VW Arteon Review // Great car but $$

[@LarryLewis-sz1dx]

In October, I bought a 22 SEL that was a compacy certified car. I saved 7K from a new one and received over a year more of warranty. It had about 7K in miles. It is the best car I have ever owned and feel glad tha you have lived with something like this for years successfully. My wife wanted an SUV, but I drove a number of them ( Audi Q#, Q5, Volvo xc60, and BMW X1) and none drove like the Arteon.

[@Arcticarc1]

That A7 is one of my favorite car. While the Arteon is a really a nice looking car, it is too expensive. Would choose the stinger all day.

[@toorop111]

Arcticarc1 the A7 is way more expensive; what are you talking about?????

[@Arcticarc1]

@@toorop111 don't remember the video, but did they not talk about both models in the video? Was just commenting the video

[@WhiteMoonLights]

no not expensive in some country this costs double price coz of taxes and their income is quarter of an avarage canadian.

[@Dirk_Diggler]

I have this car and love it. I think what you are missing is back seat space. The stinger has much less headroom and legroom in the back and seats in the stinger are not nearly as comfortable. That is what pushed me to the Arteon

[@RealtimeReviews613]

"Fast backs, lift backs" make you wonder why regular sedans even exist

[@Bartonovich52]

I like my real sedan. The cargo capacity is a myth. My Civic has 25 cu ft of cargo space but my Impala only has 19. Which car do you think can actually fit more stuff? Nobody is loading these cars up to the hatch glass and roof, blocking rear visibility and creating the potential for projectiles under hard braking.

[@AL-kc4kg]

@@Bartonovich52 complete wide open from trunk to folded second roll seats makes a big difference, it’s a good alternative besides ugly suvs and traditional sedans

[@MikeMUFC91]

Got my 2021 Arteon in July and it's the best car I've ever owned. Glad I waited for the updates! I never see another one on the road and I like that. Very exclusive. I just wish it came with the same power as the Golf R from the factory considering it's supposed to be VW's Halo car. However, my car has the APR+ tune and I'm around 360hp now. Feels really quick and it retains all the same characteristics. APR+ allowed me to keep some warranty too.

[@thisisntsergio1352]

I was about to say tune it when I read that you wanted more power. I'm glad you did!

[@bodiroga96]

What updates ?

[@teerexness]

I live in the middle of the USA and I will 100% guarantee that the reason we don't see Arteon's is because the local VW dealers have become SUV stores. They don't have cars, post-Covid. Hard to sell what you don't carry and what people haven't even seen. It's kind of tragic, because there's so much to love in the new VWs.

[@stefonthemove]

Agree! I live in Ohio and nothing but SUV and Cross Overs. I saw one of these at a dealership and immediately caught my eye. Going back to test drive :)

[@teerexness]

@@stefonthemove My son bought one. It's kind of like a unicorn around these parts! It's impressive in every way.

[@reitsmaassociates]

Nice review! A7 is a stunner too, love the lift back practically, just kills sedans for true usability. The front would have to be one of the best on an affordable production car.

[@HooblyBoobly]

I can't wait to pick one of these up as a gently used example in 2-3 years when it is worth 40% of its original price.

[@DerekJamesMandy]

Because there's zero context with the carcost ad at the beginning. Carcost doesn't mean you get the car at cost. It also doesn't mean you get the car brought down to cost and then have applicable incentives applied. It is a shopping tool to keep you informed and get a fair deal and make sure you aren't being charged for non mandatory fees. The package provided even explains this and gives you a guideline to work with.

[@kmier2000]

Stinger is a thoroughly enjoyable car to drive. Its only downside is the badge and an occasional rattle. And yes 100 hp makes a hell of a difference. That v6 is a madman.

[@fycfyc1]

This car will go down the same route as the Touareg and CC. Need the T-roc here in NA

[@silkhead44]

hopefully the fit and finish in the interior is good...my 2019 jetta r line...buzzes, clicks and rattles

[@zuti071]

And you start your sentence with small letter and didn't finish it with period. Your life really sucks.

[@powerofpinesol8002]

zuti071 and you have no life

[@zuti071]

@@powerofpinesol8002 Afcourse i don't, but i wouldn't change mine for yours. Period.

