The Hopeless Game You Need To Play

Nothing seems easier, clearer, and more obvious than choosing who to vote for. We’ve done it for thousands of years across cultures ranging from Ancient Greek city-states to tribal democracies in the Americas. And now that we’re about to elect a President of KZbin, it’s time to look at how complex seemingly-simple decision theory can really be.
When you decide whether to dive head first into the Whang! Gang or sign your life over to the The Cult of Pebbles, you’re going through a process that involves multiple behavioral paradoxes, quirks of game theory, and… even the same sort of problem when you and your friends try to figure out where to eat.
The deeper you go into the analysis, the harder it becomes. You can focus too much on trivial things. You can invent differences that might not even be there. You can get wrapped up in outside emotion and ignore what’s right in front of you… yet you emerge confident that you know exactly what you want for yourself and everyone else.
In a way, it’s a hopeless game we have to play. But we get a little smarter and a little better every time.
Thanks to Whang! and psychicpebbles for their selfless commitment to public service as we all endeavor to improve our great KZbin Nation:
Whang!: / whangwhangwhang
Pebbles: / psychicpebbles
** SOURCES **
Marquis de Condorcet, “Foundations of Social Choice and Political Theory” (1793): www.amazon.com...
Jones, Bradford, et al. “Condorcet Winners and the Paradox of Voting: Probability Calculations for Weak Preference Orders.” The American Political Science Review, vol. 89, no. 1, 1995, pp. 137-144. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/....
Cargile, James. “The Sorites Paradox.” The British Journal for the Philosophy of Science, London, Vol. 20, N. 1, May 1969
Guerrero, Alexander. “The Paradox of Voting and the Ethics of Political Representation.” Philosophy & Public Affairs, vol. 38, no. 3, 2010, pp. 272-306: www.jstor.org/...
Börgers, Tilman. “Costly Voting.” The American Economic Review, vol. 94, no. 1, 2004, pp. 57-66. JSTOR, https:/www.jstor.org/stable/3592769
Bradberry, Brent A. “A Geometric View of Some Apportionment Paradoxes.” Mathematics Magazine, vol. 65, no. 1, 1992, pp. 3-17. www.jstor.org/...
Neubauer, Michael G., and Margo G. Gartner. “A Proposal for Apportioning the House.” PS: Political Science and Politics, vol. 44, no. 1, 2011, pp. 77-79. www.jstor.org/...
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[@KyrieFortune]

"Technically, you'd die from dehydration first" That means the thirst bar empties faster, solved, drink first

[@brettjenkins1645]

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking right now. The indecision would cease as soon as the thirst outweighed the hunger. Almost instantaneously if the rate of hunger and thirst accelerate differently

[@_ruted]

you eat first food has water present in it

[@KyrieFortune]

@@_ruted so, watermelon?

[@NotaPlagueDoctor300]

Alternative answer:drink bagel bites and eat mountain dew..solved

[@Sentient_Blob]

Rage of ores The pizza bagels are very salty, they would increase your thirst levels

[@kjoc70]

"Well, technically, dehydration first." I guess that answers whether you should eat or drink first.

[@Knightway1]

@Fernando the MI HOY MINOY I saw it change in front of my eyes

[@therainbowknight]

Yeah that's what I thought

[@RedRad1990]

And as always, thanks for waaaa- not so fast!

[@amayurubashaka3608]

@Maximal's Personal Profile Yeah but still, you would have more time to eat the food later than drink and you might not get as much water as you need from the food.

[@GoldieDoggy]

@Maximal's Personal Profile but if it is between a drink and salty food (like the bagel bites), it's better to drink than make yourself even more thirsty

[@Deathnotefan97]

"Well technically (you die) of dehydration first" That's exactly why if you are equally both hungry _and_ thirsty, you drink first

[@rainydeestar]

Eating food is easier

[@Deathnotefan97]

​@@rainydeestar It takes much longer for the body to process food than it does drink And eating is not easier than drinking, you gotta chew when you eat, but when drinking you only have to swallow

[@rainydeestar]

@@Deathnotefan97 Idk, if i was in that situation, I would see that first I would have to open the bottle And so, first I would put the food in my mouth, and then open the bottle and drink

[@puckie643]

@@rainydeestar But you also have to move the food aaaall the way to your mouth and then chew it What kinda logic is that lmao

[@rainydeestar]

@@puckie643 The time I open the bottle, I would have already stuffed something in my mouth

[@JustinWhangYt]

Haven't finished the video yet but I'm assuming I won

[@stashthevampede9480]

Hah!

