王立宇宙軍(Royal Space Force) - Fight Scene

[@あおけろ-u3i]

中学生の頃映画館で観て感動して、当時お年玉も貯めたおこづかいも全てかき集めて9800円したビデオを買って、今でも宝物ですね……。発射シーンは何度観ても涙出そう！！

[@kk-xp7it]

当時と社会背景が違ったとしてもここまで描けるのは知の極地、匠の技、限りない熱意、まさにオタクの極み。今やロストテクノロジーである。

[@deltoid77-nick]

Agreed

[@りゅーたん-f2r]

確かに。 こんなんもう二度とできへんやろね。 （なんせ全部手書き…😅）

[@bollinger1958]

公開当時、映画館で観て号泣したなあ。今CG全盛の時代に見返しても、 背景といい動画といい、変態的と言っていいくらい描き込まれていて CGが逆立ちしても出せない迫力が画面から伝わってくる。 ストーリー、設定も素晴らしく、認知度の低い本作をもっと多くの人に 観てほしいと思う。

[@zeroswings2]

It is a beautiful tale... I have watched many times and would recommend it to anyone

[@ポイフルアポロ]

スターウォーズ「は？」

[@mizutani5264]

わかる、おれも泣いたよ。しかも当時あまりいい評価じゃなくて。いまもあの手描きの凄さで目頭が熱くなる。

[@kf4293]

​@@zeroswings2 Do you know anywhere to watch?

[@zeroswings2]

​@@kf4293sorry to say I don't know of any online sites to view it... I got this movie a long time ago on VHS... one of my first few anime titles. I did get a copy on DVD for my nephew earlier this year for his HS graduation... supposedly it's coded non U.S. regions but I guessed he could figure out a way to play it anyway...

[@AKAGI0605]

王立宇宙軍はSFとしての世界観の作り込みが徹底してて好き。特に平民言葉と宮廷言葉が違うせいで将軍がお偉方との会話に苦労してるシーンは、単に設定が細かいということのみならずあれだけの人脈を誇る将軍が実は叩き上げの平民だと同時に分かるから特に印象に残ってる

[@Araiguma108]

はえ〜提督もアニメ鑑賞するんすねぇ

[@THE.Everestlist]

敬礼

[@赤い水性-e8q]

ジャブローのモグラめ…！ 穴に潜ってこんな面白そうなアニメを観ていたとは…

[@中段チェリ王]

無能なくせに、面白いアニメを見つける能力は有能かよ

[@佐藤一郎-y3z]

地の言葉で喋りたまえ。

[@JEK_VaNNNNN]

I love it when KZbin randomly recommends me some old and obscure anime that I've never heard of. One of the only good things about the platform these days.

[@henrikpilz1967]

What ist the name of the Anime?

[@antoniorsoftware]

It was the highest budget anime film of the time, you can tell by the crazy amount of detail in many scenes.

[@JohnDRambo]

Old school is the best

[@MunTre123]

This movie flopping was what made Gainax make Evangelion.

[@Nuggs13]

wings of honneamise. It’s hardly obscure.

[@0612raxa]

打ち上げ前の「俺はまだやるんだ！十分立派に元気にやるんだっ！」のところが1番好きなシーン。

[@sinmetadokoro1968]

30年以上前にほぼアマチュアに近い若者達がこんなすごい作品を作ったなんて信じられない

[@papillon407ify]

ただしアマチュアといっても傑物揃いだった

[@リックディアス-q5c]

@@papillon407ify 天才集まりすぎ問題

[@小出和実]

只のアマチュアでは無いよ。(^^)

[@zxrcbrfzr]

全員プロだよ。駆け出しと言うのが正しい。

[@user-na19]

宮崎駿はじめ、アニメ業界人が皆、嫉妬したとか。するわ。

[@WarbirdPhoenix]

The details... The glorious hand drawn details... 😭

[@Valaryant.]

Glorious does fit perfectly the talent and work put into this animation

[@xunk16]

I know, right?! Like... you don't even need to know what it is about... You just stop, watch, and in a few frame are pulled in so hard you have to remain and watch to the end. This was a time when animation was actually its own art form, not "simply" a motion picture.

[@docblade3270]

Watch red line!

[@billyelliot4141]

Try this lads, it's legend of the galactic heroes, have 1 more too. Looking for good hand drawn stuff. If yee can share the name I will find it. Enjoy this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYnPdqWOe7qkaac

[@xunk16]

@@billyelliot4141 Thanks for the reference!

[@まろまろカリス]

5:30 建造中に何度も試験した描写のあったこの機構がしっかりと動作するの好き

[@thirty206]

カウントダウン１０秒前からBGMが消える演出が実ににくい。控えめに言って最高。

[@williamterrell795]

It is sad they don't make animation styles like this anymore. Mainly due to how time consuming they were. But that also made them more worth it in the end. Both in detail and in the stories they told. The real sad thing is, there are still artist out there that do this sort of work but are constantly passed for computer animators due to cost and easier solutions.

[@Skrimpish]

This kind of work is what made me want to be an animator. Reality is what dissuaded me from my dream. Sad tbh, but such is life.

[@SiBebok]

No, this can be done now more than ever. As long as it is sold internationally. A lot more money can be gained from doing this than in those years where this masterpiece is gatekeep inside japan for many years.

[@liliana.6053]

They could still make these styles a lot cheaper and easier than in the past. The problem is, just like Hollywood, the Japanese anime industry doesn't want to take any risks, they'll only produce the safest works with the biggest public appeal, which means carbon copy isekai with tons of fanservice so they can sell figurines afterwards.

