Walkera Devo 10 Radio Transmitter Deviation Firmware Multi module protocol

[@DarkShad03]

This explains the wiring a LOT better than the forums. Thank you! Finally daring enough to try it on my own Devo10.

[@chrisstolle5664]

Dude this is so much better than others I have seen. I wish I had seen your vid first instead of messing with the multimodule. It has been nothing but a pain and your method is far better. I'm waiting for stuff from banggood so I can do your mod. Thanks dude!

[@KenVersus]

+Chris Stolle Hope everything works out for you. Just remember you can only have a max of 2 modules with this method. you need the multi-module for 3 or more.

[@chrisstolle5664]

The two modules in your vid are the ones I was going to install so this is perfect!

[@jirvin4505]

I bricked my Devo 10!! Followed these directions and like you I had done a previous 7e so when we come to 23:17 into video and you loaded the 7edfu I followed "dooh". After I disconnected and switched on - nothing ..dead... bricked. After rcgroups search I followed instructions to remove battery, turn radio on and off, wait 10mins before reinsert battery then switch on straight into dfu mode I regained software update screen RELIEF .... I then used the appropriate devo10 dfu file . Alls sweet now and I'm deviated.

[@KenVersus]

+Jeffrey Irvin Good to know if you mess up like that it's not completely dead.

[@felipecosta9632]

Wow at 02:33 the antenas align perfectly. Was that on purpose?

[@KenVersus]

+Felipe Costa lol. I never noticed that.

[@SteveGergetz]

GREAT video. You explain things very clearly, you do things in systematic, step-by-step order, and you answered a lot of questions I had since learning about Deviation etc. Thanks very much for the time you spent sharing your knowledge. I do have one question though which is probably obvious for most people but somehow I never seem to find a firm answer. I keep reading/hearing that without doing the multi-module mod. In fact, I see in a reply you wrote to Chris Stolle a couple weeks ago, you said "Just remember you can have a max of 2 modules with this method" But what I'm not clear on is if you (and others) mean 2 ADDITIONAL modules, or 2 total modules. In your video, after placing the perf board, the NRF, and the A7105 modules in their positions, you didn't show the complete back of the unit right before putting the cover back on. So I'm confused as to whether you put the CYRF module back in AND it's still functional, or was the CYRF module actually removed? In other words, the mod you did in this video...was the result at the end of your video that you had THREE working modules that could be enabled on-demand from the firmware: (1) CYRF, (2) NRF, (3) A7105? Or did you only have TWO working modules (with the CYRF actually removed or disabled): (1) NRF, (2) A7105?

[@KenVersus]

+Steve Gergetz Hi, there are signal lines (TMS/TCK) on the Devo PCB to add 2 additional modules. The A7105 and NRF are additional modules. So if you count the already installed CYRF chip, it would be 3. The CYRF module is only removed temporarily to have access to the connections for soldering. Hope it clears it up.

[@SteveGergetz]

Perfect. You rock! We (many of us in the RC community) really appreciate it!

[@superarguna]

At 13:15 it shows vdd on two points. Do i bridge?

[@KenVersus]

It's been a while since I did that video. But I recall picking just one of the VDD. also there are newer 4in1 one modules that are simpler to install in a devo10. Maybe take a look at that.

[@michaelhead1879]

I have a question maybe you can answer. I have the DEVO 10 and i built a RC Lawn mower from an old zero turn i had. i used the devo and a receiver i had out of an old drone to control the lawn mower. you can see it on my channel. the programming took me a while to get correct on the transmitter and everything has been working fine, except for the other day i went to home depot and left the transmitter sitting outside. a light rain came through and got it wet. the transmitter still comes on everything works as it should but.. the screen doesn't show any information. it lights up but thats it no information is displayed. i have a DEVO 12e that i could use in place of the DEVO 10 but the problem is i dont know how to set it up the exact way as the devo 10. Is there anyway to get the Configuration off the devo 10 and move to the devo 12e? thanks for any help. and also to get into usb mode do i have to flash the firmware or will it work stock? and if i do flash it like in the video does it reset everything and i loose all the configurations i already have on the devo 10?

[@cldth1962]

Ken, thank you for additional pictures! Good work.

