VW ID7 prototype range test

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[@ungallegoenmunich]

You know you have reached peak youtube penetration when the VW engineers hold the camera to film you in their car

[@wtfrofllolxd]

Hopefully the station wagon version comes out soon! The EV space needs more than one station wagon.

[@Mues_Lee]

Jup, been waiting for an electric Octavia since years.

[@RSProduxx]

@@Mues_Lee Hell yes

[@azureactivedirectory]

There’s a wagon version?😍

[@marks-0-0]

Yes maybe but modern wagons aren't really wagons anymore. The rear is so swept back that they hardly have anymore room than a hatchback.

[@bonkerbanker]

​@@azureactivedirectory it will be later, maybe about one year from now

[@MrVurtan]

"Hungry for Schnitzel" is just amazing. Who cares for the car while Bjørn talks about food :)

[@yhfsywfit]

I would watch Bjorn driving around Europe in EVs eating various foods. Funny AF to watch him in France “What’s this shit?”

[@Raggadish.]

Schnitzel is an awsome thing 😋

[@perimec2]

Bjørn I have been following for long time. I have an ID4 first edition since the beginning. I understand that these video about the new cars are important, but why not making also some follow up providing some clear view of the vw software status and all the challenge with us that we purchased this car. Please stop to Trondheim in any of your travel up to north and you are more than welcome to get a full update on the hilarious situation where plenty of ID user are right now.

[@UloPe]

Same shit as with any other legacy car maker. Software is hard and they have been making dinosaur juice exploding machines for so long that they have a bit of trouble switching to the world of changing software within one model and OTA updates etc.

[@perimec2]

@@MrGoogle87 2 years of car, still a beta software on the car, no ota update, continue promises from vw that new software will come asap … and 2 years have passed

[@crashtestchamp]

EuroNCAP Crash Tests : VW ID.7 2023 v. Tesla Model S 2022 v. Mercedes EQE 2022 v. Lucid Air 2022 kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJ-aYn9omt56gas

[@michaelherlihy2090]

Battery preheating function would be interesting to see tested in long range test

[@AerialDroneHorizon]

This doesn’t represent the Bjørn range test standard at all which is to be expected on a a prototype car and quick test run with people in the car. The numbers given are to good to be true. (The 90 run had only an average of 63 😣) I will wait for the real range test in Norway.

[@hadtopicausername]

This car is definitely going to be of great interest to me, once I replace my old one.

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

Bjørn is handling the stress test environment really well.

[@nicobellic2465]

Damn what an amazing vehicle. VW for the win.

[@o00scorpion00o]

Recently I've been getting 200 Kms from 40% charge in my id3 82 Kwh. 13.7 Kwh/100 kms, not high speed driving all 100 Km/hr or less. not heat/ac just the blower, it's been a bit milder lately and that helps a lot. Compare that to my old 2015 Leaf, I'd be lucky to get 150 Kms from 100% charge in warm weather and that was when new. The id.3 is 1.5 years old with 54,200 Kms.

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

How can you make it use the blower only?

[@o00scorpion00o]

@@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi I just turn the temp to LO and manually control the blower speed because when you turn it to LO it will automatically try blast you with air when it’s set to auto. I find lack of dedicated climate controls very frustrating and I think it’s a disaster that more car manufacturers will use the screen for every function. Never again.

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

@@o00scorpion00o Well, I don't have any issues with the touch controls. I hate physical buttons.

[@Raggadish.]

What is the true range of your ID3 from a 100% charge?

[@o00scorpion00o]

@@Raggadish. Depends on so many things but when commuting at 120 Km/hr , traffic jams etc and in an Irish Winter I've got 300 Kms and still had 20% left. Or, you could get 200 Kms per 40% like I have been managing lately due to a little milder weather and non 120 Km/hr driving and drive mode set to eco in individual profile. It's only recent I have use any form of eco mode, all it does is stiffen up the throttle but it does help save energy. The 82 Kwh has around 73.5 Kwh usable.

