Kawasaki Versys 1000 SE Honest Review

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@Richaag
@Richaag 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone who reviews this bike complains that it needs more power. My question is why? The bike is made for eating up a lot of miles in a comfortable riding position. Detuned engines typically last longer, produce less heat, and get better economy. It’s not a bike anyone would want to take to a track day so why not detune the motor? 120 HP is plenty of zip both in town and on the highways.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
My own personal answer to your question is that I load a bike up heavy for touring and I can feel the power deficit at that extra travelling weight. In other words, for me "enough" power isn't actually enough, there needs to be more to compensate for touring weight. The same with agility. I remember test riding a Yamaha Super Tenere a couple of years after I traded in my own ST, and was surprised at how the agility was acceptable while it was only carrying the rider, but remembered how the agility was non-existent when the bike was loaded up.
@Richaag
@Richaag 2 жыл бұрын
@@craigfinnegan8534 I think it’s a good call that manufacturers detune engines when the intended use of the bike will be long distance touring. Triumph did this a while back with the Rocket III. They made a touring version (which I owned) that had bags, windscreen, floor boards, etc. It made 50 less HP than the Rocket but was tuned to make its torque at lower RPM. The result was an engine that was right in the sweet spot at highway speeds. It’s hard to think that 120 HP motorcycle is considered underpowered. I have a Versys 1000 now and while I don’t tour 2 up, I have loaded it down for some trips and I’ve never felt it was down on power… but the way I ride would probably be considered slow and boring by most.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
@@Richaag That's a legitimate viewpoint. The nice thing is that these days there's a bike for everybody. I do question guys who buy powerful sportbikes for the ego appeal, but who am I to judge? I ride an "adventurized" Yamaha FJ-09 now and love it's punchy engine on local rides. But my next bike will be the new Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer for the shaft drive, huge fuel tank and again, the power delivery. I just wouldn't feel safe (ironically) on anything too mellow. But I do love the mellow aspect of riding also.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I'd add my two cents by saying that it may indeed not feel as exciting when accelerating compared to other competitors - this matters if it's something you enjoy like I do. The second thing would be also that we know that competitors can make much more HP out of the same or similar displacement so it makes us question Kawasaki's decision. I think that these might be an explanation.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow I have questioned for a long time why some manufacturers keep power delivery tame on certain models. As far as I can tell it's simply because that's what a lot of riders want. In my local area I'm surprised at how many riders tell me they want less power, not more, for their next bike. It's not something I relate to at all, even though I ride very responsibly.
@jmsmikey
@jmsmikey Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Las Vegas & LOVE your honest reviews. I appreciate that you are the ONLY major reviewer that evaluates heat management in your reviews. I live in the Nevada desert & it's REALLY hot here for 5 months out of the year, so excessive heat is a deal killer for me. Unfortunately much of this heat is coming from the catalytic converters & all the new Euro 5 standards are making this situation more of an issue. It's almost unfair to evaluate a bike's heat management until it gets an aftermarket full system cat delete 'off road/racing only' exhaust. Looking forward you your review of the 2024 GSX-S1000GX & updated 2024 Katana~ hopefully you can get your hands on them. Thank you~
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning that and I'm glad that you like the videos. Heat can be a pain in the... However, if the reason could be narrowed down to exhaust-related parts, then this may indeed be fixed. Let's hope that this is the case but if not, then there are also some thermal insulations like tapes and shields that people sometimes try to use if they suffer from engine/exhaust heat. Better to make sure what the source is but I worry it's not that straightforward.
@jmsmikey
@jmsmikey 11 ай бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow Absolutely, but I must say~ heat is not a new problem. I worked as a salesman for Cycle City Harley Davidson/Kawasaki in the 90s & when the 'new' ZX11 first came out, the eat for the engine was absolutely miserable. We had to remove most of the inner/lower fairings just to make it rideable. As for now~ the two bikes that don't have heat problems are the Yamaha 900 Tracer & the Honda Transalp750. I think that there will be a Yamaha Tenere 900 for 2025~ I'll wait for that.
@Tom-zy6ke
@Tom-zy6ke 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review. I agree that the windscreen adjustment is nothing short of crap and the seat is not the best, but overall I've done 300 miles in a day in relative comfort. You compare the Versys with the BMW and the Triumph but the one factor nobody ever looks at is reliability. Check out the manufacturer reliability figures and the 4 Japanese manufacturers are always at the top of the list with premium manufacturers such as BMW, Ducati and KTM waaaaay down the list which for premium bikes is appalling especially given their premium service and repair costs. As for price, My Versys 1000SE was much cheaper (around £5k) than a new BMW GS or S1000XR of similar spec so all in all I'm very happy that I chose the Versys.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that you're happy with your Versys. I believe that Japanese bikes may overall be more reliable but it's also true that it's not very often commented on by any reviewers. Of course in a few days it may not make much sense to judge that unless anything actually happens within that timeframe to the bike. But as long as there aren't any repeatedly occurring malfunctions in a certain bike, I'm not sure that I'd pay so much attention to it. There are some known weak points of Japanese bikes like a V-Strom (former V-Strom 1000 owner) and sooner or later these things break and force you to put the bike into a van or onto a trailer and drag it to the service. So it always makes me wonder whether it really is possible to properly analyse to draw conclusions. What I know out of renting bikes is that Ducatis are often broken and with KTM bikes, so many owners confirm issues here and there. BMW is very popular, it's plenty of bikes and every now and then something somewhere breaks. I'm not sure I'd pay soooo much attention to is but of course if there was a 'reliable' way of judging bikes in this area, it would be super important to me myself too. I'm just afraid that there isn't anything else than people telling people.
