Walther Q5 Match Steel Frame - The Best Competition Option?

[@Ethan-lr7fj]

It's genuinely one of the best looking pistols I've ever seen

[@KSGunGuy01]

Right on! Thank you and cheers!

[@MrDilarius]

Did you see the new berreta performance ?

[@thevelointhevale1132]

Had this gun in the hand today - the grip is amazing! (Q5 Match Champion) INSTANT LOVE! Tried beside CZ Shadow 2 ... CZ SP-01 and a Beretta M9A3 ... the Q5 felt part of my body, the others weren't close.

[@russell5414]

Great review, if you get the Black Ribbon model it comes with the Walther Dynamic Performance Trigger, which is a improvement over the standard.

[@atimes2387]

As someone who doesn't use forward slide serrations for their intended purpose, I think the banner is a nice touch. Sweet pistol and awesome review!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Well said brother! Thank you and cheers!

[@silverbackgorilla2112]

I love my Q5 Match SF Pro, it's a Functional Work of Art. I also switched to Green Fiber optic. I agree with you on the trigger, for a competition gun it should be a little lighter.

[@Catgat37]

I am strongly considering trading 3 of my guns just for this. Rarely do any firearms feel this perfect in my hand.

[@KeanonGilliamSlang369]

Nice review. What I love most about it is, it steel. Unique that it's a steel striker fired pistol. Will be on my list.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you Keanon! It definitely is unique. Cheers brother!

[@ace-lw7jk]

This Walther is the best looking production gun I have seen in awhile.

[@CZFanGrrl]

Can’t wait to see the “If I can only have one”. I think your reviews are honest and objective and you keep in mind that guns are pretty subjective for some gun owners (as you can see from my name, lol). If I could shoot the Shadow 2 in IDPA I would only have just one. Since I can’t I’m always on the look out for a weight legal steel gun for IDPA. Thank you for your reviews!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much for the nice compliment! I am definitely looking forward to doing the If I Could Only Have One although it’s tough to beat the Shadow 2, lol. Cheers CZ Fan Girl!

[@sjmiller6012]

Excellent review. Lots of detailed info. Frequently carry the 4" barrel compact ppq. Still like an all steel. Will carry this one. Have a steel Sig 228. Was State police standard for yrs. Also carry 4" dbl stack 9mm 2011. Both weigh in, loaded, just over 40oz. Have adapted, don't notice the hier weight. Like them becuz they shoot so well. Did replace the grip with blue/black custom grip frm Lokgrips. Thinner, no palm swell backstrap. Looks good. Grip colour matches trigger. CNC machined. Very good texture. Re your thumb knuckle problem. I always shoot wearing fingerless gloves. So no issue. Thanks.

[@HonestOutlawReviews]

It's an amazing gun no doubt, better than the shadow 2? I just don't think so. Great video man

[@KSGunGuy01]

Haha!! We shall see about that match-up. Thank you and cheers brother!

[@Profile.4]

Nobody asked what you think, fruitcake.

[@carlkleynhans3864]

Beretta 92X 🏆

[@dominickdelfino7552]

That feedramp is polished for sure. Ive not seen an out of the box gun with a polish that nice.

[@KSGunGuy01]

It’s pretty well polished for sure! Thank you and cheers!

[@airdumptruck1098]

I would love to see Walther release this with a Tungsten Cerakote or Grey PVD frame with the black controls and grip. That would look very sexy.

[@KSGunGuy01]

That would look very cool! Thank you and cheers!

[@Kingdomcome666]

Thanks brother for yet another awesome review. This gun’s been on top of my wish list for 2019 since Walther announced its release. The price is a bit too rich for my blood though so I guess I have to cut back drastically on beer and daily coffees for a long while lol. It’s by far one of the coolest and bad-ass looking pistols out there and if Batman was given the choice to pick a 9mm for his sidearm he would definitely opt for this one lol. Heck, in some aspects it’s even looking cooler than the new Alien pistol. It’s a bit early but I think this gun is on its way to become the best production competition gun right out of the box. Thanks again

[@KSGunGuy01]

Tough to cut out the beer and coffee! I do agree that Batman may indeed like this one. Thank you and cheers!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Out of my price range, but also a cool gun. Good video as usual.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you Alaskan! It’s a great gun but I agree about the price. Cheers brother!

