I had the Vstrom for a test, the outside temperature was 30 and I also noticed that it gets warm, but it heats up very much during strong acceleration and fast driving, I had to spread my legs because it was hot, after an hour of intense driving I was tired because all the heat goes up. I came to the dealer on a different bike and there was no problem. Please comment on my experiences and do a test with dynamic driving.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
So you mean that you switched for another 800 on the way back and there was no problem? For dynamic riding and high acceleration I have already done this and as long as you are moving fast, there is no issue at all. Thanks for sharing your comment. I wait for your answer on the switching of the bikes.
@jacka44905 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom I came on a Honda and I tested the Suzuki, driving like you show on film is not a problem, try it dynamically, starting quickly from the lights, driving at 140, etc., maybe your Suzuki has a not run-in engine and you can't, I tested the Suzuki after running in and above 1.5 thousand km and I could drive dynamically, there is a problem and it discouraged me from buying it, I would like to be wrong
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thank you, I will do a follow up video once I have some more kms on the engine.
@theyorkbiker.82145 ай бұрын
Excellent information, im considering getting one to replace the big strom I had,loving my interceptor still,but also missing the touring aspect of biking.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Glad to help. Thanks :) This is a great motorcycle and very friendly to climb on it as it is also lower and more compact. The engine, brakes and suspension are top.
@2018NukNuk4 ай бұрын
I bought a 23 v-Strom 650, as i liked your videos about it. It never gets hot in any way and the fan never kicks on.
@DrVstrom4 ай бұрын
Yes but the engine is smaller capacity and the euro requirements (although euro 5) slightly different. Its not a problem actually. Thanks for your comment.
@jan1802 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Video. I have learn Something about my Suzuki V-Strom 800de
@DrVstrom2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Glad it was helpful. Ride safe
@azizlenox5 күн бұрын
Thank you for this great video
@DrVstrom5 күн бұрын
Many Thanks for your comment. Ride safe
@scotthartman46585 ай бұрын
Well-executed study! I’ve felt high temps even at motorway speeds and if it weren’t for my boots(Alpinestars Andes V2; highly recommended) I’d worry a bit about the potential for indirect burns to occur; I think this is a ticking legal bomb for Suzuki if they don’t figure out a solution. Must love Euro 5, though!
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment and sharing your experience :)
@borilapostolov74745 ай бұрын
Ok for this test. I rode the 800de a few times from the dealer in Sofia. Mainly city rides and it is higher in temperature. The fan does it's job efficiently and you can notice it by the dash and the feeling on the right leg. Maybe the higher temp. Is because of the different compresion ratio,compared to the 650 wee. But hey it is a brand new engine and it is different. Maybe someone with GSX 8S /R can share more info on that heat topic? Ride safe!
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing such a nice comment :)
@MariusZarro4 ай бұрын
The heating is a huge problem on vstrom 800, you rode throught the city, you didn't stop to any traffic lights. Try through a crowded city and you'll see how hot the air is. And on the highway, I'd tried 130-140 km/h for a few minutes and it was impossible to rode it like that. The temparature outside was 29 degrees Celsius. On my Ducati Scrambler I don't have these issues at all.
@DrVstrom4 ай бұрын
You are wrong, I made 570 kms non stop on highway speeds at 39 degrees temperatures. Its not in the video but I did mention, it was fine on the highways. Well it is fine on highways and regarding the traffic lights, when you stop the temp rises and I did mention that as well. I m not Suzuki, I m just sharing my experience. There is an issue but not huge and especially on highways its ok. I also state in the video that with time I will revisit the subject after the engine properly breaks in.
@MariusZarro4 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom Riding the motorcycle at 130-140 km/h was unbearable, I couldn't do it for more than a few minutes. I'm not talking about how hot it was, it was unbearable. I have a Suzuki V-Strom 800 Tech and I'm looking for solutions, because I can't really ride it. In the city it can be ok, it depends on how crowded it is. I haven't had another Euro 5, I think my Ducati is Euro 3 or 4. Maybe the problem is because I don't have 1000 km yet. I heard that someone from Portugal wants to sell it and buy a Honda Transalp, because it doesn't heat up.
