VTuber Tropes: The Gremlin and the War Criminal

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Depressed Nousagi

Depressed Nousagi

8 ай бұрын

Being one of the most popular tropes of all time, the Gremlin and the War Criminal are a very profitable, and very common trope that many VTubers embody, and in this video. We unravel that.
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@Angrenost02
@Angrenost02 8 ай бұрын
The hammer of karma falling upon Pekora's smugness will always be top comical content.
@GameSpreePH
@GameSpreePH 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Millie’s hat has more parasocial fans than Millie
@shaoronmd
@shaoronmd 8 ай бұрын
RIP Millie's hat
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 8 ай бұрын
o7
@Dyleniz
@Dyleniz 8 ай бұрын
I miss Millies hat
@LGKamina
@LGKamina 7 ай бұрын
That hat has very seductive curves, unlike millie😊
@somerandomdude3729
@somerandomdude3729 6 ай бұрын
As a tf2 player I am obliged to ask for the hat.
@moisesfreire6408
@moisesfreire6408 8 ай бұрын
It's safe to say "War Criminal trope" was specifically single handedly set by Pekora.
@gammathefool
@gammathefool 8 ай бұрын
Actually, Jesters did run a risk of being "Graduated" if the news they brought displeased the king or got him in a foul mode, it was more the role of lovable fool that didn't know better that acted as a shield (so it is actually a very apt analogy)
@ifdy1361
@ifdy1361 8 ай бұрын
Graduated from the face of the earth
@malcovich_games
@malcovich_games 8 ай бұрын
The royalty's level of tolerance for a jester is much higher than the average citizen at least (otherwise they wouldn't have the job in the first place). An average peasant would be "graduated" much faster for a joke than the jester. Though there's still definitely a limit that depends on the jester's employer.
@ZAV1944
@ZAV1944 5 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that Jesters often were mentally handicapped in some way. Not sure if this is true but may also contribute to why they could get away with some things, the king could be like: "The court jester doth be an idiot and a fool thus the weight of his words beith none."
@lolialf
@lolialf 8 ай бұрын
think we all can agree Pekora is the peak in this archetype
@Chamadzero
@Chamadzero 8 ай бұрын
She is the whole archetype
@kilan4978
@kilan4978 8 ай бұрын
Great vid, kinda shocking you didnt mention chibidoki and using her as an example of someone who is at constant war with her chat
@yohannbiimu
@yohannbiimu 8 ай бұрын
My favorite is Sakura Miko shouting at everyone "GO HOME!" as she snipes them, or getting upset that nobody is paying any attention to her as she's committing atrocities in broad daylight.
@risktorise2103
@risktorise2103 8 ай бұрын
That's an interesting way to explain a gremlin troupe. Regarding a tomboy hag ,I wonder if Matara can be considered close to such troupe.
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE 8 ай бұрын
Shondo and Pippa are my Gremlins !
@VexValac
@VexValac 8 ай бұрын
I find it funny that whenever she's with other gremlins, she tends to become the voice of reason, lol
@GameFuMaster
@GameFuMaster 8 ай бұрын
seems like being a "gremlin" is almost the default for all female vtubers now,
@inendlesspain4724
@inendlesspain4724 8 ай бұрын
@@VexValac True, she's the sanest gremlin in the VTuber community.
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo 8 ай бұрын
The blue gremlin who got eaten by a shark is one of the few people who could make jokes at the expenses of her target audience (and by extension herself) without gaining animosity. Her weeaboo song is literally mocking us all.
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 8 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that a "gremlin" was just a girl with a high pitch voice. Oh, how wrong I was. Very informative video. Also, yeah, a hag tomboy would be interesting. Or a tomboy mommy.
@Solus749
@Solus749 8 ай бұрын
a tomboy is just a female with some intrests that some consider male...there is nothing special about it...as in why should intrests be genderflagged at all?
@viljamtheninja
@viljamtheninja 8 ай бұрын
While I do absolutely love it when karma bites Pekora in the ass, I usually find it even funnier when her nefarious plans succeed. It's like South Park episodes where Cartman wins just by being absolutely horrible and never learns anything.
@soasertsus
@soasertsus 8 ай бұрын
That's the duality of Pekora. It's fun to see her succeed and be unapologetically smug and toxic about it while laughing like a gremlin, and then that smug attitude makes it equally fun when she fails in dramatic ways because she had it coming for being such a sore winner all the other times.