[@larrys009]

Chill on the trigger pull, it's a major production gun. To put a light competition trigger out of the box is asking for trouble. On the range anyone can rip off rounds fast with no stress. Just my $ .02. Keep Rockin ;)

[@bamahi7142]

If it can't be found in the "used" market, it would be safe to say it's a good gun.

[@expo2000000]

2019 is the year of steel frame striker pistols :D

[@KSGunGuy01]

You may be right! Thank you and cheers!

[@noahnewcomer5180]

Overwatch precision trigger and sprinco spring kit can easily achieve a 3.5# trigger. Will be buying one of these shortly!

[@FDCel]

Great info as usual , looks awesome but I think Walther should of kept the price around $900--$1000 !!!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much and I completely agree about the price. It’s an awesome gun but probably not worth the $1500 or more. Cheers!

[@Rancid_Sanity]

This was my first gun about 5 months ago and I absolutely love it! I now have 6 guns cause I couldn't stop lol. It's like tattoos once you get one suddenly your covered in em lol. I have the FN 509 for my Conceal carry and the Q5's trigger blows it out of the water that being said I still love the 509

[@dangelocoleman758]

That’s a beautiful weapon

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much! Cheers!

[@medicmike4906]

I have the Q4 SF I LOVE THIS PISTOL. I own 2 pistols with suppressor height sites. If you're using a red dot on this pistol and you do not know enough about your pistol to know where that round is going you should be able to hit your target regardless.

[@tobiasrex8052]

Managed to snag myself one of these babies from a local gunstore brand spankin new for $1,245.99 instead of the listed price of $1,599.99 (not the pro model). Gotta say Its a damn fine gun!

[@jnieto237]

Great job as usual. Thank you!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much! Cheers!

[@cahusker8668]

It's like my Shadow and Q5 Match hooked up and had a baby! Walther got it right making it IDPA weight legal. Not sure why CZ didn't want to capture some of the IDPA market with the CZ Shadow 2. Looks like my Q5 will be upgrading to a SF. As my eyes get older I need the carry optics. One of the reasons I love the Q5 is the fact you don't co-witness. Plus I don't need my prescription glasses to see the red dot!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Right on! The SF has been very impressive. Thank you and cheers!

[@Sanctified_Leather]

Really Nice Looking pistol. Great Video and love the intro KS 👍👍 Have A Blessed Weekend KS ..

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you Steven! It’s been a fun gun indeed. Cheers and have a great weekend as well brother!

[@glockster68]

Well I think the PPQ and P10c are the best striker guns out there....so yes I have a Qmatch(polymer frame) and it is an awesome gun.

[@KSGunGuy01]

That’s awesome Glockster! I too love the P10. Thank you and cheers!

[@jakejackson8395]

This vs the Sig X-Five seems like a great matchup

[@KSGunGuy01]

It sure would be Jake! Thank you and cheers!

[@mic187x2]

I'm seeing the Sig X Five for 700- 800

[@AKJeeper]

I loved the regular PPQ M2 (mostly because of the trigger) and I think this one will be my next handgun. :)

[@KSGunGuy01]

Right on! Thank you and cheers!

[@tacticalpontoon]

Remembering my PPQ, that looks like the reset that I had. A little more tuning should have gone into the trigger when you look at the price difference between this and the Q5. That being said.....I would not be upset owning this.

[@KSGunGuy01]

I completely agree brother. For the money, there should have been more refining and tuning. My old PPQ M2 trigger seemed a bit nicer to be honest. Thank you and cheers TP!

[@injuredoutdoorsman9011]

Really want one of these as a competition pistol when I get into an adaptive shooting league.

[@davegass1650]

What a great looking gun ! Great review as always 👍 .

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you Dave! Cheers brother!

[@marcus1282]

Love the color of that trigger!!!!!!

[@KSGunGuy01]

I do too! Thank you and cheers!

[@greenstreet5287]

Thats the coolest looking gun.

[@BagsEsquire]

Another great review. Looking forward to seeing the “If I could have only one” between this and the Shadow 2 because I’m between the two on which one will be the next addition to my gun family.

[@KSGunGuy01]

It will be an interesting comparison indeed! Thank you and cheers!

