W5: Who left little Dusty Bowers in the snow?

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@ebriggs3498
@ebriggs3498 10 ай бұрын
The fact that’s they didn’t immediately dust the car handle, and the car seat latch for fingerprints is criminal! The fact that they didn’t mark off the the original footprints in the snow is criminal! The fact that they didn’t examine the baby, and try and warm him, and revive him, is criminal! This whole case reeks of police ineptitude!
@adrianmartin5780
@adrianmartin5780 Ай бұрын
Ontario is so civilized..yeah right.
@catherinedabbs9144
@catherinedabbs9144 11 ай бұрын
You don't leave a child in a car. However, the tunnel vision of police and the failure of the examiner is reprehensible. The officer will believe she is guilty because accepting her innocence means a child died who might have been saved if not for the officer's incompetence.
@Andy-xx3tt
@Andy-xx3tt 9 ай бұрын
I agree but this was in the 80s, she had toddler riding in the front seat too. The laws just weren’t the same.
@heligriffin4033
@heligriffin4033 11 ай бұрын
The incompetence of the police is mind-blowing. It must be a cold day in HELL when cops can declare someone dead. What is the point of the coroner? The cop should have tried everything he was trained to do to try and save Dusty.
@franceskavalec350
@franceskavalec350 10 ай бұрын
when I was 25 years old, I had a one year old daughter in a stroller , I stopped to make a phone call and in one minute I looked over and my baby was gone. I lost it I stated screaming hysterically and ran right the middle of the road on the yellow line screaming and screaming . I then ran back to the phone and phoned the police, when a little boy on his bike came up to me and said did you lose your baby , and then lead me across the two lane HI way and about 100 meters across a field over a small hill and at the bottom there was my baby sitting on some sand. The moral of the story is if some one takes your child make the biggest scene and maybe the creep with drop the baby for fear of being caught
@lbtkhumalo
@lbtkhumalo 9 ай бұрын
What a terrifying situation 😭😭😭
@melissamarioth9554
@melissamarioth9554 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely horrible situation 😢😢😢😢
@raqueljones6607
@raqueljones6607 9 ай бұрын
Omg! That is horrific! I’m so happy that you got your baby back! I just can’t imagine how scary that must have been!
@marywagner9927
@marywagner9927 9 ай бұрын
The moral is DON’T TAKE YOUR EYES OFF YOUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC!
@jackiedobson9218
@jackiedobson9218 6 ай бұрын
Was this case investigated? Anybody found? In downtown Montreal I saw a woman park a stroller outside a bank and go in. The child was less than a year I’d say. I could not believe what I saw. I waited until I saw the same lady come out and carry on. I started thinking maybe it was a nanny who really didn’t care or a mother who didn’t deserve a baby. To this day, 30 years later, I’m horrified by that event.
@nicolarollinson4381
@nicolarollinson4381 Жыл бұрын
Never leave a baby alone in a car
@baublesanddolls
@baublesanddolls 9 ай бұрын
In the ‘80s, it was the norm.
@nicolarollinson4381
@nicolarollinson4381 9 ай бұрын
@@baublesanddolls I meant now. But, yeah you're right, although I would only leave mine in the car for the shortest time. When my sons were babies, I could leave them in the pram outside the Supermarket. Often there was a row of prams, lined up by the window. Times have changed a lot in a relatively short while.
@baublesanddolls
@baublesanddolls 9 ай бұрын
@@nicolarollinson4381 Definitely! The world has gone crazy!
@FariesWearBoots
@FariesWearBoots 8 ай бұрын
​@@nicolarollinson4381 So you mean people have become less stupid.
@nicolarollinson4381
@nicolarollinson4381 8 ай бұрын
@@FariesWearBoots peace and love
@lyndaowen2154
@lyndaowen2154 Жыл бұрын
I remember this investigation- sad then sadder now- not knowing who murdered your child 😢
@julesthecat.
@julesthecat. 10 ай бұрын
Back in the 80s that’s just what our parents did, leave us in the car. One time a man came in the front seat and saw us in the back and realized he was in the wrong van. Could have ended badly for us if he had ill intentions. Scary to think about. I never once left my children alone in the car!
@chowmarina008
@chowmarina008 9 ай бұрын
When i was a baby, i was in my stroller and my mom was window shopping, she was about to go in and look at a dress and leave me on the sidewalk but an older woman approached her and said "You never ever leave your baby alone anywhere, take her with you." So my mom took me with her. This was in Montreal, 1972
@Inquisitor2024
@Inquisitor2024 2 ай бұрын
I knew a girl who's "parents " left her and her sisters outside the bar while they went in and got wasted 😢 back in the 70s
@BeKind2AllKinds
@BeKind2AllKinds Жыл бұрын
Yes, a whole town CAN be wrong. Look at the Salem Witch Trials. Postpartum mothers need WAY MORE support. Postpartum depression and psychosis are not uncommon nor are they character flaws.
