Walther CCP M2 Field Strip and Tabletop Review

[@VETVSS]

Beautiful in its own sense. The take down and assembly is unique. Not boring at all. Challenging is a stretch, but still something different which is needed.

[@ronivichman666]

I personally think it's one of the softer shooting single stack polymer handguns. Usually these guns jump around when firing but this one is real soft and easy to control. Simply love it.

[@seveglider8406]

It would be ideal for conceal carry.

[@paulestridge8734]

That’s what CCP stands for. Concealed carry pistol.

[@TheFirearmGuy]

Great review. This CCP M2 model is much improved

[@IamGroot786]

Walther's ergonomics are unmatched!

[@gregorieschmitt5578]

Thank you for this video! Just got one of these for Christmas- my first fixed barrel pistol. Huge help as I wanted to clean after taking it to the range after I picked it up yesterday.

[@truthseeker635]

Good video. Thanks for the info on the disassemble and assembly.

[@GBGuns]

I'm glad it helped.

[@truthseeker635]

Now if you know what can be done for the creeping and grittiness of the trigger, that would really be great. I broke it down and oiled every moving part and still the trigger is awful. I can slowly press the trigger and the creep goes in increments. It can slip and pause at the next resistance point 10 times before the trigger drops the hammer. Shame on Walther for this. The two videos I watched that convinced me to go with the CCP 380 both commented on the trigger but I never thought it was this bad. @@GBGuns

[@DBR00]

I have 3 Glocks. Just bought this last week. Shot it today for the first time. I had one failure to eject round that easily came out when I racked the slide. I didn’t know how to take down the gun to clean it. Thanks for the video. I was able to follow and clean my new CCP M2 after watching your review. Thanks!

[@jeffreyhatzenbeller7062]

Thanks. They broke down a bit different than other handguns obviously. Love the CCP 380. Great feel on the range yesterday.

[@thefleaflop]

Hi nice job,... Thanks. I just bough a new one and was very surprised there were no lands and groves inside the barrel. No sharp edges anyway, the lands seem more like slight humps. that fade into the groves Is this common to this model? I can not hit the broad side of a barn with it.... Maybe just me...

[@raiderjames85]

Just got one today shot 100 rounds through it no issues at all just the take down was a pain. Thank you for the video

[@FJJN1005]

I have the M1 CCP in 9mm. I bought it used and aside from normal wear, it runs well. And is very accurate. Couple of things, it insists on 124 grain, 115 won’t extract. Also about 50-75 rounds in, the gun gets very warm so probably not a torture test candidate. The ergonomics are great and it fits in my hand about as well as any pistol. It’s a little on the big side for just carrying 8 rounds but it has such a good feel and accuracy to it, along with little recoil (piston system does its job) I really enjoy it and like carrying it. I also bought the CCP M2 in .380. It has even less recoil, same accuracy and ergonomics as the M1 in 9mm. Field stripping can be a little bit of work on each for different reasons but I enjoy working in both. Am a big fan of this niche pistol. I know its quirkiness is not for everyone.

[@chaostravel7169]

I’m late just bought mine. This is an awesome video. I’m much more confident in pulling this apart. Thank you!!!

[@2541968joey]

My EDC is the PPK by S&W. Just a great gun at the range & to always have with you. I've looked at the CCP M2 & would consider it but my .380 PPK just looks great & does the job. Good review Thanks

[@blackbart8451]

I have the original CCP, I must admit at first the take down system used was maddening! Until I watched a fella take it down one handed! And I finally figured it out. Now it’s easy peasy! To put it back together I don’t even use the tool, just a finger depressing the back of the firing pin assembly. As far as the gun itself, I love it....only 2 things kept me from buying an M2 trigger and the horrible hard to see sights! I double tap it often because of the long trigger reset, and this sights! Uhhhggg! But when I see em that pistol is a fine shooter! I love how it feels in my hand too! Had considered using it as a carry gun replacing the sights, but my tendency to double tap it threw that out the window! Overall though I do like the gun. Maybe a sight change and trigger work done would change my mind about the carry of it.

