just sell it too, or a more likely option would be they charge you a hefty fee to upload your own content. Companies are very determined to monetize as much as possible. Especially since they're pouring so much money in, they're gonna need profit. IMO it's doubtful they'll stop at selling machines. Clothing companies could partner and charge you for wearing certain things. If the meta is painted to replace reality in a sense, why wouldn't they have VR clothing stores and all that?

[@some_icedtea5205]

@@stormvr1070 can't wait to see man bat when I'm saying by to my grandma in vr.

[@bountyjedi]

That "For free" contradicts how much money I've spent on buying vrchat avatar models... The difference being of course that you buy the actual model data and you can customize it in Blender and Unity to your hearts content. I'd be wary of any platform that tries to lock you into some closed eco-system where what you buy is not transferrable to other platforms. With my VRC avatars I can use the same model data in Neos VR, VirtualCast, Cluster and more given some effort on my part.

[@shimoarikiku7791]

Quest 2 is blowing up. I was in Target yesterday in the electronics section for a while and I heard a lot of different people asking the clerk for Quest 2’s but they were sold out. It looked like mostly parents buying for their children for Christmas.

[@tortoma]

Yes

[@Aereto]

Meanwhile I don't need one when I have Lynx R1 to keep tabs of

[@domeshine69]

Walmart is selling refurbished 64GB Quest 2 for $199!

[@marcelloreeves7216]

Great More Screechers! 🙄

[@presidentofchina1496]

@@marcelloreeves7216 Hey at least you can bully more children online like I do

[@jabe2698]

Im so blessed to have been born into the age of the vr, the age, of the future😌

[@thesilliestcookieeater]

Same

[@JhonnyBomby]

Yep

[@ryans3795]

Lol, noob, it's all about what happens after vr 😉

[@duckonaroll1913]

@@ryans3795 real reality

[@zenithquasar9623]

I feel the opposite if the OpenMetaverse is not a thing. I don’t want to live in some corporate owned alternate reality!

[@Remin534]

Can't wait to see what the industry has next in store for us as consumers. Keep at it Thrill, you are awesome!

[@antoniobordonhos1672]

I don't think you'll ever run out of content to produce more informational videos. I'm actually more worried about the amount of information within these videos. Eventually there will come a point we're there's so much stuff to go over that one video a week might not be enough. I wanna know what would you do if your overworked or given to much info to do at once? Would you do more videos more often or skip over the less important stuff? Cant wait to see the future for both vr and your channel though. Hope everything turns out amazing. 😄

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

This comment just made me so freaking happy, I don't think you understand

[@antoniobordonhos1672]

@@ThrillSeekerVR well, either way it's a win win. Either we get more thrillseeker videos or we get better thrillseeker videos. (Not saying your videos aren't good, there amazing, but everything can always be improved.)

[@venn7257]

@@ThrillSeekerVR Because you have assurance that your role won't become obsolete? Or that you've established yourself a place in the history of VR?

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

@@venn7257 Yeah in a way! Not that the assurance is necessarily even true or real, but the idea that I will likely have *something* to make content with regarding VR likely forever is a nice feeling :)

[@reptarien]

This is some very promising news. The fact that so many other HUGE companies are getting into the metaverse, means that in time, the metaverse will be what we all want; a decentralized service just like the internet. Facebook will probably fight it heavily but as long as these big competitors keep going, they don't stand a chance.

[@djpiercy1235]

The best part is if everyone starts using the term "metaverse" so liberally, Meta (the company) actually has a chance to lose any legal trademarks they have for it.

[@MrJr1976]

We just need hardline privacy laws to stop a dystopia from ocurring

[@mattcy6591]

This second push for VR is exciting. So many large companies bailed after Gen 1. I hope this is the push that makes it mainstream

[@warmachine6620]

More of the older generations are naturally resistance to change. A couple good examples of this are the current transitions we are experiencing from the ICE to EV vehicles and smart phones. The change is relatively slow at first and then, as the tech gets better, more efficient and cheaper to produce, that transition starts to pick up speed as more and more people start to grasp the benefits and viability of the change. Of course, all new innovations and advancements have their nay-sayers, as to be expected, but eventually those people become the minority. Having said that, I have no doubt that VR is the future of gaming and enterprise.