[@machismodon9002]

@KenVersus, any chance you can show how you removed the pots knob and pots assembly, I can't seem to find a way to remove it (so that I can move this to another hole) as seen on your video. great video, thanks in advance!

[@KenVersus]

You need a hex key to remove the screw on the knob then if I recall you need a flathead to remove the pot from the holes. Not sure if my memory is right.

[@machismodon9002]

OK, let me check, I see the hole on the knob, but was not sure if the hex screw fits there, I'll give it another try tonight! Thank you very much! I got the black Deco 10 BTW.

[@machismodon9002]

it work, i was using a torx screw thats why it didnt bite, so i got the hex screw driver and was finally able to unscrew the knob screws! thanks!

[@Z4nd3r-D]

Hi Ken, just completed my mod by following your tutorial. Works great, thank you so much for giving me the confidence to do it. I am wondering how you transport it? did you find a big case so the 3 antennas can be left on or do you remove them? Thanks in advance. Al

[@tammovh]

Great video. Thanks. Just wondered if you might know of a wiring schematic to install a CC2500 module to the Devo 10. Look forward to your help!

[@KenVersus]

+tammovh bitbucket.org/PhracturedBlue/deviation/wiki/ModuleList

[@andrewjackson7476]

I am afraid that modules and antennas will interfere with each other.

[@TheStickyBusiness]

There is 3 in one module now sold at banggood for this and you can have the third that you re missing there. Where you got the white antennas? or you painted the black ones? How are the gimbals of the 10 compared to the 7e and the spektum? I have the spektrum dx6 and the devo 7e, I prefer the gimbals of the dx6 because they have a little more resistance, the 7e feels more soft. Ho much is the weight of the 10?

[@KenVersus]

+Multirotor Go Yes there is a 4in1 at BG now but it's still pretty new. I don't have anythign that uses the CC2500 module so I'll stick with this for a bit. I got the white antenna's from eBay. I think the gimbals are better on DX6i. Not sure about weight but the 10 is a bit on the heavy side.

[@TheStickyBusiness]

kenVersus heavier then DX6i? do you feel 10 has a little bit more resolution then 7e?

[@KenVersus]

+Multirotor Go I think the 10 has the same resolution as the 7e but just a bigger screen. The 10's backlight is way to bright even at the lowest setting. I preferred the 7e's screen even though it's smaller. Yes the 10 will be heavier than the DX6i. The 10 uses 8xAA batteries vs 4xAA of the DX6i. But in terms of features the 10 wins. I have since gotten rid of the DX6i.

[@TheStickyBusiness]

kenVersus Thanks, good to know, well 8 batteries oh my god! I hate 6, imagine 8. how long does your lipo last on it?

[@KenVersus]

+Multirotor Go I don't remember how long it lasted but it was quite long. My lipo died recently and started using 8xAA's for now.

[@cldth1962]

Well done ! Module wiring makes sense but can you describe Purfboard x3 locations, a llittle deeper detail along with antenna location male /female with pigtails soldiered in and extended beyond RC Shell? Thanks!

[@KenVersus]

I can see if I have some pics of some of those locations since I don't want to open it back up. I took quite a few pics while I was modding it.

[@KenVersus]

+Mtnstream T See some more pics here on thingiverse. www.thingiverse.com/thing:1260292

[@radanzwinidi]

I wonder, what is the weight of Devo 10?

[@j.michaeltofaute8337]

How hard is it to do this? I am a relative newb that knows how to fly. I fly mainly Quadcopters. I have limited soldering skills. I wish there was someplace to buy one already moded.

[@milhausemilhause5502]

Hi kenVersus, where You bought white 10dBi antenna? Thank You

[@KenVersus]

+Milhause Milhause 6dbi

[@alfonsoirwin8372]

Really good review.. I have a question. Do you know if this transmitter bind out of the box to the Yizhan Tarantula X6 Quadcopter ?

[@KenVersus]

OOB it only works with Walkera protocols so no. Not sure what that protocol the X6 uses...

[@alfonsoirwin8372]

Searching I found that is called V2x2 protocol..

[@KenVersus]

I think it's supported by Deviation and one of the modules, you'd have to confirm with the deviationtx forums. But you definitely have to flash the firmware and solder a module.