@katherine9109
@katherine9109 Жыл бұрын
that retired OPP officer is a total jerk. that's true of most OPP. they have a BAD reputation.
@lululemonlover870
@lululemonlover870 8 ай бұрын
The OPP are corrupt as hell. They made an excuse to stop me, confiscated my vehicle, had it towed to their buddies tow company went in the back room with the lardbutt tow guy, came out and both convinced me it was best to sign it over to him as my fees and fines would be so high. They called up a taxi and the loud large woman taxidozer said she'd take me to Soux St. Marie, I asked how much, she grabbed my walled and snatched out every cent I had and she sad "THAT MUCH, KIDDO" while they all laughed like drunks. The cops thru my bags in her car and she took me there. I asked to stop to go to the bathroom and she literally near knocked me down to get there first, actually elbowing me to get past me. She was a pig, smoking in the only stall while I was dying to go and she let me go in finally let me go in. She called on her radio to a woman who had a hotel and she told me I had to clean rooms for a few days to pay for my room. I never forgot those cops, just evil. One kept licking his fat lips so I was glad to get out untouched. ACAB. Quite the little scam they have going. A real little money money maker when you catch the right young girl at night. 4 of them and 1 of me!😢😢😢😢
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
He can't own up to the fact he probably killed the baby by assuming he was dead when they found him instead of taking him to get medical attention as he should have. It's easier to continue to assert the Julie killed her own child to avoid his own incompetence and culpability. That's why the police never investigated further. They knew a new investigation would uncover more incompetence and that their officers essentially killed Dusty through neglect.
@anovemberstar
@anovemberstar 11 ай бұрын
So many judgemental comments about her leaving him in the car and the door unlocked - those was a small town in the 1980s - very much the norm. I can guarantee thos though - no child would have been left in an unlocked car ever again in that small town.
@maryjane4846
@maryjane4846 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah it wasn't unusual back at that time. We also bought smokes for our parents and grandparents! Things change..
@whenimonmymoon6822
@whenimonmymoon6822 11 ай бұрын
It was SO common even into the 90s. I remember it being a bigger issue in the summer that babies would die than that parents were worried about kidnapping.
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 10 ай бұрын
Folks are always judgemental "I" would have done this or that like we are si sparkly clean and have no flaws. Victim blaming always
@julesthecat.
@julesthecat. 10 ай бұрын
Yep it’s just what our parents did back then.
@Moe1313-2
@Moe1313-2 10 ай бұрын
My question is why didn’t they measure those foot prints in the snow?? That’s an obvious clue?
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
Because they were incompetent rural OPP.
@smidgen
@smidgen 6 ай бұрын
right lol? he said there was footprints and i said out loud "well were they the same shoe size as the mother or not??"
@DeneenBarrow
@DeneenBarrow 9 ай бұрын
When my baby sister was in a custody battle with her baby’s father, me and my friend saw the baby in the dad’s car and he was inside his house packing his clothes. He had taken the baby from my sister a couple of months before and refused to let her see her baby. After I saw him in the car, I opened the door and got the baby and took him to his mom. She immediately left the state and went to where our family lives. It doesn’t take long for a child to disappear
@melissatodd560
@melissatodd560 9 ай бұрын
You are a good brother. I'm certain your sister never forgot the moment she got her baby back.
@blip-2024
@blip-2024 9 ай бұрын
Everyone knows that a child is not dead until they are warm and dead! How horrific to think he may have been alive for hours after being found!
@Tamara-id1pe
@Tamara-id1pe 4 сағат бұрын
It really is horrific 😢
@gracemarion499
@gracemarion499 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the sister-in law insisted that she follow up on the dream hoping that the baby would be found alive which he was according to the specialist. How could anyone leave a baby is beyond me.
@Marie.b
@Marie.b 11 ай бұрын
If i had a dream that my child was somewhere, I'd be gone myself as soon as i woke up from that dream.
@chowmarina008
@chowmarina008 11 ай бұрын
Yes me too i agree with u.
@nimue4325
@nimue4325 10 ай бұрын
It was already police matters.They would likely conclude that she was tampering with evidence if she went alone.
@Marie.b
@Marie.b 10 ай бұрын
@@nimue4325 what the police thought would not be my number one concern.
@nimue4325
@nimue4325 10 ай бұрын
@@Marie.b What the police think is of concern as they will be able to arrest you as returning to the scene of the crime to hide the evidence, whether you are really guilty or not. Maybe getting a search party could also help, then you'll have wittnesses.
@thisoldnurse1521
@thisoldnurse1521 9 ай бұрын
😢my Mom told me that I was almost stolen out of my pram back in va 1959. She wanted to get some housework done and she left the front door open so she could keep watch. So at one point, she looked out the front door and found me in the arms of a young mentally challenged woman. So this person had to open a gate, go up our walk and up the steps to the front veranda. Mom didn’t do that again. The young woman said I just wanted to see the baby. Frightening.
