Walking in Unity: Monique Duson & Krista Bontrager Interview - The Becket Cook Show Ep. 169

[@BecketCook]

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[@brandtlego]

Home run! So much truth and wisdom here that is lacking within the church today! The Gospel has been replaced by social justice and we’re only becoming more and more divided! As always, the answer lies in Christ alone! Thank you Becket for having these wise ladies on your show!

[@reginablock6850]

Would love to have more of these type of conversations in the Church at large. No yelling, no name calling, no baiting each other, but a genuine desire to start from a place of unity and remain unified despite differences that God gave to those created in His image and after His likeness.

[@pagegallimore1833]

Two beautiful sisters in the Lord. Thank you so much for your work and your voice. All glory to God.

[@janeaair]

It's not about race, but grace: it's not about skin, but sin. A good one from Joe Schimmel.

[@PhilAlumb]

Liberalism and Wokeism can very covertly creep into the Church. We've seen the ever-growing alphabet mafia groups with Agendas work their way into the church..and they almost always ride in on the back of supposed "good intentions."

[@PhilAlumb]

Interesting my benign, respectful comment was deleted. Wonder why? Not politically correct?

[@Andreamom001]

What does that mean? It’s so vague. It could mean almost anything.

[@lkae4]

I strongly disagree. This is about racism being real but race not being real. Racism has been the banner of the left for the past 15 years. It is the reactive banner of the right. We need to deal with it.

[@talithacumi8034]

Lovely guests, lovely host! I just loved this talk. It is so refreshing to have people who share the same view. I work and am around so many who are living the DEI cultural Marxism view. It's in the church. It's so suffocating. Thank you!

[@monzorella1]

CRT and DEI was never a real issue for true Christians. CRT and DEI was a huge problem for white people wanting to hold on to all their power and not look like the bad guy.

[@maryowen1722]

One of the zillion things I ❤about The Bible is its honest portrayal of ALL peoples, rather than skewing the Truth to suit some more than others. We all bleed red and so did Jesus.

[@TexasLyoness]

Jesus dying on the cross has the capacity to turn cultural enemies into family! I love that.🎚️

[@MarkThomas-mk5sl]

I am so glad I discovered your channel some time ago now Becket. This was such a great interview. As a person of colour who works for one of the most wokest organisation in the uk 🇬🇧 I feel empowered to continue to challenge critical race theory ideologies and DEI whereever it presents its self. This interview had me rewinding, at times raises an eyebrow to some of the responses but often agreeing with these lovely sisters in Christ. I will be buying the book. Shoutout from the uk 🇬🇧

[@BecketCook]

Thank you! God Bless

[@Yj-Fj]

What raised your eyebrow?

[@alexandriarcollins]

I love their KZbin channel so much‼️I used to be a Progressive Christian, & I had such a victim mentality in relation to my race & gender. After recommitting my life to Christ, I found their page & it was like a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately, a good number of Professing Christians don’t have a biblical stance about social issues nowadays. I love how passionate Monique & Krista are about biblical truth.

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@Yj-Fj]

What changed your mind from victimhood?

[@Lilalalalalallllla]

Amala Ekpunobi has a great channel on the subject as well!

[@Julia29853]

I cant find their channel? I have found them interviewed on other channels?

[@alexandriarcollins]

@@Lilalalalalalllllayes I love Amala😊

[@tiffanicross5359]

This conversation was amazing! These ladies really get it! It is the gospel that unites us as believers! Thank you for the reminder. 😊💕

[@loricatesthomas6968]

So excited to see three of my favorite people together. Great conversation. ❤

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@maryowen1722]

I never heard of either, and together they are amazing!!!

[@deebryson491]

Great interview with these two sisters in the Lord! Wonderful words of wisdom!

[@Jessicad9304]

What a lovely healing conversation. I’m so hopeful that the black and white communities can heal and come together again.

[@katiedc8239]

God bless both these women! What an excellent interview and a book that every believer should read. Thank you Becket! God bless all of you!

[@kellyschroeder7437]

Amen. Reconciling sinful hearts to a Holy God 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻

[@mytreasuredcreations]

This is a great reminder that we're brothers and sisters in Christ first!

[@lorebeth]

Fabulous interview.! There isn’t a single person who couldn’t benefit from watching. Loved Monique’s comments re CS Lewis first things first quote, and reminding us to listen to understand, not just to respond. Krista’s analogy of the human race under one Father with the same set of rules really hit home. The truth is beautiful and radiates in these incredible women. Another must-have book!

[@imbreezy3657]

Such a great conversation and so needed. Going to buy the book!