[@ronnstone7023]

I recently purchased the CCP M2+ and I’m very satisfied with the pistol. It’s the perfect 9mm for teaching my wife, a new shooter” to move from a .22LR to 9mm. The gas operated recoil and pistol build make for a fine handling weapon.

[@RandyBTripp]

Thanks for the review. This my first gun and had no way of knowing how to take it apart to clean it.

[@salzysisters5799]

My first firearm and it suits my needs just right! My only complaint is the smaller magazine size but that's not really a big deal for what I need it for.

[@boss350z5]

My issue was never taking it apart. It was putting it back together. I would frequently get the hook caught on the striker spring. One time in particular it was so bad I literally had to put it in a vice for leverage to ger the hook to realease the coils. I had to replace the spring. Shoots great, my wife loves it; but damn if it's not the biggest pain in the ass to clean...

[@PaulKB1958]

Ever taken down and reassembled a Ruger Mark II? 😉

[@MichaelCRodriguez223]

I just bought one and am waiting for my background check to clear, day 4 thus far...I really want to shoot and feel like this is a great gun to learn with.

[@michaelw2263]

What appeals to me about this gun is that it's almost an rendition of a modern HK P7. I love the gas delayed blow-back design and fixed barrel. I do with they would have kept the paddle releases though.

[@tri3pleagent]

Sold the old one to get the new one. That take-down method is worth it.

[@bethnowikowski8215]

I'm thinking of doing the same thing.

[@sg696]

Glad everyone was so annoyed with the original gun takedown. I was able to get one brand new in the box for $166 out the door because they were clearing them out.

[@ZharkyMarky]

You got a great deal!

[@josecayente3417]

That's amazing, I paid like 400$ or something for mine. I traded 2 guns for it though so it costed 3$ and 2 guns lol.

[@bobgleason5979]

get me on too! :D

[@nathanexplosion743]

They should've done a delete on the manual safety and gone to a paddle magazine release

[@shuumai]

The thumb safety is one reason I was even looking at the CCP/M2 for concealed carry. I don't like that it's so easy to engage, but do like that it's easy to disengage. Except on the range, especially with a new shooter, the easy safety might be nice. Other than that, I was looking for easy slide racking and reasonable recoil.

[@52156drj]

I'm ok with the safety but I agree with you on the mag release. It's just one mans opinion but I much prefer the paddle to a button release.

[@roykiefer7713]

For me - one individual’s opinion only - I like the thumb safety on the CCP M2, whereas I generally dislike thumb safeties (although there are exceptions, for example when I’m carrying a 1911-A1 “cocked and locked”). The M2 will soon become my EDC and I’ll carry it IWB (principally, AIWB). When re-holstering an IWB-carried striker fired autoloader, I prefer some sort of non-trigger mounted safety as an additional precaution against a negligent discharge - and this is especially true for AIWB carriage, due to the proximity of critical body parts.

[@ryanmfoto]

Roy Kiefer agree totally

[@lphilpot01]

Apparently they made changes between the 9mm M2 and the 380 M2. We bought one for my wife and it has a mag disconnect (argh) plus you have to push the striker indicator surround down, then slide the "switch" over to release the slide. But trying to get the piston back in the hole would've been a show-stopper if we'd known before we bought. The piston hole should be chamfered and / or given "guide rails" to direct the piston into it, so the absurd process of trying to dangle the piston into place could be avoided. What a pain. In all seriousness -- My Ruger Mark II is far easier to reassemble than the CCP 380 M2. Plus the fence / rail around the mag and slide release buttons prevent them from being used by the trigger hand without breaking grip -- They're in the way. And to add insult to injury, our striker assembly failed after 19 rounds (and it took over two weeks of minimal communication -- and a miscue -- from Ft. Smith to get a replacement). Not impressed at all.