[@BagsEsquire]

KSGunGuy, curios also what your thoughts are comparing this new Walther to the Canik TPSFX since the Canik “borrowed” so heavily from that platform and you reviews that one too...How would you compare the triggers, accuracy etc. Is the Walther SF worth more than twice the price?

[@KSGunGuy01]

I would say the Canik has a marginally better trigger but the Walther is going to be flatter. The TP9SFX is tough to beat for the money to be honest with you.

[@BagsEsquire]

KSGunGuy Great feedback, thanks for the replies!

[@KSGunGuy01]

@@BagsEsquire My pleasure!

[@DavidTMSN]

I own the PPQ M2. I would like to see a different design for the slide and frame in the future.

[@scottf.3808]

Nice pistol for sure as thanks for the info and vid....Good stuff....

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much Scott! Cheers brother!

[@youpwnt]

Here in germany we get a slightly upgraded trigger with our pro-model (they call it the 'champion model' and the 'champion grade trigger'). Also the price is slightly higher, comming at about 1800€ - which roughly translates to 2020$ US; but guns are almost always about 10 to 20% cheaper in the US - most likely because of the bigger market. Unfortunately the 'all-black' version (like the US 'pro-model') is only launched in june, so I have to wait till then to get mine. The ones they are shipping right now all have blue magwells and baseplates which I really don't like.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Right on! Thank you and cheers!

[@coreyreid1404]

Just bought one for my wife to shoot ipsc. She has the ppq5 22 now so not much for her to get used too. Thought it was a great choice. Beautiful gun. Cz tso for myself though.

[@matteolozano3477]

That's a beautiful pistol I love it

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much! Cheers!

[@bach5780]

That kind of money puts it in a class that it just does not compete very well imo. Very cool though. Thanks for the video!

[@KSGunGuy01]

It’s definitely on the higher end B! Great shooter though. Thank you and cheers!

[@HarrysHolsters]

Interesting to see how it plays out long term. When the PPQ launched it had a lot of momentum that slowly dried up. This was also after the Gen 4 glocks had a bunch of issues.

[@KSGunGuy01]

I agree Harry! It’s funny how the PPQ took a back seat to other options. Hopefully Walther will get back on track. Thank you and cheers!

[@32icon]

Nice looking firearm, and great review.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much 32! Cheers!

[@briangreen550]

Good Looking firearm. Nice video

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you Brian! Cheers!

[@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG]

Everytime I see this new Walther it just screams “John Wicks new gun!” Great review as always KS 👍🏽

[@KSGunGuy01]

Haha!! It would be awesome to see him run this for sure Kratos. Thank you and cheers as always brother!

[@guillermosilva5905]

This shit is the future. I need this!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Right on! Thank you and cheers!

[@dman3526]

Great video, as always. I’d love to get my paws on one of those.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much! Cheers Cosmos!

[@jonzack3882]

Dude i want this gun so bad. I really need to hit the lottery. Great video brother as always.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thanks Jon! It’s a fun shooter for sure. Cheers brother!

[@jonzack3882]

@@KSGunGuy01 I just think it's gorgeous. One of the best looking unmodified guns I've ever seen'. I carry am M2 so I'm a big Walther fan.

[@KSGunGuy01]

I do agree that it’s good looking.

[@KSGunGuy01]

I do agree that it’s good looking.

[@fokjohnpainkiller]

Excellent review. Well spoken, nice close ups and b-roll. Thumbs up

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much! Cheers!

[@RadDadisRad]

What an awesome plinker

[@Rancid_Sanity]

I just got the Q5 yesterday as my first gun

[@Catgat37]

Was it the steel frame???

[@Rancid_Sanity]

@@Catgat37 yes sirrrr!!!

[@lazerrred]

KSGG, had to hear your thoughts. Well done as always, but I don’t think I’ll ever leave my CZ Shadow 2 Happy Place Forever. 🇺🇸

[@KSGunGuy01]

The Shadow 2 is definitely an amazing gun! Thank you and cheers!

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

I love my Q5 SF, but my med/sm hands struggle just a bit. Still not as bad as the CZ S2. I'll be picking up the slim Lok grips as soon as they're available. I got the Non-pro, as I'll be picking up some +6 baseplates.

[@medicmike4906]

Trigger pull is to each individual. in my opinion. And I do plan on purchasing the steel frame pro version.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Well said! Thank you and cheers!

