Walther "New" PPQ M2 "Full Review" by Airgun Detectives

[@GhostofCTC]

It’s really good to see a pistol that shoots pellets and is blow back and has adjustable sights. That’s rare. Also if Umarex put this magazine system into all their pistols from now on it will be a huge improvement. Great review as always JC 👍

[@AirgunDetectives]

Thanks for watching and I appreciate you leaving comments 👍

[@claudhenrysmoot7957]

The PPQ platform is simply wonderful. Very excited to see a pellet version of this pistol as well. Thank you, JC!

[@AirgunDetectives]

Yes...it's always nice to see a rifled barrel and a pellet shooter. Thanks for tuning in👍

[@nlmeireles5109]

Hi JC, I like this model, its exterior design is very similar to that of the WALTHER PPQ real . Nice to see a rifled barrel and a pellet shooter, trigger having to do two functions really affects a bit. good tip, that of using a little silicone oil. I believe that with use it will get lighter. Excellent review and weekend. Cheers

[@reevessairgunningreviews5572]

Umarex do recommend light oiling of the belt. I did have a issue with my slide blowing off, but solved that by fitting an modified spring, and notified Umarex about the problem. Mine was an early pistol, so hopefully you won’t have any problems. Use quality pellets that fit the belt snuggly or they can fall rearwards, jamming and splitting the belt. Very accurate pistol and very enjoyable.

[@davidsalsberry5748]

Love this gun, I’ve bin wanting it ever since I first seen it but I’ve seen some reviews that have mention the gritty trigger and the fact that the belt stretches or cracks leading to lots of jams. I ended up getting the sig 1911 emperor scorpion instead and absolutely love everything about it

[@sap3055]

Just got my one and her in Norway they are sold in a nice cardboard box I haven't had any issues with it so far and it has become my favourite co2 pistol absolutely love your videos keep them coming

[@timshelley8635]

Awesome! They are listening to us! Thanks for a great video JC!

[@richardgonzales4815]

NICE!!! I’m buying this one!

[@AirgunDetectives]

Thanks for watching!👍

[@georgeloveless4176]

Wow this has some nice velocity. I actually have this same gun in 43cal from the T4E platform and I love it. I shoots whatever different 43cal projectiles you got. I also managed to find 43cal pepperballs for it, so it can double as a pepperball gun. They sell a quick peircing magazine for it, which I'm waiting to get now. Once again, you've done a great job. Thanks again.

[@AirgunDetectives]

George, thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments👍

[@brorjordas1979]

Hellyeah! The T4E PPQ is just awesome.

[@dirtditty]

Where did you find the .43 pepper balls I have been looking? Can’t find them anywhere.

[@kevinbashnick]

@@dirtditty Amazon buddy.. Amazon

[@BoggWeasel]

I finally caved and got one. I've never owned a straight-out BB gun or repeater and my main reason for getting it was that it shoots pellets as I have and inherent distrust of BBs and the ricochet possibilities, classic "You'll shoot your eye kid ". syndrome. The build is excellent, feels good in the hands and is great fun to shoot, suits my indoor 5-meter indoors range . It's as accurate as it needs to be for a plinker, I have a couple of very accurate single shot target style pistols so that niche is filled already and it's def more for the difference and enjoying something fresh that adds to my pistol shooting. Thanks for the detailed and informed review, it really helped a lot in making my decision..👍👍👍👍👍 02/23/24: Update and heads up. The belt in my mag broke today and bad news is, although Umarex has a PPQ M2 mag refurbish kit, it's only available in Europe and there are no repair kits or replacement belts available here in the US, upshot is, be prepared to have a backup mag or two on hand so your PPQ doesn't become just a fancy looking paper weight.

[@joseglenn20]

Hey JC. I just got hte PPQ M2 i've solved the Rough Trigger Problem and now it's Butter Smooth here's how to fix it but it's a somewhat messy process but it's well worth it 1. takeout the mag. 2. with the Pistol Upside down and Behind the Trigger add 8 to 10 drops of 3-n-1 or and light oil 3. with the gun still inverted and wraped in cloth move around side to side so the oil can get to all of the Moving Parts. 4.wipe off any excess oil and start dry firing it around 70/125 pulls you will have a smoother Trigger . i've also lost 2 lbs. of Trigger pull yours may vary.?? I hope this Helps.

[@AirgunDetectives]

Jose, good job! I did the same thing with the silicone spray. I have an extra magazine and the belt stretched out on me. That one maintains a heavy trigger pull, but my other magazine is smooth and light. Happy Shooting!