[@ballysohal9770]

It's ofcourse dickhead

[@ezbacc]

itll be the same as your jetta - the interiors are the same across the board (jetta/golf/tiguan/arteon). Take it from someone with a Tig in the family, it has lots of plastic.

[@harrycee656]

I would love to have more power, but the mpg on the VW 2.0T is attractive. With the upsize in power and the DSG on 2022 and beyond, I think the power advantage of the stinger is gone. 0-60 on the Arteon is now 4.6-4.8s. I have good luck with all my VW with 2.0T. Packed on 160k-170k miles each time with no major issues before the "itch" overcame me.

[@sinappanis]

Not sure if the prices are that much different in canada but in the states the arteon comes in about 2000 less then the cheaper stinger with the v6 and the arteon comes with more features. So it just comes down to whether you want to drive fast or have more goodies.

[@pjay1281]

Mmmm I think 🤔🤔🤔 the KIA STINGER is a better choice. With a 100,000 miles powertrain warranty and a 65,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty. Rear wheel drive chassis. That’s perfect👌. VW reliability? Mmm nope I’m good.

[@lucienl9465]

VW has bad realibilty? lmao it's head to head with Toyota on sales. only North Americans think that way

[@flypawels]

Love the car, but the price is high. I think, I will go with another Passat.

[@MrNemo721]

Needs a proper R-Version with >300HP

[@nickolastiguan]

That'd be like $60k CAD 😂

[@MrNemo721]

@@nickolastiguan Yup, but If you're going to make an overpriced flagship car that's going to be a sales failure anyway, might as well go all the way with performance LOL.

[@LouAntonioGiordano]

nickolas Without taxes. With those two packages and destination fees it’s already $60g CAD.

[@nickolastiguan]

@@LouAntonioGiordano to be fair, a fully loaded GTI is only a bit under $3000 less than the R. Without 4Motion and a less powerful engine. So if VW were to do a Arteon R, they can probably price it around $50k CAD. But yeah, I get what you mean. I'd get one used, if I were in the market for one. Because I bet it will depreciate like a rock, just like the CC.

[@backseatdriver8902]

404 hp turbo vr6 3.oT

[@guy420man]

Thank god the price is more reasonable here in the USA.

[@nickolastiguan]

How much USD?

[@guy420man]

@@nickolastiguan starts at like 34K up to high 40s.

[@nickolastiguan]

@@guy420man so $34k USD is about $44600 CAD, at today's exchange rate. We only get the Execline 4Motion, the $34k USD is probably a lower end trim? But i guess $34k USD isn't too expensive, in America. Since Camry, Accord can cost almost that much?

[@johnholst]

@@guy420man High 40's is actually more than Canadians pay. Remember, he was quoting prices in Canadian dollars.

[@phuot1]

Keep the overprice Arteon and I will go with the Stinger V6

[@nickolastiguan]

The Stinger is good value for sure, but the predicted future value (according to Canadian Black Book) is horrid. 2018 GT Limited, annual km 16000 km. In 2020 $24500, 2021 $20,600 and 2022 $17,400. But i think the Arteon will also depreciate a lot.

[@Bartonovich52]

The Arteon is a German luxury car with all of the attendant maintenance costs and potential for value loss with absolutely none of the prestige of a luxury badge. Think CC or Phaeton... and if you look at the prices of those, that’s where the Arteon is headed.

[@leeption1able]

I had a 2013 CC v6. 280 hp. They dropped the hp and raised the cost waaay to much!

[@beltalowda131]

At $37k for the base, yes. Just picked one up for less than $32.

[@mtnx7]

Unless you’re doing track, theres no need for a 300+ HP engine in a sports car.

[@Rockybalboa541]

Not everyone is as boring as you are

[@johnmattiazzo3900]

Canada needs to get the same warranty the Americans get would sell a lot more cars it would show confidence in there products

[@bigcjm]

Despite this idea that there arteron only competes with the stinger. It sells well under all the full size sedans including avalon, maxima, stinger, and the charger/300 twins. It costa way more than all of these fully loaded. Hell the es 350 sold nearly 20x as many cars an it technically is sizes similar to it. You can't be pretty enough to cost more or as much as an es 350 and have less power.