@Nyartatouille
@Nyartatouille 4 ай бұрын
Like that time when she 1 vs the World in Rust 😂
@RambleOn07
@RambleOn07 8 ай бұрын
Tenma Maemi bullies blind people, that's why she's my oshi.
@liettdyved8633
@liettdyved8633 8 ай бұрын
I can't see how that's funny
@viljamtheninja
@viljamtheninja 8 ай бұрын
@@liettdyved8633 Then gid gud eyesight, scrub
@muzummilkhan7713
@muzummilkhan7713 8 ай бұрын
​@@liettdyved8633i do
@goldopals557
@goldopals557 8 ай бұрын
@@liettdyved8633 it’s because you’re soft
@drakonemperor144
@drakonemperor144 8 ай бұрын
​@@liettdyved8633you can't even see in the first place
@lianaverwood9810
@lianaverwood9810 8 ай бұрын
Much of the Subsets of the Tropes you cover are generally created from Synergistic Combinations of Tropes: In this case, the Hobgoblin is the Gremlin Trope usually comboed with the Tomboy or Menhua Trope; and the War Criminal is Gremlin comboed with Schizo or Hag; other combinations can create similar Subsets, though not all are suitable for the VTubing Scene; still, with extremely skillful Performance, potentially any Trope Combo could be given justice... For Instance, Hololive's Akai Haato originally fell under the Seiso Idol Trope, before an event Isolated her somewhere she couldn't effectively do her Job from. She took this as an opportunity to Reimagine her Character, and implemented the Schizo Trope to unleash a Second Persona of the Gremlin-Schizo War Criminal Trope named HAACHAMA - she used the Dual Persona Gimmick to combine many more Tropes than the average VTuber could handle, and pulled it all off Flawlessly, leading to both Personas to each have their own Dedicated Fanbases and eventually requiring her to Merge the Two for Balance! This is evidence that with enough Skill, a VTuber could pull off almost any Set of Tropes in a way Fans can appreciate...
@swordsman1_messer
@swordsman1_messer 8 ай бұрын
War criminals, tomboy hags and gremlins? Nousagi, can I introduce you to Whiskey_Project, the Tactical Tomboy VTuber?
@chrisgonzalez2744
@chrisgonzalez2744 8 ай бұрын
Love the monogatari music in the background it oddly fits the theme of the video
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 8 ай бұрын
Imo Hololive have 4 of the best members when it comes to this trope. Pekora,subaru,miko,kobo. I know kobo is a brat but she has her comedian moments.
@yohannbiimu
@yohannbiimu 8 ай бұрын
0:26 I love this scene from Monty Python And The Holy Grail.
@TheAHuman
@TheAHuman 8 ай бұрын
It is pretty clear that the gremlin modifier is the most popular vtuber trait given its prevalence in the top vtubers.
@nathanmccarthy7910
@nathanmccarthy7910 8 ай бұрын
You know those play-by-play breakdowns/analyses of books/movies? I would love to watch one treating Pejora’s entire history/lore as one story
@Razorcarl
@Razorcarl 8 ай бұрын
PEKORA LETS GOOOOOOOOO
@NyanaBanyana
@NyanaBanyana 8 ай бұрын
Gremlin Vtuber represent 🙌 Really indept video , cool.
@hamaskuy6416
@hamaskuy6416 8 ай бұрын
Everyone wake up, DN just uploaded new video
@assaulthetz
@assaulthetz 8 ай бұрын
Pekora literally kicked that trope by herself, with sacrifices of the MC villagers.
@SheepShade
@SheepShade Ай бұрын
Biboo is the gremlinest Gremlin to ever gremlin
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 8 ай бұрын
About time DN talked about his Primarch, Usadius Pekoman :p Jokes aside, this is well-thought out 😮
@do811
@do811 8 ай бұрын
4:22 UUUUOOOOOGGGHHH gura is so hydrodynamic 😭😭😭
@xXxS3ph1r0thxx420xXX
@xXxS3ph1r0thxx420xXX 8 ай бұрын
"You're the Vtuber documentary expert??? Well i didn't vote for you!"