[@davidsawicki676]

Great review as usual. I like the looks of this firearm!

[@PaulinaSjoberg]

When you release the magazine, check the chamber, and at 7:09 when you dry shoot it to get rid of the safety pin, my gun can't do that. You're able to pull the trigger and it clicks, my gun won't do that. Do you know why that is? Please, I need an answer. I bought this very same gun at a gunshow and it seems this gun had been used.

[@GBGuns]

As I recall these have a magazine disconnect safety which means you need the magazine in the gun to pull the trigger. It doesn't have to be seated, but in most of the way.

[@FtanmoOfEtheirys]

I think I may finally pick one up to replace my ppk. This really is feeling like a modern take on a ppk.

[@ArmedNDangerous]

I’ve never fired a Walther before or even handled one, but just off appearance, I’m impressed

[@ctutela895]

Love your reassembly

[@rockinsteady406]

Fantastic review. Love the channel!

[@amirharris6676]

If the first one I had disassembled the way it does. I would have kept mine. It was an excellent firearm. I might have to pickup the new one. Great review

[@reddawn2001]

the disassembly was the only reason i passed on the CCP. i am very happy they modified it so i won't need a tool for takedown. this might actually get me into it. awesome vid. now if walther would announce their re-release of the PP, PPK, and PPK/s that would make me happy

[@GBGuns]

I can not confirm or deny

[@TheNoteBuyer]

Thank you for such a thorough review. This was extremely helpful.

[@brian.louis107]

Wish they made it in double stack higher capacity.

[@Sheppard2030]

The tool free take down is a very welcome update but what I was really hoping for is increased magazine capacity. I don’t see a need for me to upgrade.

[@j_thom]

Agreed with the magazine capacity, I think without those inner ribs in the grip, this pistol could have a staggered magazine that will bring the capacity up to 12 rounds, easy. I mean, those are pretty deep ribs, they could be thicker yet shallower methinks, if they are even wholly necessary at all, which I suspect only Walther knows at the moment.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+J Thom Exactly. I have been redesigning this pistol in my head for years, and when I heard about the M2, I had wild flights of fancy thinking my dreams had been realized. Then I remembered that the CCP is manufactured by Umarex, not Ulm Walther. The capacity fix should have been trivial, and now with the P365 on the market, there's no excuse to sell any subcompact with less than 10 round capacity.

[@ginafurannetonic3048]

Great take down review. I have been wanting one of these since I tried one out in 2019 at my gun range, but it is now 2021, 2 years later and I still can’t find one (9mm version). 😥 I did find a .380 acp version and almost bought it, but between how hard getting good ammo for it and the reduced stopping power compared to the 9mm it was not worth getting.

[@jrswaney01]

I have the original CCP(M1?) and love it. Nice little shooter. I was ok with the tool takedown, but I am glad to see a toolless takedown version. I will be purchasing the M2 also.

[@zenjon7892]

So, I am going to make a conjecture here: I believe this firearm is more suspectable to failure when it is not cleaned than the traditional Browning tiliting bolt style. The gas-delayed blow back system is rare and I think it's for this reason; it doesn't do well with neglect

[@Misskitty15]

Is that little spring that you push back in last...I noticed you had it pushed down. I thought it was supposed to be flush with the round piece that goes back in at the back to finish the closure. Or maybe it doesn't matter about the spring, just long as it's back in? I had some issues after taking apart & cleaning. Did it 3x & sometimes it was fine & other times the slide would not go all the way back and would not cock. Anyone else experience this?

[@Kentucky_Blue]

Nice review. Good video and sound quality.

[@michaelhogan9053]

Love the Walther quality, but.... Would be nice with extended finger mag + 1 rnd. Also, a lot of travel with the trigger, large trigger well is great for gloves. One HUGE ramp for feeding... going to watch your other video to see how different ammo shoot. Thanks for the break down.