[@vamremMX]

In western we had Thundercats, X-Men, etc (I know they were animated in east), but today all is Cartoon Network style.

[@LawrenceAaronLuther]

Agree 100%. It would be nice if, instead of focusing on a super high volume that even the most dedicated anime fan could never keep up with even if he only watched anime as a full time job, they produced 1/4 or even less per year, but made it stellar like this.

[@DnPBancho]

商売にならない作品に、労力を注ぎ込んで超作画してるってのがゼネプロ魂感じて好きでしたねえ。今も大好きです。

[@andreychernov4104]

When you get a scientific victory in Civilization while your opponent trying to rush your capital

[@kalibininsabunu]

I can't over express the joy of watching that.

[@beniichishimadu6081]

@@kalibininsabunu がさまやは

[@GillesVandenoostende]

I don’t speak japanese but because of this comment I could perfectly imagine what was going on.

[@Vysair]

@@GillesVandenoostende the things they said literally suggested a science victory lmao so even with dialog, it needs a lot more context than this scene

[@BanditoBurrito]

The guy about to get a science victory is my ally, so I’m just being a sneaky cunt and sabotaging his spaceports.

[@60ちゃん]

装甲車両が撃破されたあとに破片が飛び散って破片が川に落ちる表現が個人的に好き。

[@daisukev]

同感！ あと、切り離したパーツが壊れて散っていくシーンも！

[@berunharuto]

発射された機銃の曳光弾やロケット弾の軌跡が重力に引かれたり風に煽られて一発々ずれいく表現も良いよね

[@hidehikoanno]

こちらグリア天文台マジャホ！確認した！軌道速度を出してない！失敗だぁ〜 完

[@user-na19]

庵野の仕事やなあ。

[@Codeセンドリック]

@@hidehikoannoそこからまた原因究明→次期試作機→テスト→飛ばす…ただの超長編科学アニメ映画になってしまいそう…

[@カンベちゃん]

最後の方の、 『確認した！！軌道速度を出している！！衛星になった！！・・・成功だー！！』 このセリフが一番泣ける。

[@ユウチューブ-u5c]

小説ではマジャホがスパイやったんやなぁ

[@45ジャック]

間を置いての、歓声が良い

[@ft1352]

プロペラ機とジェット機の空戦が、この作品の中で一番印象に残っていて好きです。

[@鮎川孝]

イヤ、プロペラ戦闘機で戦える程度の低性能ジェットエンジン機の時代背景で旧ソ連のボストーク見たいな有人ロケットを造れるんかいな？と思って見ていた。

[@xmlthegreat]

The absolutely stunning visual rendering and attention to detail in this is freaking fantastic. They left nothing out, the launcher looks like a real life Russian launch platform design, and they even made sure that the water pool that captures rocket exhaust and the nixie tube counters are shown in detail. Holy Jesus.

[@atigerclaw]

Not to mention you can tell how much they studied Saturn V launch footage. kzbin.info/www/bejne/enzXh6Osr7p5Z7s

[@la_potat6065]

The rocket is the russian R7 Semyorka which used RD-107 and RD-108 engines. In the anime the rocket was modified and they said to use hydrogen for the upper stage with an engine that looked like the US RL-10, which makes perfect sense as it's an engine that works best in the vacuum of space and the hydrogen fuel gives it excellent ISP. To summarise Gainax did their fucking research on this with the help of NASA. Anime back then was so fucking cool, at least Ghibli worked with descendants from the Italian plane designer Gianni Caproni, using plane designs later to be used on the film the Wind Rises. I wish we had more anime like this (albeit this almost bankrupted Gainax due to the lack of sales and how expensive the movie was) , these kinds of masterpieces are an inspiration to aspiring engineers or astronauts, unlike most of todays anime.

[@original_godshy]

For me it was debris from the exploding APC landing in the water. Detail is the watchword here.

[@bozomori2287]

I am speechless

[@pseudonymous1382]

@@la_potat6065 whaaat you mean Planetes isn't inspiring to aspiring astronauts and engineers?

[@sha2g72]

ひょっこり、リストに出てきたんで久しぶりに見たけどスゴすぎる。 なぜ当時の日本人の興行が悪かったのかが未だに解せない。 ＬＤはいまだに宝物。

[@こしょう-x1h]

敵も味方もみんな戦闘をやめてロケットが飛んでいくところ好き

[@user.Komatuna]

なんで戦闘をしてるの？

[@だいじん-o3z]

​@@user.Komatuna発射の成功率を少しでも上げるために赤道に近い場所に発射台が有るんだけど敵国との国境付近でしかも中立地帯を超えてしまっていたから 実際は両国色々な陰謀や思惑が有るんだけどね

[@user.Komatuna]

@@だいじん-o3z 危険な行為をしてるからなんだね

[@どすこい-l8z]

@@user.Komatuna ロケットの打ち上げが政治的駆け引きに使われたから 赤道近くのほうが軌道に乗せやすいという建前だけど、 政府はロケットを餌にして隣国に手を出させて大きな貸しを作るつもりだったとか、 あと敵の新型のジェット機を確認するとか色々と思惑があった だから国のお偉方は打ち上げ自体の成功なんてどーでもよかったんだけども（むしろ失敗したほうが大きな貸しを作れるとか考えてた） そんな上層部の思惑に戦闘に巻き込まれて宇宙軍の面々は、 「所詮その程度のことだ、命を懸けてまでやることじゃない」 って、一旦はあきらめかけるんだけども 「自分たちのやってきたことはくだらないことなんかじゃない！みんな教科書に載るくらい立派だ、やり遂げるんだ！」って 今まで信じてやってきたことを無駄にしたくないと、 初志貫徹して命がけで打ち上げを成功させた

[@ちくわの中身-j5o]

アニメじゃなくて“アニメーション”を見たと言う満足感がすごい

[@bob38028]

@@takahaction I think he's referring to it being all hand-drawn rather than computer graphics.