@brianeaston3748
@brianeaston3748 2 жыл бұрын
I've traded in my H2SX for a versys 1000 S, 200hp is exciting but on the road,you can't use it,you'll end up with no licence or something worse! H2SX is a brilliant bike but after a test ride on the versys it felt so comfortable and smooth and no weight on the wrists,I totaly agree with your comment mate,looking forward to getting my versys in a few weeks😄I'm a big kawasaki fan,had a z750,z1000sx,H2SX😄
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that you'll enjoy this smooth beast of a Kawasaki. I also wonder how you'll like the power pretty much cut in half ;). All the best!
@Paul-Waldin
@Paul-Waldin 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 versys and i love it to death...what are you people after? a zx10r with paniers? If you want power.....rev it lol...my tires get worn all the way around because u can lean it over and scratch the footpegs...i will definitely be getting another versys when the time comes :)
@baluoch
@baluoch 2 жыл бұрын
I own 2020 with 22k miles & I love the Versys 1000se+, with my aftermarket Corbin seat & lower pegs, this is the most comfortable bike I ever owned, this bike has everything that I need to travel to any state in Union.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and I'm glad to hear such feedback. I feel that the Versys may be underrated as a motorcycle. Damn, I was having such an image of it and what a surprise! All the best with your Versys 1000!
@oldtimer3824
@oldtimer3824 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Versys 1000 is popular with middle aged cost conscious slower riders, I liked it. In USA, although SE LT+ msrp is around $19,000, you can often find new leftover stock for $15,000 to $17,000, which is a good value.
@nyannyan123456
@nyannyan123456 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about getting one. It looks like a good bike too ride two up. My boy is at the age where I think I can take him on longer trips and him not falling asleep and falling off. 120 hp is a little weak though, but my other bike is a zx12r so that still gets my speed fix.
@dreadnought1984
@dreadnought1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@nyannyan123456 It's great two up. The peak HP was traded for real world useable low end torque. It's better to think of it as a giant naked sport. I have no regrets after 14K miles.
@nyannyan123456
@nyannyan123456 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreadnought1984 I'm going to give the dealership a call soon and line up a test ride. Thanks for the reply it does look like a great machine.
@jerryandjamie2up
@jerryandjamie2up 2 жыл бұрын
NIce review - We have 25K on our 19 Versys SE and we love it. This is my 26th motorcycle since I started riding 40 years ago. The bike is a good sport touring bike. It fits us for 2UP riding. I see people talking about Chain vs Shaft. I have ridden both and really it is no big deal. I like the lighter weight of a chain, but a shaft driven or chain driven bike does not sway me from buying one. It i s a "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" machine. I miss the Power of the C-14, but do not miss the weight of that machine. If you are looking for a good sport touring bike, then the Versys should be on your short list. Thanks again for the review. Ride safe!
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I'm glad that you like the video. I do have to say that having a chain wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me too but if it's there, I'll appreciate it a lot. It also depends on the specific choices that you're considering as if they would be closely matched, I also believe that a driveshaft could be the deciding factor. Cheers!
@rvail136
@rvail136 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on my 3rd Concours (1st 2 were Connie 1k's) it's the 14. It's a true sport touring bike. I'm looking to add an adventure touring bike. How does this handle on gravel and dirt roads (not trails)? I'm not ditching the Connie, as it's a superb road bike. I just want something to put into a toy hauling travel trailer and ride around national parks, battlefields and handle some road/highway travel using the trailer as a base camp. I'd be riding 2 up with my fiance, btw.
@jerryandjamie2up
@jerryandjamie2up 2 жыл бұрын
@@rvail136 Thanks for watching. To be honest with you, I never take the Big Versys off-road if I can avoid it. Too big IMHO. I have a KTM 390 that I sue for dual-sport touring. I would ride the C-14 again as it is a great machine. Just like the lighter weight and taller suspension. Sorry I was not much help.
@froglaps40
@froglaps40 2 жыл бұрын
I think the power and it's delivery is perfect for those of us not needing a supersport bike. The really nice thing is it is perfectly content in town doing 30 as it is doing 80 on the highway. And from 4k rpm on i find it thrilling enough for a street bike.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely appreciate its power delivery too - super linear and very smooth. I just wish that it could keep going and going.