[@noelaguirre7104]

Curious as to how many will really pull the trigger for the Kia Stinger, I'm in the car capital of America I'm yet to see a Stiger in the wild. Is it still for sale $50k for a Kia really?

[@diegocastro-pn2we]

What's the car capital of America? And yes, anyone can go to a Kia dealer and buy a stinger for 50k

[@314jrock]

6:13 "Do You Need That Extra 100 Horsepower?" Yes the Arteon do need that extra 100 horsepower.

[@stefonthemove]

My sister in law has a KIA and has had nothing but problems.

[@corpnupe85]

No heads up Display? My 2015 Genesis 3.8 Ultimate has that option.

[@DCassidy42]

Arteon Wayne! Arteon Garth!

[@austenrichardgeorge842]

Kia also has a longer warranty and when stuff does break out of warranty - Kia is going to be a LOT less expensive. The Germans are always vastly more expensive to repair. Although I do like this Arteon. Also the 4cyl engine in the Genesis G-70 is $42,000 - and might be worth a look as it's the luxury version of the Stinger. And the new Hyundai Sonata N-Line is coming soon with big HP numbers

[@STEVE33437]

I think the Arteon looks more like the Honda Accord than the A7. The Honda is more reliable and less expensive. I do not see the Arteon being a good seller because it doesn't warrant the price they are asking.

[@Inspector7I]

Its already a great seller

[@STEVE33437]

@@Inspector7I April 78 May 245 June 275 are not great numbers!

[@backseatdriver8902]

Do you think it will lease better? I really, really hope they make a baby RS7. Arteon R with a VR6 Turbo (400 hp) could be the greatest sedan on the planet if done right. The Passat GT's VR6 (VW's latest VR6 OEM Sport exhausts setup) exhaust sounds great, just add a turbo, DSG, and an R suspension and you have something special.

[@Bartonovich52]

You always lease European cars.

[@FlyingGentile]

No manual in the states. What a bummer. Really wish the 10th Gen Accord had this same fastback, lift gate design.

[@danI43541]

Don’t think that many potential Arteon buyers will go for a manual. Not even in Europe

[@FlyingGentile]

@@danI43541 absolutely, that is the case here. Such a shame unfortunately. The 10th Gen Accord does have a manual that i want, but i want(need) that lift gate from the VW. O well.

[@danI43541]

Wiston Clair June is there a manual A5 in North America?

[@FlyingGentile]

@@danI43541 yes, yes there is. Hard to find. But do-able

[@kellingtonlink956]

I think the design is brilliant. I, almost, considered buying the BMW 5-GT (think 7-series size (width) but with practicality). It was ridiculously overpriced and my wife simply could not get past its rather ‘odd’ looks. Would I consider this new VW... ‘No’. However.... you’ve made some excellent points for the Stinger. It looks meaner, and besides I would forever struggle spelling the VW’s name. Thanks for the video.

[@ak2112]

This should just replace the Passat and take it’s price point

[@mattspeer01]

When these don't sell due to the over-the-top pricing, they will automatically come down closer to Passat pricing, whether VW wants them to or not...

[@shakazulu2442]

If I may ask what did you replace your A7 with? I believe you mentioned in previous videos that it was a TDI. Great video as always

[@Bonjurro]

Nickolai Williams I think it was his diesel cayenne

[@shakazulu2442]

Thanks, I was curious cause their are so few (new) diesel options available today in Canada

[@Motormouth...]

Yes, Cayenne diesel

[@peternieswandt3010]

a six cylinder twin turbo around 380 to 400 plus hp would make me buy at thus price point - not interested in the 4 cylinder. The price hopefully will drop when they do not sell. In the meantime I'll look at a used S5.

[@neilnemeth2216]

You kept saying it’s fully loaded right out of the box, and then say there are optional packages. Thats not fully loaded then is it?

[@Bartonovich52]

Fully loaded is relative. Many people still consider fully loaded being AC and all power options.

[@zipobob1]

Stinger looks better on outside and inside and more reliable

[@lucienl9465]

KIA more reliable ? lmao every car is reliable now days.