@DrVstrom4 ай бұрын
Hello, I understand but hear me out. I have ridden this motorcycle for around 570 straight kms 4 times and my speed was between 140 to 160. The most remarkable thing was the temperature. There was a heat wave in 2 of those days of temperatures at least of 39 degrees shown on the dashboard Yet It was ok on the highway. I am working on a solution and will probably suggest something in the near future.
@trankz013 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom hope you'l find some solution for this.. I've one re and it's hot, but i don't think it is so hot has my old 1290...for me isn't a big issue...
@long_vacation_tour5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. You did a lot of work. I am still thinking about my next motorcycle. 800DE is amazing modal but there are three things I would like to have on it 1 - tubeless tyrea 2 - 18 inch rear whell 3 - cruise control Tubeless tyres is number one priority.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I have information for you. 1. There are spoke wheels tubeless for the DE 2. No info on that 3. There is a cruise control solution that clips in the factory wires and works with 3 buttons
@jacka44905 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom You did an unrealistic test, no one buys a strong motorcycle to ride calmly,
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
This is then an unrealistic comment then my friend. The test was performed in a "calm" riding way, within the city limits because this motorcycle is not only for touring purposes but many like me will want to daily commute. Thus said, because inside the city there are speed limits, pedestrians, etc, one can only drive calm. When tests are made in general, you always test the bad scenarios and difficult conditions, which in this case are when you ride calm and not enough air passes through the radiator to see how the motorcycle manages to cope. No one cares for vanilla situations which are easy. Inside the city therefore is where the heat is evident so there is no point to do the test elsewhere. In the video, I also clearly state at the end, that there is no issue when you ride on highways or outside city limits. It is easy to criticize but I never said I dont like this motorcycle but rather the opposite. In fact I dont consider this to be a problem at all. Next time you comment something, make it realistic and use proper communication by greeting also. Dont forget, I m not working for you and I m not getting paid for my contributions. I do everything on my spare time to give back to the community of Vstromers. Ride safe.
@cheetah6945 ай бұрын
Sounds like you need a Triumph or an Aprilia. Although not sure why an 18" wheel is a priority for you. This bike is too heavy for anything where you would notice a difference.
@ChristosTsaousidis5 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom έχεις μήπως κάποιο λινκ για τα tubeless του DE και το cruise control?
@lvbiketime62085 ай бұрын
Many modern bikes have the same right side high temperature : Aprilia Touareg, KTM 890 Adventure... Moto Guzzi , as I remember was not so hot.. But VStrom 650 has not this hot at all❤
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@ДмитрийАлексеев-ъ3о5 ай бұрын
I have 2006 v strom 650 ( with oil radiator) and I don’t know , are radiator fan work or no) I think oil radiator solves the issue with temperature. But Euro5 harms this …
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Yes we agree and be careful of the oil radiator because it is sensitive to rocks and also in the connections to rust.
@danapintilioaiei65875 ай бұрын
Hello! It's exactly the same thing on my 3 years old Yamaha Tracer 9. The engine temperature rises over 100°C when riding slow and fan kicks in. It's such a petty for this new motorcycles because high temperature is very bag for the life of the engine. Thank you for your instructional video.
@danapintilioaiei65875 ай бұрын
By the way, my Yamaha already has 28000 km on board so no, it would not change the situation after your breaking in mileage.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! Very valuable info. Ride safe :)
@danapintilioaiei65875 ай бұрын
All these new Euro 5 motorcycles are running lean (a mixture of more air intake on certain rpm) in order to comply with the all those standards that are supposed to save the planet... Ha,ha! More air means more Oxygen which translate into a greater explosion on the engine. Hence the higher temperatures of the engine. I really don't understand why those qualified engineers set the fan to kick in at about 100-105°C instead of, let's say, 90-95°C. Because of the higher temperatures, the engine parts are part of the greater stress due to extreme expansions (dilatations) and that translates into a lower lifespan of an engine. Most of us prefer a second hand car with a 200000 km on board (taken on highways) instead of an 100000 km car done on heavy tragic ( on city).