[@jglg7238]

japan use to make top quality japanimation, now they make garbage cg animu.

[@jglg7238]

this is hand drawn "Cel animation", not garbage generic over use cg animu what we have today, its a disgrace. cel animation always ages well with time when done right, Akira 1988 is a pure example.

[@johnnymcblaze]

@@jglg7238 Its not "a disgrace" it's a valid tactic. Use cheep methods, but claim it costs more money then ever. Just like "The rings of power" the first season cost 1 billion.

[@横山秀幸-v3y]

作品世界での数字、貨幣、中央で使う言語など考証や設定が丁寧に作り込まれている。 エンディングテーマからエンドクレジットに繋がるシーンも見事で程良い余韻が残る。 改めて観てみても30年前にここまでやれたのは凄い。 これはこの作品を制作した若者たちの話だったのでは。

[@アスタロット-p4b]

着想が面白いですね　想像出来ます

[@an6228]

王立宇宙軍の話の内容と一致ですよね。。 ほんとに、世界観の作り込みがすごすぎる。 こんな国あったんじゃないかと、当時中1の私はこの映画に没頭しました

[@channel-FUFUFU]

文化祭で上映したな～懐かし～改めて見るとアニメが丁寧ですね！

[@kamar2871]

むかし計算してみたんだけど、自分の計算では、同じ寸法精度だと円柱形より円盤形の方が使用する勤続のロスが少ないって結果になった

[@mtm5311]

3段目のフェアリングが外れるシーンは今でも忘れない。美しい世界

[@横山秀幸-v3y]

3:43からのセリフの繋がる演出が凄い。 これは会話しているわけではなくて敵兵の発した一言はこの場にいる誰もが考えていたことである。 おそらく発射管制室にいた誰かも直前にこの敵兵と同じ一言を言っていたと予想できる。 過去の映画やドラマ作品でもこんな技法を知らない。 元ネタは無くてオリジナルなら凄い。

[@松平瞳子]

この技法がガイナックスオリジナルかはわかりませんが、これ以降のガイナックス作品では、この技法がよく使われるようになりましたｗ

[@やまやらたな]

ナディアでの 『バリヤーか』 『その通りだ』 は有名ですね。

[@やすかん-r4i]

各部門のスタッフが打ち上げまでの自分の役割を理解して正確に行動しているシーンがカッコ良かった。組織力とそれを束ねる統率力に軍人さんとエンジニアのプロ根性みたいなものを感じた。

[@felipecorreavieira374]

80's anime have better animation than today animes

[@Hellsong89]

Animation was made by hand, so everything seem to fit together and there is lots of details, but honestly sound designs leave some to be desired and 80's stories are least for me kinda mess. Sure there is story but lots of it is trippy as hell and sometimes seem to end before story is concluded. I get some are nostalgic and there might be some deeper meaning behind the story, but philosophy is last thing i like to think while tuning out from world to anime.

[@猫は猫-d1h]

祝

[@ねこ-h7i8u]

そりゃ日本がお金持っててライターを高賃金で雇ってたからな。今の日本はあまり労働者と若者に優しくない。だから当然ながら次世代なんか生まれず低賃金で雇った中国、韓国、そして東南アジアの底質な描写や画質になっているんだ。その上今のアニメ業界は戦争ものや、鬱、ダークファンタジーを教育に悪いとし、漫画でどんなに売り上げをたくさん出してもまともにアニメ化しない。東京グールreがその良い例だろう。まったく悔しくて仕方がない。日本特有の良さはいったいどこにおいてきたのだ日本は！

[@rodrigocastro7651]

What the year of this great movie ???

[@moiskyrie]

Really miss old time anime..... Story also good....

[@soukoそうこ]

信じられるか…？ このとんでもなく細かいアニメ、30年前に作られたんだぜ…！ こんなん今見ても感動するわ…

[@sick-and-sour]

I know right, the detail is just top notch.

[@blackbird2420]

@@sick-and-sour 当時は中学生。衝撃を受け、アニメ業界で働きたいとすら思いました。 でも、どうやって就職するのか分からず今に至ります。 It was very shocking. After seeing this, I wanted to work in the anime industry, but I still don't know how to get a job. This was 30 years ago. . .

[@sick-and-sour]

@@blackbird2420 I feel that bro, job is kind of scarce after COVID. Just don't push yourself hard, for real.

[@ともさん-l4b]

しかもスタッフは当時殆ど素人集団ですからね… 今となっては揃える事すら叶わないオールスターキャスト！

[@TATANKA-nf4ck]

​@@blackbird2420おら、大学時代の終わりだっただ。

[@Joetorres3]

Love the mechanical design of this anime. For thos who dont know, is called Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise. It was released in 1987 and portrais a very realistic view of space exploration.

[@thefez-cat]

It's easy to see why the creators were utterly crushed when this did so poorly at the box office. The creation of this movie (producer and investor meddling included) and its reception had a huge emotional and artistic impact on Anno Hideaki, who was animation director for Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise.