[@j_thom]

Bravo Walther. Ya just made this wonderfully accurate and ergonomic pistola viable again! I'm not one for trading or selling any firearms, but in this case it's just logical for me to trade in my old and get the new. The takedown was the bane of this pistols existence, even tho it was not the most terrible task one has to do in life, this improvement goes to demonstrate that it was unnecessary. One thing I have really liked about this pistol is how open it's innards are and how utterly thorough it can be cleaned. The new one takes that up a notch with the easy as pie ability to remove the striker. My cleaning regiment for mine (while acknowledging that this pistol runs just fine and dandy when it's a dirty gurl) is to use gun scrubber to the slide area. Simple seconds to remove absolutely all powder and gunk to pristine condition, then coat it all with a thin sheen of balistol (or other cleaner/lubricant). I'm continuously impressed how It's so easily quickly and thoroughly cleaned.

[@zuriwagner5566]

Looks like one hell of a steep feed ramp

[@shuumai]

Nice demonstration of the slide release. The way another person showed it, I thought the original version might be better!

[@pylevlogs1252]

I really like the magazine ejecter

[@lisademing4784]

The 9mm walther ccp m2 has a different case but the take down is the same... The walther ccp magazines fit the ccp m2 but do not have the plastic guide pieces on the bottom of the magazine. Also they ccp m2 magazines have a f and the regular ccp magazines have an e. Have you shot an old mag put of the ccp m2?

[@TroyB97]

Good review. The original CCP is my EDC. Good reliable firearm in my experience so far with a little over 800 rounds through it. The ergonomics are superb, especially for a pistol that size. I personally don't mind the take down for the original after doing a few times, and the trigger travel isn't a big deal to me since it's a carry gun. Hopefully it markets better for walther now with the more simple take down. My only real gripe about the pistol is the sights are absolute garbage. The dots are hardly visible even in bright light conditions, walther could've easily updated the sights on the new model.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Great point about the sights. At least Ameriglo or Truglo makes aftermarket sights for it now. Did you get the recall work done on yours? Another option is to drill out the dots and insert tritium vials yourself. You can get them from www.mixglo.com

[@TroyB97]

Yeah, I ended up getting truglo tritium sights on it and it's a hundred times better.

[@TroyB97]

And I bought my CCP after the recall so the gun I have was made after they fixed the safety recall

[@michaelradigan5429]

I own this M2 380 & really like It. My problem is no info on lubrication...

[@GBGuns]

Where metal rubs metal apply a little lube.

[@dtuck3407]

Looking forward to the shooting video! It would be nice if someone had a fast enough camera to see if the delay can be captured, but that probably would take one of those outrageous slow motion cameras.

[@GBGuns]

Yup. Maybe one of the big-money channels will do it. I cant afford it

[@ArmedNDangerous]

I thought about purchasing this pistol as my next firearm but I think I made my mind up with the Ruger SR9C... I want to shoot this next time I go to the range

[@jamespt2005]

Awesome review. I just got the CCP M2 two weeks ago. I’m new to guys so this is my first gun. Could you possibly do a video on how to clean the gun

[@GBGuns]

Pretty much all guns clean the same. Clean where the carbon builds up, make sure there's a light coating of lubrication where you see wear.

[@jamespt2005]

Great thanks

[@paulhoffman4236]

That tube you have to line up is harder than you showed it to be. Also the trigger traces is really excessive. Like ur video's

[@thomasjohnson6808]

"I’m new to guys..." I am sticking with women.

[@gaspeople]

I'm discouraged by the trigger. It looks mushy, and the travel distance is long. It's not the trigger that made Walther famous, which admittedly is very light (maybe too light) for EDC.

[@captschark]

A redesigned take down on an Arnsburg pistol.... not what I was hoping for and not terribly exciting. An updated P99 would have made my day..