[@bigmangabe]

Even if you lose pretend you win no matter what.

[@Markovian_]

Whang! Well you got my vote!

[@l0serb0i]

Hey Whang! My wife loves your videos...wait

[@theunholybanana4745]

Whang Gang for the win!

[@Vijwal]

Vsause: or is it? Vsause2: Right? *WRONG*

[@steveliu9995]

Vsause 2: Right? Wrong. Vsauce: Or is it?

[@gearbreaker9645]

Vsauce2 slogan right there

[@mellylivestreams2008]

you forgot vsauce 3

[@datboyace13]

I don't know why I started hearing that little inquisitive jingle that plays as soon as he says "or is it?"

[@FenrizNNN]

How about Vsauce 4? We don't talk about that here

[@someone-dv4yv]

“Do i eat or drink” “You have access to both of them, they’re right in front of you”

[@lumihasmilk]

r/technicallythetruth

[@aionair77]

I don't have this problem...😀

[@manyworldsin1]

Food contains water. Water does not contain food. You will also retain water better if you eat first and then drink water, Assuming you are not so dehydrated that swallowing would be injurious.

[@BIastoises]

@@manyworldsin1 unless someone else drinks that water and the food in their mouth goes to that water

[@godsleftcheek]

@@manyworldsin1 mountain dew has tons of calories

[@117johnpar]

The fact that Zack didnt go for the "listen here fat" shtick upsets me to my core.

[@Duenschissdoktor]

look fat come on fat

[@AxxLAfriku]

One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no KZbinr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear hara

[@goosebumper88]

@@Duenschissdoktor We'll do push ups, jumping jacks, run a marathon, organize a militia, go on a date, kiss passionately. Whatever you want to do, I'll prove I'm fit

[@MLG_1738]

"And I'll tell you something else"

[@Hal9000ize]

@@AxxLAfriku WHYWHYWHYWHYWHY You're getting nervous man!

[@lotoa3383]

Vsauce: "Hotelling's law" Me: "looks like it's something they discovered studying hotels" Vsauce: "... By economist Harold Hotelling" Me: oh..

[@Kre8-1duH]

Exactly me too lol

[@ElijahJD1126]

Exactly my thought process.

[@jamesalewis]

I've heard it explained... using actual hotels... so I was already familiar, just not with the knowledge that it's the guy's name

[@crimxon_falcon6922]

Same

[@william7yifans]

@@jamesalewis The way I understand it is that if you told two people to guess a number between 1 and 100, in order, optimal choice dictates that the first person chooses 50/51 and the second person chooses the other, and any other number will yield you a sub 50% chance of winning. If each customer counts as one of the numbers, then rather than probability it can represent the population you cover

[@corruptedsmurf260]

Years ago, a customer told me about the 5-2-1 method of decision making. In this context, it was for deciding where to eat. His wife would list 5 restaurants, he would pick 2 of those 5, then she would pick 1 of the last 2. Always wondered how that would pan out in an election...

[@sswpp8908]

Goblins are severely underrepresented in government which is why Zach has my vote.

[@StrattonDraws]

Ted Cruz needs a friend

[@Rickety3263]

GLM!

[@ptr4410]

Trump made an official statement on h3's pod that he will ban goblins and witches which is atrocious and must be looked into. I vote for Zach to undermine these racist preconceptions.

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

idon'tevenknowanymore based?

[@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929]

@@cantrememberwhatimdoin I knew a kid who went to my school, they had green skin. He also had no ears, or ear holes. Yeah, he was pretty strange, not as strange as one of the other classmates I had, but still strange.

[@WolfeSpeider]

Remember, a vote for Zach is a vote for Worm Odyssey. So basically this is a no-brainer.

[@archedzero4398]

All I want to know is, what is his explanation for the shortage of pokemon cards and sonic the hedgehog figures in our country

[@MikesBigWorkshop]

@@archedzero4398 That was Cory's doing.