@RobertLowe-j7u
@RobertLowe-j7u Ай бұрын
I live & ride in southern AZ......one of the hottest places on earth, and I do not find my '21 SE model to be overly hot on my legs. It's cooler than my last couple of bikes; a Honda VFR1200x, and a Concours 1400. Even when sitting on the interstate for prolonged periods of time at a steady 85-90 mph I did not find it uncomfortable. I love this bike.
@davidshugars947
@davidshugars947 2 жыл бұрын
I've test ridden the Ninja 100SX and the Versys 1000 and wondered why they didn't use the same tune of the engine. The Ninja feels much livelier.
@dabndangle
@dabndangle 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 19 versys and I guess because having the power at lower rpms helps get better gad milage and they wanted it to be a touring bike
@MiamiJato
@MiamiJato 2 жыл бұрын
same engine, actually, just detuned........
@ridingwithrusso7790
@ridingwithrusso7790 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the analog tach paired with digit screen. I have a 2016 versys, which I believe has the same engine, maybe it’s just because I haven’t ridden a KTM or Ducati but I don’t think the versys needs more power. 120 hp seems plenty to me, I am a smaller rider so maybe that helps. The windscreen adjuster on my 2016 is terrible, this one doesn’t seem much better, fail on Kawasaki’s part there.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and I'm glad that there's someone also enjoying the analog gauges. Cheers!
@Paul-Waldin
@Paul-Waldin 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, the 2016 versys looks MUCH better than the new ones hands down!
@sapatomaluco
@sapatomaluco Ай бұрын
I had a 2007 Honda Varadero and a 2015 Tiger Explorer 1200. I wished there were more bikes leaning towards tar than mud. It seems everybody is building adventure touring bikes having off-road in mind. I disliked the path that Triumph took by changing the engine to T-plane, with extra vibration, resembling a 2 cylinder. To me there is a market gap between mammoth bikes such as the Honda Gold-Wing, BMW K1600GT, HDs and the adventure touring, which are each day turning more adventure and less touring. I am seriously considering the Versys 1000 SE. It is interesting that your comments were asking why can't the engine rev up more (like someone who enjoys street or racing bikes better), while others may comment that it doesn't cope well with unpaved roads and gravel, while others may comment that it cannot fit a piano in the luggage compartment, lacks a 5.1 stereo system and misses the airbag. This bike seems to be tailored precisely to those - like myself - who are right in the middle and just want a neutral compromise. Not too wild. Not too off-road. Not too bulky. Just a great touring bike that can make light incursions to the other realms of motorcycling. And I like it.
@ridemfast7625
@ridemfast7625 2 жыл бұрын
Reliability and the fact it costs thousands less then any of the other bikes mentioned makes this bike attractive to many. And, their are literally hundreds of more dealers and support in the States then the Euro models. That being said, the KTM 1290 SAS is on my short list:)
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I guess that the pricing must depend a lot on a place as where I live, the prices are very close and some more fancy motorcycles can be a more attractive purchase than Versys 1000. Especially if you consider their performance advantage. I'm also looking very much at 1290 Super Adventure. I should get one in a few days if the weather is fine. Cheers!
@ridemfast7625
@ridemfast7625 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow Nor Cal = expensive. Incredible riding and weather though. As people say, thats why we pay more to live here. Looking forward to your KTM SAS review!
@robertbates1079
@robertbates1079 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely 2 up tourer ,comfy and smooth.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that indeed it feels comfortable and the engine delivers power super smoothly (except for when you keep it at 5000 RPM and above steadily).
@tazzicek
@tazzicek 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think this bike is good for beginner? I am 7ft tall, and this is only bike, that fits me well and I love it's look
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Good question that has no ideal answer. However, here - regardless of your height because I cannot imagine how you'd fit on the bike and you've got to test this yourself - I think that Versys 1000 may be a significantly better choice than some other adventure bikes because it's got lower handlebar which tends to give more control in this particular case (overall - it's not always automatically the case). I'm not sure if it wouldn't be too low for you so even putting this aside, Versys has two things that will certainly help and one that's not so great. The good things are: 1) great control and precision when riding at low speeds starting from a standstill, so you're the least likely to put it down and fall; 2) super smooth power delivery of the engine from the lowest RPM, which should never surprise you thanks to that. What's not that great is that when leaning into the corners, it's not reacting in a neutral way to brakes and throttle and that can be potentially dangerous if you attempt to ride through a corner too fast and try to brake. The bike will try to straighten up while you actually need to lean more rather than less. So if you're not planning to ride on some fast twisty roads, it may not be an obstacle. If you keep that in mind and know how to react (this would qualify you as experienced), then also no worries. Now you've got to balance these out the way you feel will work for you best. There are always some pros and cons for every bike.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
I basically like the Versys 1000 - it seems like a solid, capable sport-tourer (not adventure bike). I won't get down on it's looks because I believe V-Told that it looks better in realtime. I also won't criticize it's lack of tech because I'm a "keep it simple" type of person. But Kawasaki put too many limits on it as a touring machine... -Not shaft drive. -Fuel tank too small (5.5 gals). -Too heavy. -A little underpowered. -Awkward even in light off-road situations.