[@Hercegovac.1]

Sia F Arteon is way Better than KIA stinger!! Also looks way more elegant and premium!

[@jamesliu6532]

why all vw and audi dont have Autohold in North America ?

[@4730301]

Clarkdale has a new 2019 for 10k off. Aug 5, 2020.

[@shopwithaaron]

Value is always important...don't think there will be any price reduction from VW...Stinger wins!!

[@frankie.d1127]

Are you kidding me?!?! These things aren’t selling well in the states- I give it 6 more months and you’ll prob be able to get like 5-7k off sticker

[@kirkm3354]

I want one but i can't afford one.

[@adesayoakinsanya4012]

walked in to dealership to check it out and was shocked that it maxes out at 47k msrp. Even a midtrim A5 sportback can be had for about the same without even haggling for price. I didn't even bother trying to get better pricing. I don't know why reviewers keep comparing to an a7 when really its better to compare to a5 sportback...bc this car is just not a bargain.

[@scottferris6309]

Automotive News just announced the Arteon will be discontinued in the United States. This is the third time that I know of that VW has tried to go upmarket and failed. The Touareg, Phaeton, and now Arteon were all overpriced sales flops. People who are willing to spend luxury car money on a car want a luxury brand, not a mainstream, mass-market brand. The demise of the Arteon is no surprise as only 123 of them were sold in the US during the second quarter 2022.

[@alexoncars]

Is it only me or this car have the same wheels as a Tesla P100D?

[@ravingmad765]

If you have an issue with the $$ just buy a Skoda Superb Sportsline...

[@TMS5100]

Why buy this over an audi A5, bmw 4 gran coupe, or even a kia stinger? Makes no sense. VW seems intent on repeating the CC failure. Ridiculous. VW has no idea how to price these things.

[@gregsullivan7408]

Because the Arteon is larger than all of those other vehicles. It competes more with the A6, A7, 5-series etc.

[@eggbirdtherooster]

This car almost screams for a proper V6..! Funny note, this is the 2014 Euro Passat interior btw :)

[@chrisdblue]

I’d rather have a used a5 sportback with 15,000kms on it for less money.

[@aprtuned75]

I have been a VW guy my whole life first one was I was 13 and never stopped I have 9 of them in my driveway. From a 337 GTI a mk5 GTI all the way to Jettas a cc sport a Tiguan and everyone one except my 337 has headliners down panoramic sunroof problems and all the common fails that vw won't fix . Here is a tip go back to your roots vw and build quality not Junk. It is sad that after 2 years headliners come down and vw isn't liable

[@4150QE]

why VW and Audi North America remove auto Hold ?

[@lupuradu841]

Is an option in Audi

[@sergevivier2861]

The Arteon is exactly the vehicle VW of Canada does not need. A CUV smaller than theTiguan would have been a better idea.

[@kangill2411]

I've only seen one on the road. Surprisingly I found it lacked street presence and looked smaller in reality (the Stinger by comparison is more of a looker).

[@borzica]

Nice watch

[@Motormouth...]

Thanks brother

[@Lethalhodge]

A Kia is still a Kia VW forever!!!

[@chrisb2844]

The price is in Canadian dollars not american dollars.

[@gregorydavis5210]

I agree it is way to expensive that's why I havent bought one myself

[@pradeepbhatt1316]

Thank you motormouth for reviewing the Arteon planning to buy this one of the most practical cars and well built as well (unlike rattles and creeks of mentioned competetor from Korea). Would be greatful if you can answer my question, Is arteon running on the regular fuel ? if not what is the recommended octane number from VW.

[@Motormouth...]

Premium

[@pradeepbhatt1316]

@UCKmaQ_K1V6PsBOAnnuMKITw not mentioned !

[@dsinghr]

This car does not feel fast. Quick may be but not fast. Stinger is fast. That is the difference

[@gregsullivan7408]

"quick" and "fast" mean EXACTLY the same thing.