@jNeal-gj9iu
@jNeal-gj9iu 9 ай бұрын
I couldn't imagine losing your child then being charged for his murder. I would die.
@lisahanson527
@lisahanson527 Жыл бұрын
They found him in the snow and decided to leave him there? Wtf? OMG
@robinjohnston7986
@robinjohnston7986 10 ай бұрын
The ones who should have investigated further are not doing so because they actually murdered the child especially since they did NOT do CPR/how to help a person/child that seemed to be frozen. They don’t want the mom to sue their butts off! I personality don’t think she had anything to do with his kidnapping. How sad and disgusting for this to have to happened.
@juliemurrayart4759
@juliemurrayart4759 Жыл бұрын
Who left him in the snow? The police who found him at the scene, that's who!!! How could they have not started resuscitation right there??? The officers that did not do this should be held accountable.
@katherine9109
@katherine9109 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you..!!! there are so many documented incidents of children surviving hypothermia - against all odds..!!! also: that cop picked up what he says he "knew" was a dead child and put him on a tarp that was spread on the ground. that was a crime scene, ffs..!!! 1st - preserve life. 2nd - preserve evidence. OPP. not known for their 'smarts'.
@coviedogs
@coviedogs Жыл бұрын
It's just so unfortunate and also horrifying that they found him and he didn't get the help
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 9 ай бұрын
I think at that point they were sure he'd been there since he was reported missing, so presumed he'd be dead.
@MarieAnne.
@MarieAnne. 9 ай бұрын
I recall a case from 1994 where a 2.5 year old girl from Saskatchewan was found frozen by her mother. It was estimated she wandered out of the house shortly after her father left for work (about 3 am), and was found at 8am, so about 5 hours. She was presumed dead but was successfully resuscitated. However, this was unheard of at the time and considered a miracle by some. There have been other cases since, so that doctors do not usually declare someone dead (especially young children) until they are warm and dead. But this was 6 years after the Dusty Bowers case, and I can understand declaring someone dead when there is no breathing or pulse and his body is frozen.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 9 ай бұрын
@@MarieAnne.Thanks for posting that. I remember that case and remember it being seen as miraculous at the time but could not remember the year. So when the Dusty Bowers case happened they probably did right by the knowledge of the time. They should have probably checked for a pulse as they couldn't be sure when she was left but it is very hard to check for a pulse on an infant and it would have been extremely weak.
@Beckaboo3397
@Beckaboo3397 8 ай бұрын
One of the last lines from Julie “They know what they did and they’ll have to live everyday with it and look into their own kids knowing what they did” I have a feeling that Julie has suspects in mind when saying that. She believes there’s more than one and that they have their own kids. Honestly though what an absolute fumble with the “investigation “ you can’t even really call it that because there was no investigation. No taking the car in for evidence and running over it with a fine tooth comb, no taking impressions of the footprints in the snow or photographs, no fingerprinting the car seat buckle . Then having a coroner that bodgied up the timeline. Absolutely ridiculous this little baby deserved the best investigation possible.
@thebreezelife
@thebreezelife 7 ай бұрын
What the police obviously didn't realize is that people can be brought back from even drowning if they are cold enough.
@jasonprice1089
@jasonprice1089 3 ай бұрын
What mother wouldn't fight like a mfer to believe her son could still be alive and speed off to emerg?! 3 hours lapsed...she did it.
@darlamiller9989
@darlamiller9989 Жыл бұрын
I think it was her brother and his wife like was suggested. They panicked when they realized they would be charged for kidnapping.
@Inquisitor2024
@Inquisitor2024 2 ай бұрын
Why would they
@darlamiller9989
@darlamiller9989 2 ай бұрын
@Inquisitor2024 That,we may never know. Maybe jealousy, or maybe to teach them a lesson ? But then it got so big so fast they got scared to return him. ch them a lesson
@coricousino9320
@coricousino9320 11 ай бұрын
Look overseas. They leave their children in strollers outside when they're asleep while they go inside and shop or eat.
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 7 ай бұрын
That CAN'T be true. Please tell me that's not a thing.
@smidgen
@smidgen 6 ай бұрын
"they" "overseas" could you be anymore vague lmao
@franceskavalec350
@franceskavalec350 10 ай бұрын
So the baby was alive when he was found, and perhaps could have been saved if the police officer had not declared that the baby was dead because he new what a dead body looked like!!! outrageous , and what about the coroners, and these are the people we should trust in our society??
@relocatetoEUROPE
@relocatetoEUROPE 10 ай бұрын
I have watched a few Canadian crime videos and all of them have some level of weirdness on the police side . I dont know, someone is lying either the mother or some element of the investigation either Police or medical investigation was wrong. My vote is its the mother. How is she smiling like a Cheshire cat when she was let go. ( Her child was dead)
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 7 ай бұрын
Yes and saying "the baby, the baby"! when she discovered her baby was missing is considered a distancing language in body language code not common with a desperate parent who might say "my baby" instead, and knowing EXACTLY where her baby was after having a dream is outrageous to believe plus the fact that she wasted time going to the police first to tell them about the dream instead of flying out of bed and going straight on her own to find him ASAFP is nonsensical in ever way.