@dreadnought1984
@dreadnought1984 2 жыл бұрын
I own one of these. -Not shaft drive - Doesn't matter and keeps it light. I haven't had to adjust the chain in 14K miles. It gets lubed and waxed every 2K. It's fine. - Fuel tank - I get about 220 miles between fill ups, more than my bladder and thirst lasts. - Too Heavy - It's pretty light for a touring bike. It feels very light when you're sitting on it - Underpowered - Its ~120HP? I've never thought I needed more power than it has, and it's flat/predictable which is perfect for 2 up. It lofts the wheel in first (and second if you have a pillion) -Awkward off road - It's fine on dirt and gravel roads. It's not an Adventure bike. My only real complaint is that you can't set the cruise higher than 85MPH.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreadnought1984 Glad you're happy with it. I'll test ride a Versys 1000 based on what you wrote. But I've owned both chain drive and shaft drive, small tank and large tank, light/agile and heavy/awkward, underpowered and well-powered, and my guess is that you and I just have different standards.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thought, Craig. I think that it could have a lot of potential if Kawasaki would make it more affordable. Price-wise it competes with "the best"/the most expensive bikes but somehow comes with less stuff or stuff that's less advanced (including performance). One more comment would be that I really wouldn't be bothered with its weight. It's like with BMW R1250GS which also carries a large number of kilograms, but you really don't feel it once you start riding it. Yeah, in most everyday situations, Versys 1000 shouldn't annoy you with its weight. Cheers!
@Dave-sw2dm
@Dave-sw2dm 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreadnought1984 , I am disappointed that Kawasaki went this route instead of making the concours a full on touring bike.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow I believe you on the Versys' weight factor, but my first bike was a beastly Yamaha Super Tenere, which I traded in for the beautifully light, agile FJ-09 (aka Tracer 900) only 6 months later, and since then I've become very cynical about any bike that even LOOKS heavy! Anyways, the reviews of the new Tiger 1200 (including yours) have already reassured me that I can get a shaft drive, 8 gal tank and superior tech and still not deal with too much weight. I agree with you on the pricing problem with the Versys, although it's more likely to be discounted than it's competitors are. Still, regarding both the Versys 1000 and the VStrom 1050, I can't help looking at the Africa Twin Adventure Sports and seeing something much better in the Honda, especially off-road. I'll test ride the Versys and the AT, but the Tiger 1200 looks like my next bike. I'm tempted to ask you how things are in Poland these days, but I don't want to overload you!
@moonvee1859
@moonvee1859 2 жыл бұрын
Dear v told i like your knowledge of bikes and info
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
At your service!
@Paul-Waldin
@Paul-Waldin 2 жыл бұрын
you can also do 30mph in 6th gear and roll on the power from there...i think the bike is perfect!
@hrmacdonald4471
@hrmacdonald4471 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review V-Told. I really like the look of this bike and would like to see her dressed in full gear...side cases, tank bag, crash bars...however, chain drive is a deal breaker for me. Thank you & stay safe!
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing - I'm glad you like the video. I wonder how high that top case would end up on on this Versys. Cheers!
@benitodeorte2715
@benitodeorte2715 2 жыл бұрын
I own one from 2015, and never understood why people love cardans so much. I know near people who have spent a lot of money repairing it, and lubing really takes less than one minute to me, and all the rest of aspects are better with the chain to me
@1957Byron
@1957Byron 2 жыл бұрын
same issue with vibration i had with SX1000 ninja 2021...But mainly problem with SX1000 was ...after model 2021 with one exhaust all motorcycles are not going STRAIGHT..are pulling right side..and KAWASAKI said was normally due change from 2 exhaust to 1 .. I sold it and i am calm now.
@dowlica6909
@dowlica6909 3 ай бұрын
Hey V-Told! Could you please consider to test Ninja 1000sx? I see you are more inclined towards ADVs and ADV_looking sport tourers, but would be great to hear your thoughr on the true sport tourers like ninja 1000sx or gsx-1000 gt. Thanks in advance!
@jimangel3593
@jimangel3593 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review once again!! I am 1.90 m. Is it suitable or should I switch to KTM or BMW GS? Thank you in advance!
