Walther PPKs on the Range: Comparing the .32 to the .380

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Today I'm out at the range with three examples of Walther PPK pistols - one in .22 rimfire, one in .32 ACP, and one in .380 ACP. While the .22 is along for the comparison, I am mostly curious about how the .32 and .380 will compare to each other in practical shooting. The .32 will have less recoil, and holds 7 rounds in the magazine. The .380 fires a larger projectile, but produces more recoil and holds only 6 rounds.
I was a bit surprised to find that both are quite nice to shoot, the .380 especially - I had expected it to be a bit uncomfortable because of the small size of the PPK...
Thanks to Legacy Collectibles for the loan of these three Walthers! You can check out their KZbin channel here:
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[@kebabsvein1]

Ian once again looks like he smuggles Iguanas from south america :D

[@MongooseTacticool]

@uncletigger Excellent :)

[@ScottKenny1978]

@uncletigger you should be, that's excellent!

[@619TheLineman]

its not the iguanas he is smuggling, its the wheelbarrows he is using to carry them that are being smuggled

[@Silver_o]

@@619TheLineman the handles on the wheelbarrow definitely don't return to the US empty.

[@hunter35474]

@@619TheLineman Yeah because there's already iguanas in South America. That's kinda where they live.

[@IceWolfLoki]

Missed a great opportunity to put on a Tuxedo T-shirt and do a James Bond Impression.

[@stevenbobbybills]

Which he has amusingly done before whilst at competition with a HK P7.

[@gearshiv]

While I kinda agree, it's currently hot as Satan's arm pit in AZ and a suit would have likely lead to gun Jesus having heat stroke induced visions.

[@michaelrey2002]

Gun Jesus would've turned from Heckler and Koch to Japanese WW2 Firearms if he really did that.

[@lhmmhl1]

Or a different type of uniform... from round 1942 or so

[@Michaelmackdonald]

Too hot

[@JSTRonline2]

"If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8.32 caliber slugs into it, it's probably a dragon." -Archer

[@elektro3000]

Archer never heard of Skokie, IL Police Sergeant Timothy Gramins.

[@DarkSpar13]

Where's that quote about the Five-seveN? "If it isn't dead in 20 rounds you probably shouldn't be shooting at it"

[@MegaBIGJOE64]

or the TERMINATOR ...lolz

[@Silver_o]

Lol Cooked up Meth head joined the group chat.

[@khartog01]

This has stopping power. See, he was putting on his pants and I stopped him.

[@DirkdeJager73]

But to name the elephant in the room: Do we get a history lesson on the Walther PPK as well? Ian dressed in a tux for that would be a bonus ;-) .

[@colbunkmust]

He's already done at least one other video, a much more extensive one going over the various WW2 variations of the PP and PPK

[@sbgroen]

I'm having a Rex from Napolean Dynamite moment: Nobody messes with Ian when he's wearin' those bad boys.

[@98erics]

His ear pro does match his shirt, Gun Jesus has style!

[@elonquemattheson6151]

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[@deadflowers7017]

@@elonquemattheson6151 Nice, thanks!

[@ditzydoo4378]

Ian has discovered what I found out when I purchased an retired Berlin, West German state police (Polizei) PP in .32 ACP (7.65mm Browning) thru the American Rod & Gun Club in Heidelberg for $175 while stationed there. I kick myself to this day for not buying a half dozen or so, they were sold in there original factory box with it's spare magazine included (one flat bottom, the other with the finger grip). They simply are a pure joy to shoot and carry.

[@ClarenceCochran-ne7du]

For some reason, .32ACP just never really took off that well in the US. Of Browning's little three cartridges .25, .32, and .380, only .380 remained popular (though .25 was popular with Saturday Night Special makers). Europe was where .32 had the most success. Seems like every Police Dept in Europe ran a .32 of one brand of another. A few all the way into the 60s and 70s. .32's a very pleasant round to shoot in the few guns I've tried chambered for it. I really wanted to try the .32 NAA, that was out briefly. Basically CorBon and North American Arms codesigned it for NAAs Guardian Pocket Auto. They took a .380 case, and necked it down to a .32 bullet. Velocities of around 1400fps were what they ended up with. Quite impressive. They did similar with the .25 NAA, a .32 case necked down to a .25 bullet, with a similar velocity improvement. Unfortunately, neither were a success, as no other manufacturer worked or redesigned their guns to accommodate a quite peppy little round. Yes, that was a phenomenal purchase you made. I'm assuming 80s for your PPs purchase time. Lik the $59 SKSs in the 80s, if only we'd known then that they'd sell at $400 to$500 35 years later, I'd have bought one a month and just stored them all.