[@marcosdheleno]

to me, the reason it failed is because it was made for the wrong target audience. this is literaly a movie about a guy becoming a christian. and while the animation is gorgeous, the story itself has a very slow pacing. its the right movie, made at the wrong time, to the wrong people.

[@huebdoo]

@@marcosdheleno Well ... a Christian who tries to rape a woman .... about half way through the movie and she takes blame and prey's for him?!?? Animation = amazing / Story = Weak

[@qwopiretyu]

@@huebdoo business as usual for anime

[@GhilenPeek]

​@@huebdoo that scene was really off for the otherwise incredible movie

[@zilas899]

@@huebdoo In any moment the rape attempt was made pleasant or glorified, the girl was afraid and the guy behaved like some wild animal. The girl's effort to brush it off says a lot about her character without exposition, I'm not gonna try to deconstruct her personality but she brushed it off as it was a natural thing to do. What the director expect of you as the public is understand that this is a dysfunctional interaction and there is something wrong with both of them, the guy for even trying to do it and the girl for accepting it as a normal thing. The characters are not cardboard cutouts, they depict real people, ugly and imperfect people. Your comment seems to say that you did not like the story because there was a scene of rape, and as rape is wrong the story is wrong as well?

[@西タニシ]

何度観ても、良い。 ダラダラしていた若者たちがいっぱしの男になってゆく様が素晴らしい。

[@ノンピャン]

あ、それだ。この作品は好きで何度も見返して、特に打ち上げシーンは好きで何度も繰り返しているのですが、何で自分がこんなにこの作品を好むのかイマイチ判らなかったのですよ。「いっぱしの男になってゆく」その過程を観ていて嬉しかったんだとようやく気が付きました。

[@osakanadaisuki8655]

ガイナックスの爆発シーンって飛沫みたいなの飛ばして火の粉表現するの凄い好きなんだよなあ

[@tonyrichengod9280]

What a spectacular scene. I love 80's anime. I think this was the Golden Era of Anime. Such production value.

[@bryango5979]

i wholly agree with you 70s, 80s and 90s anime were the peak.

[@Moishel_Mitnyk]

That shit had to be drawn by HAND, just look at the detail of the animation physics, fucking spectacular.

[@김태환-s2i]

2018 anime : ONII-CHANNNNN!

[@starhunterterra9849]

I AGREE, IS JUST AMAZING ANIMATION.

[@mk.s4023]

You know, they actually almost went bankrupt because of this proruction quality. They already had severe drawbacks back then in the bubble era

[@メメクラゲ-u6f]

公開当時アニメ映画を一人で見に行く勇気が無くて同級生を説得して鑑賞し、感動が収まらずそのまま3回見たわ その4年後大阪芸大に入学するなんて夢にも思ってなかったし、士郎正宗と同じ学科の後輩だったなんて卒業後に知った（オネアミスを見た同時期にアップルシードを3巻まで買ってしまったけど何処の誰かは知らなかった）

[@gonvana3222]

小５で胸打たれて今年40才だ。こりゃ死ぬまで響くな。

[@minatokgat2see]

このシーンで一番感動したのはスペースシャトルが打ちあがって、両軍が戦闘を停止したってこと。単純に考えれば略奪目標が飛んじゃったからこれ以上戦う意味がないってことなんだけど、それ以上に宇宙軍のみんなが作ったただ落っことすだけの何でもない、技術力の塊でしかない武骨な、人間を宇宙に送るっていう人間のエゴだけの機械が、こんなにも美しくて両軍見惚れて戦闘を止めたことにあると思う。グォウム博士が工業が市民を平等にしたと説いていたが、純粋な技術に対する挑戦がこんなに美しいんだと、作っている人たちも僕らに訴えかけているようで何度見ても感動してしまう。

[@terranceaskew3165]

This is why I love 80's and early 90's era anime. Great in all regards, with very intricate attention to story and character development. This particular anime stands out even further though, due to how it portrays vietnam style combat, technology, tactics and spirit (due to the anxiousness and aggressiveness of the space launch and surrounding battle). And the scenes where both sides stop fighting to admire an accomplishment for their entire species. Breathtaking!

[@arvinamida3598]

I know you write this a year ago.. but i have just read it. You write it beautifully sir. Thanks

[@OlivierGabin]

Agreed. Looks excellent on every level.

[@Bluespicygreen]

Have you actually watched any 80,90s anime???

[@terranceaskew3165]

@@Bluespicygreen Just to get into an anime pissing match, but yes. I have watched 80's and 90's anime. Quite possibly, far more than yourself, far earlier than yourself.

[@tetsujigon]

ロケットが打ち上がって、兵士が戦いを忘れてただ呆然と見てるシーンが印象的だけど、 気がつけば我々も同じような表情をしてた。

[@大和健一-n1t]

アポロ11号の月面着陸の生中継の時のベトナム戦争で戦地にいる米軍兵士達もテレビを観て同じような事があったらしいですね…

[@強欲で強欲な壺-4drawcard]

3:48 これが有名な破片一枚一枚に番号振って動かしてたって言う頭のおかしい伝説の神作画・・・

[@awaremisogaba4130]

はっきり言って実写の100倍くらい映像に凝ってると思う。一枚一枚の絵の情報量が多い

[@AA-jj1bc]

セル何枚重ねたんやろ

[@bippabippa]

いい意味で気が狂ってる

[@海月-h6g]