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Lets see, I dont think they would risk reliability reputation. Thanks my friend
@cheetah6945 ай бұрын
@@danapintilioaiei6587 Those 100-105 degrees is not your engine temperature, that's the water temperature. Oil temperature would be a far more accurate parameter. Water temperature doesn't say much at all, because it's highly dampened, while the engine temperature is volatile.
@MichaelPsyrras5 ай бұрын
Αλλο ενα πολυ ωραίο και με πολύ πληροφορια βίντεο. Δυο σχόλια: 1) αν μπει after market ολόκληρη εξάτμιση, δλδ αν καταργηθεί ο καταλύτης, οι θερμοκρασίες του κινητήρα θα μειωθούν. Αν και πλεον δεν εχω vstrom και η μοτοσικλέτα μου δεν με ενοχλεί με τις θερμοκρασίες που ανεβάζει όπως με ενόχλησε το VStrom οταν το οδηγησα -και ηταν ισως το μονο παράπονο που είχα από αυτή την εξαιρετική μοτοσικλέτα-, σκεφτομαι σοβαρά την αντικατάσταση της εξάτμισης. Η κατάργηση του καταλύτη έχει ομως το όποιο περιβαλλοντικό αποτύπωμα δυστυχώς! 2) διαφωνώ στο οτι η μοτοσικλέτα πρέπει να τσουλάει με νεκρά στην κατηφόρα με ρελαντί. Ειναι σαφώς προτιμότερο να έχει μια άνετη σχεση στο κιβώτιο κατά την διάρκεια της κατηφόρας που να της επιτρέπει να κυλάει με μια σχετική ταχύτητα. Η κυκλοφορία του λαδιού και του ψυκτικού υγρού γίνεται σαφώς καλύτερα με αυτόν τον τρόπο συν το ότι να κυλάει με engine brake συμβάλλει και στην ψύξη αλλά και στο πιο σωστό φρενάρισμα αν χρειαστεί.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Σε ευχαριστω για τα σχολια. Θεωρω οτι το προβλημα θα μειωθει μολις συμπληρωθουν και αλλα χιλιομετρα και στρωθει ο κινητηρας. Σχετικα με το engine breaking, θα συμβάλει ακομα περισσοτερο σε ανοδο θερμοκρασίας, μιας και η κινητικη ενεργεια μετατρεπεται σε θερμοτητα. Επισης αν ησουν κατοχος vstrom και παρατηρησες λαδι στο φιλτροκουτι, ηταν και απο αυτην την ενεργεια. Γενικα ειναι προτιμοτερο να την αφησεις να τσουλα για μικρες ασφαλεις αποστασεις παρα να την περιοριζεις και να εμπλεκεις πολλα κινούμενα μερη. Ευχαριστω και παλι για το σχολιο, ride safe.
@MichaelPsyrras5 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom τα κινούμενα μέρη δεν σταματάνε να κινούνται είτε έχεις είτε δεν έχεις σχέση στο σασμάν. Η τρόμπα του λαδιού και του νερού όμως κινούνται πολύ πιο αργά παρά το ότι η μοτοσικλέτα κινήται με συγκεκριμένη ταχύτητα. Επίσης το λάδι στο φιλτροκούτι δεν νομίζω πως μπορείς να το αποφύγεις. Αναθυμιάσεις θα υπάρξουν πάντα... Προσωπικά δεν αφήνω ποτέ την μοτοσικλέτα να κυλάει χωρίς σχέση στο κιβώτιο. Αντεύχομαι όμορφα και ασφαλή χιλιόμετρα!