[@dogemaster4773]

6:49 2000 RMB is actually around 315 dollars US, so the quest 2 still technically beats it by a slight bit. Plus shipping and import fees, the quest 2 will definitely be cheaper.

[@DavidLinn]

plus china will spy the shit out of you. between china and facebook, i'll happily click "agree with fb terms and conditions"

[@Kurama_02]

@@DavidLinn Yeah. Pick your poison situation.

[@whitechocolatethunder3078]

@@DavidLinn lmao yea, When facebook spies on me I get suspiciously relevant advertisements, when China spies on me, I get a national security risk

[@saoifchannel3352]

@@DavidLinn Both are equally shit and both are stealing data from you, weird thing is, facebook was known for data breach and china rarely or doesnt in the first place but china get the most blame, the stereotype are bullshit, get out

[@regulusvii]

@@whitechocolatethunder3078 how? not saying you're wrong, just many people fearmonger China just because others do and don't have any real reasons. And I mean more than just China's government is bad. Like why tf should they care about you and what would it even do for them? They don't operate for profit like Facebook and don't have an incentive to suck as much attention and money out of you like Facebook.

[@RaskaTheFurry]

China, a special place where you send your designs in order to have your stuff made, but you are sending your designs, so they can a do copy it down to the bolts

[@luckylanno]

More Varjo content please! I'd like to know more about their "Workspace" project too if possible. I love VR gaming, but I'm also curious about ways to bring VR into my work life as well.

[@bjorn_swendsen]

This is the number one VR channel without a doubt. I subscribed twice and clicked the bell four times.

[@lukethornton9066]

Absolutely would like to see more of the Varjo masking tool. My family is big into racing sims and that short video at the end looked fantastic. Would love to see what else you can do with it.

[@nathanieltheanimal9450]

I'm just so incredibly grateful I got into the virtual world when I did. It will be apart of my life I'll never forget. I'll be telling my grandkids of my VR days lol.

[@bentovr6918]

Agreed

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

While they'll be using holograms or cutting edge electronic contact lenses.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@rangerkayla8824 I hope your grandkids aren't under the age of 13. VR isn't meant for young kids.

[@devastaterx]

Man that was an amazing amount of information. I always had high hopes for VR/AR. I've been in this for years now with over 7 headsets owned. It looks like the future is bright indeed. 🕶

[@dailyduck9178]

Thrill should start a podcast, I would listen to it

[@StupidNSimplesns]

When you said 2025 is only 3 years away I felt actually shocked for a second. I remember 2025 being 10 years away.

[@pivea]

The length of this video has earned a nod of approval.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

Absolutely.

[@null_face]

You had me at 'brain-computer interface.' I can't wait to see what valve's been doing all this time

[@Thezuule1]

You won't see the kind of interfaces Gabe is talking about in your lifetime. Gabe is blowing smoke. With the absolute pinnacle of technology we can make a blind person see an incredibly pixelated 2D image where a person can make out incredibly large letters. This requires surgery and electrodes inserted directly in your brain and is objectively a pile of garbage compared to even the worst human sight. It has taken decades to reach this point. The idea that full dive is coming anytime soon is a pipe dream.

[@BoltRM]

It's coming but primarily in the form of glasses. Eventually, there will be a point where there's a distinct advantage to implants over glasses.

[@ultravioletcatastrophe]

You un-had me at 'brain-computer interface'

[@punishedkid]

@@Thezuule1 You know, the real money is in bioengineering. That's what everyone's missing out on. Sure, a bunch of wires can send a couple pixels to someones brain, but you know what your eye can do?

[@Aereto]

@@Thezuule1 Instead, we can just focus on military applications. Using neural interface to control aircraft and other vehicles. Drones are a bit of a stretch, but a COFFIN implementation in aircraft is doable.

[@mr.ditkovich2826]

I am glad you are continuing your content as I find these videos to be somewhat enjoyable and vr news is what we need to get vr around

[@Saplingbat]

I won't lie. I would rather see the VR market collapse completely, then see it be what Facebook wants it to be.