そこから入ってくるロケットエンジンのノズル周りの作画とかとんでもない労力かかったんだろうな。氷の破片もエンジン周りのフィルムもノズルから出る炎とかも全部細かく動いてるから、今でこそCGで作れはするけど、CGが無い時代にこの作画はヤバい

[@月夜の螢]

今見ても恐ろしいくらいのクオリティー✨

[@naokiboowy]

31年前のアニメとはとても思えないこのクオリティーの良さ 私の中の永久保存版認定！

[@GONDAINAGONDAINAGOYAN]

これが1987年に作られたなんていまだに信じられない。クオリティ高い。

[@joog77]

昔をなめすぎ

[@MrZettaTheKing]

なんでだろう… この映画…特にこのシーン、何度観ても涙が滲み気持ちが込み上げるんだ…

[@CasvalCCYu]

同じです！

[@kummer45]

Wings of Honneamise is an outstanding example of what true Japanese animation is. It's raw, it's excessive in detail, rich in colour, no CGI or computer graphics. It's pure hard work, art and a true invention. The language, designs, armors, battles and all other details are simply a marvel. If youtube recommended this randomly, I wish such algorithm find me more of these outstanding surprises. There's quality out there that everybody needs to see and appreciate.

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

What I love about this scene is how when the rocket finally launches, pretty much everyone just stops what they're doing and looks on in awe.

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

That happens in war. In the non-fiction book Chickenhawk, a huge battle raging on the ground between the Viet Cong and U.S helicopter troops stops as everyone on both sides looks to see what happens when a SAM chases a Phantom 2 fighter.

[@テコナ]

坂本龍一に莫大なお金を支払ったのに、作中で一番人気のある音楽が坂龍作曲でない、コレだという皮肉

[@myenglishisnotgoodenough]

気が狂ってるとしか思えない作画の凄さ この間アポロ13って映画観たけどシャトル発射シーンがこのアニメそのまんまだった

[@bys0227]

どれだけ月日が経ってもこの映画はスゲェよなぁ…色褪せないというか。 味がありすぎて、そういう意味ではガルパンとかの最新の興行ヒットアニメとも比較にもならんほど「また見たい」と思えてくる。

[@AbelMcTalisker]

I rather like the way that the artists who did this decided to build everything using curves and circles rather than using squares and rectangles the way we do. It gives a slightly "Alien but familiar" look to the technology.

[@Saviliana]

Actaully those are real retro technology form 1930-1950s, most of those were rader screens, but some also use as computer screen. Squares were more like late 1960s technology, and were very wasteful but able to mass produced.

[@AbelMcTalisker]

Thats true but I`m talking about at a somewhat deeper level like architecture. Look, for example at the cobbles and flagstones in the streets or the overall shape of the buildings. Nothing seems to be laid out in anything like a grid system and this `no straight line` approach also carries over into vehicle design like the trains and road vehicles (cars are all three-wheelers). The space tech is straight out of the 1960`s with the rocket looking a lot like a Russian A7/Vostok.

[@Saviliana]

French before WW2 was also heavily made out of circle and cruves, just look at the pre war tanks and mehicanical and you can tell where they got the design inspired form.

[@xLeeroycranex]

Even the music choice is unorthodox.

[@barrag3463]

Even the rocket is based off the Soviet R7 design, which is still used to this day.

[@negitaro0422]

このシーンはカッコいいけどそこに至るまでの全体があってこそ光るものがあるよね

[@whatewer23]

Nobunaga has won the science victory.

[@yoloman3607]

Bushido: Units fight at full strength even when damaged.

[@tnh723]

hahahahaha best comment! :-D

[@nicholaswatson3250]

This reference is Golden

[@vuivui4273]

Nobunaga has won and Nobunaga has lost.

[@bubahotep9077]

Oh wow. The Wings of Honnêamise. Havent seen this since the early 90's. Some of the people from Akira worked on this. It shows in the animation 4 sure. The days when everything was still hand drawn. These guys always put Disney to shame. Matter of Disney started using Japanese animators in Rescuers Down Under. I believe that was the 1st time I saw Japanese credits for a major Disney film.

[@stretchpadawan1]

Although I've seen and love Akira, I havent seen this movie. Can you put what I just saw in some kind of context ?

[@ttrnet123]

@@stretchpadawan1 Some historical information is that Royal Space Force was produced by Gainax, the same production and animation company that went on to make Neon Genesis Evangelion. One of its chief animation designers was Hideaki Anno, creator and director of Neon Genesis Evengelion and director of Shin Godzilla. Gainax lost a lot of money producing Royal Space Force because they didn't want to compromise on the detailed production.

[@jurisprudens]

@@stretchpadawan1 The Royal Space Force (1987) is set on the alternative reality Earth. One of the nations is developing a space programme. The prospective first spaceman is initially unenthusiastic, but, after meeting a religious young woman, he gets inspired for the great deeds, and pursues the project more actively. The government intentionally makes the launch in the demilitarized zone, to provoke war; and thus the rival nation is trying to attack the launch zone, what you see in the video. The idea behind the movie was that reality is good and interesting and that young people should reembrace it. In this respect, the movie predicted the future, but, unfortunately, the lesson was not learnt... The Japanese youth are more isolated than ever. And not just the Japanese.

[@carlosluismendez7392]

really?Disney employed japanese animators for their tv series but this is new to me.

[@bubahotep9077]

@@carlosluismendez7392 Back in the 90s Tms Entertainment was one of the studios that did the animation. Thoseguys were really good. they worked on Duck Tales episodes of Batman the animated series,Tiny toons, Bionic 6, Mighty Orbots, Glaxy Rangers and Akira. Way too many things to name.