[@ditzydoo4378]

@@ClarenceCochran-ne7du yes the .380 outpaced both the .25 and .32 autos. but when one looks at the totals sold from 1900 onward, the little ,32 more than measures up.

[@gonzo_the_great1675]

I had a Walther PP in 32acp, before they banned pistols in the UK. Cracking little gun. Loved it to bits.

[@theraven6836]

There’s a reason people still carry the ppk, even to this day. Although I’ve shelved mine in favor of a sig 938, it’s still a great little pistol that really didn’t start to decline in popularity until manufacturers were able to squeeze the 9mm cartridge into a comparable size.

[@bdockett]

The safety features of the PPK are hard to match. Perfect for appendix carry with very light clothing.

[@lairdcummings9092]

In my experience, many Micro 9s are highly selective of the ammunition they'll eat; maneuvering a 9mm cartridge into the chamber, in the space which is comfortable for .380, is a non-trivial challenge; the shape of the bullet matters, and can be limiting. If it's going to be 'micro,' .380 is more reliable, in my experience.

[@rediius]

I thought I was the only one who'd made the Walther PPK to Sig P938 transition! My only remaining PPK/S is in .22 LR with the threaded barrel but that's for a totally different application. Still love the platform but it's outdated and I have to be honest with that.

[@iuploadherebecauseimnotbuy7236]

Lol the Sig 938 is what I bought my wife for mother's day, she loves it.

[@theraven6836]

@@lairdcummings9092 Like with all ammo, run one or two boxes through it first to see if it likes the taste. I've found Federal HST JHP to feed just fine.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

I can see why these are only self-defense guns. And it is a blessing to see Gun Jesus dual-wield.

[@WardenWolf]

I have a Polish P-64, chambered in 9x18 Mak (effectively .380 +P). It's identical to a PPK for all intents and purposes. Let me tell you, they're just not that pleasant to shoot. I retired it recently in favor of a Ruger LC9S which, despite firing a significantly more powerful cartridge, has a much lower felt recoil (blowback vs. locked breech). I found, like Ian did, that the design is extremely accurate, although the small sights make it harder.

[@TOMAS-lh4er]

I like that Hawaiian shirt , I'm trying to find a few at the second-hand store for myself ! I want to stay politicly correct ,

[@DevyKins]

@@TOMAS-lh4er Kohls, and Wal-Mart has ones very similar. Mine are George brand. I hope that helps

[@ryanpeck3377]

@TOMAS I have the same exact shirt as Ian...its from TwistedToucan $54.99

[@robertstrickland2121]

Actually, they are much more suited as assassins weapons than self defense. Strangely enough, the fatalities per shooting is just behind the 45 acp and higher than 9mm or 40 cal.

[@CutlassOutdoors]

I miss my .32 PPK. It shot sooooo smoothly. Barely any recoil, super accurate... I loved it.

[@AndWhatISeeIsME]

"I usually resist, BUT I played a ton of Goldeneye as a kid, and as such, I have to do this."

[@vencelsiecks5995]

Last time i was so early, James Bond was Sean Connery....

[@docod-vq6iv]

i see what you did there i aprove ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)👍🏾

[@IndianaJoe3]

Last time I was this early, James Bond was Barry Nelson.

[@ketchman8299]

Sean is the only and true James Bond.

[@lordives7181]

RIP

[@AshleyPomeroy]

@@IndianaJoe3 The last time etc James Bond was the author of Birds of the West Indies.

[@joemama.556]

one note: i find my dad's ppk to be stupid accurate, I assume thats due to the fixed barrel, but again it crazy for such a small pistol with standard deffensive .380 ammo, even with those fixed sights. I wish more companies made fixed barrel handguns, they are mad simple and accurate.