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 9 ай бұрын
I know it was a long time ago and things have changed but, if that Dr testified that she thought the baby could have been saved - oh my! That’s bad. So sad. Always sad 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@pamelamichie7231
@pamelamichie7231 9 ай бұрын
I believe her. And I believe dusty was still alive ❤❤ When they found him in the woods in the snow
@cicada38
@cicada38 9 ай бұрын
I am with you.
@nitayat9124
@nitayat9124 8 ай бұрын
me too! If she wanted to kill Dusty why she leaded the police to him.
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
I think the defenses theory _is_ what happened because Julie told them. One of her brothers took the baby as some sick 'joke' to hurt her but it got out of hand when she did what any sane mother would and called the police. Her SIL likely told her they'd leave the baby somewhere to be found if Juile didn't tell anyone what happened. So she had a 'dream' or convinced them to look outside the city and lead the police to where she was told they'd leave him, probably only an hour before. The police officer assumed the baby was dead when he was actually extremely hyperthermic and he died hours after being found from lack of medical attention. Julie is likely the scapegoat for her narcissistic family and simply didn't (and still doesn't) believe that the police would believe her if she told them the bizarre truth.
@smidgen
@smidgen 6 ай бұрын
​@@nitayat9124 i'd assume it's theoretically because she knew he'd likely be dead by then
@adrianmartin5780
@adrianmartin5780 Ай бұрын
​@@cicada38the mother is fuckin nuts,wake up !
@richardcimarik2303
@richardcimarik2303 5 ай бұрын
Why in the world would anyone leave a child in the car alone? So sad 😢. It makes no sense that someone would take the baby and then relock the straps on the car seat. Odd that she had a dream of exactly where he was too.
@KathleenCalhoun-em6ys
@KathleenCalhoun-em6ys 11 ай бұрын
I believe Julie, and it's good for her she was exonerated. They mentioned tensions and bad blood in her family which led up to the situation. The only thing you could blame Julie for is carelessness in not locking her car door with her small children inside, and I'm sure she learned her lesson. Was that other child of hers unable to speak for himself so that he could confirm whether his brother was sitting in the back or if he remembered another person entering the car to take the baby? That officer who assisted Julie in her search will obviously never admit to doing his job improperly so it's of no surprise he.says what he says. Despite his lack of support, there were a few disinterested eye witnesses to corroborate Julie's version of the story. I do believe Julie's dream came as a revelation from the spirit world.
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 7 ай бұрын
I was under the impression her older son was with her inside the bank
@deannekliene2673
@deannekliene2673 Жыл бұрын
My only questions n, why would family leave him in the snow? They couldve kept him safe somewhere n explained to cops whty they did it.... .doesnt make sense....
@Alexandra-dy2ns
@Alexandra-dy2ns 9 ай бұрын
I suppose things escalated very quickly. Maybe they initially feared kidnapping charges and then didn't know how to give him back. Or they feared they'd be stripped of custody of their own children.
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
​@@Alexandra-dy2nsso they told Julie where they left the child an hour earlier and the cop accidentally killed the child by not getting medical attention.
@poorsillyboy
@poorsillyboy 8 ай бұрын
I agree he was in forced torpor it’s devastating to think nobody tried to warm him! 😔🙏💐
@Beckaboo3397
@Beckaboo3397 8 ай бұрын
I’m up to 21:05 Firstly just because the male that did the autopsy most likely matched the time of death to fit the police theory. Doesn’t mean that the mother still couldn’t be responsible for Dusty’s death. She (the mother) could’ve dropped Dusty there in the snow right before or not long before going to the police about her “dream” . This would explain why he may have still been alive in the bodybag .
@debbies0511
@debbies0511 6 ай бұрын
Mother did it. She knew where the body was
@jasonprice1089
@jasonprice1089 3 ай бұрын
The baby could have been dropped off absolutely anywhere else...let's hear from the brother perhaps?!
@raqueljones6607
@raqueljones6607 9 ай бұрын
I can remember being left in the car while my mother shopped or did whatever she was doing. I was born in 1975. It was a super common thing to do. No mother thought something bad would happen to there baby or I’m sure they would not have left them. Thankfully now we know a bit more and hopefully don’t make the same mistakes. Only now we are dealing with kids that can’t do anything on there own because we haven’t left them to make any decisions on there own. But that’s a different story.
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 7 ай бұрын
Yep. We were told not to answer the door for anyone but a cop and if someone other than police asked us to open the door we were to honk the horn to scare them away lol
@michellepollard3591
@michellepollard3591 9 ай бұрын
Got to love the happy smiling face of the mother.
@Thedeathofme-1301
@Thedeathofme-1301 8 ай бұрын
No further investigation was done because the timing of death would of put the police department/officer in custody of the child. Then they would get charged for homicide. I don't know why a civil suit was never put into play for homicide, failure to do a proper investigation and prematurely closing the case... Should of been labeled a cold case not closed. Mother killer or not that baby never got justice.