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Τα κινουμενα μερη ομως με engine breaking οπως ανεφερες εχουν αρκετα διαφορετικο (μεγαλυτερο) φορτιο που οπως ειπα μεταφραζεται σε αυξημενη θερμοκρασια που ηδη υπαρχει εκεινη τη στιγμη. Σαν αποτελεσμα παρολο που η αντλια λειτουργει πιο αργα σε ρελαντι, το engine breaking δεν ειναι δα και στο επιπεδο του ανοιγματος γκαζιου γιατι μην ξεχνας μονο στην αρχη υπαρχουν οι πολλες στροφές που θα απορροφηθουν και μετα θα πεσουν πιο χαμηλα. Εκτος και εαν εχεις βρει την τεραστια κατηφορα που θα πηγαινεις διαρκως ετσι :). Αυτο δεν κανει τεραστια διαφορα στην περιστροφη της αντλιας αλλα στο μικρο διαστημα που φρεναρεις και με τον κινητηρα κανει μεγαλη διαφορα στην θερμοκρασια. Με λίγα λογια στο μικρο διαστημα που ρολαρεις με ρελαντι, θεωρω οτι το οφελος στην θερμοκρασια ειναι πολυ μεγαλυτερο απο το να φρεναρεις με τον κινητηρα. Συγκεκριμενα θα σου πω οτι καταρχην με νεκρα το οχημα αυξανει ταχυτητα και το μικρο αυτο χρονικο διαστημα η θερμοτητα φευγει γρηγοροτερα βοηθωντας την κυκλοφορια της ζεστης (το ζεστο παει στο κρυο σε ενα κλειστο κυκλωμα υπο πίεση). Τελος στο βιντεο η θερμοκρασια στο ποδι αυξηθηκε κατα πολυ οταν ρολαρα και βοηθησε να πεσει πιο γρηγορα. Ευχαριστω πολυ που συμμετεχεις στην κουβεντα την οποια χαιρομαι πολυ που την κανουμε. Ride safe.
@MichaelPsyrras5 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom μάλλον συμφωνούμε πως διαφωνούμε! 🙂 Κάθε καλό!!!
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Δεν έχει είναι κακο αυτό. Η κουβέντα είναι καλή για ανταλλαγή απόψεων. Σημασία έχει ότι συμφωνούμε στο θέμα μηχανές. Καλή συνέχεια φίλε μου
@slavikos4 ай бұрын
Εγώ προέρχομαι από CB500X του 2015, στην οποία ποτέ δεν κατάλαβα καμιά ζέστη δεξιά/αριστέρα. Τώρα με το v-strom 800 (έχω την street έκδοση, 2-3 μήνες περίπου) είναι το μόνο που με ενοχλεί ... βασικά με ενοχλούσε, πλέον το έχω συνηθήσει / αποδεχθεί ότι υπάρχει μια σχετική ζέστη δεξιά. Κατά τα αλλα είμαι πολύ ευχαριστημένος με την μηχανή ... αν θα ήθελα να βρω ενα αρνητικό πάνω της, νομίζω ότι δεν ειναι αυτό το θέμα με την ζέστη, αλλά το θέμα με τα φώτα το βράδυ ... το "pattern" που εμφανίζεται στο δρόμο, όταν δεν υπάρχει άλλος φωτισμός είναι πολύ μικρό .. σε σημείο IMHO να είναι επικύνδινο ... περιμένω (απο Ali) spotlights να του βάλω να τελειώνουμε ;-)
@DrVstrom4 ай бұрын
Σε ευχαριστω πολυ για το σχολιο :) . Ναι τα φωτα συμφωνω.
@roadwarrior85605 ай бұрын
Very interesting.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@richardwitherstone73965 ай бұрын
Well done 👏🏻 very informative.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Ride safe
@gatoyt36194 ай бұрын
Την παρελαβα σημερα. Εκανα το λαθος να ειμαι με σορτσακι και μεχρι παω σπιτι μου στην Αθηνα (8km εντος πολης) το μπουτι μου απο την μεσα μερια κοντα στο γονατο ειχε κοκκινισει. Επισης ερχεται ολος ο ζεστος αερας στα ποδια ακομα και οταν παω πιο γρηγορα τυπου 60-70km/h. Το προηγουμενο μου μηχανακι ηταν το Vstrom 250 και δεν ειχα κανενα θεμα. Περα απο αυτο ομως εχω καταχαρει με το μηχανακι. Απολαυσα το καθε χιλιομετρο που εκανα σημερα και δεν μετανιωσα καθολου την αγορα του
@teneretraveller89805 ай бұрын
Good test. And informative 👍
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thank you and ride safe
@Jagosbullo3 ай бұрын
800de owner! Where did you think heat come from ? If come from exhaust pipe can be possible reduce with some termic band?!