[@latricelatrice7812]

Such a breath of fresh air!!! To God be the glory! Please Lord, continue to bless these three as they spread your truth . Allow them to gain more and more ears to share this message…Amein

[@RoseCarson-u5m]

I was brought up that no matter what race or color one was, we just accepted them without question. This attention brings radical discrimination and should never be. We are to love all people of races , as we are all the same.

[@rebekahtemple250]

9:28 is it right there! We can’t be in unity with the world. We are called to witness of Jesus’ saving power! Thank you for this awesome discussion. Always look forward to your episodes, Becket. 😊

[@joyalden710]

Love love love. Thank you for this balanced biblical perspective. 💕💕

[@ENFPerspectives]

What a timely upload. Thanks for keeping your channel up and running faithfully.

[@laurasprayberry6842]

Cannot wait to get this book!!! Wonderful interview!!!

[@damientahbaz3172]

There was a lot of good said by both guests, but I was rejoicing when Becket said that (in regards to the issue of reparations), that there is no plan in that for forgiveness. So simple but beautiful, awesome

[@MurasakiPuppetProject]

One human race yes. Love this women.

[@demirobertson8435]

💖💖💖loved this!💖💖💖 I love 💗 your desire to be led by the Word of God! thanks Becket, thanks Krista and Monique💖💖💖

[@maryowen1722]

Truly lovely and funny and soulful; Brilliant in its clarity of the issue; it is “black & white” when it comes to Biblical unity! THANK YOU AGAIN, Becket, because the oil flows from the head down❤

[@maureenwm]

Really good discussion on race that is based on biblical concepts. Thankd for that.

[@simoneheath4991]

Great conversation I hope it reaches those who are getting confused and upset about this subject. It felt very respectful and inclusive 😊

[@evanrister]

I'm so glad you had Krista on! I love theology mom! She's the best. 😊

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@ZakharLovesJesus]

Such a healthy and unifying conversation. Thank you

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@byzyt6931]

What a great conversation! It was refreshing to hear these issues discussed not from a political perspective but from a biblical one. Thank you for having these ladies on, Becket. Oh, by the way, I have a little sisterly suggestion (NOT a criticism!) -- it has become colloquial to say "guys" in addressing groups of people, and I'm certainly no feminist, but I'm wondering if in our current gender-minimizing, gender-confused culture, perhaps you might consider addressing guests in this situation as "ladies." I say this with nothing but love and respect! ❤

[@njhdreams2415]

Wonderful show!!!! we are family!

[@tammyhaywood1650]

Excellent subject!! Thank you so much for discussing a subject that can be so tender!!

[@JenniferJohnson-fh8fx]

This was such a great conversation and very educational. I hope these ladies continue to speak on this topic.

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@reginaford8575]

The book Philemon- forgiveness and reconciliation!!! Great interview!!😊

[@User_Happy35]

Thank you so much for this. I feel like I've been well fed. So much practical useful information for the body of Christ.

[@laurithompson3276]

Very insightful conversation! I'm going to be listening to this again and again, and sharing it with friends so we can have similar conversations ❤.

[@SheilaAllen-Harris]

WOW! I loved this interview! I am a retired public school teacher (June 2024) and I must say that CRT and DEI is rampant in that setting. It drives me crazy when I see the “creep” of these constructs into church! We are ALL God’s children! ALL of us! Remember that at the name of Jesus EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue confess…” We all serve one Lord who is King of ALL!

[@loredanaschwertfeger3369]

Great guests! Love their friendship!

[@chrystellmom]

Going to get get the book!! Thanks to Monique and Krista for their obedience to the Lord.

[@BecketCook]

Thank you! God Bless

[@maryowen1722]

“A mutual moving”👍🏼🙌🙌🏽

[@luciepatterson1177]

Great to hear this discussion. Thank you so much for your service to the Lord and for sharing this with us. I pre ordered the book and Amazon removed my order lol. I will re-pre-order.🤣 Becket, still praying for you daily. My nephew is going to school soon so will no longer shout thru the house “TIME TO PRAY FOR BECKET!” Still praying for Elijah. What an honor to be able to pray for our brothers and sisters in Christ!!

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@sondrabrumett4626]

I loved this discussion. These ladies make tremendous and insightful points that bring clarity to these very difficult topics and unity and healing through these discussions.

[@sondrabrumett4626]

I went ahead and pre-ordered their book. Good stuff!!

[@bcave782]

Great conversation! Thanks Monique and Krista and Becket!

[@TryingTheHardHikeATAdrieWashne]

This was great! I love all that was said.

[@susanbalensky3233]

Good interview. Thank you

[@kristyspanjer964]

Becket always has great guests! Love TBCS!

[@clwaverider2769]

Excellent show.

[@AlexaCramer]

Love those two! Cannot wait for their book!!