[@lefourbe5596]

and also for global ressources. a new mass adotion device will eat even more supply on every part of the society. I will say Vr is fine as it is.

[@knyt0]

i wouldn't

[@autumngalix4616]

@@knyt0 Trust me, you do not want VR to be what Facebook wants it to be. Maybe a lot of us have been desensitized by all the ads and exploitation but trust me we do not need VR to go down the same road.

[@knyt0]

@@autumngalix4616 i'd rather just have full-dive asap

[@XcaliburZeRo]

I'd rather a dystopian future if it means awesome VR. I spend thousands on VR tech, and I'll keep doing it until I'm inside the holodeck.. or full-dive. Whatever you want to call it. Its inevitable when people like me fuel the industry. I've been obsessed with it for years, and there are no signs of that going away. Every time I take a break or sell some of my VR tech, I regret it and buy it again.

[@meme-ality5284]

Man you are amazing and in depth with your videos, thank you so much.

[@MrDannyboilove]

I just really want the metaverse to eventually become the next internet. Where no one single company owns the internet but is a place people can pay to access and have access to tons of other sites/information. I think once it gets to that point the metaverse will be as irreplaceable as the internet itself. So long as companies have their own separate metaverse it will feel disconnected and tiring to jump from space to space by loading apps for each one. Also I wonder if Meta will allow other metaverse apps on their platform.

[@protieus6214]

It's happening all ready

[@TylerTraverse]

Gabe Newell actually gave that talk back in May. It was just resurfaced in VR news recently because I guess they were hungry for some news. Hopefully their opinions haven't changed.

[@Legrandvizirdumetavrse]

Quality content as usual. Thank you. I can't wait to see the futur of China's games and Valve's games

[@some_icedtea5205]

Nice name lol

[@Legrandvizirdumetavrse]

@@some_icedtea5205 ;) thanks

[@refraysmusic]

When that KatVR + bHaptics + Forcefeedback gloves vid coming out? I want to see the godly combo!

[@Claysoldier456]

I just wrote a 13 page essay for my political and social science class about what Meta's Metaverse my look like in the future. I'm so interested in this topic and I can't wait to write my next essay about other Metaverse competitors and individuals working on making this a reality.

[@craftboy338]

Just want to say, I work at a Costco and about a month or two ago we started selling Quest 2's in store, and this last Sunday we sold more in one day than the last three weeks. Your channel inspired me to offer tips whenever I see people buy them, most importantly the tip about taking breaks if you feel motion sickness, to get your VR legs.

[@SkyReaperOne]

You know... Despite Facebook/Meta being super sketchy, I can't help but appreciate how their presence is influencing the speed at which VR is being developed. What I expected to take another 10-20 years might only take 5. Gotta deal with both the good and the bad I guess. Here's to hoping regulations to keep things from being too degenerate privacy-wise pop up sooner rather then later.

[@MrScorpianwarrior]

I absolutely despise Facebook/Meta for their generally sketchy practices, and hate the way they control their ecosystem. But I have a Quest 2 and I love it and would recommend it to anyone. I don't want to support them, I want their product. I hate the company but love how much they started pushing other companies forward.

[@some_icedtea5205]

@@MrScorpianwarrior conflicted lol

[@aj2228]

If Facebook doesn't have competition, do you think they would really innovate as quickly? You know how Microsoft had a monopoly on browsers in the 90s, and that's why browsers sucked back then.

[@SkyReaperOne]

@@aj2228 You'll have to excuse me, but I'm completely lost on the context that brought in this reply. I don't think anyone here mentioned Facebook's competition. Mind filling in the blank for me?

[@Zeieraoh]

@@some_icedtea5205 a leech...if im being blunt.

[@CrimsonDawn-ou4og]

Just subbed, just hit the bell. I love VR related things and your channel is perfect. Thank you bro.

[@stephenmeeker2601]

Bro, The Metaverse is something I am walking toward while shaking with this weird mix of terror and excitement. Everything comes with positives and negatives. I dont think im alone in this, but I am scared out of my mind with all this but I cant wait to jump in and have the time of my life :)

[@ssj3vegett0]

theres nuthing to be terrified about. everything will be the same thru time as it always has been. youll always need money to Live. and after work youll have a new medium to kill time thats it. and if it did terrify you, all you have to do is sell it away. but if it works out for you..youll keep it, play it, put it down do your means to earn money and thats it, repeat everyday

[@RenegadeLK]

Got mine a couple days ago I like it but games that like seem hard to find.