[@ramfery23rafa25]

is not fully loaded, practically 1/2 of the features were strip for the north America market. really like the arteon but it does not have the features that I want so I will have to let it pass

[@ridaalosman8030]

-this is same size as the Accord therefore it is not a full size car -yes I need the extra 100 horsepower otherwise I will get the Passat or Mazda 6 (both come with AWD at a cheaper price)

[@MrNumbbutt]

Rida Al Osman - The Accord has about 3400L of combine passenger and cargo volume. Which under the EPA classifies it as a full size or larger car. Dimensionally it is no longer a mid size -The Mazda 6 and Passat both are FWD not AWD.

[@seanpoquette9421]

Now you can pick one up new for 32k

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Fake exhaust tips...no sale.

[@Dirk_Diggler]

Not fake like the tiguan, Jetta etc. There is an actual opening.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

@@Dirk_Diggler Yeah and it's fake. I want real exhaust tips others no sale.

[@MikeStoddart]

I thought the Canadian Stinger only came with the V6?

[@reserva120]

"How much is it ??":)

[@BTC909]

Low volume like the cc.

[@JD-kf2ki]

Rims are inspired by Tesla Model S's.

[@Bartonovich52]

They look like the rims on my base model Civic.

[@philipmacedon6069]

You're comparing a German built VW against a Kia! Lol difference in quality is very obvious try moving the centre console around on the VW see if it does what the Kia does

[@12399oli]

For the same price I can get a charger scat pack with almost 500hp

[@carlbusque1856]

No manual though

[@InuranusBrokoff]

These things are going well below, excuse me, whale below msrp everywhere.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

Nice car that's way overpriced for what you get. And 40k for a VW?? C'mon.

[@OmerTheGreatOne]

Nearly 50K actually. too much money

[@brucemadu8535]

Top of the line Tiguan is $42k in Canada which is great and looks to me to be a terrific vehicle. REG GAS too!

[@brucemadu8535]

$40K is nothing these days!

[@IKnewMickey]

@@brucemadu8535 I was in a tiguan. Excessive road noise and under powered. It's like 186hp in a 230hp world.

[@brucemadu8535]

Yes a lot of reviews are saying it’s underpowered.

[@corpnupe85]

Looks like an A7

[@ay3514]

Audi much !!!!

[@johnholst]

It is a nice car. But the price is too much for what you get. The Stinger GT is better in every way. In fact the only thing the VW has that's better is that beautiful digital cockpit. Otherwise, it's not really a contest at all.

[@kanarfaisal]

👍

[@gregsullivan7408]

Plenty of rear head room??? RUBBISH. I'm a chauffeur, and I asked my 6'3 friend to give me his opinion - the response was an emphatic NO - do NOT try to use this as a limousine.

[@Motormouth...]

Well duh

[@nickr3441]

Dodge charger is better value

[@brucemadu8535]

How could you even put the name of a North American Crap vehicle in the same sentence as a German car? Die Detroit Die!

[@nickr3441]

@@brucemadu8535 the Germans can't make a car to save their lives

[@ay3514]

Stinger is better

[@aprtuned75]

Well another 2 year throw away

[@ThatsMrTaylor2u]

Y'all really trying to pay $50,000 for a Kia?? Lmfaoo

[@mikealanzo]

I think it's ridiculous too! 50K for a knock off of the Germans. Just sad!

[@luisamoa2500]

I'll take a stinger thank you. Boring ass pasat

[@donotinvite]

VW is now a joke

[@kevinz6696]

Interior looks terrible... hope Audi steals this exterior design for next A5 lol.

[@nameinaframeindy]

Vw cars are finicky. You will understand this when you have you first $1000.00 repair that’s mostly labor. I had a 2013 CC r line and I will never do business with vw again.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

The Stinger is better looking to my eye, more horsepower, and probably more reliable. VW 2.0T engines historically are oil burners, not sure why anyone would chance that for that kind of money. Not to mention dieselgate.

[@SaraK_69]

Please do not mention Golf R and Arteon together ever again. The Arteon is completely underpowered and in absolutely no way feels anything like the Golf R. The Arteon needs a V6 engine, it's too big and heavy for the standard 2.0 VW 4 banger.

[@nameinaframeindy]

Vw cars are finicky. You will understand this when you have you first $1000.00 repair that’s mostly labor. I had a 2013 CC r line and I will never do business with vw again.