The right Drilling Machine for the Drill Stand

I made a Wabeco BF1240 Review but the newest findings are precious, so I share them.

[@hookedonwood5830]

Happy with my Metabo BDE 1100 - 2 gears that is nice for larger drill bits. I have not measured it - probably going to after this video but it fit like a glove and work like a beast.

[@TheFedster18]

I have the same drill stand and I am in the process of buying the DUSS drill -- I am glad I decided to spend more for the DUSS and not get the Fein (which was my second option). Once it arrives hopefully it will fit well. Thank you for this video, it was invaluable!

[@bluemantom77]

I live in the United States and I find this information extremely interesting tolerance levels to make for precise fit is extremely fascinating thank you for sharing

[@xavierlevaux621]

Thanks for all your research and efforts to explain these findings. Do you think Wabeco BF 1240 together with Duss B 13/2 RLE 2-SPEED ROTARY DRILL would make a good (near perfect?) combination? That’s a conclusion I make based on your observations. Thanks!

[@Baerenson]

Its not easy to say. The Duss B13/2 has one of the most precise necks. Only Fein is capable of producing that precision too. I couldn`t test how the DUSS and Wabeco BF1240 would perform together. But I dont think its near perfect because the machine holder of the BF1240 isnt that good. At that point I sold the BF1240, because with a DUSS KB43 you get almost perfect precision. Personally I would always try to get drill stands and machines in used but decent condition with lower prizes. The Duss B13/2 is pretty expensive and is hard to get used. But I found for example an older drilling machine like the Metabo BE620 which has a pretty accurate neck. Chances are good that modern machines of metabo still are precise. They still offer the BE620 but now under the name BE 75-16. But this is a special machine for special tasks. Maybe a machine like a BE 850-2 is more interesting.

[@xavierlevaux621]

Could you make a review of Duss B 13/2 RLE drill? Is it practical? Can you easily vary speed?

[@ferdblu1946]

Habe vor einen KB43 für satte 20€ gekauft. Er macht einen sehr soliden Eindruck, jedoch hat der Maschinenhalter seitwärts über 0.1mm Spiel, wenn ich etwas dagegen drücke. Ist das bei dir auch so?

[@Baerenson]

Sehr sehr preiswert eingekauft! Bei relativ leichtem Druck lassen sich bei mir ein Spiel von 1/100 verzeichnen. Wenn ich den Druck ordentlich steigere, kann ich anscheinend die Position nachhaltig beeinflussen, so dass der Indikator statisch bei 5/100 verbleibt. Woran das liegt, weiß ich noch nicht.

[@kenhealy8234]

Did you ever solve the issue with the Inca table saw? I recently purchased one and it has the same issue. Stripped it down but can’t see what is stopping the table raising to its full extent. It stops in the same position as yours did. Thanks, Ken.

[@Baerenson]

Hi Ken, I disassembled the Inca Table Saw and noticed that the mechnism reached its final potential . I don`t own this table saw anymore, but its a fine one. The height scala is just cosmetic. There is no further way the height mechnism can go. The only thing you can do, is taking a bigger blade what still fits the table. There are also bigger versions with a cast iron table.

[@kenhealy8234]

@@Baerenson Thanks for the info, i did manage to make it raise to its highest point but can’t make the blade retract fully into the table. Hope to enjoy it regardless. Good luck!

[@Baerenson]

@@kenhealy8234 Nice. What did you make different?

[@kenhealy8234]

@@Baerenson just stripped it to a similar level you did in your video, cleaned away any rust and dirt and did a bit of lubrication and it raised to its limit. I reckon the blade should drop fully into the body for safety when using the mortise accessories but can’t figure out what is blocking the movement. Will give it another go when I have some spare time.

[@ferdblu1946]

WIe viel ist der von dir restaurierte Bohrständer ungefähr wert? Habe einen für 60 Euro gefunden

[@Baerenson]

Hab meinen für 90€ bekommen. Bei meinem war der Maschinenhalter kein Original und die Kugeln für den Griff haben gefehlt. Das hat mich wahrscheinlich nochmal ca. 70€ gekostet. Sollte dein Bohrständer komplett sein, ist es ein gutes Angebot.

[@alfonsweiler9862]

Don`t understand the problem at all. I do own the Wabeco and i have used it with 3 differnt machines already, including Bosch blue. I do not had any problem.

[@anilech]

happened to me today. if you drill wood or aluminium you'll have no problems. today i tried to make a hole in a thick steel plate and noticed that it can't hold the drill well, the drill slips out of the holder :(

[@ferdblu1946]

Fräsmotoren von zb Kress, sollten auch nen richtig genauen Hals haben

[@Baerenson]

Denke ich auch. Wirken gut gedreht.

[@serge.shikov]

Impact drill isn't a best choice for drill stand usage anyway.

[@oc_geek337]

agree.. any recommendation of a decent drill without impact (tried already and discarded Hikoki D13VL) which has torque and concentricity ?

[@serge.shikov]

@@oc_geek337Makita DP 4011, for example?

[@haibike3340]

Bei Metabo werden die vorderen Gehäuse-Teile gegossen und die 43mm Aufnahme für z.B. einen Bohrständer ist mit einer Abweichung von 1/100 mm immer völlig genau abgedreht und wird aus genau diesen Gründen nicht lackiert. Bei vielen Maschinen existiert noch zusätzlich Pulverlack. Was soll die Wabeco Bohraufnahme leisten, wenn grundsätzlich die Maschine von der Aufnahme Schrott ist. Schau Dir z.B. die Jubiläumsmaschine SBE 85 von Metabo an. Da hat man nur 850 Watt, aber Metabo hat gerade bei dieser Maschine alles an Präzision reingebaut, was geht . Nichts wie bei öden Bosch Maschinen oder Fein, wo die Abweichung 1/2 mm ist. Die abgedrehte Aufnahme der SBE 85 hat 43,00 mm und nichts ist zusätzlich lackiert.

[@oc_geek337]

you ref to Metabo SBE 850-2 ? (if so that's an impact drill...though)

[@haibike3340]

No the SBE 85, and its not a special impact drill machine.

[@oc_geek337]

@@haibike3340 can't find such a model from Metabo...