[@jasonlyons1575]

I love how the metaverse is trying to resell the internet back to people and it is working

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

It worked already with social media... and now the companies who made them are literally dictating the way the internet works.

[@neojenshi4055]

Exactly, I never understood why metaverse was so pushed as much when on paper it's been existing for years. It's just a plan to resell you the internet

[@cenciende9401]

Either you don't know what the metaverse is, don't know what the internet is, or both.

[@domeshine69]

Competition is necessary! Bravo!!!

[@j0doe1]

It feels like Meta just opened the Pandora's Box of XR. I don't even think I could try to imagine what's in store for XR now.

[@VoicelessScream]

That sexy coffee intro + VR content is a match made in heaven, combining my 2 passions. Good stuff

[@J4YF1N]

ive been wanting a quest 2 but i haven't had any income at all so nothing in my savings and im struggling to find a way to get one so watching your videos is the closest ive had to vr and just watching your channel is amazing so i wonder what actual vr is like

[@mattismadsen8756]

Eyo, Nice to see you there. This is some interessting stuff

[@timwhite6171]

I feel like a metaverse is to much, I love vr but everyone wants to make almost a second life in the metaverse. I can't wrap my head around it all.

[@steel5897]

Yeah same. I think people who spend all day on VR Chat are weird as shit. No offense. Like I know a dude who literally sleeps in VR Chat, with his headset on, and wakes up inside VR Chat. That's crazy.

[@timwhite6171]

@@steel5897 yeah I see what you mean. I guess I'm not ready for all that

[@orionishi6737]

It's just the internet basically. Instead of webpages or your social media feed being a 2D flat experience it's in a 3D environment. It's just a fancier interface for the internet.

[@Zebo12345678]

@@steel5897 I'm a discord moderator for a VTuber that got their start back in late 2017 when VRChat was first gaining traction. Not only have they slept in VRChat, but there's entire _sleepovers_ that happen in VRChat. Like, _lots_ of people do it. I just don't understand it. I like VR as much as the next guy but I could never spend that much time in VR at once, _especially_ in VRChat.

[@bishopvida]

global warming is about to put us underground, vr's the only way we're gonna see the sun, feel the nostalgia of a breeze

[@Cakebattered]

What this means is that Qualcomm is going to make a ton of money since every new HMD mentioned or alluded to will be using a Qualcomm chipset.

[@redwarrior864]

On the Chinese headset: I'm not surprised by the similarity. There is a trend with the Chinese market that, if it is popular in the West, they'll make a clone for China. A common place you see this is in videogames, like the... various Overwatch clones. And unlike Western companies that jump on the bandwagon- the Battle Royale genre, for instance- they will make something very, very close to the original- like "Hero Mission", an Overwatch clone, and that is WITH an official release of Overwatch in China. Facebook, however, is banned; and, by extension, so is Oculus (Now Meta), so this hardware isn't competing against the original Quest 2. The point is, Chinese companies are pretty brazen about copying stuff from the Western market, even more so than Western companies. In some cases, I'm glad for that- it means that Chinese consumers will get to enjoy stuff that they otherwise probably wouldn't (E.g., the "Quest 2", or at least a clone of it). It also means that, with the VR market booming in China and the West alike, should they change their mind (Or, at this point, culture) regarding the internet it means China will not have been left behind; it will be able to integrate... semi-smoothly into the global virtual ecosystem. It all depends on if one of the things that gets copied is standards, because that will be the biggest hurdle to overcome regarding the creation of a consistent, decentralised metaverse: Standards, like the ones we are used to (HTTP etc) but for VR. That will be a hurdle to overcome with all the companies in the West, too, not just between the two "sides" of the world. On the other hand, it disappoints me, because China is pretty big on censoring content it doesn't like. The clones allow them to do that without missing out on... at least the essence of the stuff that gets blocked.