@kathymonica7516
@kathymonica7516 11 ай бұрын
She looks so happy after she was acquitted like too happy. I lost a son to a drug overdose and believe me being that happy after 23456 years no I wouldn’t be. I’d still be a wreck.
@tamitude1551
@tamitude1551 11 ай бұрын
I totally agree
@arlenewitt248
@arlenewitt248 11 ай бұрын
I don’t agree. Losing a son to a drug overdose is no comparison to what occurred here unless you gave your son the drugs, not to mention you probably never faced the prospect of life in prison because your son died. Her giddiness is based on not have to spend her life in prison. At the time of the verdict her son’s murder had occurred two year’s earlier and by that time her expressions of sorrow would have shifted to times when she was in private and/or alone. Losing a child to death, whatever the reason is one of the worse experiences in life, but one cannot scream, cry and tear at one’s hair IN PUBLIC forever more without being committed.
@ma53jg
@ma53jg 10 ай бұрын
@@arlenewitt248 "Her expressions of sorrow would have shifted to times when she was in private and/or alone." How you can make such a statement about anyone is mind-blowing.
@ursulaoreilly3013
@ursulaoreilly3013 8 ай бұрын
That's what I thought. She looked delighted. Maybe she didn't do it, but I have seen mother's on tv who have lost babies in tragic ways, and they are never the same. Still inconsolable twenty years later. She seemed too calm, from the start. I would be in pieces, and I am not even a mother. R.I.P. sweet little boy.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 ай бұрын
Everyone grieves differently
@JaneDoe-rj4jn
@JaneDoe-rj4jn 9 ай бұрын
What was the motive of the “perpetrator”??? Wasn’t to steal a car, then realize a baby was in back? Car was still there! The bizarre “premonition” seals the deal for me. How do you lead police right to the body after a bit of a drive??? I think everyone agrees Police messed up the investigation and could have done more, unfortunately, however your defence was saying your family was teaching her a lesson?? By fake kidnapping the baby?? If that was the case why take the child and hide him in a snow bank?! Her family members would have to be sociopaths to think of doing that. Interesting too how they had called out previously that she should not have been leaving her child in the car unattended. Kincardine is cottage country, surrounded by fields and forests. You have this vague vision of your baby laying near trees in snow… could have been absolutely anywhere yet … you somehow are able to take them to the area? If she truly didn’t do it, you would spend every waking moment trying to get justice for your baby; I’d like to know if after all this time how many times she pushed OPP for justice.. lastly…. Bad enough to leave baby in car.. however why would you at the very least not lock the doors??
@MichelleMacdonald-fj3ys
@MichelleMacdonald-fj3ys 9 ай бұрын
Mmm, just a thought....Mr Quinn stopped at McConnell str where she went up to him and then saw him. Why did he stop there....?¿?
@brendashenda4249
@brendashenda4249 9 ай бұрын
I agree! Massive coincidence.....too crazy.
@gritskennedy5007
@gritskennedy5007 9 ай бұрын
What about the car seat being still buckled. She was holding the baby and her husband was the driver thats why his car seat was buckled he must have beaten the baby in his car seat or strangled him and then washed the car seat cover and put it back have his wife hold the baby and then thinking the child was dead the husband laid the baby down in the snow and drove away.
@MariaLopez-mi4ol
@MariaLopez-mi4ol 8 ай бұрын
"I don't know where he went" she said....like he got himself out..... to go for a walk??????
@kezzabell8123
@kezzabell8123 6 ай бұрын
Where did the kidnapper put the baby whilst clipping his carseat back up???and who leaves a baby in a car?
@margiehornsby5702
@margiehornsby5702 9 ай бұрын
Never leave children in the car!!!!!!
@maryjane4846
@maryjane4846 11 ай бұрын
25:59 The way she said no... I still think she did it. She lead the police to his little bo..dy
@maryjane4846
@maryjane4846 11 ай бұрын
But yeah i can see where there's doubt of her guilt. Unless these officers knew where he was..
@Lanieshay
@Lanieshay 9 ай бұрын
This is ridiculous I don't know why you can't be responsible for something you did. You left the kid in the car!
@49kittypretty1
@49kittypretty1 Жыл бұрын
Why are the OPP officers around 6:10 wearing pink crime scene jumpsuits?
@tabathaletson5040
@tabathaletson5040 9 ай бұрын
A lot of shit in the case was f'd up but regardless, she killed the baby. Possibly had postpartum, her & the husband were weird & creepy. But she was definitely guilty.