[@joseglenn20]

@@AirgunDetectives Sorry late geting back Hmmmmm? belt stretching out i'll work on that as soon as I get another mag.

[@davidwolsky4783]

For dry fire practice, remove the gear sprocket at the top of the mag/belt. Transforms the gun to a nice, smooth trigger. Mag has two #1 size Phillips screws top and bottom. I store the sprocket in my pellet case. When you want to shoot pellets just put the sprocket back in. It takes less than a minute.

[@dougdarby3564]

One thing I noticed is the reviewer never mentioned the real PPQ and how the pellet pistol relates to it After watching the video I want this pistol I own two Walther PPQs A PPQ M1 9mm and a PPQ SD .22lr They are both outstanding I feel the Umarex PPQ pellet pistol will be a good addition and be lots of fun in my back yard

[@joseglenn4435]

Been waiting for this Review i'm sold Ordering mine right now.

[@antonioortiz2542]

Excellent review “5 Stars”

[@AirgunDetectives]

Thanks for tuning in!👍

[@heithwatkins]

Excellent review 🎯👍

[@AirgunDetectives]

Heith...thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments 👍

[@joseglenn20]

OMG. new mod. on the Mag itself there are 2 screws in the front plate that holds the belt in if you just loosen them just enough it takes pressure off the belt and you lose another Lb. of Trigger pull. mine has almost a 3 lb. pull no and Accury has Improved . be sure to relube your belt.

[@maxkinck1013]

I’m new to this and you make some of the best reviews I’ve seen so far. keep your channel going ! Is there a video about the differences, pros and cons about pellets vs bbs on your channel ?

[@PeterAgostiniJdcap26]

Got one ☝️ and it is accurate! Thanks JC just pulled a trigger on a Gerber duel force!

[@AirgunDetectives]

Peter, glad yours is a good shooter! Have a great weekend 👍

[@PeterAgostiniJdcap26]

@@AirgunDetectives I just bought a peep sight for my Crosman 1322 from out of Texas I hope that will help . I was hitting low left aiming at the bullseye 🎯 this morning with the stock one . If that doesn’t help I bull a red dot from buck rail on it .

[@georgegandara6054]

Hi JC, nice gun ,looks tough ,shoots nice groups, sights okay, velocity is enough for a pistol, I like it a lot, I have the pellet Dan Wesson Valor 1911 pistol witout the belt but witth a clockwise mag including the co2 canister, great review as always, remain tuned for the next episode, regards

[@dougcain2720]

JC - You are a darn good shot !!

[@Gary-lj7pi]

Pretty cool . I like it .. Thanks JC

[@garyweisbrodt4440]

My first CO2 cylinder didn't even give me 40 shots. Really hoping this improves. For reference I'm shooting indoors and it's 80 above in here. As to the accuracy my best so far is 1.2 inches. My vigilante shoots .7 inch groups.

[@koethcpa]

May I ask where you got the trap you use in your yard? It looks like maybe you custom made it, but if it's available for purchase somewhere, I would love to check it out. All of the trap boxes I have seen online are so small and most are for lead pellets only. I need one that will work for steel bbs too. Thanks and thank you for these videos - I really enjoy them! I'm getting the Colt Commander based on your review.

[@AirgunDetectives]

Hi Ray, I custom built the "Shooting Cart" about 8 years ago. If you email me I can send you some photos if you want to duplicate it. Happy Shooting! [e-mail]

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

Sadly this is exactly the type of airgun Bill c-21 is trying to ban in canada...I wanted to get a nice blowback eventually but the fun budget is low so I might never be able to get one! [Canadian folks, say no to bill-c21] Nice review still! Arround 8:45 it seemed like the blowback had a couple issues ?!

[@brorjordas1979]

Been wanting one of these ever since I got to know one is getting manufactured.. Damn! That's a long time ago...and I still haven't gotten myself to buy one.🤣 Surely gotten to know a couple of issues with it - but nothing you probably couldn't fix..