[@connorbiel]

layne staley 👌🏼

[@louismei5695]

0:40 - Decision-theory paradox by Jean Buridan 4:48 - Hotelling's Law by Harold Hotelling 6:33 - C. Northcote Parkinson problem by C. Northcote Parkinson 7:13 - "Tyanny of Small Decisions" by Alfred E. Khan 7:25 - Sayre's Law by Wallace Stanley Sayre 9:18 - "Abilene Paradox" by Jerry B. Harvey 9:41 - Arrow's Impossibility Theorem by Kenneth J. Arrow 10:42 - Greek Sorites Paradox (Unknown author) 11:19 - Anthony Down's Paradox of Voting by Anthony Downs 11:27 - Apportionment Paradox by Peyton Young and Michel Balinski 11:34 - Population Paradox (Unknown author) 11:43 - Hans-Werner Sinn's 'Green Paradox' by Hans-Werner Sinns

[@kiwifruit2245]

thanks

[@ccuny1]

10:22 The Condorcet Paradox (Nicolas de Condorcet).

[@ruilindeng4301]

Man really did a Works Cited page for Vsauce

[@psychicpebbles]

ermmm i better landslide

[@Hal9000ize]

I'm leaking worm odyssey and you can't stop me

[@Pleasestoptalkingthanks]

Erm, you better slide on that belly first little mister

[@HarryWuzHere]

erm indeed

[@godawful5600]

when is the live debate between you and Whang?

[@SPAMMAN123456789]

Goblins have been under the boot of KZbin for TOO LONG!

[@vertigo1372]

Just dip the bagel bites in the Mountain Dew. Problem solved.

[@greenscreengamer8008]

Your profile makes this so much better

[@judejohnson3668]

Right? WRONG!

[@jamesstanley6613]

But do you dip the bagel bites in the mountain dew, or pour the mountain dew on the bagel bites?

[@shaun1446]

Vsauce:listin here you little smarty

[@shaun1446]

There are 2 gas stores and you are hungry 1 has low gas price but high food price the other one has low food price but high gas prices which gas store will you chose

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

This perfectly explains the effectiveness of "sleeping on it". By allowing yourself to take a step back, and forgetting the details, it allows you to actually make the choice easier. Not saying it'll be better, I don't know that, but easier.

[@varvaramir]

Kevin be like: "1+1 is 2. right? WRONG!!!

[@avinashkumar2411]

It's 10 in binary btw.

[@nicolastorres147]

Well, it could be 0 in Z/2Z

[@anawesomepet]

It’s 1.9999999999999 repeating.

[@peckychicken]

Someone once proved it and it took them 362 pieces of paper

[@God-gi9iu]

Oo

[@IamtheSun100]

I’m gonna be completely honest, Zach could say he plans on making a death ray to melt the ice caps and kill ALL polar bears and I’d still vote for him

[@justangelathegamer]

499 likes and no reply? Let me fix that

[@simarkarmani4034]

I wouldn't

[@planet4170]

Kevin's kids: 1) „I ate the last cookie right? WRONG!“ 2) „I have to go to the dentist right? WRONG! 3)...right? WRONG! continue if u have better examples

[@alisonabrooks]

I have to stop playing Xbox? Right? WRONG!

[@pigman6954]

I got in trouble at school? Right? WRONG!

[@yipp-7841]

I did my homework right? WRONG

[@anthonyjarvis6037]

When kevin’s kids grow up You did your homework, right? WRONG! You did your chores, right? WRONG! You ate your vegetables, right? WRONGGGG!!!!

[@pussinboots9983]

Am I adopted, right? WRONG! *starts crying*

[@Mauripsu]

"Technically dehadration first" Then drink first

[@randomtori1878]

Yeah and there's plenty of calories in the mountain dew

[@58mph48]

Mountain dew contains excessive amounts of sodium, sugar, and caffeine. Each of these (especially sodium) take water to metabolize/offset, meaning drinking the mountain dew could mean death coming even sooner. The bagel, bites, on the other hand, were previously frozen, meaning the moisture in them is all on the top. Almost all food has moisture as almost all sugary drinks have calories.

[@Mauripsu]

@@58mph48 Just drink the MD and after that eat the bagels

[@kari548]

But there's sauce in the bites

[@Mauripsu]

@Patrick Schmalstig 58 mph is Vsauce's alt and none of us know

[@ronswanson1704]

Just with the fact that Zach is hiding one Tomar Emerald in his greasy grasps means that he will undoubtedly win.

[@sabotabo7476]

Hadel chuckled. “You mean the Tomar Emeralds?”

[@Joe_Potts]

Vote for Madness OR Cheese?? Why not both?! Vote for the Daedric Prince Sheogorath!!!!

[@grugthecaveman4565]

“Go Green and Retired” Vote PsychicPebbles

[@Kascaded]

Always remember that he is green and retired.

[@BunnLilah]

@@Kascaded But also remember the extremely important fact that he is retired and green.