[@MMitchellMarmel]

cough cough Hi-Point cough cough

[@tauneutrino1able]

I don't have a ppk but I do have a Sig p232 (in stainless). Its just a little bit bigger than a Walther (around 1/4 inch in hight and length)but basically the same. I find it very accurate and shootable and carry it during the summer for just that reason(they are .380's).

[@commandZee]

The CZ Kadet 22lr is impressive and fun!

[@chitoryu12]

I've found the LCP 2 to be accurate enough for what the gun's doing, while having the advantage of a lighter recoil spring weight because of the locked breech design so it's a bit easier to handle quickly or if you've got poor grip strength.

[@theseukonnen1200]

The Bersa Thunder .380 is made with less glamor and polish than a PPK, but it's clearly the same lineage of fixed-barrel pistol and I find it even shoots better! (better trigger, slightly better ergonomics.)

[@TheReaper126]

I truly think that the best options is the 32 acp instead of the 380 acp

[@thevoxofreason8468]

These pistols were the first weapons that got me into firearms. I don't know what it is, but i just find them to be aesthetically pleasing...very pretty little pistols.

[@matthayward7889]

2:52 what **im** impressed with is how Ian has coordinated ear pro and shirt 👌

[@Stevarooni]

Our Ian is a dapper fellow.

[@hueyiroquois3839]

Proper attire is very important when shooting a PPK.

[@DK-nv9zu]

These videos really make me miss living in Nevada, where you can just drive out to the desert and shoot. Living in the city these days and $20/hr for a crowded range gets old fast.

[@drizler]

Dhan Knows I just walk back 200 yards and plunk in my own back 40. I tried the city and got sick of the residents real fast. Today with the Woke generation on the loose I can see it was a good choice.

[@deadflowers7017]

@@drizler So very true

[@brantardrey7360]

Especially the arrogant yard boss everybody is wrong and every shooter is a danger. ....i been shooting since a kid..never felt unsafe? ?

[@1SaG]

Next up: Comparing the two larger calibre PPKs to the Beretta 418. Working title: "Was Q right?"

[@snakehunter10mm4]

@W M Thirded!

[@oldbatwit5102]

It was Major Geoffrey Boothroyd, he suggested the 7.65.

[@agricola]

Beretta 70 > ppk

[@zacharyrollick6169]

Was that a Dr. No reference?

[@zacharyrollick6169]

Was that a Dr. No reference?

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

06:09 the James Bond theme needs to start playing when you dual wield them. Goldeneye N64 flashbacks. ^_^

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

@@d.1.a_mayby18 surface?

[@harrysunford8965]

@@ragingjaguarknight86 Yes its Surface 1 with the sniper rifle.

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

@@harrysunford8965 Surface is a cool level, but Aztec was my favorite level. The level itself and the music were on point. 😎👍

[@harrysunford8965]

@@ragingjaguarknight86 Yeah Aztec is a cool level, but on 00 Agent difficulty it's a nice challenge!

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

@@harrysunford8965 yeah, Jaws kept killing me. 😂

[@chrissheffield5468]

McCollum. Ian McCollum.

[@ben501st]

"I'll have a Boulvedier shaken not stirred."

[@henrygallego9197]

I have no objections

[@apuzyr]

I have the Interarms .in both 32 & .380. Prefer the .32; as there’s much less report and significantly more accurate.

[@mkendall8393]

32acp is a range toy but not a serious self defense caliber.

[@satanscilantro4929]

@@mkendall8393 uhhh you sure? You get hit a sober person with a 32 auto to the legs or center of mass he’s definitely going down. Perfect for a purse gun. Go get shot with a 22 short and report back. Probably wouldn’t wanna get hit with a 32….

[@anonymousAJ]

​@@mkendall8393 With European-spec .32 ACP FMJ gets 16-17 inches of penetration

[@jakejanssen4319]

@@mkendall8393the European police forces who used it as a service caliber for decades would like to speak with you

[@iainsmith6643]

Sheer style, loud shirt shades and a German flektkarn cap. What gives is this Arizona fashion week?

[@numarkaz]

Lolz.. must be!

[@FreakyLemon51]

As a German, I am legally obligated to correct you on your spelling of "Flecktarn". That is all, have a nice day.

[@opencarry3860]

The shirt is a boogaloo shirt.

[@LOUDcarBOMB]

6:11 - 6:38 *Rise of the Triad theme plays and intensifies*

[@chrisnorman1183]

No no Please!

