VR Just Got WAY Easier! Canon RF 5.2mm L Dual Fisheye

[@ViciousXUSMC]

Might get this still if I can edit without the software subscription. I flipped thru and have answers to two of the questions you had. The reason for the focus screw is so that both lenses can be in perfect focus together. The center dual adjust them both so if one is a bit off for any reason you need that to bring them back to true. Second, minimum focus distance is not from the lens, but from the sensor. So that adds a bit more distance than you were expecting it to be.

[@hughhou]

Nice good job! Should check out our review of this lens in the EOS VR system as well and the post-production workflow.

[@lensprotogo]

Thanks! Will do!

[@rupertchappelle5303]

Lenses have to be closer together for close up work to minimize eye crossing. They have teased a version with close lenses. What we really need is a good 3D camera like the old JVCs - zoom, auto convergence in a consumer friendly form. 180 gives you more than you need.

[@nikasio1990]

The screw allows for adjustment of slightly misaligned focus of the right versus the left lens. [edit] nice video, thanks for putting up! 🙂

[@Seeitmove]

THANK YOU, for a very usefully informative and well put together intro to this tool. Appreciated!

[@mikegrok]

That is much nicer than having two DSLRs on a Door hinge. Close the hinge and the cameras are bottom to bottom facing the same way, open the hinge, and you can replace the batteries.

[@sandyculbertson2236]

I am very green but just asking questions so I don't bombard my son who is very excited about this lens. Can you print from the video or take shots with this lens not just using it for video. I think fish eyes are so cool and this just solidifies that in my head even more.

[@lconnolly18]

Cool video!

[@hi55us2]

Thanks for the info! I've been researching more about VR videos with the Apple Vision pro coming out next year. Is there a way to export just one eye for viewing the content on a non VR device?

[@federicoanzini7888]

hi, could you share a clip for testing? After all, are they workable to add effects?

[@vgmnair9123]

What more additional benefit one can get from this lens and camera than the Fuji FinePix REAL 3D W3?

[@ILoveTeles]

When shooting in 60fps, what’s the highest resolution supported?

[@MaxKosenko]

Screw for the right lens focus is to align them and make equal, because over time it goes off.

[@mrchrischong]

I just picked up this lens and have an R5c but very green to the VR world. It has been hard to find easy info on it. Would I be able to contact you with some questions and help on getting started? Great video!

[@Iphixel]

Would u recommend it? Im also ‘very green’ but this looks great.

[@adampatterson]

At first I was confused why the L and R were reversed, then I remembered the image is flipped on the sensor. But I feel like Canon could accommodate for that so it's not so strange.

[@gaips]

Can you use the Ninja V+ with this lens?

[@VRcation]

You'll want to prioritize frame rate when shooting for headsets. no reason to shoot 24p when you can very easily do 30fps. "cinematic" means nothing in this medium, also handheld shooting is a really bad idea (especially without stabilization) You're better off with something from insta360 or vuze if you're shooting handheld - this lens and camera setup really needs to be on sticks or very slow gimbal movement. I’ll be headed to a few zoos soon with this Canon setup!

[@lensprotogo]

Check out Monday's video when it comes out, I've learned a lot since just this morning!

[@VRcation]

@@lensprotogo Looking forward to it! I just got the lens and R5 a couple of days ago lol, I was originally going to rent it from lensprotogo, but I guess I was too impatient.

[@VRcation]

@@lensprotogo Did some testing and there actually is a way to shoot "handheld" without it making the viewer sick. Might make a tutorial on it eventually

[@wtfnahmean]

@@VRcation very interested in knowing that! I'm thinking of getting the R5/VR kit for outdoor shooting. R5C is also a consideration but it seems way too finicky now. By the way do you use IBIS for VR on your R5?

[@SilvaLiningPhotography]

Once video is exported via Canon VR software how do you send it to Headsets or KZbin? I need VR videos on KZbin often

[@smfknj6010]

Awesome video! Any way you might be able to share some RAW files?

[@mavfan1]

When a camera manufacturer states the focus distance they mean from the plane of the sensor, not from the front of the lens. You'll see a small circle with a line through it printed on the top of the camera body. That is the location of the sensor.

[@UkrozaVR]

I've watched the video with Oculus quest on, and the quallity is rather poor. Is it becouse of youtube compression or it as good as it gets?

[@vgmnair9123]

Is the software provided by Canaon can make MPO format files?