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow Жыл бұрын
Thanks and I'm glad that you like the review. You're pretty tall and taller than me but it should be easy to just go and sit on one of those at a dealership even without taking it for a test ride. If you can, then you'll get the best feel though, so I'd recommend that. On the other hand, you're not over 2 meters which is where the trouble starts, so I don't think that there's a reason to be worried. But if you're really huge and simply need space or like big motorcycles, then there will be a significant difference between Versys 1000 and BMW R1250GS Adventure and Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally. KTM bikes are tall but not huge in terms of width etc. They still feel manageable - more than the listed two or even an Africa Twin 1100. If you like the Versys, then maybe a Triumph Tiger 1200 with its 3-cylinder inline engine would be interest to you?
@mrEz87
@mrEz87 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 650 loved it. Still do. BUT, it lacked something and I let it go. I had the z1000 too, beast... But not a comfortable bike to have for everything like the versys. I thought the versys 1000 would be the ultimate, but so many people and reviews say it isn't. Too heavy, not the punch they thought. Kawasaki, give us a versys 900. Use the Z900 and make it as light and agile as the versys 650. Guaranteed to sell!
@guyguybass
@guyguybass Жыл бұрын
Grear effort and real honest review.. thank you
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow Жыл бұрын
Thanks and I'm glad that you like it. Cheers!
@SimpleDialogue
@SimpleDialogue 2 жыл бұрын
Really good and detailed review, could you please do the 650 model next
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I'm glad that you like it. I'd like to try the smaller Versys in some time too. I'm just not sure if any dealer has a demo bike actually. I wonder why as it should be a rather interesting choice, so they should be prepared. Let's see!
@chrisoz4929
@chrisoz4929 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow Kawasaki in Konstancin has a demo Versys 650. I was so pleased with it, I’ve just bought one - my first bike for 25 years
@ADSCoachSimonB2112
@ADSCoachSimonB2112 2 жыл бұрын
The Kawasaki is the best value at the moment at $17K AUD on special. Triumph & BMW don't discount much with the Big Flagships $27K AUD base price. Suzuki are a bit different as they hover round $15-17K but it all depends on the dealership and how much stock. The best sellers are KTM 390 Adv, BMW G310 GS & Versys X300 and it's because of the $8-9K price tag. Small bikes still outsell everything here. (the other thing to note Suzuki have dropped the DRZ400 & DR650 here they were good sellors)
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting insight. Clearly this can differ between locations so it's good to check every time without making assumptions upfront.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын
Value for money... Ii would go for the base version. Anyways a good bike for the money. Thanks for this nice review. Will you do also the base one?
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective! It makes a lot of sense I think. I won’t be riding the base one as dealers don’t even have them. Aside from the convenient suspension adjustment, they should be very, veeery similar. Cheers!
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow Thanks a lot mate. What do you think in therms of the engine comparing it with the V1050. I believe that the Versys is faster. What do you think? How faster it is? Or it just feels faster than the V-strom? Thanks for your answer.
@Speedytrip
@Speedytrip 2 жыл бұрын
My brother had the previous generation and it felt top heavy. Not a fan of the Manga designs...but this kind of package definately makes a lot of sense.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Manga design? That's a good one!
@red.riot.2280
@red.riot.2280 2 жыл бұрын
Man it’s hard to find a perfect bike in this group… any 1000cc bike should make waaay more power than this. And I agree, the looks could be better. Slim this girl down. Give it some real power. I’d be sold.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you should take a closer look at the new Tiger 900 (unless you ride with a passenger).
@red.riot.2280
@red.riot.2280 2 жыл бұрын
@Mazinblaster Z I’m just looking for something like a s1000xr. But reliable. Lol. Fingers crossed for a tracer 10.
@red.riot.2280
@red.riot.2280 2 жыл бұрын
@Mazinblaster Z I had a 18 mt10. Sold it last fall. I have a Harley as my current bike. But it’s just not cutting the mustard. Soo. I’m waiting to see what comes out next season.
@red.riot.2280
@red.riot.2280 2 жыл бұрын
@Mazinblaster Z I have a 19 streetbob I’ve modded out. It’s cool. It just lacking the power I want. Lol. And it would cost a arm and a leg to get anything more out of it. Suspension. Engine work. New brakes. Etc. Lol. I’m leaning towards long distance rides. My mt10 was fun. But it has griped also. Wish the handle bars were higher. I like the feeling of setting in the bike. Not on it. Don’t get me wrong.. it was a weapon for a “cheap” super naked.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
@Mazinblaster Z You just described the Indian FTR.
@gekkemitta8431
@gekkemitta8431 2 жыл бұрын
Versys 1000 se vs Tracer 9 comparison?
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's going to come at some point. I think it would be interesting to put them head-to-head.
@ItsAllJustBollox
@ItsAllJustBollox 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned both the Versys 1000 GT and last model Tracer the 900GT the Tracer is lighter better handling and more fun to ride the Versys is a big comfy armchair sort of bike.
