Walther Reign VS Walther RM8 - Which air rifle is better?

[@southwestshooters]

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[@vincentenglish8489]

Late to the party on this, humble apologies. I have 3 RM8s, a traditional wood stock, a black soft touch stock, and a UC thumbhole. All shoot with lazer accuracy out to 50m (even further on a good day) with the right pellet. I've tried all types of pellets and found JSB 8.44, hades and jumbo heavies are truly excellent. One hole group under a 5p no dramas. Both of a long rifles have non auto safety whilst the UC has an annoying auto. Theres a reason I own 3, it's because I like reminding the Daystate and HW shooters at the range that all 3 cost less than their single rifle but can out shoot or match them accuracy wise...😉😁

[@jeffedillor7952]

Very happy with your honest review. I'm from the Philippines. Before I was about to buy a reign 22cal. But at that time I still lack the money to buy it. So when I return after a week it is already sold out and I was left with a rm8 varmint. I decided to have the rm8 but always thinking of the reign. Finally I'm happy to know that it's a good choice that I had that instead of my first choice which is reign. Thanks guy will follow your videos.

[@lukefloorwalker1665]

Good review by the way, looks like you had a good day for it!

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you Luke. Yes, it was a good day!

[@garyrgjoutdoors5325]

i totally love my reign in .177 try it with a bipod it is pellet fussy mine loves the jsb exact heavy i love the look and the balance but im a short guy so may not suit a taller man/woman great review

[@southwestshooters]

Gary. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment on our video. We love your suggestions and will certainly look into this! Take care!

[@barrybaker5502]

Have the reign in .177 myself i love it . Using jsb exact . Bagging lots of bushy tails .

[@jimcarter2590]

Love my RM8. had it 3 years. Out-performs many other way more expensive rifles in terms of accuracy but is a bit on the heavy side, especially with a 10-50x60 slapped on top...bit of a bark as well.

[@southwestshooters]

Yes - its a wonderful rifle! I have read some negative comments about it, but I don't think some people really know what they are talking about sometimes, they haven't actually owned the rifle! Yes, its a touch heavy, but it shoots really well! Thank you for the comment!

[@andybeckett4480]

Interesting review. I own both of these rifles in .177, and shoot them regularly over my own 40m range. I enjoy them both. I do tend to get more consistent groups from the RM8. I tend to put this down to the lighter weight of the Reign it took me a while to get accustomed to this and the Bullpup format. I've been shooting Air Arms 8.44 diabolo fields in both. I really should experiment with other pellets to see what happens. Incidentally as it's a back garden range I use silencers on both rifles. For the benefit of Luke below, I have an older RM8 Varmint - it doesn't have the auto-safety feature, you have to set it manually.

[@LindsayImms]

Do you take all those clamps and tests and cushions when you go hunting??

[@monvermincontrol8454]

I own both and for the record the Reign is consistently more accurate and far outperforms the RM8 when it comes to utility. Lighter, fully ambidextrous, better action, better magazine, more convenient safety and easier to maintain. Not much change with the Mark Ii but heavier barrel and as a result even more accurate. The Reign is a fun turn to gun, more so than my FXs, and is beyond comparison with the RM8.

[@cl_foto]

Your mates finger position was off, not using the tip of the finger to shoot with, but rather the flabby bit 😂 I prefer the RM8 also, just picked one up yesterday and liking it. I’m used to £1000/£2000 plus rifles but the Walther holds its own, and no I’m not the one sending you death threats 😂(guy at the bus stop from the shooting show) 👍🏻

[@josephpeters2367]

2 great guns

[@RatSpetsnaz1967]

Ive got the RM8 uc in .177...top little rifle..i hope they put a side lever on the left handside like the Reign has. Think that would be a great next generation upgrade to the RM8 series.👍

[@southwestshooters]

Yep. 100 percent agree.... And a bigger magazine!

[@RatSpetsnaz1967]

Bigger magazine for sure. Thanks for the reply. All the best

[@psethna8917]

Nice review. As you say maybe the stand you were using favoured the RM8 over the Reign. But overall, the results are “concerning” when one considers the price difference between the two guns: the Reign being the much more expensive of the two. The groups were also unexceptional at such close range, but perhaps this was down to it being a windy day. My own RM8 shoots well and comes close in to my Weihrauch HW100K in terms of accuracy and grouping. However, based upon personal experience the Walther RM8 is an unreliable gun, and I’ve experienced leaks with two of them. One immediately upon purchase and another after only a few months of light use. For that reason, I personally wouldn’t buy anything but a Weihrauch from now on. You get what you pay for.

[@jodyhiatt5284]

I’m waiting on my Walter reign I like the lightness of the bull pup

[@southwestshooters]

Then you will love it. The lightest gun I've used!

[@lukefloorwalker1665]

Have both of them. Love them. H&N Field target trophy work really well in either. Love the style of both, Reign wins as a hunter as so on point - just points so easy... it is light - so takes some practice with your shooting style... and copes well with the wet. Both are capable of one hole work. Only annoying thing about the RM8 is the auto safety, initially set up for a thumb up shooting grip, it’s a bit of a faff with the thumb hole stock which doesn’t allow this grip.

[@southwestshooters]

Excellent suggestion regarding the pellets. We will give them a try in the future. Take care!