[@ApeWithPants]

This is true regarding China. Chinese copyright, patent, and trademark laws are pretty lax, and so lots of IP from western companies get stolen by Chinese companies and used to make products for the Chinese market

[@117TheWolf]

As disturbing as it is, there’s a neat silver lining - we don’t need to be overly concerned with China overtaking the West and West-aligned Asian democracies, culturally or technologically. If they ever run out of ideas and designs to flagrantly steal and copy, they’ll stagnate horrendously.

[@pelleoh]

@@117TheWolf It's just the dying empire that's stagnated horrendously.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

China reverse engineers everything. Oculus/Facebook reality labs worked for almost a decade to bring us the quest 2 and all of a sudden China has one. I'll stick with my quest 2 and pc until a less shady company comes along and can actually compete with the horrible giants.

[@skychaos87]

If Facebook is an innovative and honorable company then i'd stand by them. But they are actually a terrible company that does hostile takeovers, sketchy practices, monopoly, misusing user data, screwing over their users and even has parts in influencing politics. I honestly don't feel bad for them at all.

[@urbnctrl]

top notch coverage of the VR, salute from a Dutch XR dev!

[@makii4166]

I’m almost certain that the new quest 2 drops are probably going to be some sort of body tracking, I bet that they would love to have a body tracking system that works for their headset, much like the other competitors.

[@squa_81]

8:13 Well, in the weastern view of the internet and china's view i think you missed another view of internet. That of a private, open internet, where user data commerce is obsolete, and privacy is regarded as a human right. So us eu and china views? (eu has the rgpd :) )

[@Aereto]

China particularly in data control for One Culture. US is data control to sell them out as intel. EU is data control so no one exchanges without formal agreements. We don't have a middle ground.

[@TristynRusselo]

VR was very tiring on me until I A) got glasses B) corrected my vison a bit, C) got a NEW prescription, D) ordered prescription VR lenses. it took about 6 months, 2 doctor visits, 2 sets of glasses, and a set of VR lenses, just to be comfortable for more than 20 min at a time. this is going to be a barrier to people who dont even realize their vision is poor, or cant afford to do anything about it.

[@luci4293]

You are the weakest link

[@ilovesalmon215]

either you wear glasses or you use prescription lenses why did you do both?

[@Afrancis16]

@@ilovesalmon215 probably got the glasses, realized it wasn’t comfortable, then got the lenses

[@Xighor]

@@luci4293 bruh what do you mean 75% of adults need some form of Correction They may need be severe They may just need them for reading, driving, just a slight correction, I personally need them without a doubt, got a strong prescription, my friend thought his eyes were fine told him to get his eyes check and turns out his vision was pretty poor Especially when you get older your eyes and hearing degrades

[@Xighor]

They need to some adjustment thing or at least provide a cheap service where you can buy lenses as those lessee known companies selling them are really expensive

[@cate01a]

Huh, damn. I thought this was gonna be some overblown clickbait but no this is honest and definitely noteworthy

[@tannerconnel3371]

Wow, that’s a strong statement. Let’s see if the video can defend it Edit: You talked about 2025 in the headset sales part of the video where some data shows that headsets sales could be up to 71 million at that point. Honestly, looking at some data you didn’t mention in the video, you might be right, not in a dystopian sense, but a social sense. Apple sold 72 million iPhones in 2011. The iPhone 4S (Siri) released that year, for some perspective.

[@cenciende9401]

Lol questioning Thrill as if he doesn't always have the data to back it up.

[@fsonetwork]

Whoa! It's a REAL Tuesday Newsday! So stoked!

[@jamiesmith2093]

thank you daddy thrill

[@carlosd8485]

I'm going to look back in 3 years and thank thrillseeker for this VR KZbin channel!!!

[@KaityKat117]

'Eeeeey! Congrats on actually making it by Tuesday! High five!

[@burningxnecro]

I wonder if the Chinese headset will be easier to root? Also, I had a thought the other day, after vaguely remembering hearing that the most expensive part of VR is the software so I thought, what if Valve released an open source VR headset operating system? The Steam Deck shows that they seem to be expanding/experimenting with portable hardware and if they did wouldn't that make it easier for smaller companies to produce stand alone VR headsets?