@sschrock3776
@sschrock3776 Жыл бұрын
I own one of these, and I will say that it is a fun nimble bike with a great suspension… downside… pretty buzzy engine… you feel it the bars and pegs at around 4K. Brakes are solid, not sure why Vtold is experiencing soft front brakes… guessing his has air in the lines. I give the bike a solid grade of B… Not as good as a GS, but also a lot less $$$
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. It was a dealer's demo but that wasn't new but I'm expecting them to keep it in perfect shape.
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 2 жыл бұрын
Do 650! It is the internet's darling bike right now.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, interesting. This may be a good idea.
@AndyGSATractor
@AndyGSATractor 2 жыл бұрын
loves my gen 1 I had for 7 years but the new ones we heaver and had the same power so went with bmw shame I did love my gen 1
@kevinrobb86
@kevinrobb86 2 жыл бұрын
Of the reviews, I've seen it's a capable bike and as you say it looks different in the flesh
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you don't need it for offroading, it can do the job. Definitely better to see it with your own eyes as weirdly enough, pictures make it look way worse.
@davidshugars947
@davidshugars947 2 жыл бұрын
The US only gets the Versys 1000 with bags. If you factor the bags into the equation it ends up being about 4k or more less than the S1000XR. I definitely wouldn't take the Versys over the XR at the same price point.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you choose it over the XR? That would be an interesting choice I think, however I see at least three big reasons now. But I also see some in favor of the XR.
@pacomena5791
@pacomena5791 2 жыл бұрын
Debe ser bastante alta, no llegas con los pies planos al suelo y tu mides 1,83m. Te costaba mucho manejarla en parado, digamos comparada con una 1250gs?
@seanengel3647
@seanengel3647 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great review. What I find really interesting is how the concept of the bike changes from the 650 version to the 1000. The 650 is a giant beater, so good in so many areas. You would think the 1000 would be just better and more power, more towards the Tracer MT 09. But it's not. They went in a completely different direction. The 650 is the Versys to get, IMO.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I hope I can get the 650 for some time to be able to see how they compare. Thanks for sharing it, you've just made me even more interested.
@Russelvanable
@Russelvanable 2 жыл бұрын
The versys 650 I used can go head to head on winding uphill roads. MT-09 leaves me behind on straights and flat lands though.
@bjornunder
@bjornunder 2 жыл бұрын
They are, in effect, two totally different motorcycles, with a common name. I´m happy with my 1000.
@Loiczzr
@Loiczzr 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 650 that I bought used (2500 miles....) last October. Its a nice little bike that I use to commute to work with everyday and often go on longer ride with my 12 years old son. Did.a few 600 miles.trip solo. To be honest I am used.to a lot more power and torque (had a zzr1200 for 8 years, rode 84k miles.with it) for a 650 the power is ok but not great, it run out of steam quickly. I'm not going to keep it for too long to get something that will fit my need better. The 650 is a fun "little" bike.
@justinneill5003
@justinneill5003 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely like it, probably what I need but at a shade under 5’8” I’m already on the balls of my feet with the Z1000SX and I believe this seat is 10cm higher. Anyone riding this with 29” inside leg?
@Loiczzr
@Loiczzr 2 жыл бұрын
I sat on the versys 1000 and it wasn't bad at all (30" inseam) the shape of the seat, suspension Type of pants and boots you are using do make a big difference.
@stiggy3833
@stiggy3833 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am about 5'8 with 29" inside leg. I bought a new versys 1000 last year. My local kawasaki dealer offered a suspension lowering kit option which was quite cheap. The lowering kit was made by Lust Racing and was recommended and supplied by my local kawa dealer. There are I believe 3 different lowering levels and I had a 1" lowering kit fitted and can get both feet flat on the ground. My only complaint is the uncomfortable seat.
@ed.t.hansen6499
@ed.t.hansen6499 Жыл бұрын
tiger gt pro // tracer 9gt price comparison. ; All above harley prices for touring
@Fernando90054
@Fernando90054 2 жыл бұрын
Hi V-Told✌️ Thanks for the review. This was one of the Kawasaki bikes which I was eager to know and to have an opinion, once that the Dealership normally they don’t give potential customers the opportunity to ride test their upper bikes. I,my self can’t give that kind of money without test ride the machine and maybe because of that reason I ended to decide buying a KTM SDGT once that at the time I was interested in the Kawasaki 1000 H2 SX and the dealership didn’t have or weren’t prepared or is not their commercial policy to turn available that opportunity to customers …🙄🤔🙁!? By the way, have you ever tested the KTM SDGT? Would like to know your opinions about this bike. Thank you for another excellent bike review ✌️✌️
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I totally get it and would never now buy a motorcycle without riding it first. Knowing how much they can differ and how enjoyable some can be while others - even for the same money - may completely not suit us, I believe that this is the only right way. Funny thing is that I was struggling a lot here with KTM to find me a bike while Kawasaki has plenty of Versys 1000 units across their dealerships. I'll be getting as 1290 Super adventure in 4 days but I'm told that there's no way that they'll have a 1290 Super Duke GT. I'm fascinated by it but probably Super Adventure would suit my preferences better anyway. What a weird policy of manufacturers (it's often not even dealers' choice!) to not provide "samples" of their products before buying. All the best and I hope that you're happy with SDGT.