[@michaelcoleman7042]

Very nice gun awesome video

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much Michael! Cheers!

[@fumasterchu12]

It looks pretty nice, and has some great features. However, I think I will just keep my Q5 for now. If I spend that kind of money it will be on a S2 or Kriss Vector. Excellent review "as always", have a great weekend brother!

[@KSGunGuy01]

High price seems to be the theme for this gun and I agree. There are some amazing options at this range so it’s tough to drop the coins on the new kid on the block. Thank you and cheers Fu!

[@Youngguns173SW]

Nice KS looks like a winner to me 👍

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much Youngguns! Cheers brother!

[@sam3kperv]

Fuck competition, that's gonna be my every day carry gun!!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Nice! I recommend ankle carry for it. Thank you and cheers!

[@romainbraham5964]

I would certainly love to see, if I could have only one, between the the Walther and the Sig p320 x five. Really love your chanel.

[@KSGunGuy01]

I’ll see what I can do! Thank you and cheers!

[@Baldcurious]

German rep at ShotShow , wouldn't accept the fact that grip is simply too small for most of the people . Designed around compact frame,addition of mag well helps, but is illegal in divisions this gun is designed for . They should've figured out some kind of extension for grip ,when you take mag well off

[@KSGunGuy01]

It’s definitely a different type of gun and there are aspects that could have been better. Thank you and cheers Bald!

[@cahsahhhhhhhn]

Maybe put on thicker grips and an extended baseplate?

[@Raymo2u]

Such a gorgeous gun, I would pick up a Deltapoint with the optional iron sight attachment for it and run that optic on it. It seems like this is a much cleaner and more "high end" Canik TP9SFX, though I do wish that it had a ported barrel.

[@KSGunGuy01]

I agree! It definitely is a good looking gun. A ported barrel would certainly be interesting on this. Thank you and cheers!

[@angryd5552]

Looks like a great gun, like many others I agree the price is out of line. It should have been near the shadow 2 range.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thanks D! I do agree about the price. It may keep the SF out of contention for most buyers. Cheers brother!

[@jeffreyelliott622]

I could see the all steel version of this pistol being at this price point !!!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Right on! Thank you and cheers!

[@FlyWithMe_666]

Great review! 1) About comparing it to the Shadow 2: the Q5 SF seems to fill an interesting gap of non-polymer striker-fired guns. While there are plenty of top DA/SA (Shadow 2) and polymer striker guns (Q5, P320X5), which other non-polymer strikers for comp shooting come to your mind? 2) About the trigger pull: like the Shadow 2, the Q5 SF (non-pro version) seems to be very much designed for production class (IPSC, not sure about USPSA/DPA), which has a 5 pound threshold. Not an issue for the light Shadow SA trigger due to first DA pull in production, but for striker guns. With going for 3-4 pounds, they may have lost many potential buyers in this market.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Well said and great info about the triggers! Thank you and cheers!

[@MarkBadia]

Another great video! I am really looking forward to the Shadow 2 comparison and would also like a direct comparison to the Q5 polymer. The Steel frame sounds like a great gun but at twice the prices, well you can buy a lot of ammo and range time with the additional $800 dollars! So would love to know if you felt the steel frame improved your shooting enough to justify the cost. I am in the market for a comp gun and was looking at the Q5 and the TP9Sfx along with a few others and initially got excited about this gun until I heard the price. I am not sure the investment required for the Steel frame would make enough of a difference to justify it unless I was a top tier competitor, Unfortunately, this will never be a gun I can rent to try at my local range. Thanks for all your great videos!

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you Mark! Well said about getting a lot of ammo and range time for that kind of money. I do think the steel frames allows for more accurate shooting for most, though I don’t know that it justifies the price. For everyday shooters and competitors, there are definitely great options out there for sure. Cheers brother!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Good review. Great gun.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much! I agree about the gun. Cheers!

[@craigfatla907]

Now I don't shoot competition but, if I was to crawl my way above $1,000.00 I would buy a Shadow 2

[@KSGunGuy01]

It’s tough to beat the Shadow 2 Craig! Well said brother. Thank you and cheers!

[@TheGoatMumbler]

@@KSGunGuy01 Apples & grapefruits. Hammer fired vs striker fired. No one seems to mention that when comparing both of those great guns. The prob is you can't find a PPQ Q5 SF to fondle at the gun store against the CZ. I like to handle/dry fire them side by side if I can before I buy. Finding one to test fire is impossible.