[@AirgunDetectives]

Actually it is a fun pellet shooter and is pretty accurate.👍😉

[@peterconant5249]

Hello,JC! I love your show and you're by far the best reviewer. Concise, thorough, and fun. I purchased a Walther PPQ M2. One of the most important things to me is the slide locking open after the mag is empty. I have realized that most pellet pistols, using a belt or chain, don't do that. Big Bummer! Most review videos don't get into that aspect of the gun. Please, do me and everybody else a favor and add that to your list of review items. Keep up the great work! PC

[@peterconant5249]

The gun arrived. It was in plastic clam shell container. All the videos a saw showed an Impressive black box. I have shot about 600 rounds, and it’s out of commission with a seriously jammed pellet. Not too impressed, not very accurate, trigger feels really rough. It has improved over time, but not as good as I expected. It’s worth about $60.00

[@peterconant5249]

Just watched your review of the M 2 for the fifteenth time, finally noticed that you did recognize the fact it is delivered in a clam shell package and it doesn’t hold open upon the final shot. My bad! Unfortunately, my magazine is back In the manufactures’ hands with a broken pellet chain, after five days. Wish it could shoot when you hit the reset Wall when shooting in succession. You need to fully release trigger between shots. It is what it is. Thanks for the great videos, I really like the opening “memes” . Helps me remember if I watched that gun review before.

[@pearlglass8915]

I own one and loved it until I broke 3 magazine belts during the first use of each one. Spoke to a few people and they all had the same problem. Manufacturing problem without a doubt, with an obvious design flaw.

[@lenny0272]

Sweet

[@paulynotshore7006]

Very nice video i feel like buying one...

[@dougdarby3564]

One thing I noticed was the rear sight looked to be way right of center at the end ot the video

[@Jason-fv5my]

Hey I loved the video, do you personally think this would be a decent concealed carry for extreme last resorts? I’m not old enough to own a real firearm but plan to once I am old enough, just wondering if this would be enough to stop a charging unarmed assailant?

[@DRT-81]

once the co2 is pierced what is the hold time ? does it leak out in 24 hours ?

[@avp.69]

Another great video of yours! I'm actually watching yours and AA review channel for deciding on my first CO2 pistol purchase, thanks for all the effort you put in your videos for us folks! Could you tell me if this pistol would fit something like the gamo lethals or the crosman fastflights? I realise most pistols can't since the clip isn't big enough to accomodate those longer pellets, infact is there any pistol that can?

[@AirgunDetectives]

Actually, this one likes the RWS Basic 7.0 gr wadcutters. Have you thought about the Dan Wesson 715 Pellet Revolver? Watch my review on those...👍🏻

[@avp.69]

@@AirgunDetectives That review is my absolute favourite. Infact that was one of the first one on your channel that I watched. All 3 barrel lengths on one table, cleared every single query that I had I am gonna get the DW afterall, seems like it's the best option if you want to shoot speciality pellets

[@briancollins1078]

Great review, I purchased PPQ a few months ago very happy with the gun. would you know where you can get a replacement belt for the magazine mine starting to ware. can you review the Daystate alpha wolf Thanks JC😊

[@garyweisbrodt4440]

I like the look and feel of the gun however the trigger is extremely heavy and it doesn't always shoot. After 20 shots I believe I pulled the trigger 30 times and my finger pad is raw. I note that when loading the pallets into the belt the belt was fairly stiff the turn.

[@TZAG]

Hello there, I came across with your channel few days ago and I find it very informative. So based on your knowledge (without knowing if you ever had a chance to use it though) I'd like your opinion on whether the M2 is worth replacing my good old Anics Skif A-3000? Could we actually compare A3000 with PPQ M2? A3000 has 28 mag while M2 has 21. A3000 can use pellets or bbs (with some good loading attention) but I don't know if M2 can also use bbs... Sights are adjustable vertical and horizontal for A3000 but only horizontal for M2. I love the way Umarex combined both pellet and CO2 cartridge in one magazine and the loading system of "chain" mag seems to be almost identical with the pellet loading system of old A3000. However, the A3000 needs a tool to move the magazine to fully load it, the M2 just needs a thumb. The CO2 system of A3000 is inside the gun but in M2 is on the magazine. So what do you think is better? Does M2's need more attention on cleaning from dust? PPQ M2 after some use it's said the blowback slide release lever gets a bit loose and it may jam the gun if your thumb is too close to it. Is that true? And the recoil spring does it really fail? Did you ever come up with some issues? One final question. A3000 has a transparent, cassette like, magazine which has just a small window to move the black belt with the proper tool. But there is no information on its manual on how to make it move smoother or to lubricate it. So is it t OK to spray with silicon oil?

[@garyweisbrodt4440]

I know from watching a lot of your shows that you're a 1911 buff. I can only own one, question which one do you think that should be?

[@robertlisternicholls]

Will it take pointed pellets?

[@antonioortiz2542]

Will it be possible to do a review on the gamo swarm magnum.177?