[@zerotheero]

cue Going Down the Fast Way!

[@limeybonesjones7395]

i felt that in my soul

[@anthony92399]

Ludacris Gibs!

[@DK-nv9zu]

Haha best comment I've seen all day

[@timhahne3894]

Carried a stainless 380 PPk as a back up / off duty gun for 20 years. Great guns.

[@Treblaine]

"Hits like a brick through a plate glass window... not a very large brick mind you."

[@worldtraveler930]

Alright, here's some dual wielding trivia for you: Keep both eyes open, you'll see four guns, only aim with the inside two.

[@joet.s.6283]

Sounds like something a World Traveler would be wise to know

[@Herzankerkreuz67]

Thanks, good to know when they come to force vaccinate........ Just saying.........🤦‍♂️😎

[@Bob3519]

Does that work when you see four after you've been Drinkin' ? Asking for a friend.🤔😬

[@joet.s.6283]

@@TheRealColBosch optional, but strongly encouraged

[@chriscary4074]

@@Bob3519 no, if you're drunk you see 8 and aim with the inner 4

[@coldandaloof7166]

Whoa whoa whoa, I had to pause a minute to contemplate someone spending 5 figures on a 25acp........Ok that's out of the way now back to the video.

[@simbiote89]

one on Rock Island Auction went for just shy of 14k

[@LOUDcarBOMB]

At least it's not like getting Hermann Goering's PPK with case that sold at RIA for $230,000.

[@donaldasayers]

I was offered one in the 80s for a couple of hundred...

[@stevenbobbybills]

@@donaldasayers should have taken it.

[@claudiodiaz9752]

@@stevenbobbybills No shit.

[@Lintary]

In a few more years we will see him go full on gun fu dual wielding shooting while jumping and rolling through the range :D

[@widgren87]

As far as I am concerned regarding Ian ”dual-wielding” pistols is that he’ll never top the dual Stetchkins :-) Still a nice video.

[@skoshman1]

If I recall correctly, one of the features of that excellent video was the number of people filming him

[@maffioli14]

My grandpa recently gifted me his stainless steel Walther ppks he bought in 1993 for my 22nd bday

[@ckl8a]

@@mattrobinson5099 i think grandpa bought the gun in 1993 and just gave it to him/her when they turned 22

[@markwhite1780]

I had one too. Nice pistol. Well made. Came with gunsmiths documents and test fire round. Or was that test fire round really a documentation of the barrel rifling photographed and entered into a database?

[@arielgarcia5065]

@@mattrobinson5099 the only thing you know about his grandpa is that he bought it in 1993, you don't know when he was born...wtf

[@zoloftdependant5246]

@@arielgarcia5065 he said recently, so 1998

[@magnusolsen691]

And he took the PPK, gave thanks, and cocked it, saying "This is my .380, given to you..."

[@alfontana6242]

Years ago I purchased a PPK in .22 lr manufactured in 1967. I still have the original box, with all the paper work including the test target and spare flat bottom magazine. This was one of my first handguns. With .22 lr ammo at the time running about 1 cents per round I shot the heck out of this pistol, At least over 50,000 rounds. Never had any issues with it. Even though the PPK was designed by Walther back in 1929-30 it is still one of the most handsome pistols ever manufactured. Friends at the time ask why I did not buy a .380. I told them I could buy nearly 500 rds of .22LR for the price of only 50 rds of .380, and at the time I was a young man just starting my career and not exactly wealthy. Every time I look at this pistol, as I am now 70 years old ,it brings back many fond memories and will always stay in our family.

[@Bob3519]

He had the Magnum PI look today, with the James Bond Gun.

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

Tom Selleck approves.

[@allenw969]

Thanks for the video. It cleared up one of my questions. The recoil of the 32 ACP does appear to be much less than the 380 ACP.

[@hanktorrance6855]

Thanks for the great comparison, for those that can't handle the extra recoil, since shot placement and follow up usually trumps power. It's always amazed me at what passed for solid defensive pistol ctgs at the turn of the century, vs what we consider today, all those 32 and 38 caliber ctgs, to say nothing of 25

[@soloser-1tipodeporahi.899]

NIce ... Finally a Competition of Walther PP Himself...