[@j_thom]

One of my biggest fears is that if they 'update' the P99, they will give it a 'murican mag release. . . Tho design-wise it might could use a little freshening up.

[@captschark]

I think a P99 with the PPQ style grips would make for an excellent pistol and I would prefer they leave the paddle mag release on it as well.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+CaptSchark Aren't the internals in the PPQ and P99 interchangeable? I vaguely remember someone using their PPQ as a frame for their P99 internals. Not a cheap option, but doable. Edit: You can put the P99 slide on the PPQ frame, but the result is single action only. No restrike capability, which kind of defeats the point I guess.

[@captschark]

I'm not sure why anyone would want to try to do that other than to see if it was possible.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

I suppose if you had both you could get the best of both.

[@ZharkyMarky]

Very thorough, thank you. New shooter question, does the striker need to be removed when doing a break down cleaning? BTW, we have recently purchased this gun and have shot 250 rounds through it so far. I am not sure how I feel about those tiny sights and the space between them. On one hand it seems more difficult to line up dead center but on the other hand, it does seem to allow the target to be seen better. Anyway, we are definitely happy with our purchase and enjoy shooting this gun.

[@GBGuns]

For regular use there's no need to remove the striker

[@gregorieschmitt5578]

Question - When I took it to the range - I had only one time when I finished a mag where after the last round - the slide locked. The 2 other mags I shot - when the last round fires it reset as if I was able to fire again - anyone have this issue?

[@CutandShoot5x5]

Loved this review! I had the first generation & sold it because of the ridiculous takedown but other than that it was a Walther!

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

It's kind of an Umarex. Hence the weird takedown in the first place. I doubt Ulm would ever have designed such a gun.

[@kylesgarden8725]

thank you! wondering why any dislikes ?

[@GBGuns]

The internet is full of haters.

[@MRPB54]

This in a double stack model 10 or 12 rounds yep it would be a quick buy from me

[@mp95b20]

As usual a great review. But I think I'll stick with my PPS Classic.. Thanks

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

I still have mine. Great pistol. I'll never sell it.

[@boss350z5]

The piston needs to be removed to change the front sight... That's why a roll pin is used there. I have an M1 and figured that out when i put XS Big dot sights on it.

[@GBGuns]

Thanks for that information!

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

That's good to know there are some more aftermarket sights for this. I think Ameriglo and Truglo make sights also.

[@boss350z5]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 yup, the sure do. first sight change i ever did on it were truglos.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+BOSS 350z Sweet. Thanks for the reply.

[@boss350z5]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 no problem. just fyi, generally speaking, most of the pps sights will fit the CCP. most just don't have the rear adjustment screw in them like the stock CCP rear sights do.

[@alleandoss4042]

I'm disassembling my new ccp to clean. I can't slide the release sideways

[@357souls]

Been waiting for this vid!

[@viscabarcaa1]

Good review, good audio and camera work. Have you tested the 9mm to .380 recoil?

[@GBGuns]

Yes

[@skittlelaugh]

Great review!

[@terrysmith9005]

Had the version M1, loved the gun but hated the take down and trigger pull. The new take down is WORLD'S better! Was well worth the upgrade to the M2. Trigger pull is slightly better than the original M1 which was very scratchy. Could still be improved but is overall better.

[@computerexpress3495]

I own the original and love it so much. paid $399. wish I was there for the $166 deal.

[@davidgrider4302]

Great review.

[@GBGuns]

Thanks

[@ericjdevops]

Hi, great video as always. Is the the disassembly "slider" made of plastic?

[@ctutela895]

Loved it ! But you're right, hard to get a precise shot

[@bobgleason5979]

I absolutely love mine... I wouldn't change a thing. since this is made for defense so to me, trigger is not an issue .

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Apparently this gun likes 124 grain and heavier ammo more than 115, which can cause misfeeds.

[@GBGuns]

Did you watch the shooting impressions video?