[@bennyjuhl]

What a cliffhanger!!! Did he now get the jäger schnitzel or not?!

[@gordonf1997]

Good change to the charge port cover, the ID3/4/5 cover is very prone to getting broken if someone even just brushes against it whilst it is open for charging. The plastic hinge is very poor quality. Replacement costs €300 😢

[@andykphoto]

I’m enjoying my ID4 Pro S AWD, but I really like the look of this car… I can’t wait to see how the US model shakes out…

[@JohnnyZenith]

So you haven't got the hud, heatpump, or largest wheels option then?

[@andykphoto]

@@JohnnyZenith I chose the S without gradient so I’ve intentionally got the 19s, but no heat pump or hud because of “cost” or probably not enough differentiation between the ID4 and Audi Q4 e-tron

[@TapLiHopHH]

"the right side is the wrong side,..." - in larger cities in Germany we have not so much space, so there are charging stations parallel to the street so the right side is the right side! On the left side the charging plug would reach in to the street and you would too while un/-plugging the cable

[@MrVeeBlog]

Thanks Bjorn. All the best

[@EV_Jojo]

Hello Björn, do you know, when you will test ID7? 1000km, Banana Box... I'm waiting for your judgement before ordering. Thanks.

[@josephj6521]

Great looking car in and out.

[@pete2405]

I am really looking forward to replace my ID.3 with an ID.7 soon. By when can it be ordered in Germany ?

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

maybe after the official presentation at the end of april? or maybe they will tell that at that presentation. start of production should be autumn.

[@luc_libv_verhaegen]

Finally, a big electric combi for the german autobahn.

[@tedbergman3352]

Consumption, can we trust the car manufacturers show correct data? Would be interesting to get some videos about charging losses between different brands.

[@o00scorpion00o]

Can’t imagine the price. Probably another EV for those with deep pockets.

[@RH-jj7ck]

I hope pricecuts form Tesla will force changes to prices

[@4literv6]

It's sized right between the model 3 and model s so that's probably bout the price range. I'd say starts at 53k+for the small batt rwd, topping out near 70k for max spec awd trim with large battery. Maybe even more? Sucker is heavy to weighs as much as a model s for the rwd version that was leaked in China spec.

[@UhOhUmm]

VW said starts from under 60K Euros. So yeah, a bit.

[@verboseEV]

@@UhOhUmmunder 60k is VW speak for 59999 € without the steeringwheel and only 2 seats😉

[@sender5804]

@@UhOhUmm wtf, passat was like 30k give me passat EV for 35k

[@mackster85]

It has some Tesla-ish open space interior but with basic data in the center. The UX of the screen looks great. If interior quality and software is better than in previous ID variants, then this can be a pretty nice car. Although I have high doubts about software quality 😢

[@kenion2166]

right when you get in it spams you with ok confirm, online mode like what the heck why?? :D

[@mackster85]

@@Jeroenneman Absolutely fine by car standards. The responsiveness will be a nightmare for sure

[@mackster85]

@@kenion2166 Yeah, Windows 98 style

[@JohnnyZenith]

The software quality is amazing, fast, has android auto, and brilliant features not found in Teslas. I've used it.

[@JohnnyZenith]

​@@Jeroenneman The UX looks great.

[@jochem2348]

tx for all the videos, i'm a noob in elektric cars, can you make a video about what type connectors a car has, whats the difference in connector a loading speed. what app you use for looking a charge station?

[@johnnysmile01]

Always good to have an efficient car

[@TheEdmaster87]

700km wltp is only on 86kwh battery which comes later... I need it now and I need 4 motion and the estate version. 200kw fast charging is ok, not sure about the top speed. But other than that its looks good.