[@Punisher9419]

Walther has a little PP.

[@ibad8504]

@@Punisher9419 and it's name starts with a K

[@Razgriz85]

The Hungarian copy of the PP is pretty decent. The firing pin assembly being the only annoyance.

[@TanukiDigital]

One thing I learned from this video: Never rely on a ..22 for self protection.

[@WH250398]

Likely a worn out spring. Mine had the exact same problem. When in good shape, it's pretty great, and a lot of fun.

[@carolinagoldbug983]

I've always been wary of .22 (certainly long-rifle) in a pistol. I DO absolutely trust a .22 (especially magnum) in my revolver. I have a sweet S&W 'AirLite' 7-shot in .22-magnum. Great little self-defense close-in gun. And .22-magnum packs a nice little wallop for a tiny diameter bullet.

[@Dja05]

I own a PPK/L in .32, it's my favorite conceal carry piece and I shoot it better than most of my other handguns.

[@red9man2130]

You are VERY lucky to own one! I have been after Walther to either build a alloy frame .32 ppk OR crazy as it may sound a POLYMER frame ppk in .32. Of course the Geniuses" at Walther have ignored me and countless others who have requested they bring back the .32 ppk!

[@Dja05]

@@red9man2130 .32 ppk's aren't that hard to find in Europe, the pots war models usually go for around 350 euros.

[@redcat9436]

@@Dja05 In the US we can find the PPK .32 without too much trouble. It's the aluminum framed ones that are hard to find.

[@jonnylivesinbr]

Didn't even now they made the PKK/L in larger calibers than the .22 lr. How is the material and blueing quality of the PPK/L compared to the regular PPK?

[@einzelfeuer_2855]

@@red9man2130 Buy an FEG 63 in 32.

[@Outerwebs]

Once you've dual-wielded Stechkins, anything else just seems passé...

[@UXB1000]

If only he had a third hand. Would've want to see him tri-wield all of them.

[@rifles_up2263]

So true

[@UXB1000]

@@kristianchristensen2254 I like your thinking.

[@franzschmid9079]

Air marshals in Swizterland had the PPK of even the smaller TPH in cal .22lr. In 70this and 8this Some of them had Beretta Mod. 70 in .22lr. Both pistols had been well accepted by the marshals. Some times ago, the Swiss Police had the PP or PPK in cal .32 ACP as there duty gun. Great old low power gun whitch fits perfect in a side pocket or in leg holster as well.

[@BlitzPig23]

I own a 1937 PP in 7.65 Browning, it is an absolute sweetheart to shoot, and as you have found out, it is quite accurate. I wish the PPK versions were more affordable now, I'd love to have one in .32. Thanks for the video Ian.

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

Hush, don´t tell them! We both know that the PP is a better gun then the PPK. It is just slightly larger and gives you : 1 more round, better grip, higher velocity and easier to shoot well thanks to longer distance between front and rear sight.

[@USSEnterpriseA1701]

The deciding factor for me between .32 and .380 actually turned out to be ammo availability more than anything. My dad and I both kind of got bitten by the vintage pocket pistol bug thanks in large part to C&Rsenal. This just happened to be during the great ammo drought of 2013-2015 (at least that's about how long it lasted in our area), and it just so happened that one of the few calibers that could still be reliably found on shelves was .32. It also worked out that dad and I found decent deals on a whole slew of .32s that had been notable in C& Rsenal's WWI series, starting with a Walther Model 4 and ending with a Savage 1917 (that still needs a replacement grip screw, but we never can seem to find a good enough time to go to the gunsmith's). Those little things made for good substitute plinkers when .22 was scarce.

[@seanwtfgamer]

Loved the video, it’s great when Inrange or forgotten weapons feature a .32 ACP.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

If you didn’t know, in the original James Bond novels, Ian Fleming had James Bond using a Beretta 418 in .25 acp because Fleming thought that was good enough for a spy. Then a fan named Boothroyd wrote him saying that was a wimpy ladies gun and get Bond something better like a 32 acp. And so a legendary gun was born

[@markshippoli8918]

32acp is IMO one of the truly great all around calibers. Very shootable...easy to get follow-up shots. Not to mention getting shot a quick 5-6 times in the chest, would be nothing to sneeze at either!