@Ookami9035
@Ookami9035 8 ай бұрын
gremlin is the best vtuber tropes imagine pekora, kobo, tenma, chibidoki, filian, and shondo in one stream
@Aereto
@Aereto 8 ай бұрын
Pekora is in the Looney Tunes tier of comedy, where schemes tend to blow up in their faces while they gloat when they win and apologize when they lose. She didn't create that trope, but very well is a great example of it.
@hunlepto2239
@hunlepto2239 8 ай бұрын
Oh boy, can't wait for you to tackle the menhera trope.
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys 8 ай бұрын
Pekora. Enough Said.
@cw666thebeast
@cw666thebeast 8 ай бұрын
I see a deadly amount of Shondo in this video.
@k-CapoXXIV
@k-CapoXXIV 8 ай бұрын
There is a concerning lack of Laplus in this video in my honest opinion. She couldn't be a more perfect choice for the gremlin who's both a massive troll and gets trolled in response by the fans, but also has proven to be really funny, endearing and easy to empathize with. The gap moe truly is strong with this one.
@dragonvich2007
@dragonvich2007 8 ай бұрын
Tomboy and hag…yeah that’s actually a good point. We don’t have that combination
@conspiracyspider
@conspiracyspider 8 ай бұрын
I mean technically we do but the models that are used are on the teenage side rather than the traditional hag.
@RyuClaudius
@RyuClaudius 7 ай бұрын
Pekora's last stand during the Rust S2's season finale forever will be etched as Pekora's best war criminal act.
@autismandgaming4532
@autismandgaming4532 8 ай бұрын
Oh sweet Arson
@amstrad00
@amstrad00 8 ай бұрын
This video has me thinking about Zentreya. I feel like she could easily fit into the war criminal category as discussed in this video.. but she overall doesn't feel like a gremlin as she doesn't have the cute thing going on.
@grialinfo4426
@grialinfo4426 8 ай бұрын
I only want to say one thing: I really love this terrible and evil war criminal.
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 8 ай бұрын
Here is my main problem with Gremlins, on the example of Selen, because she is one of my favorites, it really hurts the enjoyment when they play or do something serious, but they are not able to take something serious. Like when playing a story game that has heavy themes, they might just laugh over it, which some people might find nice because it makes the topic lighter to digest, but I think, because being a gremlin is that easy, there are too few that actually take stuff seriously. So, while I enjoy some goofy game with a gremlin streamer, when it comes to serious stuff I find it destructive to the enjoyment when a gremlin can't take stuff seriously.
@Digsidian
@Digsidian 8 ай бұрын
I remember the halcyon days of Overwatch's community, when Gremlin Dva memes were plentiful.
@Doom_Guy__
@Doom_Guy__ 8 ай бұрын
We need a tomboy vtuber tropes video next.
@GamingDreamer
@GamingDreamer 8 ай бұрын
What tropes Selen Tatsuke is?
@undercovertakodachi4301
@undercovertakodachi4301 8 ай бұрын
5:05 you are up to something with that tomboy Hag.....
@cakeCrumbzz
@cakeCrumbzz 8 ай бұрын
👍🏾
@AndrewS-vu4ji
@AndrewS-vu4ji 8 ай бұрын
HOB GOBBLIN DEEZ NU-
@deftteacher87
@deftteacher87 3 ай бұрын
What da dog doin?
@ZynkOxhyde
@ZynkOxhyde 8 ай бұрын
Wonder where Uto now 😢
@PaulBen19
@PaulBen19 8 ай бұрын
Talk about the menhera trope next
@VictorOng99
@VictorOng99 8 ай бұрын
Man, imagine time travel back to ww2 and tell everyone War Criminal is a goofy quirky tropes.
@oak..
@oak.. 6 ай бұрын
the law isn't gon take that too well..
@kitsunesden8085
@kitsunesden8085 8 ай бұрын
I want to follow Pekora and Pippa's path
@ig33ku
@ig33ku 6 ай бұрын
Hobgoblin example Creeprys x Bae
@Bam_Bizzler
@Bam_Bizzler 8 ай бұрын
Gremlins gotta be one of my favorite genders
@AtelierGod
@AtelierGod 8 ай бұрын
5:17 cause they fear it.
@Riley26
@Riley26 8 ай бұрын
Tenma my beloved lolibaba war criminal chihuahua
@stevemanart
@stevemanart 8 ай бұрын
>Usada Pekora >Pipkin Pippa >Punkalopi >Laran Bonnie All bnuuys are warcrimes
@k-CapoXXIV
@k-CapoXXIV 8 ай бұрын
Let's be real for a sec, Bugs Bunny IS the quintessential war criminal wabbit for 80+ years and counting.