[@Kascaded]

Plinko Penguin indeed, it is important to take note that he in in fact GREEN and he is also RETIRED.

[@scarletbard6511]

You three seem to be forgetting the fact that this individual is entirely green, as well as retired.

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

Cult of Pebbles. He will ensure I am looked after, when I am green and retired.

[@Scarecrow2140]

he will guarantee the tomar emeralds are found and put in the hands of our goblin overlord

[@chrisiscool]

"Whould you eat or drink?" Me, who just putted the food in my mouth at same time as i am drinking water : wha?

[@maxrona137]

Kevin: Eat Bagel Bites or Drink Mountain Dew? 4 out of 5 doctors: NO!

[@Bradex.]

How many doctors did you ask? A lot and cherry picked the best group?

[@BattletoDeath]

The greatest collab I've ever seen.

[@swansonjoe7121]

So happy to see kevin call Zach a goblin is all I needed

[@gaganzanwar]

For me second greatest the greatest is Infinity Was

[@peckychicken]

Vsauce: "hm eat or drink?" Me: "just do both"

[@sohangchopra6478]

Exactly, that's what O thought too!

[@CsanadCzToth]

MS is a 34 years old male presenting to the emergency room because he ate sushi at Kevin's Gas Station.

[@GeneralNuisance00]

Oh god not again

[@hamiltonmcgregory3179]

A man broke his pinky toe this is how he went blind

[@shinren_]

Very underrated comment hahabab

[@ivanmegafanboy1981]

This is what happened to his spleen

[@Eliza513E]

*Chubbyemu intensifies*

[@Tytoalba777]

“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for everything else we’ve tried.

[@theamazingcj2748]

Every time Kevin says "WRONG" I'm reminded of the Spongebob episode where he learns to make a krabby patty. It was one of my favorite episodes as a kid and idk why.

[@onlookerofthings6029]

Pretty much everyone agrees the Krusty Krab Training Video episode is one of the best

[@SrSeed]

Seems like Zach got lost and ended up here. Poor little fella... Hope he manages to survive this winter.

[@Pleasestoptalkingthanks]

He’s a corpse now

[@possessedaerosol8343]

William See no he’s just molting

[@nh8489]

3:21 Nobody: Kevin: "I've got gas!"

[@Guardrailkid]

Me whenever i eat beans

[@freds_chess]

loolololollololololololololollollloloooooololollooololoollololololoolloll9l9lolololololololo

[@mind-gap2020]

the possibility of experiments with this is ... amazing

[@rootboyfloat]

I cried at the pebbles speech, truly inspirational .

[@soberhippie]

"Choose Wisely"??? But Wisely is not on the candidate list Another of my dad jokes. I'm getting good at it

[@v0id_slayer]

soberhippie indeed you are. My dad actually started laughing.

[@ethantoal42]

Hi getting good at it, I'm Ethan.

[@yourmorningsht8538]

IQ

[@ViratKohli-jj3wj]

@@ethantoal42 Hi Ethan, I am dad

[@freds_chess]

@@ViratKohli-jj3wj hi dad, I'm dad

[@AliAhmad-yi8ss]

I love the ,“right? WRONG!!!!!”

[@doggoincorporated3686]

Me: says something Vsauce: WRONG

[@Mentally_Will]

Jeez, who had "Whang and Zach as guests in a Vsauce video" on their "weird 2020 stuff" bingo card?

[@DAndyLord]

I had Whang and Zach Anner. So close.

[@Idunno-b8g]

I did. For all my squares. I have ultra bingo right now. Still waiting for my ultra bingo prize.

[@thedude5295]

I had Ron Jeremy and Mark-Paul Gosselaar. So close.

[@john_john_john]

Oh he chose a bunch of wholesome youtubers... *Shows ssoyoung* Oh, an animal torturer, I see.

[@VZPZ]

Isn't ssoyoung the muk banger who tortures the live animals she eats and laughs about it...?

[@pentilex4338]

Yeah pretty based

[@birdman217]

@@jjb0nks I think eating an intelligent animal alive is different than killing an animal instantly

[@Pupqet]

@@birdman217 She also enjoys it and laughs about it ffs

[@exilley2134]

Bruh that’s kind of normalized in the world... not the “torturing animals and laughing about it”, but the terrible conditions those animals are put through before they’re eaten. Besides, preparing and consuming live animals is a cultural tradition with very deep roots. If you want Ssoyoung to stop for good, it’s gonna take a social reform of the largest scale possible across all of Korea. Do some more research next time, yeah?