@DrVstrom3 ай бұрын
Heat in my case comes from the ventilator fan from the radiator to the front of my leg.
@ivanvujcic15535 ай бұрын
Interesting video, thank you. I have a question that has nothing to do with temperature. I'm looking to buy a motorcycle soon and choice fell on the V strom, but I'm in dilemma between 650 and 1000. I've read on various forums and was surprised that some people wrote that the 650 is better than the 1000, which makes no sense to me. I'd like to know what you think about these two models. I'm talking about the 3rd generation, 2017 plus. I'd use the motocycle 50% on the highway to 50% local roads. I've never seen anyone who knows about motorcycles in such detail. All respect
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. Ok so the 650 3rd generation is a fantastic, can do all motorcycle. Its biggest advantage is the economy/range it can get while at the same time being able to move fast on the highway as well as inside cities. In other words, its low consumption, with enough power to feel safe on highways as well as while overtaking. It also is great at road handling when turning and riding fast and its maintenance is cheap with a bulletproof engine. Compared to larger vstroms it lacks some of this premium feel with older technology and features. The 1000, I dont know if you are referring to 1050 or the old 1000 but these are larger motorcycles with higher consumption and a lot heavier. They are not so good for city centers but more oriented in traveling. The golden choice would be the vstrom 800. Hope this info helps.
@ivanvujcic15535 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom thank you so much, it's helps a lot😎
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Ride safe my friend and make a good selection and join the vstrom family
@ivanvujcic15535 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom thanks my friend
@albertjurcisin89445 ай бұрын
I have no personal experience with the motorbikes you mentioned but I am chosing between the same two models and I have read a lot of forums/ saw a few videos. People say that if money allow for it then go for a larger bike (DL 1000). Significantly better brakes and suspension are worth it. If you do not go off road then the weight is manageable. More power for some 1 - 1,5 l/100 km higher consumption. Good luck! Here is a guy who went from 650 to 1000 and compares the two bikes kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmKVlWl3rq6YnLs
@uligoetz5 ай бұрын
Danke!
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much :) . What a nice gesture, its people like you that keep me going for more than a decade in creating this content. Ride safe.
@thodoris37903 ай бұрын
Do you have a metal skid plate on?the re version comes naked?put one on,and then do this again.
@DrVstrom3 ай бұрын
Thodori, The RE version comes naked. However, I bought and have the plastic on right now and also in a later video will test a metal one. As to do it again, is that an order or a kind request?
@thodoris37903 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom εχω δει πολλους να λενε για ζεστη απτο μοτερ.ειμαι για καινουρια μηχανη.εκανα συντομο test ride το de και δε καταλαβα κατι αλλα ηταν ανοιξη.το re εχει ολα οσα θελω.απλα δεν αντεχω αυτο μουτρο.με τιποτα ομως.μσα μονοφθαλμη παπια ειναι.και για μενα στις μηχανες οπως και στις γυναικες,η εμφανιση μετραει.το μοτερακι αυτο ομως ειναι φωτια.
@DrVstrom3 ай бұрын
Ζεστη εχει αλλα δεν ειναι τραγικο και ειναι μνονο μεσα στην πολη. Θα ξανακανω ενα βιντεο αργοτερα μολις συμπληρωσω χλμ να δω εεαν παιζει ρολο. Το χειμωνα θα ειναι και θετικο.Το μουτρο τωρα πεταγεσαι σε τελειως αλλο πραγμα. Η εμφανιση στις γυναικες ειναι αλλο θεμα. Την μηχανη οσο εμφανιση και να χει την καβαλας μονο εσυ. Η γυναικα ειναι αλλη ιστορια. Εστιασε σε μια μηχανη που ειναι αξιοπιστη αλλιως παρε ducati και bmw να γινεις φιλος με τα συνεργεια. Σου μιλαει πειρα 34 χρονων.