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow 9 ай бұрын
Canadian Casey Anthony. I hate these defense attorneys that are experts at spin and doubt. They aren't wanting truth, they want to win. It's all a game to them This wonderful prosecutor had to be told he let a baby die, all part of the same game Jose Baez played. 'maybe the line operator who found the body did it!' The only people in America fooled by Jose Baez was that jury. All these years later, we see what Casey's father went through as the defense attorney used him as his game winner. I hope there is a hell for people like him.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 9 ай бұрын
I'd be interested to know if the sister in law had any contact with her before she had the dream. It would be very easy to plant the idea of him lying in the snow by saying expressing how concerned they were and saying "I hope he isn't lying in the woods somewhere, lying cold in the snow."
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
I suspect it was the brother/SIL. They told her after the fact where to find the baby after they realized they were in deep trouble. She had a 'dream' and lead the police to where she was told to look. The baby was likely alive and in deep hyperthermia when found. The cop accidentally killed the child by not getting medical attention and won't admit he was not only wrong but likely caused Dusty's death through inaction.
@drips1030
@drips1030 10 ай бұрын
She looks very suspect to me when she's sat on sofa. Something not right there.
@DoobieDeb
@DoobieDeb Жыл бұрын
You Don't Let you child in a car PERIOD
@captainofmysoul6525
@captainofmysoul6525 Жыл бұрын
Although this was in the late 80s , I couldn't imagine leaving my baby behind. 😢
@stephanied9629
@stephanied9629 Жыл бұрын
Back then in the 1980s, in a small town, it wouldn’t have been abnormal to do.
@captainofmysoul6525
@captainofmysoul6525 Жыл бұрын
@@stephanied9629 I certainly understand that. I know things were much different in the 80s than they are today.
@katherine9109
@katherine9109 Жыл бұрын
@@stephanied9629abnormal to lock the car..? sorry, it's not clear to me what you mean. but no matter. I don't agree that it would've been normal to not lock the car in a small town in 1980. I'm from a small town and I know - a good mother would never leave her sleeping child alone anywhere..!!!
@BeKind2AllKinds
@BeKind2AllKinds Жыл бұрын
But that was not true in the 80s and even 90s. Context matters.
@kenmarelove9176
@kenmarelove9176 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe she killed him, police use psychics all the time, not so far fetched that she had a dream. Regardless, those cops/coroner completely blew it.
@janicearluck6637
@janicearluck6637 Жыл бұрын
how can she be a psychic when she her self says that her baby is gone.
@kenmarelove9176
@kenmarelove9176 Жыл бұрын
I didn't say she was a psychic, my point was if cops sometimes bring in people with genuine psychic abilities it's no so far fetched that a mother could have a dream or vision about her own child. ​@@janicearluck6637
@snoop4470
@snoop4470 10 ай бұрын
Police haven't used physics since the 80s. Back when people actually believed that bullshit.
@MomCatMeows
@MomCatMeows 8 ай бұрын
Do y'all in Canada just NOT do ground searches when a baby goes missing? I'm super confused how law enforcement weren't searching nearby wooded areas? Wild story!
@genniejefferson6588
@genniejefferson6588 10 ай бұрын
If she didn’t do it, why not try to find the person who did it. She did it. , because who Leaves a baby in the car in the dead of winter. She left him in the snow before running errands.
@BlueGiraffes01
@BlueGiraffes01 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. That’s why she’s gotta be in disguise too. Doesn’t want people to know.. because, we know..
@louisayoung7816
@louisayoung7816 9 ай бұрын
Def sounds like the family did it to teach her a lesson, and note the baby was NOT dead when they found it. So they had only just put the baby there. Thats why it didn't have frostbite - the forensics lady said it could not have been dead until it was put in the body bag without oxygen
@sockersss1
@sockersss1 6 ай бұрын
I don't think he was alive by any means when he was found. She led police to his body, it wasn't a dream. Jesus. It's pretty clear who did this. And why is there only 1 picture of him??? That is weird. All mothers take tons of pictures of their babies, how is there only 1 fuzzy, not smiling picture of that little boy? Her own family said she was a terrible person.
@EricaSilva-fq9ed
@EricaSilva-fq9ed 6 ай бұрын
There aren’t many baby pictures of me, my family was poor af and that was a luxury item
@momofthree7030
@momofthree7030 Жыл бұрын
Should of atleast been charged with child negligence causing death. She left her child alone in a car and didnt even get a slap on the wrist!!
@dianabehr3169
@dianabehr3169 11 ай бұрын
FY
@EricaSilva-fq9ed
@EricaSilva-fq9ed 6 ай бұрын
Her kids dead, it gets no worse.
@BB-xe2dh
@BB-xe2dh 11 ай бұрын
im sorry, she did not dream where he was the only way she knew where he was, is because she left him there. the fact that the car seat was buckled without a kid in there is proof that she didnt have him when she went to the bank. did they question the kid?
@jamesb.9155
@jamesb.9155 7 ай бұрын
One of THE weirdest stories ever; finding the child in such a way.