[@exilley2134]

Tusk Act 4 Animals in slaughter houses ain’t exactly given the best living conditions either...

[@dignelberrt]

Isn't Ssoyoung the woman who was inhumanely decapitating squids and brutalizing animals

[@typhoonzebra]

I don't know but if she isn't, she's not doing enough to separate her image.

[@skyborne01]

Yes she is. Absolutely disgusting

[@zyaicob]

She's horrible what was he thinking bringing attention to her

[@Shampoid]

@@zyaicob to make her look worse

[@Miguel-yh7le]

Grungus In the ranking part he put her at last

[@thebrazilianluigi2142]

Why tf is ssoyung an candidate she eats living cute octopuses that just wanted to live their life in peace

[@donk5058]

Yes because that octopus definitely wouldn’t have been shark food if not eaten by her

[@thebrazilianluigi2142]

@@donk5058 I think being eaten by her is at least 10x worse

[@ThePeaterBeater]

@@donk5058 so it’s okay to remove it from nature and eat it live while it’s out of water bc otherwise they would stay a part of the ocean ecosystem?

[@eyeballqueenofrats]

at least sharks don’t skin animals alive and throw salt on the skinless alive creatures to watch them thrash in pain before eating them

[@thebrazilianluigi2142]

@@eyeballqueenofrats Also most of the time its reef sharks, aka even if a shark gets the octopus it wont kill it most of the time. Also even if it loses an arm it can regenerate with time. I completely agree with you, too.

[@TheJudoJoker]

Whang wasn't my first choice, but there's no way I'm letting Pebbles have another term after "the incident"

[@jeddicus9916]

You mean the largest shooting in history that was carried out by a goblin, that Pebbles EVEN NOW refuses to comment on?

[@adamtopher3633]

Sshhhh!! We don't mention the... *Looks both directions and whispers* the incident.

[@stylesmarshall6990]

The cult of pebbles has cheese. Is this even a question?

[@drippylad3973]

Yes. Which Cheese?

[@aesthetic4270]

@@drippylad3973 any

[@nyashaavrilchikowore7032]

@@aesthetic4270 I thought you were dead

[@thaias9654]

If you have more than a thousand subscribers and want to not participate in a battle royal then yes

[@SoybeanInTheMilk]

Implying the other one doesn’t have cheese as well? You see, this is how the cult got you.. I should pick up their strategies..

[@kazavali2029]

their is probably a paradox that says that I should exist, but here I am now...

[@alyssum3143]

Honestly, the goblin man has me roped in with his promise to protect government officials from all sexual assault allegations. Not only that but his idea to separate people based on IQ really struck me as a good idea.

[@Stettafire]

IQ is a terrible measure of intelligence

[@kugelblitzingularity304]

'Be selfish when making decisions', got it

[@SiMeGamer]

Not saying you didn't mean it positively, but just in case, here's a little breakdown of what selfishness means in the context of decision making. If your family is very important to you and you want them to enjoy themselves more than whatever other alternatives you have, then it would be selfish to facilitate their enjoyment. Selfishness is a very misunderstood concept that is usually applied wrongly(?) in cases of egomania. Helping others is selfish more often than not. Being a teacher or donating to a charity is usually done because you value what you do. Not because you a ethically obligated. That's what teachers are. They are selfish. They teach others because they love doing that. I personally love teaching and have been a tutor many times without pay because I simply wanted to and found it extremely fun. People don't help others because they believe in the idea of helping others being the right ethical choice (most of the time). Helping others selflessly is idiotic because it has no rational referent in reality. It's an ethically fallacious decision because altruism as a leading ethic (sadly the leading ethic in most of the world) is fundamentally fallacious. It has no basis outside of faith (why is sacrificing values for others' sake the right choice? The answer is always "because it is" and not because there is an actual reason - there isn't). Always be rationally selfish. Always do what you value the most. If it's to play a video game or help a friend in need, ultimately the best choice is the selfish one. The one you value the most. And if you value your friends, helping them would usually take precedent and you will be extremely happy with your choice because the value gained is greater than the one from the video game. Sometimes it's the opposite. Introspect and refer back to past decisions to be able to make choices faster and see if they were indeed the right ones. As for the video, it deals with indecisions usually lead by perfectionist mindsets. If there is no clear cut choice and it would take too long to make a decision, just flip a coin or go with what's good enough. Read "The Paradox of Choice" for more on that topic. Great book that will help you a ton if you are a perfectionist or deal in pretty much any avenue - especially business of consumer goods and services. So go out there and be rationally selfish. It will take you far and make you happier than ever :]

[@josefanon8504]

@@SiMeGamer love your reply even though nothing in it wasnt allready on my mind, its still a great write-up of all aspects! thanks

[@Blox117]

@@SiMeGamer you're one of the more intelligent of the many commenters on youtube. that comment reads like something I would write, but no longer, having wasted too much time on the low intelligence demographic that is all too common these days.