[@rcpilot4970]

Devo 10 vs Devo 7e? How does each feel in your hand? In terms of features is the cost of the 10 worth it to get over the 7e? Thanks.

[@KenVersus]

+NELICOPTER I like both. It's a tough one but I ended up selling my 7e and keeping only the 10. The 7e feels nice and portable. The 10 is bulky but has more switches. I think something like the 6s is a good compromise but it's expensive.

[@rcpilot4970]

Do you run a Lipo instead of the AA cells? That would help make it feel less bulky. I've basically decided on the Devo 10. I plan to work in a hobby shop where appearance is everything as well. Thanks for your help.

[@tiagotiagot]

If I get this for my X5C, would I need a new transmitter later when I finally become able to afford a non-toy quad (the racing/acrobatic ones) ?

[@DanielJutz]

could you use multipe rf modules with just one antenna by using an approptiate switch?

[@KenVersus]

+Daniel Jutz if you want to use only one antenna. Check out the latest diy 4in1 module for devo 10. It's in the description.

[@winterbuggie]

hi i was wondering ifu had the new 4 in 12 RF module, where do u solder the cc250 connection to a devo 10 after using up the tms and tck pins

[@KenVersus]

+Jonethan Lim not sure since I don't have the 4in1. I think there is a KZbin video on it.

[@winterbuggie]

hi! i figured it out by getting lost in the deviationtx forums. i soldered it to the B7 pin.

[@KenVersus]

Jonethan Lim Good to hear. yes the forums there are very helpful. Enjoy!

[@DarkShad03]

Could you tell me what kind of range you are getting with these new transmitters?

[@KenVersus]

+Dark Shadow I have't done any range testing with them. I don't have any exact distances to give you unfortunately. The 7E has the shortest range. I often lose signal if I fly my quad out too far at the park. The 10, I can pretty much fly until I can't see it. Then it crashes because I can't see it, not cause of range. :) Devo 7E is 15mW, and the Devo 10 is 150mW. Also depends on the aircraft too.

[@DarkShad03]

Thanks for coming back to me so quickly. I was referring to the additional secondary protocols you installed inside your devo10. Do you get similar distances, or do you only recommend it for indoor use?

[@KenVersus]

+Dark Shadow With both the 7E/10, if you use external antennas, you'd get the same decent outdoor range. The A7105 chip claims to go 500m... more like 100m I'm estimating. Hope that helps. Probably not for FPV. I'd go with a Taranis for that.

[@DarkShad03]

Alright, thank you for the info.

[@rcpilot4970]

So it's ok to install the module before flashing Deviation? It won't blow up with the stock firmware? Thanks.

[@KenVersus]

I flashed Deviation first and would probably be what I'd recommend.

[@rcpilot4970]

For anyone who reads this, I had already installed the module before reading Kens advice and it didn't explode. Thanks anyway Ken. Everything up and running! ;)

[@pedrotorres5685]

great video! question, I have a devo10 with the furious 320. after install deviation, the binding between devo and furious going to be the same or do I need to install a file to fly the furious again? I don't know a lot as you can see, I'll appreciate your help.

[@KenVersus]

+pedro torres you'll have to create a new setting for it. And rebind. See of you can find someone who already has a file for it set up on the Deviationtx forums. If not you have to make one from scratch. For all my quads I've been able to download settings someone else made.

[@pedrotorres5685]

Thanks a lot for your help!

[@JohnFHendry]

You video on installing the hardware is well done. Some people shield the NRF24L01 module and wonder if there is any noticeable benefit since the other modules are shielded. Have you done any range tests since doing the hardware upgrades? I am at a loss why Walkera does not offer at least the DEVO 7E and 10 with the hardware upgrade of these two popular RF modules as on the manufacture's side the cost of the extra wire and soldering with the RF modules is quite small but Walkera could tack on forty to fifty dollars to the price of the radio. I am also at a los as why the DEVO 10 is sometimes not shown as a current TX on Walkera's website... yet sometimes it comes up but no downloads for it..

[@KenVersus]

+John F Hendry Hi, I have not done range tests since I'm just a park flier or living room mostly. And for that, they have exceeded my expectations. I agree, if Walkera made a plug in module system, they'd have a winner. Soldering stuff does scare people off a bit but with practice, it's not that tough. I only have high school electronics experience and if I recall, my soldering skills were just atrocious, but I have improved... a bit.