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

If I have, I guess I forgot about it. Edit: I remember now, you were getting some really odd results where some light ones worked and some didn't. I guess the takehome message is that you have to experiment with different stuff.

[@rcrites]

Mine shoots 115 with no problems. If you use anything but brass, it will not work worth a damn in any weight bullet.

[@jackoconnor9090]

I want one

[@jad3415]

$500 at Palmetto State Armory right now. Chambered in 380. Just bought one for my mom.

[@donnadonna9907]

Looks better than the old one. When you do the what's for dinner testing. Do you ever limp wrist on purpose to see which ones will still fire. If you're hurt or down you may have to limp wrist. Just curious thanks Rich

[@GBGuns]

Good point. We may need to integrate that. Maybe a fourth shot to deliberately limp wrist, but how limp is the challenge. Hardly any fun would run if I just let it flop

[@donnadonna9907]

Graham Baates I get limp every day and let it flop. ( Lol ) Rich

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+Graham Bates I second the limp wristing test. Those seem very helpful data points. I like how FirearmGuy Dan does it. Kind of pinches it between his trigger finger and thumb.

[@PaulKB1958]

Not terrible to disassemble and reassemble but bizarre compared to how easy my M&Ps operate and come apart.

[@henrydenry9508]

Mine only resets when there is an empty magazine in it

[@bobwampler3387]

Looks like a winner.

[@Clymer1776]

Let's see how it runs after a few hundred rounds.

[@MsBess100]

Forgive me if I missed it in the video, but how quickly does it heat up in a practice session?

[@rcrites]

After just a few mags.

[@MsBess100]

@@rcrites thanks for the reply. I think I'll go with a different pistol then.

[@rcrites]

I got rid of mine due to 2 things. I wasnt able to take it to the range and put a couple hundred rounds through it because it would be way too hot too quickly to enjoy shooting it. The other reason is since it has a gas piston, if you use aluminum or steel cased ammo, you will have cycling issues. That's the second fun I've owned that I absolutely loved but had to chuck out. Sucks.

[@MsBess100]

@@rcrites yep, I've loved how it settled into the hand but the lack of range time would be a bummer. I think I'll go with a glock 43x or 48

[@mikee7241]

Do you know if we can use the same mags from the first generation?

[@GBGuns]

I believe so. Check with Walther

[@elsullo2]

I see that there is no de-cock function, so I wonder: is it partially cocked when racked, like a Glock, to fire double action only? Or is it fully cocked when racked, like a Taurus PT111G2, to fire single action? In other words, is use of the manual safety mandatory for safe carry, since there is not even a trigger safety? And, did I spy polygonal rifling? Thanks!...………………………..elsullo

[@GBGuns]

It is single action

[@TVisTheRetina]

Oh my hands, they're so big!

[@autumnfragrance7185]

PPQ-SC comparison?

[@ClearBrookExotics]

The first gen seems easier to put back together. And I can take it apart with a ball point pen.

[@jackinyoubaby]

Probably my most accurate and ergonomic pistol in my collection unfortunately it malfunctions constantly. Stovepipes or FTF. 😭😢

[@GBGuns]

Is that with all ammo or just specific types?

[@commodorerook3797]

As much as I hate the M1, I absolutely love the M2! Night and day!

[@CaveWyatt]

I don’t know. The bizarre takedown, plastic trigger and blowback operation all seem to reinforce the rumor that the pistol was designed, and perhaps built, by GSG. I might give the PPS a try but I think I’ll stay away from this one. “It’s not you, it’s me.” This would be a good one to have Maddy co-test drive.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+Jake Lonergan I'm pretty sure that this was an Umarex designed pistol. It certainly is manufactured by them at their Arnsberg plant. You can tell from the proof marks. The shield is Umarex/Arnsberg, the antlers is Ulm/Walther.