@0405aries
@0405aries 11 ай бұрын
NEVER heard what cause of death was-
@susanwoodrome4651
@susanwoodrome4651 10 ай бұрын
Hypothermia
@melissamarioth9554
@melissamarioth9554 9 ай бұрын
My heart breakes for this mom she didnt have a chqnce to even morn her babys passing that they threw her in jail😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😮😮
@sarahfarmer6835
@sarahfarmer6835 Ай бұрын
At that time, bodies did not have to be warmed up before declaring them deceased. I confirmed this with one of our cardiologists. So that pathologist was incorrect and for her to suggest that the baby was still alive therefore laying huge guilt on the investigating team is an injustice.
@kellygrubbs915
@kellygrubbs915 11 ай бұрын
I’m just beginning to watch but had to comment WHO would leave their baby unattended in a vehicle period?!?!? I know this world was a lot safer back then BUT HE WAS A BABY!!!! 🤦🏼‍♀️💔😞
@sherriec5258
@sherriec5258 Жыл бұрын
What's the reasons someone would abduct a child, a baby? ...because they wanted the child for themselves, to raise for whatever reasons, or a pedophile took him. No indication what so ever in this video that there was a pedophile involved. And if someone took the baby to raise for themselves, they certainly wouldn't have taken him to the woods and lay him in the snow to die. If the mother didn't do it, then what other reason would a person have to do this, other than what I mentioned? Either the mother did it, or a pedophile took him, or someone that wanted him for their own. No other logical reason. Unless.... some nutcase got ticked that she left the child alone in that car and to "teach her a lesson" they took the baby and placed it in the snow so the mother would "pay for her choice".
@edithtierce8209
@edithtierce8209 Жыл бұрын
They put him in a place closest to town where it looked like her dream……..
@sherriec5258
@sherriec5258 Жыл бұрын
@@edithtierce8209 Oh wow, haven't though of that. Yes, I guess that could be.
@franceskavalec350
@franceskavalec350 10 ай бұрын
or some one who took the child left him in the snow for fear of being caught.
@sherriec5258
@sherriec5258 10 ай бұрын
@@franceskavalec350 Yes you could be right about that.
@emzi4948
@emzi4948 7 ай бұрын
Ummmm.... Why would you let a journalist handle evidence????
@sarahholland2600
@sarahholland2600 3 ай бұрын
Shes wearing gloves.
@brookegoslin
@brookegoslin 11 ай бұрын
How was the baby taken did she not lock the doors !? Very weird . Nobody would ever leave a child in an unlocked car .
@steppo99
@steppo99 Сағат бұрын
would you notice footprints in the snow while driving?
@drips1030
@drips1030 10 ай бұрын
Had a dream and led them to the exact spot 😂😂😂
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 7 ай бұрын
Ikr. Suspicious to say the least. And then she didn't even ask to see him after he was discovered? It just doesn't add up
@tracietaylormaddocks7114
@tracietaylormaddocks7114 9 ай бұрын
Wow u guys are amazing!!!❣️❣️❣️✌🏼💯🥰🙏
@teresacorley7874
@teresacorley7874 10 ай бұрын
How come the other child wasant in a car seat in those days this is so sad 3:42
@DeeJayMarie
@DeeJayMarie 9 ай бұрын
Wait... Nobody ever even tried to revive that baby? The officer knows death when he see's it? The baby was possibly alive while they worked the crime scene and left him laying in the snow and then they say he may have suffocated in the body bag? I would sue that Law Enforcement Officer and the affiliated Law enforcement Station. What a horrible revelation that poor Mother had to learn about her Baby.😭
@jasonprice1089
@jasonprice1089 3 ай бұрын
Nevermind...why wouldn't the mother fight like a hell cat to save her baby or see if it was still alive?! She did it 100%. Let's hear the other son's testimony.
@DoobieDeb
@DoobieDeb Жыл бұрын
Then who done it?????
@Emy53
@Emy53 9 ай бұрын
If the frozen tears were still on the baby, did the mother just throw him in the snow to freeze, and took off????
@beth_watersa_glam_doll6642
@beth_watersa_glam_doll6642 8 ай бұрын
Send the clothing and such to get tested
@trece309
@trece309 Ай бұрын
I can't believe you left the baby in the car. Omg. 😮
@brendashenda4249
@brendashenda4249 9 ай бұрын
If she didn't lead the, than what about Officer Quinn? He happened to stop exactly where Dusty was? What are the odds? How do we know which is the true story of that drive??
@chowmarina008
@chowmarina008 11 ай бұрын
Im a single mom, ive been overwhelmed dozens of times i get it but i would never have left my baby in the car ever. If he was slerping in his seat i wouldve instrapped him and taken him with me careful not to wake him up. That woman is 100% guilty and a crappy parent.
@BobPaganPaganBob
@BobPaganPaganBob 4 ай бұрын
Should of closed your legs
@Bebecat477
@Bebecat477 Жыл бұрын
I feel the mother was guilty. The carseat buckles get me and taking the police to the body. And at the end of it all, who took the child, who has been charged? It was the mother in my opinion.
@Emy53
@Emy53 9 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness...the child may have been alive in that body bag....horrific, but was that proven?
