VW Id Software 3.0 - Charging Test 58 kWh battery

[@cez8017]

Again, a good video. Very informative! Danke! Hardcore ev drivers fast charge from 5% to 50% (if 50% is enough to get to the next fast charger...) I have no patience to charge to 80% when speed of charge is so much smaller than by 5-50% soc.

[@_TrueDesire_]

assuming the next charger isn't occupied, then you are stranded if there's no space next to it so you can take the charger at 100%, or put in a queue... happened to me several times. thankfully my i3S can be charged to 90% before i need to leave.

[@cez8017]

@@_TrueDesire_ I had is3. Very nice charging curve. In this case charging to 86% makes sense.

[@1991dsd]

Thanks! Great video! Sadly, I was expecting more improvements

[@Muppetkeeper]

Excellent data collection and comparison

[@CraftyStorm]

So I figure the time save is in the beginning, saving 2 minutes on 20 minutes is 10%. The relative time saving is bigger then. Still not mind blowing, but hey, every minute counts.

[@PatrickVanNicePhotography]

Good information! Thanks for the video!

[@timmurphy5541]

So it's useful if you're short on time and also out of range - you can get a quick extra 50km and get to the destination to charge fully there.

[@rzakolski001]

that's how it's done. thumb's up! you should be teaching others to make professional videos about charging (i.e. elektrobays). great job, buddy 😊

[@simondehaas8784]

Thanks for this test. It looks to me like the 3.0 charging curve is probably the same as for 58kwh cars built with 2.3. I've only had 118kw in mine but I had plugged in at 11% and it also crossed the 100kw line at 29% SoC, like those in your test. I have never plugged in at very low SoC so far (

[@mjk8019]

Exacty. I had 134kW with mine in December. Delivered in October.

[@1991dsd]

@@mjk8019 mine exactly the same. My peak is 134kwh. The curve is exactly the same as the cars built with 2.3

[@majklson15]

Hey VW if you want to see how an update on charging curve should look like, please have a look on Tesla Model Y (Bjorn's video: "Tesla Model Y LR (LG battery) charging speed improved" )

[@No1cemeister]

Vw is so far behind

[@kristianmikkelsen2529]

@@AlanTov You can always disconnect your car if you think it goes to fast 😀. My model 3 sr+ 50kwh battery, 3 years old charges 170kw to 23% and cross 100kw at 51%. And of course it can preheat so it take full power. I feel sorry for volkswagen group for taking stupid decisions, I was audi owner in the past

[@MichaelT1303]

@@AlanTov I fully agree, in addition, most of the times one would charge at home anyway

[@keithw32123]

We ordered the ID4 AWD Pro S online in September 2021 last year but it still hasn't left the factory. The longer the delay the more features the car will get! Trying to look on the bright side! ( but the web site should let us specify a beneficiary in case we die of old age). From the wet and cloudy pacific-north-west of America.

[@computerbob06]

Cancel it and get a 2nd user Niro EV (E-Niro in Europe) - you shouldn't have to wait 6 months for a car!

[@JanDienstbach]

Ich hatte mir die Erhöhung der Ladeleistung besser vorgestellt. Aber das nur der Peak höher ist, ist natürlich ein kleiner Trost. Hinten raus wäre es besser gewesen und hätte spürbar mehr Zeit gespart.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Should charge to 60 % at 100 kW and then gradually go down to 80 % for a more usable charge curve.

[@alexklemme]

Hey Chris! Danke für die Info. Ist ok, aber, wie Du schon sagtest, nicht mindblowing. VG

[@colonelccccc]

This looks so bad compared to the Hyundai Ioniq 5 curve, thanks for the review.

[@nakfan]

I thought charging with 3.0 could hit 160-170 kW...but that was - I think - with a pre production I.D. Buzz so probably not comparable. Great graphics as usual 😊

[@BatteryLife]

Only GTX and idbuzz gets 170 kW.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

You need the big battery.