@thodoris37903 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom τι αλλο πραμα ειναι το μουτρο?ειναι ενα κριτηριο κι αυτο.τεσπα. εγω αμα το παρω θα παρω το de.αν και με βλεπω στο africa να καταληγω
@DrVstrom3 ай бұрын
Ουτε την Honda εχω ουτε την Suzuki σαν δικη μου εταιρεια. Οτι σε φωτισει ο θεος
@albertjurcisin89445 ай бұрын
So you switched sensor to the right leg to see what the temperature will be on the motorway and we did not hear any number. How much was it? Thank you :-)
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
No, you missed something. Temperature in city going slow is 50-52 on the right leg front, 46-47 left leg and right on the back. On the highway you dont feel anything cause the engine temperature is 85 C and the fan will not kick in, plus there is plenty of air both for the radiator and your legs
@albertjurcisin89445 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom I was referring to 10:07 when you said you will change the sensor one last time to the right leg to show what the temperature is outside of the city (on highway). And we were never shown the number! :) However your explanation in the comment is sufficient and I appreciate it. Good luck!
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Here is your number kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYqslZKHhpaAkJY . Its the same way outside the city in the begining. I say its fine 2 times and you should not worry as its always much less than what it is in the city. There is plenty of air flowing through the radiator.
@teokosmopoulos5 ай бұрын
Το μηχανάκι ενώ κατά τα άλλα είναι καταπληκτικό , δεν κάνει για κάποιον που κινείται στην πόλη το καλοκαίρι . Δεν ζεσταίνει λίγο , ζεσταίνει και καίει πολύ ..
@murraycharters61025 ай бұрын
What is it going to be like in Australia where in summer the ambient temperature can reach 43 degrees Celsius.
@bartoszk74395 ай бұрын
Thanks
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@monazim336Ай бұрын
compare to triumph street twin 900 heat?
@DrVstromАй бұрын
I don't have experience from this triumph. Please share if you do.
@thanosa22065 ай бұрын
Χωρίς να θελω να πω κατι αρνητικο για την σουζουκαρα Το τρανσαλπ δεν ειχε καθόλου ζέστη Λιγότερη και από το nx500 που ειχε λίγη Στο ktm adv 890 ακομα εχω το σημάδι με την αποτρίχωση που μου εκανε 😅
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Ευχαριστώ για την πληροφορια, χαχαχαχ
@robotech215 ай бұрын
Ενδιαφέρον βίντεο, Ο καταλύτης βρίσκεται εξολοκλήρου στο τελικό της εξάτμισης? Αν αντικατασταθεί το τελικό της εξάτμισης και μόνο χρειάζεται επαναπρογραματισμος? Θα ήθελα να αλλάξω το τελικό της εξάτμισης για αισθητικούς λόγους κυριως και δευτερευόντως για μείωση του βάρους. Αλλά δεν θα ήθελα να μπλέξω με προγράμματα κλπ. Δεν με ενδιαφερουν οι επιδόσεις αλλά η αποδοτική/οικονομική λειτουργία του κινητήρα. Τωρα αν με αυτό μειώνεται και η θερμοκρασία είναι κάτι καλοδεχουμενο.
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Πολυ σωστη σκεψη. Ναι ο καταλυτης βρισκεται εκει. Επισης σωστο το να μην μπλεξεις με προγραμματα. Θα το κοιταξω και θα σου πω μιας που ακομα στην δικια μου δεν εχω παρεμβει αφου ειναι καινουργια. Πάντως το πιο πιθανό είναι να χρειάζεται.
@northrider3465 ай бұрын
Conclusion: you should keep your 650 😊
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Keep your 650 which is a great bike until you want something better in almost all areas :)
@147db3 ай бұрын
@@DrVstrom It seems a bit stretched to me to think that a cheap parallel twin could represent an improvement over the last revision of the 650 V-twin... doesn't it? Sorry, just asking. Bye!
@Takis2145 ай бұрын
Royal Enfield Himalayan bs6 air oil cooled πας πορεία και δεν τρέχει μία...😂
@DrVstrom5 ай бұрын
Κι όμως λόγω euro 5 regulations αυτά είναι από τα πρώτα που θα σταματήσουν σύντομα. Γενικά δεν υπάρχει πρόβλημα με το 800.