[@HotVoodooWitch]

Cheaper than .380, no?

[@chadplow824]

@@HotVoodooWitch No. Harder to find these days too.

[@HotVoodooWitch]

@@chadplow824 😖

[@satanscilantro4929]

@@chadplow824 reload it. Load em hot

[@justinedse3314]

@@satanscilantro4929 Too risky

[@PavewayJDAM]

Excellent choice in shirts. Love my Walther PPS Gen 1, the spiritual successor to the PPK

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@samuelneese482]

A new Forgotten Weapons video featuring three variations of my favorite handgun of all time! Thanks Goldeneye!! What a great way to end the weekend.

[@avalonjustin]

My man Ian!💪 I appreciate the excellent camera footage of these tests.

[@ronaldbarnes6204]

Had a PP IN 32 I foolishly traded away several years ago. Wish I had it back.

[@Thomasnmi]

I really like my PP

[@rjmiller8330]

Since when did “looks dumb” ever stop us.

[@paulvine5056]

Great video. I have had three Walther PP type pistols. One in 22, one in 32 and one in 380. I like that my favorite one was an East German PP in 32 ACP. It shot really well and regretted selling it.

[@asmith7876]

I have a Colt model 1903 in .32 ACP. Awesome gun, has all the features built into the 1911 but with "modern" amenities like smoothed over edges, nothing to catch on anything, small sights, designed as a "pocket" gun but over 100 years ago. Mine was made in 1907, my grandfather bought it in the 1920's. It drills, amazing little gun. I've considered finding a modern style that would pass the drop test. Shot placement, not caliber! Good shooting by the way!

[@musterd93]

As I sip my coffee in my Walther hoodie

[@Roy_Godiksen]

When i think "dual wielding" handguns, i think firing both guns at the same time at one or two targets simultaneously. But that was cool too💖👍🏻

[@SNOUPS4]

The dual wielding exercise in the end was actually quite nice for us to see the differences in recoil!

[@ggplaysRiP4k]

This man’s aim is the most accurate and precise I’ve seen in any video ever!!!🎉 MORE, PLEASE!

[@diptastik5651]

Nice shootin Tex ! ( Sorry I know you are in Arizona ). If we had concealed carry in the UK , I would definitely carry a PPK

[@cloudkitt]

I refuse to accept that any British person would carry anything else.

[@red9man2130]

Hi Ian I have been waiting for this video. For all practical purposes the difference between the .380 and the .32 in "stopping power" is only about 2-3% in actual shootings. I prefer the .32 ppk for one extra round.

[@mekelasarus7341]

I think it's only 1% they are very similar I have a 380 also my friend has 32 acp they are always performing equal in penetration power test

[@jerichofalls8236]

A gentleman and a scholar as usual, Ian. Seems like every time I find myself wondering about something relating to 20th century firearms, you've already covered it many years ago.

[@johnblood3731]

you and tom are so knowledgeable, respectful, and easy to listen to. and i will take both the 32 and 380.

[@LittleRabbit1138]

I'd love to see some more .32 vs .380 comparisons, there's just so many options! Colt 1903, Savage 1907, Mauser hsc, could be a fun course of videos.

[@mottee]

A nice pair to compare would be a Beretta 35 in .32 and a Beretta 34 in .380. Identical pistols except the caliber. I own both and would love to see what Gun Jesus gets out of them.

[@AlexPcmsm]

The savage would loose, they aren't very pleasant

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

Thats Walther PP series for you: Pleasant tackdrivers.

[@StarSwarm.]

Good video. Was interesting seeing the different calibers side by side.

[@sameregarde]

thank you Ian to bringing us such a fantastic content especially the ones with french pistols and rifles cheers from south of france

[@dat.v7100]

Thanks for the great vid as always 👍

[@TheKingOfHeartsIV]

The .25 ACP Walther will be worth more if Ian fires it.

[@pguth98]

.25ACP PPK? Now THAT is truly a Forgotten Weapon.

[@steverichens4242]

Great video, great demeanor and you’re even up against a moving target ...I was looking for somebody to explain the difference between those two calibers, thank you

[@titaniummechanism3214]

The Bundeswehr hat goes nicely with the hawaiian camo pattern!