[@husenkuroco]

The Republican Army (yellow jet fighter) has a unified geometrical pattern on the vertical stabilizer, while planes of the Kingdom of Honneamis have individual intricate patterns. This illustrates the difference between the Honneamis Air Force pilots, who are all aristocrats and own their own planes (The emblem of each house is drawn on the tail) and the Republican Army soldiers, who are soldiers hired by the state.

[@Bleachsoul13]

@@yeussean The Kingdom had been developing the first rocket to carry a man to space, and it had been highly publicized. The Republic was convinced that it was a weapon, and wanted to capture it intact. The Kingdom wanted a war and deliberately chose a launch site near the border, posted inadequate defenses, and ordered the launch delayed. If the Republic captured the rocket, the Kingdom could then declare war. The rocket crew launched against orders, achieving a victory for science and the growth of mankind against the warmongering countries.

[@Qardo]

@@Bleachsoul13 Sounds like some plot for a Civilization Campaign lol.

[@flankerchan]

@@Bleachsoul13 Thanks for the summary. In real history.. it is yes, the first man in space and the first American man in space all rides rockets originally purposed as ballistic missiles XD. Except the putting the launch site near border tho.

[@Aaronslosek]

That's incredible,I love worldbuilding stuff like that,and it totally makes sense.

[@bellgrand]

Also really like how the Republican fighters seem to be using early jet engines, whereas the Kingdom fighters are powered by an overengineered turboprop in a pusher configuration.

[@NSR250RMC1889]

3:17 ニキシー管で数値を表示するの味があっていいよね。 会社のマルチテスターもニキシー管使っててほっこりする。

[@satoshimori2380]

ボストーク1号が成功した、1961年前後の技術、風俗に合わせているのが芸が細かいです。初期のジェット戦闘機とか、テレビがあるけど白黒とか、鉄道で蒸気機関車がいたりとか、出始めの切符自販機とか、単純な構造のバイクとか。

[@DeadboltDon]

This reminds me of that one mission in Ace Combat 4 where you're defending the rocket launch and there's a massive dogfight overhead

[@vaatiseye]

Comona Islands

[@luckysuryajaya2615]

Deadbolt Don ahh miss that masterpieces

[@roymarkdavilamartinez1586]

is ace combat 5 - Arkbird part 1

[@米空軍パイロット]

Shattered Skies

[@mikec8086]

The megalith mission. The music from that was great.

[@大和健一-n1t]

今日打ち上げに成功したH3ロケットの生中継がまさにこれと一緒だった……前回1号機の失敗もあったが、現代日本史の教科書に載る立派な出来事だった…… JAXAのスタッフ達もまさに王立宇宙軍のメンバーと同じ歓喜に包まれてた……

[@googiem4825]

離昇の時の無音からの演出がすばらしい

[@多々良-w7e]

きっと残業ばかりの中でこのアニメは作られたんだろうな。 すごい完成度だよ。

[@AvoxionYT]

I love how accurate this is, the stage seperations, the flume expanding as pressure decreases. It's beautiful

[@drgentlewolf]

I was 20 years old when I watched this movie in a theater .Now my son of high school student is watching this on PC　, me ? I've got 50 years old. and Ryuichi Sakamoto passed way ...unfortunately in 2023

[@prolamer7]

Be old sux, but you lived in golden era...

[@zutuku]

すべて手書きという狂気

[@poetsguide]

The best high budget 80/90s anime were the most gorgeous and detailed animation work in the world or in any generation.

[@シャア専用ズンドコベロンチョ]

じいちゃん達好き。 高度読み上げ中咳き込みがタマラン。

[@JemZard]

Hideaki Anno's (director of Evangelion) effects in this anime was so beautifully detailed also, Everything from animating the plane's perfect shape at 1:21, the explosion from 2:22 2:25 and 3:23 and the glorious rocket launch at 3:38, He animated all of these. Anno's effects and animations was so fully detailed and feels like straight out of an Hollywood movie, He still animating today on his own directed Rebuild of Evangelion movies for some explosions.

[@Keeazul]

当時多くの、無為に悩む若者に力を与えた珠玉の名シーン。

[@mskpvl612]

I think this is one of the most realistic depiction of modern military combat in cinematography that I've ever seen.

[@TheNAPSince2005]

1987(昭和62)年公開作品。音楽監督が坂本龍一だったので、映画館へ足を運びました。今で言う「異世界モノ」のSFファンタジー。残念ながら興行的には成功しませんでしたが、映像にかけられた熱量は、37年経った2024年の今もその熱さを失っていないですね。

[@SchrödingerKousae]

The amount of detail to reality is astounding, things like the one side using decoy tanks to make the enemy think there's more than there are, the beautiful inner workings of the rocket, the ice falling off the fuel tanks as it launches, dumping water in the areas the rockets exhaust will be vented through, when you get the first person view of the pilot shooting and the rounds look wobbly (look at old WWII footage and you'll see that). My god I should watch this movie!

[@techstepman]

till today no one has ever managed to even come close to the amazing attention to detail and the fluid animation that the japanese creators have achieved. Anime is a lot more than just fun.

[@Thatdudewithatie]

What about Redline?