[@JohnFHendry]

kenVersus LOL... I can get a good low resistance connection with a smooth short surface path but you wouldn't want to pay me by the hour. The main advantage IMO to Walkera offering TX's already with modules besides making a profit is eliminating people making mistakes (like removing the RF shielding) that can affect other people's equipment and therefore protect the hobby. Walkera is hard to figure out why and how they run their business and could never be my main radio of choice the way they drop the ball on past products and run their website where you can't even find mention of the DEVO 7E & where the DEVO 10 shows up sometimes... but not all the time and I have issues where their links are stolen and you get redirected. Had to get drivers from off their site... makes no sense to me why they don't support their current TX's..

[@KenVersus]

+John F Hendry That too, if you don't know what you're doing, you can affect others' equipment. True their site sucks. I had to get their flashing tool from another site since I couldn't find it. If I did any sort of long range or needed reliability, I'd go with a FrSky Taranis. The walkera TX's are fine for bind & fly micro/minis.

[@JohnFHendry]

+kenVersus Agree, some people swear by the DEVO line and it was ahead of the times with low cost telemetry but I got it for the micro scale. I'm still using Futaba on 72hz for my long range wood gliders I care about the most. Didn't get a 2.4TX until the DX9 came out and that was to fly a Nano QX. Hard to believe the performance you can get now since then out of 4 good 7mm brushed motors in the dark and hoping the DEVO has good range to take advantage of night distances with lights. Little buggas disappear in the day time;-) But afraid I 'm and getting spoiled and lazy using lights for orientation.

[@Tschosef]

Hello, Thank you for this nice Tutorial..... i am already a Devo10 user since 2 years.... A Question, is the Telemetry working by using a FrSky Receifer?

[@KenVersus]

+Tschosef I'm not sure since I don't use it with FrSky, but if I recall, FrSky receivers have very limited features with deviationTX.

[@Tschosef]

+kenVersus Hello, okay... meanwhile i know, to use the FrSky Protocol i have to "impant" the cc2500 RF Module.... as shown in the deviationxt webpage ;-) ... but the "work" is nearly the same . . . then also telemetry should be possible

[@bongofury3176]

I can feel a flash coming on...top vid...thanks

[@davesilva9174]

I'm on a Mac and need Deviation to upgrade my Devo 10(white). Do you know how to upload the Deviation file, since it seems to be only PC capable, with a Mac? My current Devo 10 system reads: Ver. 0.80A / Library: ver 0.2 Can you help? Thank you.

[@KenVersus]

+Dave Silva you have to have a PC. The software only runs in windows.

[@Mikek6771]

i have the devo 10 and the 3 in 1 module. havnt put it in yet, just wondering what kind of range are u getting on all protocols. thanks

[@KenVersus]

+MK bodybuilding never tested myself but people are saying 100 to 200m.

[@Mikek6771]

kenVersus just watched your video on the 9xr pro, think i should have went with that instead, i like the voice alerts

[@KenVersus]

Yeah I think the 9XR Pro is better value, but the Devo 10 has better gimbals. But at the end of the day, they both do the job.

[@KenVersus]

www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=35359837&postcount=33

[@BrunoOltramari]

The mainboard of my devo10 spoiled where I could buy a new one?

[@KenVersus]

+Bruno Oltramari I'm not sure. I recall seeing parts on banggood. But they're not there anymore.

[@vedasticks]

for the mosi, miso and sck connectioins youc ould make things easier by using header pins, just cut the number you need of and solder to the headers, and use heatshrink to tidy it up. shame the other connections on the board dont have header blocks on them, wouild have made it almost plug and play

[@andrewtourney9407]

seriously great video, well explained and showed the steps. subscribed for sure

[@Caballingus]

great video- very informative and helpful- thanks for sharing

[@jimzdziarski6219]

Does anyone know if I can purchase a transmitter that has been modded? Will pay good for one:-)

[@KenVersus]

+Jim Zdziarski check out the forums at deviationtx.com. They might have people selling already modded units.

[@davidreidguru]

Nice video !! Thanks :)

[@j.michaeltofaute8337]

Awesome vid....just wish I had the skill.