[@markh.6687]

He only wants his head to be camo'd :)

[@chrismc410]

I like my 1961 Manurhin .32 PP. My go to gun is the PP series Russian cousin: Makarov PM, Bulgarian, made about 1965. Neither one has failed me. The Makarov has saved my life more than once.

[@mpetry912]

great range demo Ian !

[@BIG-DIPPER-56]

Man now that was cool as hell ! ! ! Nice show - thanks!

[@elijahbrooks8589]

Had a PPK it was very accurate. Might still have it if someone else hadn’t needed my gun safe more🙁

[@notesfromthebunker6250]

I wanna know what brand of .22 gave that epic fail.

[@chrisperrien7055]

If you have the "new" old Interarms/S&W PPK/S (older than about 10-20 years IIRC) , they were the subject of a mandatory safety defect recall. If you have one from back then , and never got the recall notice or the gun never had this defect corrected , they do have an issue , and if you submit it to license dealer , they will(have to) send it back to S&W(if it has not been fixed already) who will send it to Walther in Germany, and those Germans will do about 100+ little adjustments/checks to your gun, besides fixing the defect- . I highly suggest that. The Interarms PPK has "issues" besides the safety defect (accuracy, jamming, etc.) , but what you get back from Walther is a fine shooting gun. I gotta say mine saw a massive improvement . (at no charge to you) took about 6-8+ months, but it is worth it

[@danhill6333]

Nice shootin' Tex! Actually very impressive shooting.

[@zephrizi9034]

I love my .22lr version of this pistol, with a suppressor it's hard to put down.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

How is it with ammo? I hear 40 grain high velocity is ok

[@benstoyles1297]

Shouldn't the control have been a brick through a plate glass window?

[@Nm_09]

So I learned when I first got my .22 PPK that these guns prefer hot ammo, .22lr with a lower powder charge tends to not cycle the action. This is a fantastic video as always and I look forward to hopefully getting a proper PPK in the future.

[@ryanpeck3377]

Compared to the Modern Keltec P3AT and Ruger LCP the PPK is humongous and very heavy which makes for a much more pleasent shooting experience but has the drawback of not being anywhere near as concealable.

[@chrisdooley6468]

I actually had a .380 as my carry gun for a few years. I absolutely loved that gun. I should’ve never traded it on lol

[@highlandoutsider8148]

Love how the .22 didn't even make it into the title 🤣

[@billherrig1184]

My PPK .22 is very fussy with the type of 22s it likes. CCI works best

[@redcat9436]

@@billherrig1184 My 1965 PPK .22 has been completely reliable so far. What vintage is yours ?

[@nightofthunder5509]

It makes you question .22 as a defensive carry after seeing how often it failed

[@AxLWake]

@@nightofthunder5509 Just find some good ammo that the gun likes and it will be just fine.

[@thunderring8056]

I saw this video early today and forgot to watch it. Then I watch James Bond, search for videos on PPK’s and fined this. “I must be dreaming.”

[@hamm6035]

I am a Baretta fan. I smile when I think of the series. Alley cat .22, Bob cat .32, Tom cat .380. I carry the 32 as my backup or even primary depending upon the event. Never dance with future inlaws in a shoulder rig. Though the look on grandma's face was a little precious.

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

Baretta? You mean the old detective show from the 70s with Robert Blake? Yeah it was ok, but what has that to do with guns?

[@MacDorsai]

Back in the 80's, I had an Interarms Walther PPKS in .380 and I found it surprisingly unpleasant to shoot. Maybe it was the ammo, but you felt it in the web. I picked up a Police trade in PP in .32 and it was an absolute joy to shoot. I still have it. The downside to carrying either one for defensive purposes, was the horrible DA pull for that first shot. I never put it on a scale, but if I was to guess, I'd have put the pull weight at close to 20lbs. Aside from the DA trigger pull, I would hand the .32 PP to a new shooter and be confident they would enjoy it. Kind of like handing them an M1 Carbine. Very pleasant.

[@NuGanjaTron]

Agreed, the DA pull on the original PPKs is downright insane. Any revolver has a lighter pull. I think the recent S&W produced PPKs have a much improved trigger tho.

[@kopasedik]

Did he accessorize his earplugs to his Hawaiian shirt? Holy hell, that is amazing. I have to get ear protection like that.