[@gmanneod8085]

Great review as always JC. Excellent airgun pistol and new style of magazine. Any way to lighten the trigger? It looks like this is going to be the New Glock 17 Gen 5 pellet pistol too. I'm on the waiting list for the New Glock. When you talk to your Contact at Umarex, please ask about the New Browning Buck Mark Magnum break barrel pistols .177/.22 availability. Looks like a good one for use northern guys. Hope all is good with you and your family!

[@AirgunDetectives]

This is the same foundation as the New Glock. The trigger depends on the magazine. I have two mags for this. One has a tight belt and it provides a smooth lighter trigger. The other has a loser belt and has more of a binding feel. The trigger is much with that mag.

[@AirgunDetectives]

Umarex has some great stuff being released in Europe. Did you see the M29 models in the pellet versions? They also have a stainless 5" Smith coming out in a pellet version.

[@gmanneod8085]

@@AirgunDetectives Thanks for the heads up. The M29 pellet looks sweet. So does the 629 stainless. Reminds me of the Ruger I was issued. Also get in touch with Gamo and have them ship you a Coyote Whisper to review. Sweet old school rifle on sale for $250 under normal MSRP $797. Now $550. I love mine. Basically a Discounted BSA.

[@chrisreilly4006]

Hey JC, do you still have those Gamo Urban trigger screws? If so can you send me a link please? All you do is unscrew one and screw yours in?

[@AirgunDetectives]

Here you go..airgundetectives.com/product/adjustment-screw-for-the-gamo-c-a-t-and-s-a-t-triggers-2/

[@Desperado3248]

They should modify this to a carbine which should see velocity rise to over 500 fps

[@ayorica4943]

Where can I get this gun?

[@Kenny-Li]

After watching the video, I purchased a WALTHER PPQ M2 Pellet Airsoft gun . Upon using it, I found that the trigger is heavy with a long travel distance, requiring a lot of force to activate the CO2. This results in shaky hands and inaccurate shooting. After shooting a few pellets, my finger feels too weak to continue pulling the trigger. I have tried using gun-specific lubricant on all parts, including the components in the magazine, but to no avail. This has completely taken away my enjoyment of shooting and I am disappointed that I spent CAD232 on it.

[@Badman903]

You probably just need to work your arms out tbh. I can aim and shoot in rapid succession with not problem even one handed. These new air guns are pretty true to form replicas to their real counterparts so don’t expect these things to feel like toys

[@cyrusshellard3905]

Needs a recessed barrel, don't like it from the front at all

[@AirgunDetectives]

You recess the barrel, then you lose velocity. In these short barreled guns I would rather have the velocity. Cyrus, have a great weekend 👍

[@cyrusshellard3905]

@@AirgunDetectives Not enough to matter, I'd take the replica looks any day over a few fps.

[@cyrusshellard3905]

Recess it back 15mm and what you really going to lose velocity wise? 10 - 20 fps

[@themaskedairgunner4321]

Isn't that the gun that 007 uses

[@cyrusshellard3905]

Prefer the Sig M17

[@AirgunDetectives]

Have you shot this one yet? It shoots a higher velocity and was a bit more accurate than my M17. But I don't think it should be a choice between the two, but rather add another to your collection 😉👍

[@cyrusshellard3905]

@@AirgunDetectives No I haven't JC but I don't really think it's 1 that stands out for me personally and can't justify spending money on that when I've got so many more on my 'to get list' 😄 I compared it to the M17 due to it bein belt fed 20round pellet with blowback but gotta say I way prefer everything cosmetically about the Sig. And that M2 so needs the recessed barrel. I do actually really like my 30 round pellet P320. Take it easy brother. Cyrus.

[@brorjordas1979]

Oh man. Yeah. The M17 is damn sweet. Mine shoots really accurate with the regular Crosman Match pellets. Just tight spot on at 20ft.

[@brorjordas1979]

Finally got everybody else home (and probably at sleep already) - so I'd get to watch this review in own peace..😁 I just love the design n build of this one. Still do not own one - but definitely need to get one. The mag looks technically very well built. I'd probably though take the belt out and let it soak in a silicone oil bath over night trying to keep it all good n smooth. UX btw oughta sell a belt exchange kit also - or at least according to the umarex de. home website. The slide spring might get a bit soft on this over time I think - but I guess one can find a better replacement if needed. Love that this Walther also got the windage adjustment rear sight. The blowback oughta be good. Or at least by thinking of the short blowback design and the valve system this magazine got. In this video it at least seemed as if the camera would not at all have picked up the slide action at the velocity test. Looked like as if an nbb woulda been tested.. Nitpicking... 20rds? Not 21rd belt?🤔😁