@Fernando90054
@Fernando90054 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow thanks for taking time to reply. Ho yes! Today, after some 6.000kms of riding my bike I can say that it is more reliable than the general opinion says (didn’t experienced it in the rain yet, only in the cold environment and it seemed like home for this bike). The electronics, in the first couple of thousand Kms, felt at the beginning, quite a sensible spot, although the system appears to have an auto restore program that when you restart it, everything comes alive and well, after a while. And beyond the first 2000 kms the general failure messages stoped to pop out. The engine is the same of its taller sister (which is more appealing to riders in general for its all around characteristics bike). I mainly ride on road and quickly understood that the big heavy off road bikes were not the best choice for me. I now ride on longer journeys the BMW 1250 RT, with a pillion and some luggage, it’s perfect. My SDGT is equipped with the side panniers and I mostly ride it alone, for fun and going to work on a powerful and safe bike. It really enhances the pleasure of daily riding a bike! The stock windshield is a little short but I got a smokescreen from Puig that bettered the protection and added beauty to the bike as it is a very well designed part, specially made for the SDGT and now I’m fully served for some time, I hope. Keeping to follow your very interesting channel, and always alert to your next video, I send you my warm regards ✌️✌️
@froglaps40
@froglaps40 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, I agree, i usually find it hard to buy without a test ride. However, I bought a new in stock 2020 SE LT in Philly, while I was working in Ohio. I bought the bike unseen, and hadn't even seen one in person, let alone riding one. I was determined I would make it work. And boy am I glad did. I knew the seat height was a bit high for me, so I had them lower it by 2", add a rear trunk, and add the driving lights.. all in all, I got the bike they had listed for $15,999 for $17,300 out the door.. still $1k cheaper than the identical 2022 bike. Even saved on the insurance due to it being a 2020 model. I love it. Interesting fact, my last bike was a 2013 Goldwing, this bike has a 485 lb load rating, which is higher than the current Goldwing. I do miss the radio though..lol
@froglaps40
@froglaps40 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't including sales tax, as I Live in NY, and paid that at the DMV when i registered it.
@ohiobackroads1548
@ohiobackroads1548 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. I disagree with your price comparison. Your price comparison is full retail to retail. As we all know the Versys can be purchased at a much lower price than the brands you was comparing most times at half the price in the states if you shop responsibly. I purchased my new 2019 SE LT with retail price $17.999 for $11.300. Try to get the BMW to give you any kind if a deal. Thanks and safe riding.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, gotta check local prices.
@HS99876
@HS99876 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, a bike this powerful is not made for city( traffic) riding, specially in summer, unless you must!! Made for highways!!
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and well, I actually enjoyed it in the city - it was doing a very, very good job. Better than most in terms of making me feel like it's confident out there.
@Loiczzr
@Loiczzr 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I had a zzr 1200 for 8 years and commute to work everyday with it, Las Vegas traffic... absolutely no problems.
@serguti
@serguti 2 жыл бұрын
Suzuki GSX 1000 GT please… waiting for your review
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. It looks kind of cool but also seems to be leaning a lot into the sporty style, which not necessarily suits me personally at the moment.
@jubamas0
@jubamas0 Жыл бұрын
Versys 1000 SE compression ratio 10.3 : 1 👍
@Dave-sw2dm
@Dave-sw2dm 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why some reviewers have to put "honest" in their titles. Are they implying that the other reviewers arent being honest, or are they focussing on the negatives instead of the positives? Or are they just using the marketing technique of used car salesmen?
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, in social media nowadays "honest" is something that you don't see often. Most reviews come from journalists who live off of them and if they don't play the strategically beneficial game with brands, they simply don't get invited to ride motorcycles or drive cars. If they don't have access, they cannot earn, so there's no way to not be in their pocket. If you're dependant on them, your review cannot be honest as it's influenced by external factors. Also, if you get invited to an expensive presentation-holiday-abroad, or get a bike for a week for free, or get paid to feature it in Social Media, then of course you'll want to at least say your thank you by making a positive review. I've been there too. But on the other side... And it's terrible as no one can trust anyone online anymore. So I've decided to rent the bikes on my own just like any other customer would and not inform anyone that I'm about to make a review. I believe that this qualifies as fair and honest. I also don't own a competing bike to any of the ones that I ride and review. I hope that this explains it better as I believe that it's SUPER IMPORTANT. And also rare.