[@ebiccringe1420]

Okay, but will there ever be a Portal Vr?

[@SeanLumly]

The Metaverse will be as integrated as the internet in daily life!

[@nesyboi9421]

I hope not.

[@Thezuule1]

Which is why I assume the primary way to access it will be through AR not VR. Walking down a city street and seeing 3D imagery instead of billboards, Yelp reviews floating over businesses, a line drawn on the ground taking you to where you need to go, a button to hail an Uber appearing on command... all this while watching your favorite KZbin video floating on a screen that was previously attached to your living room wall, and the suddenly you get a request from Mom and she appears on the street next to you to chat. This is what it is imo, not being strapped into a VR headset 24/7. VR will have its place in the home and AR in the world. Eventually you'll have one set of shades that can do both maybe.

[@SeanLumly]

@@Thezuule1 They are similar, but likely will be used in VERY different ways. AR will be used to make life "better" (prettier, more productive, ads everywhere, virtual "companions", etc), and VR will be a complete escape (eg. gaming, remote teleportation). There will be a bit of overlap (eg. meetings)..

[@darknubent]

Yesterday I told my dad that VR isnt a joke. Give it a few years and people will probably be walking around with AR glasses that tell you anything you need to know around your life. I take some inspiration from sword art online: ordinal scale and scarlet nexus(kinda)

[@insert_rad_username_here]

That actually sounds cool. I read this book called Feed and it was set in the future where people had feeds which were an implant you get in your brain and it basically did what you described

[@crypticbait]

Funny enough I said the same thing early 2011 about self driving cars in development, he owns a tesla now

[@ek7713]

I've pretty much just lost interest in VR lately. Yes, the whole metaverse thing is just amazing for a lot of reasons, but currently it's being lead by some assholes who keep getting away with dangerous and untrustworthy behaviour. That's not just Meta/Facebook.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

A lot. Not alot.

[@ek7713]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M You're so cool, bet you get so much love and appreciation from your parents when you waste time correcting tiny mistakes in a random person's grammar :D

[@some_icedtea5205]

@@ek7713 angy

[@thelatenightnerd2851]

My uncle thought Vr was not realistic until he tried my headset when he was over. Know he’s getting a headset and computer that can run it. Had him try waltz the wizard, Skyrim Vr, fallout vr boneworks. So that’s cool

[@Jenson_Beach]

Oh man this is crazy. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm super excited. If it comes down to like china vs meta in terms of like big platforms to play games on and hangout in I hope that the player space wont be divided as well. Like how the playstation and xbox kinda are or Iphone vs android.

[@FlockofSmeagles]

You mean like western internet and eastern already are? Do some research. China be scary.

[@Thezuule1]

The Internet Wall of China is unlikely to come down anytime too soon.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

No, We need another non communist less shady company to make it big. META vs China? Hell no, China will be trying to sabotage or buy out META.. bad enough they clearly reverse engineered a quest 2 for their own headsets..

[@erglwrgl]

Yes the classic intro I have been seeing since 2019 ever since I watched your videos alot before getting the quest 1 for christmas, now I'm back 2 years later for the quest 2 at christmas lol

[@ZenTradeGame]

Love your videos!

[@ericapelz260]

China and Facebook are two sides of the same coin when it comes to the internet. I want hardware that isn't attached to any one service. Facebook might as well of changed their name to Skynet.

[@ericapelz260]

@@rangerkayla8824 the Terminator reference was the point.

[@Ygnkamii]

What did you think of after the fall

[@WolvenSwiftwind]

Turning off notifications for this post. To many people who know nothing about China except what they are told. Judging a country they clearly never been too, not worth my time to further argue with the ignorant. I just want to say, thank you so much for the fair and non bias reporting on China. Its hard to find someone that reports fairly on China. My wife is Chinese and says "If that video company is doing it, its just a start. Other companies like Tencent are sure to follow its example" She also liked the vid.Keep up the good work! Im happy there is competition to the quest. Hopefully we can see it in the states. I hate facebook and their greedy practices and Im not going to give them further information on a headset that I would pay for. If anything I can just get my wife to get it for me.

[@inkisblackiswhiteis1]

The Chinese government is literally cancer.