[@dubcheeseburger]

thanks for the video

[@khalilabukabeer815]

Beautiful pistol, every thing looks fantastic, except for the sound of the slide, it sounds like a zipper 😂😂😂

[@odderotter8950]

That sound means metal that isn't smooth.

[@rcrites]

@@odderotter8950 it's the spring moving on the barrel Einstein. Quit talking.

[@odderotter8950]

weeeeeeeeeee figure out how stop me 😒 stupid ! You seem to think you know everything else ! And that is NOT the spring irregardless of what you think . I am sorry I didn't mean to use words to long for you to understand 😁

[@odderotter8950]

Look inside the slide at the rough machined metal and you will see why it sounds like a zipper !

[@rcrites]

@@odderotter8950 all blowback pistols sound like that jackass. Cry more.

[@edpenilla7566]

How much

[@GBGuns]

It's not for sale. We don't sell anything, we review and report.

[@sweetcostarica]

The External Manual Safety Dislike the external manual safety for new & experienced shooters. New shooters, before they pick up any gun should learn the gun safety rules & live by then. If that happens no manual safety is needed and that safety will not get you killed if it is on & you need to shoot fast OR you think you have your Glock/SIG today & try to shoot and you can't. Think about it.

[@lorddiablo8575]

The grip of this CCP M2 looks very much similar as the P22 .... Unfortunately, the re-assemble is kinda " Pain in the Butt " !

[@djnfungun3588]

That gun need to be sent in for recall it don’t seem to have the dot

[@marknorwood7521]

I would Seriously Consider the 2nd Gen CCP if not for the capacity.

[@CharlesHuse]

I'll stick with my PPX and Beretta M9. Reassembly on the CCP M2 looks to be about as big of a pain in the ass as a Kel-tec PF9.

[@TacoTeaser]

I love the gun, hate to clean it. It’s like some kind of fidgety puzzle game. My reassembly record time is 35 seconds. My Glock? 5 seconds!

[@GBGuns]

Does it really matter?

[@matt_neil_music]

They are pretty dang expensive - I love Walther, but the price for this CCP M2 is pretty steep.

[@matt_neil_music]

I will be getting one though. :)

[@thefleaflop]

The weapon in this video is a 9mm... I don't think you mentioned that. The reason I know this is I have the exact same pistol chambered in 380.. If this one was a 380, you would not be able to pull the trigger with the mag out. Only the 380 has the mag removed safe.... Why does Walter not care about the safety of 9mm shooters.?

[@GBGuns]

I believe they changed that. Magazine "safeties" are a potential hazard in defensive situations, especially in a single-stsck gun

[@thefleaflop]

@@GBGuns Hi,... That is interesting. How would single stack be more or less dangerous in that situation???

[@thefleaflop]

Not sure they changed that.... My pistol is brand new, and I spoke to Walther about it on friday.... Were unable to tell me why just on 380 versions, just that its a real thing!

[@GBGuns]

@@thefleaflop This is all theoretical keyboard warrior, but in theory you're MORE likely to want to top off a single stack than a doublestack. Should you need to take a shot suddenly while the mag is out the round in the chamber is useless. Having been in combat myself I doubt such a situation is likely as one tends to shoot until empty and then reload, and reload only in the safety of cover.

[@thefleaflop]

@@GBGuns Ha!!!,... I supposed I asked for that didn't i?

[@Broken_Arrow58]

Field strip is marginally improved but I still wouldn't touch this.

[@GBGuns]

Why not?

[@Broken_Arrow58]

@@GBGuns Although fixed barrels (simple blowback recoil systems) have their advantages, I'm accustomed to Glocks and S&W M&Ps (locking breech design - tilting barrel) and teardowns like this seem burdensome.

[@GBGuns]

@@Broken_Arrow58 Fair enough, we all have our reasons.

[@triggerman1092]

No thanks. But another awesome, detailed review

[@oceanhome2023]

Sorry but no way would I want a LEARNING GUN as you say because I would want a REAL GUN