[@TheRealBrit]

@@SiMeGamer I believe the answer is not infact "because it is" but actually "because it maximises the happiness of those involved at large" you can look at the abilene paradox being a factor for a couple of reasons, either dishonesty or ignorance. They are either being dishonest for not answering what they truthfully want to do or they are being ignorant for assuming that they know the others want to go. Besides if they truly valued making others happy going because you made the assumption that everyone one wanted to go and youre making them happy by going would make you happy therefore everyone would be truly happy about going because everybody is making everybody happy and that's what they value. If each of them said "I don't want to go but I'll would like everyone else to be happy so I'll go if everyone wants to and be happy about it" then they wouldn't go. If you are selfish when considering your own wants but selfless about the final choice then that would maximise the overall happiness.

[@gsczo]

I have always wondered about this and it feels so good to finally have a logical answer, I've never understood why competitors were so close to each other, like, wtf? Now I get it, what a relief lol!

[@QuilloManar]

“Like a couple who’s constantly fighting over whether the toilet paper feeds from the front or from the wrong side.”

[@angelito3795]

He said back

[@adelk6239]

He meant wrong

[@justinstuder7703]

I feel like more people should be teaching their children about the Abilene Paradox as a way to help them be comfortable with sharing how they truly feel. My family certainly fell victim to senseless decisions like this over the years and I had to learn the hard way that it's okay to be selfish in some cases.

[@Jason75913]

based actually, just improve overall parenting throughout the population, that would help the country and society overall

[@Birdylockso]

, yes, our family of 5 had this problem years ago deciding where to eat out at, until I, as the father, decided that each person will take turns to be the authoritarian each week and make a decision that others will follow. Problem solved. It also teaches the weekly "authoritarian" to make a balanced decision.

[@tyeo1864]

I feel like people should be teaching their children more about the Worm Odyssey... just my opinion

[@the4spaceconstantstetraqua886]

That's what a vote is all about!

[@ruilindeng4301]

my family's the complete opposite I've been trying to voice disagreement with literally everything they do and they just don't care and drag me along with their decisions that I never agreed to anyways

[@jomiar309]

I am always delighted by your videos, and always seem to forget how awesome they are until I'm watching one. You are a true visionary!

[@KamilHenri]

I’ve never seen Zach animated so closely to what he actually looks like

[@huhneat1076]

Chidi explaining to Ellenor why he has to stress over literally everything

[@full-timepog6844]

are you a fan of the *nice area* show?

[@rain9440]

The good place!

[@huhneat1076]

The decent location

[@rain9440]

Fine neighboorhood

[@huhneat1076]

@@rain9440 the Presentable Town

[@zander2510]

Wasn't sure if I should have liked or shared this video. So I just did both, don't regret. Dang this video hit deep, thanks kevin.

[@MichaelOrtegaExtra]

VSauce uploads... you drop everything and watch

[@BlitzkriegBryce]

My loins are sweating with love for both EDIT: I still don’t know what this is about but I’m glad I can have a “favorite vs favorite” as opposed to candidates today where it is “choose the lesser evil”

[@Toppat4Lyfe]

0:37 you gave the answer yourself

[@Toppat4Lyfe]

This comment is 3 year old 😭😭

[@PapaFlammy69]

vsauce, flammy here

[@non-inertialobserver946]

oh shiet hello papa >snek

[@xiaohuwang4173]

Hi!

[@IoT_]

Good Morgen, my fella mathematician 😁

[@0NBalfa0]

papa I will only vote for you!

[@AnAverageItalian]

Oh henlo Papa!

[@Aaovio]

Me: *dips bagel bite in mountain dew*

[@hongseng3670]

Aaovio ah yes’ the negotiator

[@0salum0]

Kevin: This random potato and ace of spades dont matter at all right, WRONG! These two items are important for the CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE!