[@DG-uv3zw]

Awd, estate and bigger heavy pack. I`m guessing 250wh/km at 120 in summer... At most 400km if you run it to 0... In winter maybe 300

[@TheEdmaster87]

@@DG-uv3zw No because its an estate, the range will be very similar as a sedan, if you go for an SUV, then yes, the range will be lower than that for sure on autobahn

[@yhfsywfit]

“I call it the butt plug” good lord Bjorn, somebody’s wife might accidentally see this video 😂

[@thabangmagana869]

😂

[@karelschmidt5195]

My 77kWh RWD Enyaq tops at 350A while fast charging so since it sticks to that current exactly, I would guess it IS the flat curve pack.

[@shaunbrookman1049]

Odd the VW media people say the ID7 is optimised for 130kph driving, and it’s most efficient at that speed? Would like to see these tests when they come out.

[@lotredam]

Never underestimate pulling a James May. U never know where u may end up :)

[@propergander8509]

Good to see VW stepping up their EV game in terms of efficiency. But the battery sizes for their top of the line car is a bit disappointing…

[@RSProduxx]

Oh, you´ve been in my neighbourhood... well then: A late welcome :)

[@alanvicentini7712]

Hi @Bjorn, at 2.09 the back right light flashes. Do you know why?

[@marting1056]

u should have used a enbw alpitronic charger, it shows you the charging-curve

[@pete8516]

Will you be testing a Lucid soon?

[@Jannikheu]

Don't know if you guys get to see the new Ford Explorer promotion before pretty much every one of Bjorns videos like me, but MAN I'm a sucker for this one, I love it!

[@JohnnyZenith]

Me too.

[@gregorzesch5704]

Nice video, nice car.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

i think it will sell like hot cake. there is not much competition for a car with this size. i hope they can crank it out in high numbers and are not limited by any part shortage.

[@marks-0-0]

Surely the Model Y is far superior for probably less money. From what i hear from engineers like Sandy Munro nothing compares to the innovations withinTesla models.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

@@marks-0-0 sorry to say that, but compared to an id.7 the model y is a mobile plastic toilet. i think some people like that but the id.7 opens up a different level of driving, it is a very different car.

[@marcsimmonds5483]

@@stefanweilhartner4415 plenty of us own the mobile plastic toilet and are very happy with it. Plus, I would never own another VW after the company's disgusting behaviour.

[@JohnnyZenith]

​@@marks-0-0 No way is the Y better than this. I get to have a superior interior, AR HUD, drivers gauge screen, nicer looking car, VW Quality, great range, Android Auto, cool lighting patterns on startup etc, and more.

[@JohnnyZenith]

​@@marcsimmonds5483 It certainly isn't a mobile plastic toilet. I owned one. Good car. However the missing features and issues with certain things mean when I have finally got the time I'll buy something nicer to me like this rather than Tesla again (would have to be a gtx faster version).

[@tommyovesen]

Price ?

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

"Charge port is on the right side, which is the wrong side, should be on the left side, which is the right side" Perfect timing 😀

[@hkad6252]

Charge port is on the right because the curb side and therefor chargers are on the right. Why would you put it on the left?!

[@Timmahh85]

@@hkad6252 because lazy american is lazy, so shorter distance = good. I like Audi’s solution much better, put one in each side, so people can charge from both sides. Although, only one of them have fast charging connector.

[@RSProduxx]

maybe the "pay attention" warning was because you were playing around with buttons and usually people who do that don´t watch the road :)

[@bjornnyland]

But buttons are safe and touch screens are dangerous, no?

[@RSProduxx]

@@bjornnyland I guess...

[@therealtiamat]

Where can I get your story what connecion you have to germany because it is so funny when you throw in your deutsch words like "schmutzig"...😂🤣

[@Timmahh85]

Old video when he talked about his history and background, or pieces from many videos. Just go on a binge with all his videos, you’ll find it eventually 😁

[@jonaskramer7205]

Since you prefer fleeing to Berlin instead of being at home, I get an impression how bad the Russ-month is for you.

[@bjornnyland]

This test was done long, long time ago. Embargo....

[@_kj2]

yeah.. So seems my next EV will be a Tesla or VW. Stellantis can't compete with this.