[@ZedDevStuff]

Tencent is prob the reason one of my favorite mobile games became pay to win with huge barriers for ftp players

[@fedyx1544]

@@inkisblackiswhiteis1 Chinese government is cancer in domestic policy, American government is cancer in foreign policy, pick your poison i guess

[@inkisblackiswhiteis1]

@@fedyx1544 lmao you're funny. China is awful domestic and foreign. You're literally not informed my boy. God bless the us compared to China.

[@fedyx1544]

​@@inkisblackiswhiteis1 lmao you're funny. The US invaded Iraq on completely made up charges and the US army is directly responsible for the deaths of one million Iraqi citizen. It is estimated that US military operations in the last 50 years alone have resulted in the death of around 6 million people, all the while leaked info from whistleblowers consistently reports how US drone strikes and hit civilian targets 9/10 times. All the while in the last 50 years China's foreign policy has literally amounted to bitching about Taiwan, South China Sea and other territorial claims, squabble with India with max a few hundred deaths and put african states into debt (which the US does as well through the IMF). You're literally not informed my boy. God bless China's foreign policy compared to the US's.

[@MinosML]

Hey Thrill could you make a video (or at least a topic on next news video) on The Verge's Interview with Keanu Reeves & Carrie-Anne Moss on making The Matrix Awakens (UE5 Tech Demo)? That video had some really fucking great commentary about VR, the Metaverse and the exiting/scary future of tech from Keanu that I think deserves a lot more attention than what is currently getting. So much great stuff and just another proof of Keanu being an absolute blessing like always.

[@aquawolf03]

I can't wait to get my quest 2, so I can finally do vr stuff in college

[@neto135791]

QOTW: What you think about companies selling virtual lands and renting places in the metaverse. Doesn’t this sound kinda silly?

[@pUbErtYy_49]

Oh hell nah. That better not happen

[@some_icedtea5205]

Hehe I nuking their servers If they do.

[@xlpizza007]

Sounds similar to the NFT bs already going around

[@mr.skeleton5536]

If someone put in time and effort to create a digital space for you to hang out in, you are buying media at that point. Like buying a game, except you just walk around in it and maybe some other things. I feel like I just described walking simulators, could there be a connection?

[@cherryfruit5492]

Hey Thrill, any news on Arpara? I saw they sent you a review unit I'm eager to see your thoughts.

[@JohnnyB.]

They’re betting on people running from reality, which I guess if you make the real world seem bad enough, a lot of people would probably look into it… I love VR, but isn’t the “metaverse” just another MMORPG? On a new console? It seems like with these companies trying to take so much ownership of it, I feel they’re making it seem like an entire second universe. I understand a lot of people will spend lots of time in the metaverse, but ask me how many hours I have on Skyrim lmao love the videos Thrill, my opinion matches yours, and I’m happy you’re here to be our voice! Keep up the great videos.

[@maxinatortk]

Reminds me of the Second Life craze, which basically failed. This is just a second try at this concept with a VR interface added.

[@theInsaneRodent]

@@maxinatortk yes. That is exactly what it is. Second Life attempted to create the metaverse without having VR. According to Wikipedia, it is sometimes cited as being the first metaverse (no clue on the accuracy of that). VRChat appears to be making a better go at it, but I was pretty young when Second Life was new, so maybe I just don't have the correct insight. I think Second Life attempted to aggressively monetize their world. I know IBM had a virtual presence in it at some point.

[@cenciende9401]

'seem'? The real world is a shit hole, particularly in second world countries like america and china which are just opposite ends of the same anus.

[@Zeieraoh]

not running. sleeping. not bad, but boring. the world.

[@knyt0]

where's the full video of that arpara marketing video?

[@spaghettistudios7758]

This sounds a little sus by looking at the tittle

[@nesyboi9421]

That spelling of title is awefully sus

[@maika8535]

I can't believe it, Tuesday newsday actually out on Tuesday

[@BigBo737]

Not to be harsh but China will never “lead”. As always they are really good at “copying” and releasing stuff for a cheaper price. They just very good at “copying” not inventing. Look at all the products/services that come from China. It’s always a copy from something without anything new.