[@majklson15]

Disappointed.

[@Jeroenneman]

What did you expect from VW?

[@brushlessdrive9250]

VW crap!

[@antonioteje27]

That curve is what the charger supplies, not what actually goes into the battery.

[@BatteryLife]

Of course

[@lisapowell616]

Hi Been watching your videos for a long while. Wanted to know how do I get this update on my car ? I’ve had my car now for a year, I love it. To make it even better would be the update??? Cheers my friend Love your videos very informative…👍

[@BatteryLife]

Hi, thanks. I made videos about 2.4 and 3.0 How to get them and what you get.

[@markusr1715]

Does the 3.0 include Esp off/sport or some kind of slip start function?

[@BatteryLife]

I made a video with everything in 3.0 on this car. ;)

[@muhammadalbitar3730]

hello I have I'd 3 but am in middle East and the vehicle isn't supported here any advice to do the updates on it?

[@BatteryLife]

If the dealer can't do it, then there is no other way.

[@moisespatterson8724]

Do you think you’ll get the opportunity to be able to test the charging speeds for the ID4 with 3.0?

[@BatteryLife]

Not for a while. But I try.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

ID GTX is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIvclZ2ar9B3gcUm46s The speed gain is just in the first 10 min of charge. The regular 77 kWh will have a different charge curve with a lower peak, but better average speed according to VW.

[@otacon_ahyo]

It really needs preheating for DC charging .. is it hardware limitation ?

[@BatteryLife]

No, just not implemented in the software yet.

[@otacon_ahyo]

@@BatteryLife hope they do it

[@rolandwoodbridge6281]

I used a 350kW charging station this week and found peak rate only 50kW. I swapped charger to one that another make of car had vacated having shown a much higher charge rate, but still only ~ 50kW. My iD 3 Pro Performance is 11 months old. Is there any reason the charge rate might be restricted? Same experience elsewhere on a 125kW charger.

[@BatteryLife]

Cold battery, high soc, not buying 100kW charge option?

[@codexTu]

Meh... This car continue charging slow... Unfortunately

[@martink.9442]

Ja. Ein Peak und danach leider das gleiche. Haut mich ned um muss ich sagen. Wenn man Mal wirklich km reinladen will bringt es auch nicht groß mehr.

[@automatix5]

Gibt schlechtere Ladekurven.

[@martink.9442]

@@automatix5 Mag sein aber eine Verbesserung wäre zu Erwarten gewesen.

[@automatix5]

@@martink.9442 Es ist halt eine Gratwanderung zwischen Haltbarkeit und Kundenakzeptanz. VW geht hier wohl eher den vorsichtigen Weg.

[@martink.9442]

@@automatix5 bei meinem Ioniq geht es auch. Und hält sogar.

[@automatix5]

@@martink.9442 Der hat auch eine andere Zellchemie mit höherem Kobaltanteil, die ihn weniger empfindlich macht.

[@TorgeHjorth]

Will it preheat battery when navigating to a fast charger?

[@BatteryLife]

No

[@computerbob06]

@@BatteryLife Its a real shame that. Kia/Hyundai are releasing an update at some point to get their car to pre-condition the battery for charging! It seems like something from years ago to take the first part of the charge to warm the battery before you get the best charge level. I could just imagine turning up to the single motorway charger here in the UK - after accelerating/regenning for a few miles to heat up the battery, to find there's a wait to use the charger with a cooling battery!

[@r.b.6619]

The charging curves of the old software and the newer one shouldnt even cross each other until the end. Otherwise it makes no sense and there is no advantage.

[@pauladams5673]

Will you replace Walter with a new ID.3 ?

[@BatteryLife]

Walter's lease is up to September 2023

[@perimec2]

@@BatteryLife then after that... go for another brand :)

[@RedBatteryHead]

Not much gained. Update is more important on the Navi.

[@brushlessdrive9250]

Still vw crap!