[@RSProduxx]

180@120km/h isn´t bad if compared to the past few years.

[@DG-uv3zw]

It`s not going to be even close to that. He was already around that consumption with less then 90km/h on average...

[@volkhen0]

I’m disappointed that charging power isn’t shown in kWh/h units… :(

[@theagentsmith]

It was shown in kilowatts, which sounds about right for power

[@volkhen0]

@@theagentsmith you don’t get the joke. There was this strange unit shown by Bjorn somewhere in the menu of ID7.

[@stefan2796]

Price? Most EV's are way too expensive for the average consumer...

[@kraenk12]

Much cheaper to maintain so not necessarily true

[@Macmonkey1000]

Thought it would do better. My MG4 is averaging 4.2 miles kWh on a 60mph run quite easily.

[@essentials1016]

Please dont compare MG4 to this.

[@faithosadebe5293]

Are you sure about that??..

[@kraenk12]

Tiny car

[@Mues_Lee]

At the start of the Video, the car in the background, was this also a prototype? ID.2?

[@bjornnyland]

No, ID3

[@martinottosson6583]

Nice, but unbelievable that they keep those super annoying buttons on the steering wheel both in ID7 and ID Buzz. With the Buzz and the ID7 Wagon VW will for sure take the lead in Europe in family cars. Volvo has the EX90 but that is way to expensive for most.

[@kraenk12]

Absolutely no issue if you get used to them easily.

[@Freakie1NL]

Vw and charging 'not optimal temperature '. After 3 years of MEB they still haven't learnt anything.

[@tridruankham2657]

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[@romankrucker]

Car is getting doxxed at the consumption screen

[@rkan2]

90kWh battery for a EU customer focused car... A bit nuts tbh. Very difficult to compete against a Model 3 and Y unless of course they do a wagon before Tesla 😂. Give me a 50kWh Passat with LFP instead!

[@marks-0-0]

Efficiency is the main goal. Its a mistake to keep putting bigger batteries into cars for more range. Teslas efficiency is way ahead.

[@ora10053]

They surely will do id.7 wagon and that'll happen way before Tesla (unles they surprise everyone with project highland), but the price tag is too high for mass maret EU wagon.

[@renanbridi7169]

Try the Lucid Air. 😊

[@nakfan]

ABS = Always Be in Stau 😅

[@danielpenov]

Not sure how the lights will look without the camouflage but the design seems a bit boring like a kia/hyundai regular commuter from 10 years ago

[@ilcomendante]

Those god awful capacitive buttons and window/mirror selector thing - possibly to worst in the entire industry. Why are they still being used in new models? Does VW not understand how many customers they are losing because of such frustrating details? It's a total mystery

[@leonsinko4328]

Wiefiel öl auf 1000 km?

[@maxmustermann4400]

Hopefully they will use a 800V system, to get rid of the expensive charging losses!

[@bjornnyland]

You can't get rid of charging loss even on a 800 V system.

[@maxmustermann4400]

@@bjornnyland thats right, but you´ll get "less" charging losses on a 800v system

[@jkev1425]

@@maxmustermann4400 This general claim is so wrong. In a perfect theoretical world you may be right. But loses are often more due to design and implementation of each specific component, as well as engineering skiils. No 800V system on the market shows any advantage regarding loses, no one! No Taycan, no Hyundai/Kia... I would no be surprised if tesla charging @400V and ~650A have less loses than a Taycan charging with 330A @800V or Ioniq5/EV6.

[@maxmustermann4400]

@@jkev1425 Is there any proof about this? I mean: where can i read something about this is general? Would be realy interesting. Like you said, 800v in theory has to be the better tech - and yeah its way more expensive to build😅

[@jkev1425]

@@maxmustermann4400 Check comsumptiom of Björns test e.g. Plaid vs Taycan Huuugh difference and plaid has 400V architecture. Same for Kia and Hyundai cars..