[@prestondenoo2886]

"Fighting to the death sounds bad. But I do like cheese"

[@viktorashistan7207]

Im sorry, but why would you even acknowledge squid-torturing-girl?

[@vedvod]

extremist opinion? representative of the hyperconservative/hyperliberal or whatever party that's always present?

[@viktorashistan7207]

@@vedvod fair enough, yeah now i just thought about it

[@tannerman46]

Farmed animals also feel pain and it's cruel to hurt them. Pigs, for example, are gassed in a way that suffocates them while burning their eyes, throat, and mouth. They scream in pain and thrash about to eventually pass out. Then they have their throats slit. This is how we get bacon and pork. So maybe we should just eat more plant-based food instead.

[@reanetsemoleleki8219]

@@tannerman46 a lot of your plant based foods are still alive when you eat them. They may not have pain receptors or brains but how can you definitively say they aren't suffering? Edit: Also, why advocate for the adoption of veganism or vegetarianism instead of more humane slaughterhouses?

[@tannerman46]

@@reanetsemoleleki8219 do you actually care about the suffering of plants?

[@MrLonomia]

I think the minimum grains of sand to make a heap is 4. By definition, a heap is "an untidy collection of objects placed haphazardly on top of each other." This requires at least 2 levels, one on top of the other. The top layer will have one element. The bottom needs to provide a stable foothold, which we all know is made of 3 contact points minimum. This setup will also provide a heapy conical shape So 4

[@jacobmorgan7553]

you can make a heap with just 2 by that definition, a smaller grain of sand on top of a larger grain of sand

[@MrLonomia]

@@jacobmorgan7553 that is called a stack XD

[@sashimiroll5055]

“A fight to the death sounds bad....but I do like cheese!”

[@paradox811]

I still don't know what this video is about

[@IoT_]

You've probably been waiting this video to comment for four years.

[@Thiollier_1]

that's ironic not paradoxical

[@benjabby]

He couldn't decide what it should be about

[@robinbruce7838]

Logic traps and paradoxes known as decision theory. Where the logically most optimal / best choice can be the most irrational and worst choice just by matter of how we think and where impeccable logic becomes irrational decision making just by existing. Really interesting really :).

[@sadkfjasdkl4543]

2:40 pebbles has my vote

[@CadetGriffin]

"Sweat and dad's farts" That could explain why Lex Luthor hates him so much and why Batman doesn't always get along with him.

[@codapi7441]

Kevin: Right? Me: Duh, obviously. Kevin: WRONG! Me: i knew that.

[@gemship]

The thirst vs hunger problem is really a no brainer. If you haven’t eaten or drank anything in a couple of days you should drink first. You can go three days without fluids but 7 days without food. Always satisfy the need that will kill you sooner if you don’t satisfy it.

[@bhaveesarna]

The gap between his "right?" And "wrong!" is decreasing 👀

[@Differentox]

Definitely have fallen victim to the Abilene Paradox. I made some baguettes that were really good and offered the last one to someone else to be polite, saying, "I'll eat it if you dont." "Okay I guess I'll eat it," she said, and I could tell she didnt want it, she just didnt want it go to waste. If only she knew how much I wanted it, haha. Lose-lose for both of us :(

[@dudep504]

"Right? WRONG!" ah, how i miss that phrase.... The last time i heard it was like 5 minutes ago.

[@xaveur.aa1]

So thats why glow squid won over iceologer。

[@ashleapatterson82]

no, iceologer's loss was caused because of multiple rounds allowing moobloom and glow squid voters to team up to prevent a possible 2nd phantom. solution: passive and hostile mobs need seperate votes

[@adelk6239]

@@ashleapatterson82 thank you

[@siennaq5553]

@@ashleapatterson82 Minecraft needs to remove carpet

[@dc_dachi]

What is with Zach's obsession with Thunderdome-style death match events?

[@Dilb3rtext]

He’s looking for someone to finally end his streak

[@Shifty989]

If that doesn't scream fun for whole family to you then I don't know what is

[@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS]

He joined the cult of jeff bandelun and also appreciates his love of the thunderdome

[@Bloomalloo]

The fact that Kevin knows about and has beat The Legend of Dragoon makes me a very happy man

[@michaelnelson1270]

My advice when faced with a decision: flip a coin and be right half the time, better odds than agonizing over it will get you.

[@maccrew612]

I just choose based on alphabetical order.

[@Squagglimole]

Sociologically, you're supposed to flip the coin, and while the coin is in the air, you will already know what you want, and no longer have to rely on the coin-flip.