[@Razgriz85]

I do enjoy shooting my FEG AP, the Hungarian PP clone that's also in .32. I did get a bit of hammer bite from having my hand a bit too far up at one point.

[@davidhilliard1350]

A long time ago, I qualified for concealed carry with a PPK/S in 380. It was easy to carry and pretty enjoyable, yet a little snappy to shoot. It was in my carry rotation for years, until I got a PPK in .32acp. I found .32acp the right balance between sight radius, recoil and carry size. Later I bought two models PP, one stainless and one blued. With the uncertainties of today's world, I've changed my rotation to larger calibers, but when I have to have to dress formally or in a light casual fashion, the PPK or a Seecamp 32 comes with me.

[@andygiri1149]

When do we get a .50 desert eagle dual wield video? Can't wait

[@anvilmemetrooper]

Ah! Germans!

[@mr.hawkeye3319]

Jaja wir deutschen...

[@arkadeepkundu4729]

Germans: Aaah, _Germans_

[@GCJT1949]

@@arkadeepkundu4729 A Finn can recognize a German at 500 meters over open sights. Geoff Who is sort of Polish...it's complicated.

[@a4channoob]

you such i had to go back and rewatch it. now i wont be able to get that out of my head. im goning to be walking around and randomly yell "ahh Germans!" again

[@MarvelousSeven]

Ooo oh no, the Germans! Oh help me Smithers! They're so big and scary, ooh the Germans...

[@OldManMontgomery]

I have a Colt 1903 .32 ACP. I have shot it on a Texas Star (just about everyone's favorite). The plates will come off with one hit, but hit the plate close to the end. The leverage against the retainer helps. (Factory PPU ammunition.) I am not confident in stopping power in either .32 or .380 ACP. But they can work up close and with surprise. Trivia fact: A 71grain .32 ACP bullet is larger (by percentage) to a 180 pound human than a 500 grain .458 caliber bullet is to a seven ton elephant. Of course, usually the circumstances are different.

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

That Colt gets some more velocity than the PPK due to its longer barrel. And your ammo might be hotter then Ians(?).

[@LtCmdrGordon]

Ian that was super cool, thank you! I

[@BadBonsai1]

is this .32 Cartridge the 7,65 mm Browning (7,65 x 17 HR)?

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

Yes! But the european standard of the cartridge is slightly different from the US variation. The EU verson is the original, i believe.

[@BadBonsai1]

@@RiderOftheNorth1968 ok, thank you.

[@ketchman8299]

No, original version us US as well it was designed by John Moses Browning but the Europeans liked it much better than the US did and load it hotter. Like a 65 grain at 1100fps.

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

@@ketchman8299 It was design for FN in Belgium. WHERE he designed it is a moot point since it is made, originaly for an european gun.

[@jonnylivesinbr]

@@ketchman8299 that makes sense! When I shot the 7,65 in Germany out of a hungarian FEG, the recoil felt much stronger than I expected for a .32 acp.

[@CzechoslovakGunStories]

this is probably the most handsome pistol of all times... :)

[@Richman0815]

Hey Ian, thanks a lot for this nice shooting.👍 It's a cool cap "Feldmütze" that you wear. You should it wear more often. 😉😉

[@d3734]

His dual wielding reminded me of the IG-88 unit's shooting in the first episode of the Mandalorian 😲

[@thetruthexperiment]

O come on Ian, guns are fun. God forbid we have to use them for the other reason. Two guns are twice as fun.

[@Snowball042]

Decades of gun writers bemoaning the .380 in the PPK/PP platform has made everyone think it’s a monster. A friend of mine compared his .380 PPK/S to my .32 PP. little difference in shooting recoil. Both were quite pleasant. Thanks for helping dispel the myth.

[@stephenland9361]

I have a Walther PP in .32 ACP. I love it. PP is for 'Polizeipistole', or police pistol. I often hear people say that the 'K' in PPK stands for 'Kurz' (German for 'short) but it stands for 'Kriminal'. So PPK means 'Polizeipistole Kriminal', basically a detective model. Compared to the same calibre of PP model, it has shorter barrel, grip and reduced magazine capacity and makes for an easier concealed gun for plain clothes or undercover work.

[@speedandstyletony]

Love the Magnum PI uniform Ian chose.