@Emy53
@Emy53 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the child was too weak to cry, but had anyone heard a whimper, they would have checked the body. The thing that makes the mother Julie appear quilty is because she knew where to find the body. That is bizarre no matter how you look at it.
@cicada38
@cicada38 9 ай бұрын
Some very strange and bizarre things have happened with family connections. Mothers have connections with their children that some don't even realize. A gut feeling, a 6th sense... it's not something new.
@tishas.2945
@tishas.2945 3 ай бұрын
Who leaves their baby in the car alone and it’s freezing outside!!!! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️WHY!!!
@ma53jg
@ma53jg 10 ай бұрын
But if she knew the location of little Dusty's body...?
@nitayat9124
@nitayat9124 8 ай бұрын
But if she wanted him to die why she leaded the police to that complicate place?
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 7 ай бұрын
​@@nitayat9124Not saying she is but psychopaths are known to do that
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
I suspect it was a family member that took him and they told her they'd leave the baby in the woods to be found if she didn't tell police who did it. She led them out of the city to the general area she'd been told they'd find the baby. He was likely there for only an hour or so and could have been revived if the cops had gotten medical attention.
@celestinemutua2555
@celestinemutua2555 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't they question the father to theboy, am suspecting the parents moreso the father
@laraoneal7284
@laraoneal7284 9 ай бұрын
Why today this mother in looks, demeanor and whole personality is unrecognizable. Whether she was told to disguise herself or not she comes off as totally sketchy.
@jNeal-gj9iu
@jNeal-gj9iu 9 ай бұрын
These cops are lazy.
@wakeup6759
@wakeup6759 Жыл бұрын
she's admitting to the crime by means of a convenient "dream" invention. I smell BS. She's shedding crocodile tears. sobbing but no tears coming out of her eyes.
@BlueGiraffes01
@BlueGiraffes01 10 ай бұрын
That smile when she was acquitted sure was real. Soooo happy she got away with murder.
@Thedeathofme-1301
@Thedeathofme-1301 8 ай бұрын
Dreams happens That smile tho does make yah wonder. However there was no investigations. Everything was done wrong to prove beyond a benefit of a doubt. If she did it they didn't do their job to prove it. And they didn't even bother to look elsewhere. Because the question would come up for the time of death and they officers would be blamed.
@katherine9109
@katherine9109 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe she left her most valuable 'possession' in plain sight in her unlocked car. she would've locked the car if she'd left some inanimate object in there, like - say - a computer, her purse, even groceries..!!!
@TooTsie2232
@TooTsie2232 11 ай бұрын
💔💔💔💔✨🕊️✨🦋✨💔💔💔💔 👼🏼✨🤍WHY DIDNT THIS BABY’s LIFE💔MATTER!?!?!?!? 💔WHY???💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔👼🏼
@laraoneal7284
@laraoneal7284 9 ай бұрын
This case is utterly abhorrent and unconscionable. The mother is despicable.
@gritskennedy5007
@gritskennedy5007 9 ай бұрын
Why would they have killed a little baby to teach julie a lesson?that makes zero sense!!!!
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
They didn't intend to kill the baby. Likely they took him due to the internal family issues relized they were in deep, deep trouble once she freaked out and a search began. So the SIL told her they'd leave the baby somewhere to be found if she didn't tell the police who did it; then Julie lead the police there. The baby, as the expert doctor testified, was likely still alive and could have been saved if the police officer had gotten medical attention.
@sharonlantz4462
@sharonlantz4462 9 ай бұрын
Did she lock her car????
@leesacoles9154
@leesacoles9154 9 ай бұрын
For what would the uncle and aunt kill the baby for?! For what?!
@leeannalovestherain
@leeannalovestherain 5 ай бұрын
So awful, my goodness
@melodylynn4504
@melodylynn4504 7 ай бұрын
This woman, the mother of Dusty left him alone in the car and the car unlocked. She needs to really take a deep hard look into herself. She is blaming others for her stupidity. This caused little baby Dusty’s demise. Then the police didn’t perform CPR on the baby or really do their due diligence in fully investigating this case properly.
@wendyalthaus9389
@wendyalthaus9389 10 ай бұрын
Why would she leave him in the. Car?
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 7 ай бұрын
Because it was the late 80s in a small town. People were careless with their children in the past. Some still are.
@dodgingbullets3503
@dodgingbullets3503 7 ай бұрын
I dont know... 1 year old left in the unlocked car ant took the other one with her?... Parked way too far from the bank for my comfort....omg..That mother has Nothing to smile about...I would be screaming, " Who killed my baby" I dont trust her...
@YaYaPaBla
@YaYaPaBla 8 ай бұрын
Sad
@angelalawson-smith6293
@angelalawson-smith6293 11 ай бұрын
Good morning
@christinecandelier7380
@christinecandelier7380 9 ай бұрын
If you find a baby in a car you don’t keep him to make a > joke or an advice …
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