@craigfinnegan8534
@craigfinnegan8534 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow In the long run, your approach is the right one - staying independent so you're free to be fully honest, not semi-honest. The main reason is that most motorcyclists are more straightforward, independent-minded, and realistic than the average KZbin viewers. Plus, motorcycles are just too expensive to mislead buyers with - it's an ethical issue affecting viewer's finances. Speaking for myself, I can assure you the reviewers who keep everything (suspiciously) positive all the time lose my trust and my views. They also bore me, since the most extreme among them seem like they're just giving a glorified sales pitch. The only counterpoint I can think of is that the personality of the presenter counts for a lot among viewers. But you're doing fine there also.
@Dave-sw2dm
@Dave-sw2dm 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow , thanks for taking the time to explain. That makes a lot of sense. I first saw it as your marketing ploy to get your videos viewed, which I'm sure that is part of it. "You can trust me because I am not beholden to the manufacturer.", but I I do want you to view my videos. I watch reviews, but also peruse the forums for the specific bikes to read about all the issues and challenges people are having. If you only go to the forums you wouldn't buy much, that's for sure. Good luck growing your channel.
@a.c.7541
@a.c.7541 2 жыл бұрын
Where's the KTM video? 😔
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Coming this Sunday the 7th of August! Or maybe even tomorrow, so on Saturday. Let’s see! But the KTM is SOMETHING!
@petraklavcic6196
@petraklavcic6196 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 model, just did first 100.k km. only oil and air filter changes.No valve tuning, 40.k km on one 525 chain...The only conplain is that is too quiet, makes it dangerous becouse animals, cyclists... cant hear you. Too litle power? It got 6th. place in 2015 PikesPeak race, overtaken only by factory Ducati Multistradas.If somebody wants more power, a full Arow system makes hudge diference, in sound as well.
@Snotroggel453
@Snotroggel453 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese bikes can last almost a lifetime with only oil/filter changes, if you use high quality synthetic oils😁
@yanzm6713
@yanzm6713 Жыл бұрын
It's a Sport Touring bike not an adventure bike. And it's far more reliable than European counter parts.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow Жыл бұрын
This topic is really very unclear while the name of "adventure" may seem sexy to many, including manufacturers themselves. I would agree with that point of view in fact. About reliability - maybe, maybe. It would make sense to learn how many of those Kawasaki sold to be able to draw any meaningful conclusions about it though.
@rv6891
@rv6891 2 жыл бұрын
How tall r u bro?
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 183 cm tall or 6 feet tall.
@vageliskoios1062
@vageliskoios1062 2 жыл бұрын
Strange look..650 versys is much more beautiful..Models till 21..Also expensive for what it offers..
@sschrock3776
@sschrock3776 Жыл бұрын
Also… It has plenty of Horsepower. 120 ish and not that slow… Yes… its not a Ducati… but its also not going to cost a fortune to own
@jokur6173
@jokur6173 2 жыл бұрын
Spodnie rypard ? Te moro?
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
To portki BDU od MFH w kamuflażu Urban.
@jokur6173
@jokur6173 2 жыл бұрын
@@VToldsMotoShow ok myślałem że może motocyklowe rypard na testy.
@NoShadowOfDoubt1
@NoShadowOfDoubt1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I was going to say when will you review this piece of $hit bike. Just traded it in for an 2022 XR. Wobbly @ 80 mph, sloppy and crap quick shifter, bicycle type air valves. ..the BT connection is a joke by the way
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I see that there must be really something weird with that quickshifter then! Thanks for mentioning that.
@paracha3
@paracha3 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I would like you to change is do more drive review and while driving do not do voice over. Your videos are mostly talk and not getting real ride sound and feel videos.
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow Жыл бұрын
I used to do that in the past in my videos. Check out this guy who still records riding POV just with bikes' sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5qrXnqOis-Hnck
@intergalacticbasketballdro7186
@intergalacticbasketballdro7186 2 жыл бұрын
With a 17" front wheel, the Versys IS NOT an ADV Motorcycle. It's a Sport / Touring Motorcycle. (Nothing more / Nothing less.)
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Following that, Multistrada V4 would stop being an adventure bike in its Pikes Peak version with an 17" front wheel. While I'd say that it likely retains all of its advantages of an adv bike. Adventure doesn't mean offroad. Most of those don't see gravel - and I personally consider that fair.
@a.c.7541
@a.c.7541 2 жыл бұрын
Parental guidance 🤣🤣🤣
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Dangerous times ;)
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
I dont for the life of me understand WHY Kawasaki thinks this bike warrants such a high msrp considering it is an out and out PIG of a model! Its the better part of a HUNDRED pounds heavier than for example a Tracer 9gt! I took one glance at the ridiculous weight and lost ALL intrest! Frankly I dont know what people are thinking buying this PIG
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow Жыл бұрын
Haha, apparently the prices can differ a ton for this bike depending on a market.
@nickdolan7710
@nickdolan7710 2 жыл бұрын
You said "I wish my unit was green"
@VToldsMotoShow
@VToldsMotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
Now that you pointed it out, only one “thing” came to my mind. Is that THE thing that could be called a unit?!
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