[@ANGELROB_YTC]

Actually China does a bit of both they do a lot of copying for their own country but they do make chips and stuff for abroad this is why some stuff can't leave China and other stuff can stuff that infringes intellectual property can't be sold abroad stuff that doesn't can have you ever seen a Chinese car no all their cars are fake copies don't meet western standards

[@cenciende9401]

Wrong. Don't get me wrong it used to be that way, but I am personally involved in multiple industries where Chinese companies have in the last few years stepped up and are the ones leading in innovations and progression in their products, dominating the western market. People like you not paying attention are going to find yourselves bulldozed.

[@BigBo737]

@@cenciende9401 Sure man. You can easily proof me wrong with examples of actual products that are originally coming from China. Just something that is totally original not a knockoff with a twist. China is king in copy and copyright infringement. They don’t play by the rules but at the same time they are massively throwing patents for all kinds of minimalistic change and sell it as innovation to block others from using it.

[@midnightacegamer4416]

isn't the metaverse just for oculus 2 anyway? that would make it limited tho right?

[@Ratteler]

Facebook is evil. We all know it, but we can do something about it. We can make a different computer that fit into the quest to headsets. Let Facebook subsidize the hardware we can't use and let's make an open-source community of 3D that we can use the headsets for. Instead of their computer we can make our own.

[@super_zero_62]

Bro its finally Tuesday good job

[@SnepBlepVR]

Hey thrillseekers im sure thrill will cover this; but quest day was well; kinda lame. Definitely felt rushed. There was maybe 8000 participants and only 6 give outs none of which where actually tech and very few people actually got their hands on them because of bot scalpers.

[@Thezuule1]

I only wanted that stupid ugly sweater lol.

[@warmachine6620]

Competition is GREAT for consumers and pushes the bounds of innovation. As some one who's been slowly, but surely moving away from console gaming and more towards PC and VR gaming, I am definitely excited for the future of VR/AR gaming and the technological advances that come along with it.

[@judy3827]

it's pretty cool that you cover what's going on in china as well, I like seeing the whole picture of vr

[@AZCOASTFUSION]

YES please do some reviews and videos with the varjo xr3 as im currently talking with the gents from the sales dept to close the deal on mine!

[@ang_jacks3689]

get this man to 1mil. loved the vid looking foward for more!

[@pinstripe7839]

Thrill! I've been waiting on your Arpara review! My email inbox is flooded with the 53% off early adopter discount and I don't know whether to go for it or not. Need some input. What do you think of it? The AIO worth snagging?

[@souporwormgaming]

"Now this is what Ready Player 2 should've been," *Nervous laughter*

[@D0HERRITT]

I love that timestamps don't exist for these types of videos anymore thank you very helpful

[@malcolmgruber8165]

XR is super exciting. And the way things are merging towards that from both a XR and recreating people for XR content direction has me super excited. Leaps and bounds in changes are being made.

[@TheGoldenDragonDev]

If there is multiple Metaverses, there is no Metaverse, by definition. A Metaverse is where everything in the internet is, and that can’t be possible if multiple companies own it. I personally think that eventually, all these “Metaverses” will be connected by one party, and make one massive Metaverse

[@chris1549]

I really really hope valve gets a vr come back very fast. We know what they are capable of with designing the steam deck.

[@wendybeech4122]

When will we see something else about the hp reverbe g2 again?

[@JacobJacobson88]

amazing 2nd half of video d00d. kudos to you

[@adamx9065]

You made it seem like the Gabe Newell talk just happened, but that was back in May. Had you missed it? Or just forgot until now?

[@Verociity]

Is the XR-3 masking tool only for XR-3?

[@chillierark6464]

I cant believe I graduate in 2025. Hearing you say "shockingly only 3 years away" really brought me back to reality

[@giligan1004]

Wednesday Newsday title card had me looking at my calendar like whaaaaaaaa

[@HmmBird311]

What's the context of virtual land? Is it like looking at a map and saying you own those pixels or is it like a game where you can walk around it?

[@Strange_Looking_Thing]

Hey Thrillseeker I’m planning on getting a valve index what should I expect?

[@yharimthejudge]

7:53 hey does anyone know the name of this game? i've been looking for it but i kept forgetting the name of it