@stevemanart
@stevemanart 8 ай бұрын
@_zapatoz_ The Joke > [here] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Your head >[Here]
@stevemanart
@stevemanart 8 ай бұрын
@_zapatoz_ thank you for proving me right
@kushantaiidan
@kushantaiidan 8 ай бұрын
Did you say Loli type chuubas can't do GFE? Or shouldn't?
@DepressedNousagi
@DepressedNousagi 8 ай бұрын
Not recommended, but if you can make yourself look like such and dont give a shit what twitter thinks or can take the screaming or even revel in it, then you can
@sambuddy4465
@sambuddy4465 8 ай бұрын
@@DepressedNousagibroooooooo… may pipino na sa holostars… LMAO
@SunnyKimDev
@SunnyKimDev 8 ай бұрын
6:47
@Jyukenmaster95
@Jyukenmaster95 8 ай бұрын
5:06 Tomboy Hag? I think it would've been Callie, if she were older & ppl didn't already call her Daddy
@nonsense0000
@nonsense0000 8 ай бұрын
Why is this guy still making video lol😂bro lied about quiting
@bansaiboy
@bansaiboy 8 ай бұрын
So.. we talking about gremlin and chibi not getting mentioned ONCE? brother do you even do your homework?!
@zetroll0372
@zetroll0372 8 ай бұрын
0:52 why not both at the same time and tap that clussy.
@SofaLights
@SofaLights 8 ай бұрын
How do I differentiate a gremiln vtuber from a child?
@hang_kentang6709
@hang_kentang6709 8 ай бұрын
easy, one of them is going to invite some guys in a tactical gear to your house.
@SofaLights
@SofaLights 8 ай бұрын
@@hang_kentang6709 Is it the child?
@nkyfong
@nkyfong 8 ай бұрын
Depends.
@joemommaoramma7090
@joemommaoramma7090 8 ай бұрын
bruh i hate it when people intentionally try and be gremlins. YOU ARE NOT THERE TO BE "Teehee, I'm so silly and goofy" YOU ARE HERE TO BE ARRESTED FOR AGGREVATED SHABOINGERY. BE THE PROBLEM. If you can't fully commit to it, then just don't. Also if you're an aspiring gremlin then come up with original jokes. your mom jokes arent funny, hell, arson jokes are so incredibly cringe because they are so oversused. Please play it smart people.
@chrismath149
@chrismath149 8 ай бұрын
You don't actually think peasants had no access to art, do you? I mean, passing stories on by mouth was the first way by which we were entertained. Richer peasants (yes, they existed) also owned very decorative pieces of furniture. Folk story tellers memorized entire ballads while in antiquity, literacy was often defined by being able to recite works of arts while reading was only a way to store it (reading by yourself was a later invention). Maybe don't take historic information presented by entertainment companies at face value. Also, a king had no way to figure out what peasants said about him. The centralized structure required to execute defamation laws would only be reached later on (absolutism). Medieval administration was very localized and concentrated on other things (getting taxes).
@ThePrastomo
@ThePrastomo 8 ай бұрын
Huh?😺
@chrismath149
@chrismath149 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePrastomo Content creator is wrong about the prevalence of entertainment in older times. How did you pass elementary?
@hunlepto2239
@hunlepto2239 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePrastomo Man, if you have nothing useful to add to a discussion, don't even talk
@nkyfong
@nkyfong 8 ай бұрын
Ok, chill. This is a video on Vtuber gremlins, not a historical essay.
@ThePrastomo
@ThePrastomo 8 ай бұрын
I imply the message I tell here is, why this commentator above brings the minor topic of the videos in vtuber videos with vvtuber audiences. I'll consider my comment has same nuance as "r/whoosh". You know what, my bad, for giving this comment a stage.
@Korgmeister
@Korgmeister 8 ай бұрын
"Why isn't there a Tomboy hag in HoloEN?" Excuse me, what the fuck is Nerissa meant to be, then?
@simshengvue4642
@simshengvue4642 8 ай бұрын
Horrible video. Not enough Pekora
@monterasta47
@monterasta47 8 ай бұрын
Much prompt, no real substance 🫠
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