[@joshcard9745]

Cz tso. Single action and more bang for your buck if you're looking for comp gun. Out of box a better gun for same price if not cheaper

[@joshuakazfields4374]

I have the Shadow 2 and TSO along with the Q5 SF. I can tell you hammer fired is just a bit nicer then striker fire.

[@briang.7097]

I have fired both. Q5 & Shawdow 2. With a view of buying the Q5. For the money, I am going with the Shadow 2. I am a Walther kinda guy. Got 4 of them. But CZ it's going to be for the value

[@jefferyfarr6542]

It is a match barrel. Built to handle 9mm majors.

[@humorss]

this is priced the same as cz tactical sports orange, hope the price come down a bit in the future, weather are usually affordable and as good as HKs

[@KSGunGuy01]

I agree completely! Thank you and cheers!

[@BigJohnsonGG]

Nice Review On The SF, Way too much $ for what it is. They also should have made it a full size grip length. TFS Carry On

[@KSGunGuy01]

It’s high dollar for sure brother! Thank you and cheers!

[@ivanspanko8160]

I'm not a fan of this "skeleton" slide cuts... But i have a gun for protection, not for competition. I would like to See steel version of 4" classic PPQ - but the grip and gun looks great 👍🏼👍🏼

[@KSGunGuy01]

They have a steel 4 inch

[@ivanspanko8160]

@@KSGunGuy01 Wow you are right Thank you for the Info ☝🏼👍🏼

[@wizardofahhhs759]

It's hard for me to believe that the Q5 is any more accurate than the regular PPQ, it is nicer looking though.

[@cantdriveslo]

I just purchased one and it appears that they've stopped including the red dot mounting plate and have opted to allow the purchaser to order 1 complementary base plate. Pretty cheesy for them to do this for the price point in my opinion

[@TheHanshotfirst]

Owe you an apology. Watched this prior to my purchase & thought you were exaggerating about the beavertail. Wow, you really weren't kidding. After only 150 rounds & a bloodied hand I'm seriously considering taking Walther up on their return policy.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Great review. I have the Q4 and added the mag well. But my triggers are better in my Glock 17 and Canik SFX both are heavy modded where the Q4 is stock. I think this should be $1000 and not $1600.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much! I completely agree that this should probably have landed around $1000, especially considering the other options out there. Cheers!

[@rosiebear8085]

Fair price IMO 1,200 +/- for no mag well. They are new to the market so they cost 1350.00 or more price for no mag well. Price will drop over time.

[@eroystermd827]

Love mine....love it.

[@T.A.B.Videos]

Nice looking pistol, to pricey for me,

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thanks Trees! I totally understand and many others have said the same. Cheers brother!

[@glenborth3797]

Great review wanted a good German performance gun is the raised mag release needed or is profound and you want miss it on a quick mag change just curious going to yry the trigger but the black diamond version has the dynamic upgrade trigger

[@JoseNunya]

Shame you did not mention the specs for/on barrel.

[@seanrock8717]

Your issue with reset is what i would've preferred im my ppq. i had a lot of unintended double taps at the range. this his trigger would seem to remedy that. just an opinion.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Very interesting! Thank you and cheers!

[@azvoltmanphoenix446]

Cool intro shenanigans

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you and cheers!

[@joquin4618]

Great review ks!Dang.... my tax return may not cover all the guns I wanna buy !!!! So..... “if you could only have one...... “ video anytime soon!?!?!?

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you very much Jo! Yes, there will be an “If I Could Only Have One” coming for this. Should be very interesting. Cheers!

[@MrTattooed81]

Mine has a 2 and a half lbs trigger I changed the trigger spring and the striker block spring and put blue loc grips on it

[@ChrisB-zz8dh]

Would like to have this gun but $1750! Not sure about that!!

[@jrshort138]

I believe we need a "dance off" with the CZ TSO........

[@KSGunGuy01]

That would be very interesting! Thank you and cheers!

[@wassimmatta8390]

If you have a choice between the TSO and this one which would you pick? Nice review!