[@mawlinzebra]

@Alex Podolinsky better dead than red you fucking commie

[@boraboraborabora100]

当時まだ子供だったけど、めちゃくちゃ好きだったなあ。この間久々に観たけど、やっぱり傑作だった。

[@パンダ子パンダ-p7y]

35年年くらい前の作品だよね。それでこのクオリティ。やばいでしょ😂神かよ。

[@hogehoge11111]

いや、大丈夫だ。離床！ 幼心に記憶に残ってたシーン。

[@mvbmvb9996]

私は傑作だと思う。

[@montinamax7108]

mvb MVB さん 同感です。

[@たけはらひさし]

反論する。最高傑作だと思う。

[@ttm3956]

なるほど、その反論大いにありです

[@an6228]

むしろ傑作でないと思う人はいない

[@Eringi_Shumai-KEN]

同志よ…………！！(´；ω；｀)

[@type4.542]

良いアニメだったよなぁ！初めて観た時の感動を思い出した。だいぶ昔に作られたと思うけど日本のアニメはやっぱり凄いよね。

[@chibajunchan]

2:06 この左下のモニターの挙動の細かさといったら。これだけブラウン管の垂直同期が少しズレてる演出、驚愕

[@browsertab]

The ending to this film never fails to tear me up. The launch in the war zone, the speech he makes in space, the long montage and then the snowfall (which I interpret as Lhadatt's metaphorical present for Riquinni). It's amazing.

[@detectivemz2544]

What is the name of this movie

[@user-tc2np]

これがきっかけだったかな？森本レオに声の仕事が入るようになったのは。 テーマ曲含め傑作だと思う。

[@hideakikaneishi3453]

いつ見てもイイ❣️今の若い衆にも観てほしーな、映像、ストーリー、音楽、人間関係、その他もろもろ！ 何十年も前の作品なんやで！すごくない？

[@IIAndersII]

1:21 the autocannon ripping through the wing is incredibly well made.

[@samuelcuevas1316]

The next scene, where the camera angle flew over the smoke stream got me hooked. Pretty nice old-school animation.

[@johnprudent3216]

Great and beautiful attention to detail. I finally got to see the movie about 3 years ago. Had a problem with one of the story elements, but the overall plot was very good from what I remember. And the meticulously designed art direction and beautiful animation... Man! A feast for the eyes for animation fans for sure. I wish this style were still around.

[@guillaumeauger4739]

Do you remember the english title please?

[@thepatriot8145]

@@guillaumeauger4739 les ailes d'honeamisse

[@崖の上のブヨ]

ケンズコミック准尉　「船乗りは船と運命を共にするそうだ・・・」空軍の連中からバカにされるぐらいダメダメだった宇宙軍が始めて軍として認められた瞬間かな。このシーン、何気に好きなんですｗシブいぜ！准尉さん！！ｗｗｗ

[@КВ-2-ф2к]

陸軍じゃなかった？格好 あごめん、空軍の人にも馬鹿にされるってことね。

[@1218-q9o]

小林慎司 皮肉めいた感じにも聞こえる..聞こえない？

[@kasinsatoru]

@@1218-q9o 聞こえなかったな。 詩的(ポエム)にしている所が、｢コイツら、漢だな…｣( ´-ω- )ﾌｯと思わせた。 皮肉なら｢全く宇宙の事しか考えないバカヤロウ共だ｣のような台詞になっていただろう。 そのような台詞に男性の観客はこう思うはずだ。｢オンナにはわかんねーよ。ヾﾉ ◜ω◝ )｣

[@天草屋]

@@1218-q9o いろいろですよ。死ぬかもしれないのに逃げない人たちの呆れや苛立ち、 と同時に浮世離れしたことに情熱を注ぎこめることにうらやましいと思う気持ち。 車内の運転手に『格好つけて』皮肉めかしていますけど、自分自身の中にある何かを自覚したくなくてそう言ってる感じですよ。

[@崖の上のブヨ]

@@КВ-2-ф2к コメ有難うございます。そう言う事ですｗ

[@miiyon]

CGの無い時代のアニメ・・・最高だ！！

[@stkaris]

An epic piece of film making period, anime or live action. Perfect soundtrack, wonderful production design and high quality acting combine to create a tense, moving, exciting 6 minute scene in a wonderful, under-rated movie.

[@SturmgeschuetzIV]

Hi, sry for resurrecting this one but what movie is this from?

[@coffeestainedwreck]

@@SturmgeschuetzIV Wings of Honneamise (Studio Gainax, 1987)

[@Synaps4]

@@SturmgeschuetzIV This scene is a masterpiece, but the film isn't underrated. It's terrible. I tried watching it one night and couldn't even make it to this scene. The plot is boring, slow, and confusing. The action is almost all packed at the end. There is an uncomfortable cringy rape scene perpetrated by the bumbling main character. The characters are not likeable or even understandable. It's bad. Really bad. The animators and directors did something great with this scene but what the film needed was a writer. Even a mediocre plot would have made this film a collection item, but the plot it has is just downright bad.

[@guillaumegalienne6351]

@@Synaps4 Dude I was disapointed the first time I watched it too, but that's because I was young wanna see some action. But when you consider this movie as it is, a meditation and a glorious graphic work, then it's unrivaled. It's all about humanity, misunderstanding between humans, war, vanity, power, politic etc.

[@くま-j9r]

2:35 敵の進行方向に対して防御側がちゃんと横射で対応してるのが細かい

[@xavierrodriguez2463]

Enfilade fire :)

[@roofwalker99]

戦闘のただなかを飛翔する宇宙船。歩兵たちが、パイロットたちが、釣り込まれるように宇宙船の姿に見とれ、つかのま戦いを忘れる。言葉など要らない。ここのコメ欄がそれを物語っている。

[@mariomoreno2028]

The music reminds me of the metal slug 2 video game when it's in Egypt!