[@vgmnair9123]

Is there any facility to change the stereo base? Can we take stereo still images or it works only in video?

[@norbertholzmann8653]

Yes, you can grab still images and stich them with the Cannon VR Utilities.

[@funkmasterfong]

I am in Tokyo. I want to buy this to create VR content to run eye tracking experiments using iMotion eye tracking analysis software. iMotion wants to make sure that videos produced by RF5.2mm F2.8 L Dual Fisheye Lens + R5 will work with their system. Is it possible to have a link to one of the video samples you showed, the actual footage, not youtube. Then I can test it to prove that the video is compatible. - Sorry for the trouble and thanks in advance.

[@jacksonfamily1000]

What format do I use to export to KZbin?

[@norbertholzmann8653]

H.256 @ mp4

[@StoneDesignsChannel]

If shooting an 8k video, is the output with this lens 8k quality? Or since it is shooting with two "lenses", is each lens' image 4k quality?

[@CollinAbroadcast]

I'd imagine both are 4k to add up to 8k so you get an overall 4k quality output at 180 degrees. Kinda how the insta360 uses 5.7k all around to produce a 1080p final output. I may be wrong though

[@ViciousXUSMC]

It's 8k video for the full frame. The frame is cut in half immediately as it's two images. But common mistake here. 8K is not double 4K. 8K is 4x bigger than 4K because it's double the horizontal and vertical resolution. We are only cutting the horizontal resolution in half so think 6K (not true 6k just a mental analogy) However we also do not have half the frame to work with because a large part of the image has no light. Casting two circles on a rectangle sensor. So you lose more resolution their as well. The last thing to keep in mind is that pretty much nothing captured by this lens will ever be viewed 1:1 as is, it will be stretched and warped to fix the perspective. Doing this will enlarge parts of the image making it's resolution artificially higher and potentially shrinking parts near the center. This is the issue filming with only two super wide angle cameras compared to say a 360 camera that has 8+ sensors and keep each image relatively in the correct perspective. Basically your can't exactly use the final products resolution as a metric of 4k or 8k in a traditional sense. It will just be an approximate with varying degrees of original pixel density depending where you are looking in 3D space. That's why 180VR is all about having your main subject right in the center and everything else is just "ambience" Personally for me id prefer a single lens 180 video for double the resolution. It won't be stereo scopic but will be double the quality and is perfect for interactive content on your phone or computer monitor.

[@DriftaholiC]

I hope Sony copies this.

[@z352kdaf8324]

And it looks like this Fall 2023 it will get easier yet! Glad I saved my $ and skipped Canon. Even the summer sale price of the lens at $1299 new couldn't get me to bite.. Still need a $4k body that can't do 60fps on internal battery.

[@JoeJunky123]

what is going to be released this fall ? :)

[@JoeJunky123]

Do you talk about the Insta360 EVO / Canon consumer VR concept camera or do i not noticed another release :D

[@z352kdaf8324]

@@JoeJunky123 teche 3d 180, and calf 3d 180.

[@JoeJunky123]

thanks buddy@@z352kdaf8324 the cald 3d 180 looks very interessing. Do you have any experience with the company? Never heard of them (living in germany)

[@4mlove]

Will this lens work on the Canon R5C??

[@driftwoodpictures]

Yes it will :)

[@ProgrammistMusic]

from what i have seen so far, even with the R5C in 8k60 (not on KZbin) the quality isn't good enough with this lens.

[@gustavomello278]

DO NOT BUY IT! IT REQUIRES A MONTHLY OR ANNUAL PAID SUBSCRIPTION TO EXTRACT THE VIDEO FILES!!!

[@mavfan1]

this is only true for videos more than a few minutes. Plus, if you are a professional you are (hopefully) making enough money that you can build the cost into what you charge your clients.

[@Psyclonus7]

I was gonna buy this but no one gives a shit about VR much anymore. Totally a shame too

[@norbertholzmann8653]

We need more quality content.

[@SuperPhunThyme100]

Am I the only one not interested in VR filmmaking or just VR anything in general? I feel like this is eventually going to go the way of 3D TV. Point in case, people don't want to wear stuff on their face just to watch things.

[@JoeJunky123]

I thought the same, but i think the VR contect is just not good enough. When i think about the possibilities which can be perfomaned on VR, the classic filmmaking is going to be outdated

[@mavfan1]

No, you're not.