[@jrshort138]

LOL...my comment was from a cost perspective as I wish I could afford either! I do shoot with several who have the 75 & the Shadow 2 (TSO’s little bro) & those guys love them & have shot both. The Shadow 2 is a very very nice pistol so I think the bar would be raised with the TSO. I’ve also shot the Q5 Poly & it is a very nice gun; it gets raves for its trigger which is smooth but I do not like the long take up.

[@rosiebear8085]

The pro version is close in price. The TSO would win -no contest.

[@SteveMiles]

TSO hands down winner.

[@virgjr.9123]

Great review. Very informative. I am really interested in getting the Q5 Match SF but I am always skeptical with those first productions. Are there going to be vast improvements on it down the line? Lower pricing? Better/more accessories? While for me the price is not an issue, what is an issue is the fact that I live in NJ and one of the perks turns into an additional headache. The mags have to be modified to 10 rounds which increases the price...THAT is an issue. Also, I was initially going towards the Shadow 2 but I am definitely more of a Walther fan. Decisions, decisions...

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thank you! I think this one is pretty safe since it's really a modified version of a well established gun, the PPQ. I do agree that the mag modifying is unfortunate. As for the Shadow 2.... tough to go wrong there! Thank you and cheers!

[@rosiebear8085]

One + point for the Shadow 2 is you can buy MEC gar magazines10 round for 18.00 bucks too.

[@virgjr.9123]

@@rosiebear8085 thanks for that info

[@mistamef87]

In Norway the taxes and import cost pushes this up to 2800 dollars which puts it in a shit ton of other really high end pistols around here.. I can get a sig sauer X series for that amount of cash.. Killed my enthusiasm on the spot..

[@mistamef87]

By comparison the cost of a cz shadow 2 is 1584 USD sooo i would Just get a shadow 2

[@ckim6400]

@@mistamef87 I paid $1199 plus tax USD so $1295 for Shadow 2

[@KSGunGuy01]

Wow! That’s a big difference for sure. Thank you and cheers!

[@kevcom82]

This gun vs Sig P320 X5. Would be interested in your opinion between these two. Great review.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Great question and tough to choose as both are great. I may lean towards the x5 due to cost and weight. That said, the Q5 would probably out shoot the x5 in many peoples hands due to the steel frame weight and lighter trigger. Thank you and cheers!

[@DaveandDebe]

kevcom82 Sig P320 X5 is plastic and way overpriced.no comparison to a full steel gun.

[@toddmayta7615]

X5 is nearly half the price of the Q5 SF. X5 has weight built into the grip so it's heavier than a plastic q5 but lighter than the q5 sf. It's right in the middle between the two...... you would have to get the gray guns competition trigger for the x5 so that's another $125ish. Then it will be more comparable to the ppq trigger.

[@DaveandDebe]

@@toddmayta7615 your in the Shadow 2 price range then. I hate the X5 plastic gun. The Shadow 2 blows it away and is all steel. I would take a plastic Q5 over the X5 every time. No contest. My friend did work to his X 5 and I did some work to My Shadow 2 for very close and price and it's a joke the Shadow 2 blows it away for $450 less than the Walther Q5 Match SF.

[@frankhellman6879]

Comparing it to my own PPQ (M1), I would say that the Q5 firing pin & safety, barrel & spring design, as well as the entire trigger mechanism are near exact duplicates. Maybe they tweaked the trigger pull & recoil spring ever so slightly, but I think once you have 1000 rounds through it, the Q5 firing mechanisms will be exactly like the PPQ line. That's not a bad thing. Also, the Q5 doesn't have that huge safety lever like the Shadow. The PPQ and many other Walthers are typically well thought out and styled (there are exceptions). The only other fault I can see is the Q5 grips are quite bulbous. But they are replaceable. However, the Q5 price, the fact that the Shadow has a significant lead and is a spectacular shooter (so I'm told) will make it difficult for Walther to turn this comp pistol into a big win against that CZ. PS - Glad you had luck trimming the bear claw (beaver tail), KS. It's clearly not up to Walther's usual design standards in my view. To wide, sharp edges...no. Still, better than too small. Have a good one.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Good points Frank! I do agree that the Shadow will be difficult to unseat. We shall see how that goes. As for the beaver tail, it’s the only major disappointment aside from the price. Thank you and cheers!

[@CZFanGrrl]

Frank Hellman The huge safety lever is actually an option. All of my Shadows came stock with the low profile safety. Apparently some people like the extended safety because it reminds them of a 1911. I say go buy yourself a 1911 then to those folks, lol.