[@sestinator]

One time I was at Wawa and I saw Zach, Tomar, and Jaxxi. I went over to say hi and shook their hands, but when I got into Tomar's grip he pulled me hard and threw me into Zach. Zach started screeching and then Jaxxi looked me in the eyes and Tomar saw it. Tomar started hitting her and Zach's screaming gave me goosepimples all over my body. Overall cool guys.

[@billiboi122]

Props to kevin for starving and dehydrating himself just to explain the paradox better

[@ZenkaiBoostx]

As soon as he said “let’s hear from pebbles” an ad with vladmir putin came up 😂😂

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Bagel bites are a childhood treat but Mountain Dew is the epic gamer drink. Tough choice

[@leftout3715]

I love his: Right? WRONG!

[@terryoconnor5262]

The writers of this would be of great use to teachers in lesson planning; students would actually ENJOY school more and learn more as a result!! Keep up the amazing work you do guys!! 🇬🇧

[@shutuptravis5609]

Whang gang sounds appealing but I’m sorry, we’ve never had a goblin president before, and I’d like to see more representation in office, so I’m going with the cult of pebbles

[@Zakjuh]

So brave and courageous. We'll finally have a goblin president, I'm so proud of how far we've come!

[@ivanmegafanboy1981]

You just want to rise in power and population to become the oppressors. Goblinstate.

[@okenwaayomikun]

From the amount of energy he put into this video, he is definiterly not hungry, or thirsty.

[@YoungTheFish]

Kevin: Right? Also Kevin: WRONG!!!

[@mightbeahuman3442]

Him: right? Me: I can see where this is going

[@jelly9230]

“Hopeless game you need to play” Nagito: 👁👄👁

[@leantisimpspray3108]

Hoppeeeellessss he says I'm a simp for Nagito and Kokichi lol

[@alberttus2328]

We need a six star system. For too long now we've been using a 5 star system as a way of knowingly putting content creators, 'in their place,' as KZbin big wigs put it. Everyone gets 5 stars. 5 stars is a participation trophy in this millennial america. "Wow...thanks for clicking on the only option you had." 6 STARS however. Wow now that's something there isn't it? With 6 stars, a whole additional star over 5 that is, we could finally begin to both differentiate between and appreciate the REAL content creators and the layabouts. And we like showing our hardworking content creators just how much we appreciate them, yes? #cultofpebbles

[@ScannyProductions]

I'm just worried Zach would center his policy around the game CROC.

[@GoyBenius_0901]

"I saw the little creatures in cages and I thought hey, that's not so bad".

[@catlovingtrio]

Kevin: If I run some amazing gas station sushi campaign.... Chubbyemu music: *Starts playing*

[@CLUSTERFVCK]

“hey vsauce” “*i havent eaten in days*”

[@adelk6239]

Micheall. Hel p

[@jeanlain9442]

Vsause: I got gas and I'm going to open up a pharmacy

[@pussinboots9983]

So many paradoxes... Glad you put those links in the description.

[@cyberdimi1100]

It’s amazing how this guy can make the most simple question soo complicated

[@flicknotesruinmylife]

"Eat or drink?!" Ummm they're right in front of you, right? Why don't you just take both?

[@lysy-zn2gg]

Before watching: You throw out mountain dew and get some water. You take few small sips of water (probably beacuse your mouth is dry af and I think feeling of thirst is stronger than hunger) then eat some food. Few small sips of water then some food. And so on.

[@pknuttarlott4934]

Before this begins. You drink first starting with small sips. You can survive weeks with no food but only days without water.

[@DustinBones69]

That's the rule of 3... You can go; 3 minutes without air. 3 days without water. 3 weeks without food. (Roughly) before it becomes life-threatening.

[@willymammoth7043]

@@DustinBones69 hold on I'm going to break the world record for breathing

[@willymammoth7043]

Actually I'm not doing it.

[@itchywuss3511]

no one is talking about liquid calories

[@Humble_Merchant]

Gosh, I really agreed with what Whang had to say, but... Geez', that pebbles guy was so charismatic, I'm practically forced to vote for him!

[@tajaloe5920]

Your drinking to eating ratio based on the average human metabolism and statistics gathered from SAS survival training activities is roughly 4.5/1, that is for every 4 and one half rations of water you should consume one ration of food. Use these numbers to determine your priority based on the last food or water ration you had taken.

[@VioletTheGeek]

The Abilene Paradox is basically how we got Biden as the Democratic nominee.