[@J1N6666]

The tanks as well

[@strichtarn3228]

The music being based on the Phrygian scale does that

[@camelliaj2492]

画質・音質、ともに良好！UPありがとう！

[@user-zn7um5vd8x]

技術は進んでるはずなのに今のアニメより昔のアニメの方が神作画で見応えがあるってどういうことwww

[@keiuruido8748]

CGのドラえもん、ルパン三世・・・ 観る気になりません。

[@honyararahonyarara]

熟練工の技術がしばしば機械を超えるのと同じことじゃない？？

[@satoshishitamori7241]

あゝ、金かけさせてくれないからだよ。余程雑で安っぽいものでも無い限り、別に作画が上質だからって観客数が増えたり儲けが増えたりするわけじゃないだろ？そんなことより売れっ子の声優にしゃべらせたり難解にして謎解きさせたりキャンペーンに金掛けたほうがいい。ビジネスさ。

[@1218-q9o]

@@satoshishitamori7241 作品失敗を連発させてる、 一回成功したやり方以外思い付けない典型的なアホプロデューサーみたいやな。

[@やらしでチュウ]

男に媚びた萌えアニメ…エロい大人向けアニメ…転生モノ…もう最近のアニメにはうんざりだ

[@kovaman8476]

バブル期の制作費に狂人アニメーター達の献身が化学反応を起こした奇跡がオネアミスとAKIRA

[@ポイフルアポロ]

まぁ、オネアミスは爆死したんですけどね

[@無能-u4h]

こういうアニメは未来永劫出来ない・・ この時代制作に没頭して全身全霊を懸けていた今の老害と言われる人たち・・ 自分より作品にかける魂。作品の力が違う。停滞する我が国のヒントになりえる宝だと思う。

[@3gunslingers]

Outstanding animations. Even the technical details are pretty much on point.

[@ロバ男爵-h3x]

「驚異のデティール」「手書きセルアニメの極致」などととよく言われるものの、カット数や書き込みといったディテールに関してその前年公開された「天空の城ラピュタ」の方がはるかに手間をかけており、製作者の談によれば「実はポイントを押さえそう見せるのが巧かった」とのこと。とはいえそれでは収まりきらない鬼気迫るエポックがここにあり、当時の若い才能たちが様々な逆境やアクシデントに抗いながら妥協することなくこれだけのものを生み出したことに感動すら覚える。

[@トワプーヤヨイ]

5:47 ここ鳥肌たった

[@アスタロット-p4b]

みんな歴史の教科書に載るくらい立派だよ！

[@HasegawaNobutame]

このアニメも歴史の教科書に載るくらい立派だよ！

[@nikolayyurchenko5075]

Korolyov's Soyuz rocket is quite cinematographic with its four boosters, launching platform with four opening arms, many jet nozzles, etc. Very visually rich. I understand why they'd chosen this rocket for their anime.

[@Khobotov]

Back when Animes were also art and not just entertainment.

[@008yoable]

マジャホの天文台からの連絡に目頭を熱くするのは歳のせいだろうか？。 何度見ても良い！

[@Halinspark]

I can't imagine how much this cost to produce. There's so much going on in each frame.

[@hikari2hikari2]

indeed, in fact Anno Hideaki was not satisfy with the quality of outsourcing works, he paid with his own wallet and ask brunch of top animetor friends for the launching scene. all those ice pieces during the launch, they were drawed by hands piece by piece!

[@nedinnis6752]

@J Jimenez Crap was always and will always be produced, this movie is just the exception that proves the rule. Don't look at it as a taste of the 80s, it was amazing even for the time. Never take this amount of effort for granted.

[@bellgrand]

It actually did not cost very much by modern standards. I have contracted production art for video games in the past, and the real problem is SPEED, not money. The quality of a production using traditional animation falls to the most common denominator of skill. Meaning it does not matter what your best artist can do; he would have to limit himself to what the least skilled artist working on the production piece can do. Unless you really expect your best artist to draw everything. Furthermore, in traditional animation, productivity scales linearly. One artist produces one artist's worth of work. You can re-use art, but there are many limitations on this. By contrast, one skilled digital artist can produce a CGI model or backdrop, and once that is done, it is trivially simple for more junior artists to manipulate it, re-use it in their own works, etc. Productivity now scales geometrically, since you don't need the same guy drawing the rocketship or cityscape in every panel to guarantee consistency. Nor do you need to recruit and entire team of skilled artists to imitate said guy's work. So for a big project like The Wings of Honnêamise, you either need a large and skilled group of artists or a ridiculously long production timeline. Because not everybody is playing by the same rules anymore, such luxuries do not exist. That is why more and more CGI is being added to anime.

[@Ivellios23]

I listened to the Director's commentary on the DVD... this was the very first animated film to break $1M after currency conversion. Even though they were under crunch time at the end, they added a few scenes not originally intended, to give it 'atmosphere' such as the launch pad being all lit up on the night before launch.

[@TheCaptainSplatter]

@@bellgrand well time is money

[@user-na19]

何度でも見る！ 何度みても素晴らしい！

[@morihuzi-aki]

80年代って傑作と言えるアニメが本当に多く作られてたなぁ…

[@hisholinesslordpotato]

They created it with love and hard work but now people like them are rare

[@Satellite215]

やはり手描きのセルは違うなあ。描き手の情念というか、エネルギーが伝わってくる。それに比べてCGは、どんなに緻密に表現されていてもフラットな感じがする。