[@jimmyhii3]

Wohoo

[@marks-0-0]

I'm waiting for Teslas "Model 2" If it gets a decent range and good technology which it probably will then Tesla will have cornered the market. Its mad to think that model 3 and Y Teslas are now considered a bargain!

[@colla555]

Looks a bit similar to BYD Seal

[@poxer1]

Ok, so eqe, id7, ioniq 6 are ll veery good and real competitors to Tasla. GG

[@dragospahontu]

It is interesting

[@bilgyno1]

If 150 Wh/km at 90 km/h, then 180 Wh/km is unlikely. Based on aerodynamics, the difference should be 30-40% higher use, not 20%. Eg Model Y winter range test went from 155 Wh/km to 214 Wh/km, or 38% increase at the higher speed. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5e0hnyAgZxqmKs

[@krcn00b]

the wheel has no buttons?? super shit

[@justinfletcher1882]

VW are touting this as a 400mile range car, hopefully this is not the usual BS

[@nilfisktun]

Seems like around the same consumption as im seeing in my MYLR. So not sure id take this more expensive, less powerfull, less practical car, over mine :) And with VW software lol

[@Mladjasmilic]

VW still hase touch sensitive plastic, not buttons.

[@shaug1536]

And the car is kinda "foill"! 😂

[@sasoperme]

So another VW, built like Dacia and priced like Audi. And with all this crappy touch controls...

[@rkan2]

It will feel tighter in most places than most other cars... Is that worth 10k€ or more? X for big doubt (before a wagon version anyway)

[@kraenk12]

The only electric cars with Dacia quality are Teslas. This car here has luxury car quality.

[@kraenk12]

@@rkan2This car has more space than most other EVs.

[@marcel151]

It's time that 5G comes to automotive industry.

[@0-Will-0]

Don't care I am first!

[@DM43685]

If that is the interior of the ID7, I certainly won't be buying it...why are they still sticking a stupid screen on top of the dashboard, as if the designer completely forgot he/she needed to fit one! After a boozy night out

[@kraenk12]

You won’t be buying any car anymore then.

[@DM43685]

@@kraenk12 and why not? There are plenty of new cars that integrate the infotainment into the dashboard and make it look ergonomically pleasant to sit in…

[@mercedakiask4359]

Unfortunately very little progress in the range from EVs has been made so far…especially in the winter is ridiculously pointless to drive an EV

[@TBasianeyes]

What is pointless about winter driving? There are tons of videos on this channel showing that EVs work very well in winter. I drive a small fossil which has around 350km range at 120km/h, even if it would take me 30min to refuel to 80% it wouldn't be a big deal.

[@mercedakiask4359]

@@TBasianeyes 350 km?? Wow! Come on man really?

[@TBasianeyes]

@@mercedakiask4359 Small cars have small tanks.

[@rkan2]

Almost twice as expensive as a Tesla Model 3 (when comparing Germany 2023 price with tax credits and optioned out ID7) for what? MacPherson strut front suspension? LOL!

[@EinzigfreierName]

The ID.7 is bigger and more practical. Doesn't help that the Model 3 is cheaper if it doesn't fit your needs. One could as well argue: a Model S is much more expensive than an ID.7 - for what?

[@rkan2]

@@EinzigfreierName Sure, but most people will not pay 20-30k€ more for that. Some, of course, will. Maybe that is why VW made it like it is. It is hardly competing with the same cars as Passat was. The Model 3 definitely competes with it (and the Passats) though.

[@EinzigfreierName]

@@rkan2 I think there is a big market for a car like this, even at this prize. Most of them will not be bought by private customers but leased as company cars. I don't know for other countries but at least over here in Germany, 2/3 of all new cars are actually company cars.

[@Timmahh85]

@@rkan2 I would never buy a model 3, because it doesn’t fit my family in terms of space and room for luggage. I drive an estate, so the impractical size of the trunk in a model 3 makes it not interesting to me. I would compare this id7 to a model y instead for size and space utility if I were to switch car.

[@JohnnyZenith]

It's a better car in almost every way.

[@tridrean]

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