[@kristinballancemusic]

This was great! Such a refreshing conversation. ❤

[@kimber52415]

Wow, fantastic interview. So many great points and thoughts to dwell on, thanks!

[@kathleens.laroche754]

This was really helpful. Thank you!

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@jenniferoutlaw1975]

What a great discussion! Pastor Miles McPhereson wrote a book a few years ago called "The Third Option". A couple of highlights from that are: all of us are made in the Image of God, and because od that, we must see others as our neighbor and love them as Jesus commanded. I'm so glad that this topic of Biblical unity is spreading!

[@truthwatch2858]

Blessings in Jesus ✝️

[@Denise-yj3se]

Great interview!

[@suzziezhills]

One of my “closest” friends is a woman young enough to be my child who is so talented and amazing is a black woman. I call her my daughter but she’s really my Christian sister . We had an immediate bond. I could go on but really our shared Christian faith is what holds us together. It’s true. We are all the same race. The Bible tells us so.

[@lisaclements70]

I love this! Jesus loves the little children red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight. 🙏📖✝️❤️🥰

[@warrengoss7547]

In the Body of Christ you are either my brothers and sisters or not. There is no other option..

[@helenholdsworth6407]

@14:49, actually there is! "There is neither Jew nor Greek..male nor female, etc"

[@abrahamphilip6439]

In him is all races & colors

[@maxwellman8233]

SO.VERY.GOOD.❤

[@ClaritySinger]

These voices of biblical clarity are what we need to hear to heal. I wish, in particular, that campus ministries like InterVarsity would use this material and not fall into whatever's going on in higher academia as they hijack terms like "justice."

[@georgewagner7787]

My home church has been talking about this for years. John perkins came once when he was younger

[@dereklee2590]

Praise God to the brother and sister in Christ:)

[@susanjohnson-ek6fh]

Monique: Yes!!! On Anita Baker and Sade. Sublime voices I’ve loved since college. I’m a GenX white girl who also loves Patsy Cline.

[@dereklee2590]

God bless you brother Becket word of God your guess there:)

[@staceyforehand9513]

Amen, only human race and the division is family of God or Lost🎉

[@dereklee2590]

Praise God just preaching God's word:)

[@michellemybelle9591]

Power trio!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@BecketCook]

God Bless

[@laurieesquivel5881]

Really great discussion ❤ On the subject of multi-generational reparations not being a subject addressed in scripture, a situation came to mind that I was hoping you could take a look at and give your feedback on. I just did a bit of research and though the Israelites lived in the land of Egypt peacefully for about half of their actual time there, more than half that time was spent in increasingly more restricted freedom, slavery and harsh treatment. When the Israelites were freed, and led out of Egypt by Moses, it would appear that the Egyptian populace themselves sent the Israelites with what could appear to be reparations, or at the very least provisions as noted in Exodus 12:34. I'm not certain what multi-generational looked like back then as people did live much longer than we do today, but would appreciate hearing your thoughts on this situation as it pertains to reparations. I do agree with and understand your argument that people who were far removed and in no way perpetrating an offense or victims of an offense should not be the parties responsible to make reparations or receive reparations. That seemed like a solid biblical truth. I haven't yet listened to the entire podcast, but I'm hoping you do cover addressing present day injustices as believers, as God tells us to love mercy and do justice. This would also be a great discussion breaking this down. Thank you ❤ Great point. Don't wait for the govt! As the Holy Spirit leads, YOU do something, love it!

[@helenal.7881]

So interesting!

[@babsjand]

The only "bad" thing here is that we have to wait until October to get the book!?!!

[@simplelight1]

Forever and forever the Truth, the Dharma, the perfect happiness of the Buddhas! May all beings come to it sooner than later and be free from suffering and live in perfect joy happiness and understanding and holy conduct!

[@cynthiafisher9907]

John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.”

[@simplelight1]

​​@@cynthiafisher9907Well, ultimately I am for Truth ❤ always and forever ❤ .. that's ultimately what matters.

[@cynthiafisher9907]

@@simplelight1 Jesus was claiming to be the only truth, the only way to God. If one chooses another way, they are not choosing Jesus.

[@simplelight1]

​@@cynthiafisher9907It is not God nor Jesus who matter to me but Truth. Truth is what matters to me and always is and will be where my loyalty lies.

[@cynthiafisher9907]

@@simplelight1 If you read the New Testament with an open heart and mind, you will find the Truth.

[@damientahbaz3172]

There is a verse, in the bible against racism: You shall love your neighboor as yourself.

[@MistressofPemberley77]

There's only one race: the human race. "And hath made of one blood all nations of men..." Acts 17:26 When I'm asked for my "race" on questionnaires, I always put human.

[@cynthiafisher9907]

I somewhat agree, but dna would show a person’s race.