[@frankhellman6879]

@@CZFanGrrl - Good point. I was only thinking in terms of a large safety being an annoyance in carry positions. Having the option is good.

[@CZFanGrrl]

Frank Hellman I completely agree!

[@killacoiler1707]

I haven't shot a competition in almost 20 years so for me to warrant spending nearly 2K on a pistol too large to conceal and too heavy to want to carry is not going to happen at this point now if I were to take up competition shooting again that would be a different story but then I would buy a Sig P-210 single action 9mm it is about the smoothest running firearm I have ever shot in my life and roughly what the CZ-75 is based off of just not in DA/SA not knocking Walther in any way but I prefer a hammer fired pistol for competition shooting and to be honest I prefer to run with iron sights and RMR free only because that is how I learned and it is familiar not that I wouldn't appreciate the option that the Q5 offers it is a great looking pistol that is generously equipped just not my cup of tea

[@KSGunGuy01]

Very well said Coiler! I do agree that there are some amazing options at this price point or even a little cheaper. Thank you and cheers!

[@boomee78]

You got it quick

[@KSGunGuy01]

I got lucky for once, lol. Thank you and cheers!

[@rogerj412]

I prefer the Canik TP9SFx. so much so that I bought one. I'd love for you to do a comparison between the two.

[@KSGunGuy01]

I did review the TP9SFX and it’s a great gun for sure. Thank you and cheers!

[@zackzittel7683]

You shot both and that was your decision!?

[@zackzittel7683]

Q5> anything canik makes. The trigger is light years better than the canik and mechanical accuracy is better too. Mine does sub 1” groups at 25yds from a rest....

[@cahsahhhhhhhn]

Yea the SFX is a great deal but it’s a totally different class of gun

[@rogerj412]

@@cahsahhhhhhhn How so? They are both factory competition guns that shoot will and are reliable.

[@wmtruelock]

Good looking gun, higher capacity mags for comp guns should be standard, at least 20 rnd plus.

[@KSGunGuy01]

Yes I do agree with that! Thank you and cheers!

[@exxonv1719]

KSGunGuy - how goes it? I was wondering how the muzzle flip is on this compared to the Shadow 2? I owned a polymer PPQ M2 5" before, loved the ergonomics - the trigger was great too. I didn't care for the muzzle flip and sold it - using the funds for a Shadow 2 :). I love the Shadow 2 (highlight it quite a bit on my channel) and wondered how you felt about the two pistols in comparison since they are both aimed at the competition market. THANKS!

[@KSGunGuy01]

I'll be doing a feature comparison between the two very soon! Thank you and cheers!

[@glockoholics7512]

SWEET! 😍

[@KSGunGuy01]

Thanks GB! Cheers brother!

[@UncleDanBand64]

That's a lot of $

[@KSGunGuy01]

I do agree Dan! Thank you and cheers!

[@zhukie]

@@KSGunGuy01 Almost 3K in Australia lol

[@medicmike4906]

And it is a lot of pistol.

[@UncleDanBand64]

@@medicmike4906 yes it is

[@Srbandara]

Not from a gun ownership country (UK) so not sure what a competition gun means? Can someone please clarify what competition means and how military guns differ to competition guns? Thanks

[@AdamRK78]

Competition guns are basically target guns (think pistol shooting for the Olympics but with "regular" calibre rounds, e.g. 9mm) and are built for speed and accuracy but less practical outside competition shooting. They're made heavier (usually with an all steel construction) because the gun will jump around (recoil) less due to inertia when you fire it meaning you can reacquire the target faster. Plus they have a lighter trigger pull which increases accuracy. For military guns you want less weight (lower half of the frame which comprises of the handle and trigger assembly, etc made out of lighter polymer) because carrying around a heavy secondary weapon like a pistol will get tiresome (remember you need to carry ammunition, etc as well!) and they generally have heavier trigger pulls to reduce the likelihood of accidental firing (negligent discharge). The main exception to this is the 1911 pistol.

[@chrisg4578]

Is the poly version worth 800? $1500 is a lot and really dont want to spend the extra buy the steel does look better

[@Themayseffect]

why do you need the pro model for the 17rd mags? don't they work in the "standard" frame? Can't you just buy them separately?