[@Yj-Fj]

‘… However, DNA cannot estimate your “ethnicity” or your “race,” because understandings of these concepts are socially constructed and depend on context, place, and time. We recommend that you use your genetic reports together with your family history to build a complete understanding of your ancestry. …’

[@Katarina4567]

One Creator......GOD One Race.........HUMAN One Problem.....SIN One solution...,..JESUS # The world needs JESUS.

[@damientahbaz3172]

Honestly, the one about "You need to have the power to be racist" , it is basically just manipulative. Whoever came up with that is just trying to load language, by the way that things are defined, to protect certain groups or to give them a pass to hate others without it being called "racist"

[@nickstuart200]

Glancing over my play list my old eyes read "Monique Duson" as "Monroe Doctrine" and I wondered "What's Becket Cook have to say about the Monroe Doctrine?"

[@clm3436]

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing His riches on all who call on Him. Rom.10:12

[@mube8885]

💜

[@ritakelley7166]

I believe that we all are God's children, and we all came into this world with the same two ancestors. We are brothers and sisters in the Lord. We should naturally in the spirit love each other. I love everybody. Let's share Jesus with the world. Show them we are united as the family of God.

[@carolb1871]

makes a whole lot of sense. but there’s a lot of hard heads out there 😅. i enjoyed this talk

[@Tweeza57]

Partiality exists in the playground where the kids look the same but bullying occurs over certain discrepancies not visible to teachers - bullies look for a reason and find one however small and unfair

[@carlarobinson6953]

I don't know if I missed it but how did these two ladies meet each other?

[@dereklee2590]

Amen to scripture as the basis

[@jackie.2780]

Beckett we need 2 episodes a week MINIMUM 🤣

[@BecketCook]

Thank you! God Bless

[@roxannekabotsky2997]

Jesus, Yeshua,the Lamb who takes away the sins of the world. The Lion of Judah. Blessed be His Holy Name.

[@BecketCook]

Amen! God Bless

[@zaitzeff]

mild typo here! About a week before this one, there was a different episode with the same number #169! No problem, but just be aware! Next one I assume to be #171! God bless you!

[@Tweeza57]

I like that - how about being a biblical church 😊❤

[@lkae4]

Race is not real but racism is becoming a bigger and bigger problem left, right and center. We need to talk it out.

[@Lilalalalalallllla]

I mean ethnic differences are real but they are on a superficial level; we are one race in Christ spiritually. Everything else you said is spot on!

[@davesgoldenduck6066]

Hiring is not a sin

[@monember2722]

Its called forgiveness. That is one thing that hasnt been preached to black people on this side of the atlantic. Its also up to people to seek healing for their hearts that have grown up having the wrong of slavery and disrimination reinforced in their lives from community, family, media and academia.

[@monzorella1]

One thing that hasn't been preached and taught to America is repentance. Look at the country right now. This has happened because America has refused to make right the wrong it had done. Every single step in the right direction America has taken. It has been fought for tooth and nail by people of colour. Not one single freedom was given freely.

[@annhinz6326]

How does fear present itself in prejudice/racism?

[@dereklee2590]

Reparations for God in the family of God:)

[@justintan1198]

👍

[@KafkameetsPlath]

I think I disagree with some of the points made by Krista and Monique. But maybe it’s just semantics? There is beauty in all the different “races” God made. Also, there is “racial reconciliation” in Christ and in Him alone. A person who was once racist comes to Christ and is a new creation in Christ, they are able to “reconcile” with their brothers and sisters in Christ by being unified in Christ, they are able to do things they were not able to do before, like love their brothers and sisters in Christ and those they once hated. Love you Becket! ❤ Keep fighting the good fight of faith! Your amazing!

[@gastronomist]

Unfortunately, they have significant misunderstanding of what “systemic racism” is. It isn’t ‘racism within a system’ or the idea that all systems are racist. It is the idea that a system created by a particular race (usually white) will have existential, implicit biases because it will use the cultural rules and norms of the people who created it. The problem with this idea is that it systemic racism is almost impossible to see so they just have faith that it’s there.

[@Lilalalalalallllla]

That is a proposterous sweeping slanderous accusation..every single country or "system" within a country was founded by people of that race. You don't think they have biases in other countries where other races have dominated?? Literally most countries have more issues with racism and prejudice than the U.S. Most other countries don't let that many minorities in so it might not be as clear, but it's also just something far away from most of our accusers in the U.S. Your raciam toward white people is showing.."You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye." Matthew 7:5 Titus 1:10-16 [10] For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. [11] They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. [12] One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” [13] This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, [14] not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. [15] To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. [16] They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. bible.com/bible/59/tit.1.10-16.ESV "