[@garneredge]

Yer keep them coming ❤

[@justinhurst9402]

My reign has the picatinny rail and silencer.. maybe it's a later model. It's the 22. But mine shoots groups like the 1st gun at 34 yards with the atn x sight. The jsb jumbo 18 grain is the only pellet it shoots that consistently with from what I have found so far. Have not had a flier with the jsb yet and they came from Amazon so the pellets are not even in that great of condition but still group like that first gun.

[@southwestshooters]

I believe you have the mk2? But it also sounds like you really like this version too. The "secret gun group" video on the channel was actually shot using the reign, using 7.3 grain jsb. At 40 meters too. I guess it's a little bit of luck sometimes? Every gun I've used occasionally has fliers. Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video.

[@justinhurst9402]

@@southwestshooters I enjoyed the video, I'm just getting into pcp shooting. The gun I have is the reign utx, I guess they have some slight differences but overall the same I believe. I have only put about 50 shots through it with the jsb jumbo, I'm sure I'll get a flier pretty soon. It did not like the h@n or the Benjamin pellets at all. I had alot of fliers and inconsistent shots and groups with those other two pellets lol. The jumbo works beautifully though. But I'm shooting the 22 so I shouldn't compare the groups. That first gun in the video that was shot is definitely impressive.

[@OH8STN]

Excellent video with the exception of the video resolution. High-resolution please👍

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you for your constructive feedback. Yes, this was our first video.... Things have improved considerably since this one. Take care!

[@autorizeduser9876]

good review

[@southwestshooters]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@evronaldo.9220]

Make a video of Air Venturi Avenger.177 vs any high quality pcp

[@southwestshooters]

Will try to get one and see what we can do!

[@evronaldo.9220]

@@southwestshooters ok can't wait to see thanks for your reply

[@stefan12z]

Good job. What kind of scope was mounted on the reign? Greetings from Poland.

[@southwestshooters]

It's an Optisan EVX. Hello Rafal from Poland! Lovely to hear from you.

[@dessieb123]

fantastic video thanks, what would you consider as to buying a starter set scope/gun etc for around £500 cheers

[@southwestshooters]

Excellent question. Without a doubt, the RM8 and any scope you can get to begin with if you are looking for a pcp. Give Cliff at Okehampton Gun a call, tell him you found out about him through our videos and he will sort you out. He will be able to do a package deal. Take care!

[@dessieb123]

@@southwestshooters thank you for the reply i'll be in touch with them soon, keep up the great videos

[@grahamedwards9920]

A fair and predictable result but I’ve been shooting the Reign for quite some time and it’s “a keeper”. In fact because I’m almost exclusively a hunter and because of the way I hunt I wouldn’t consider a full length rifle although I enjoy shooting them. Out in the field the short compact dimensions and it’s ultra light weight make it my go to gun if a sub 12ftlb 177 is needed. If more is needed I use a 30ftlbs Wildcat in .22. I’ve got the AA tdk + Dreamline compact in sub 12ftlb but the Reign is still my favourite. Personal likes and dislikes are always a major factor. I suppose at 6’ 2 and 70yrs of age I should leaning towards conventional air rifles but I think as a gangly 14yr old my beloved 2nd hand Airsporter always had one major flaw -size and an unscoped weight of 8lbs. I’ve found the Reign a brilliant little rifle now that size and weight are again becoming an issue. I think Walther are very much under appreciated whatever model you choose. Good video.

[@southwestshooters]

Dear Sir. Thank you so much for your thoughts. You clearly have a good taste in guns! Although neither of us hunt, we did reason the reign would be perfect for those that do. Question : is the reign your favourite ever rifle?

[@grahamedwards9920]

Wow! That’s an impossible one. Over 70yrs I’ve had at least 9 different FAC air rifles. The one I liked least was a Weihrauch that was long enough to punt with and weighed more than a small car. It wasn’t exceptional in terms of power/accuracy or reliability and went back to the dealership more than once. AA supplied an FAC model that I liked, Daystate sorted me the most beautifully stocked Huntsman that was too pretty to use at the farms but they were all out shot by a BSA R10 tuned by John Bowkett. But I suppose my Mk1 Wildcat that I’ve had for a few years is the best all round FAC rifles I’ve owned. As for sub 12 springers then In terms of nostalgia the battered old early model Airsporter of my youth wins hands down even though it’s no match for current guns the best (most accurate) of which I found to be a 177 Walther Terrus. Precharged sub 12? I enjoyed the 2 BSA Ultras I’ve owned but in terms of sheer usability in the field the Reign + the Dreamline are hard to beat. All of the guns were bought new and many of them “ fettled” by the experts of the time. I’ve no idea how many I’ve owned and all of it is just personal opinion and experience and probably quite boring.

[@southwestshooters]

@@grahamedwards9920 that was the most wonderful comment. Wow. You have had some fantastic guns. So interesting to hear your stories, especially regarding the wild cat.... Thes look amazing rifles, especially the mk3....but it's also nice to hear how good the r10 is. Was the r10 an fac?

[@grahamedwards9920]

southwest shooters - yes, the R10 was a 177, bought new as an FAC, and then taken by me to John Bowkett for him to work his magic. He had been the chief designer/engineer or something like that at the BSA works in Birmingham. He’d told me I’d chosen the wrong calibre for FAC but the gun was deadly accurate if somewhat pellet fussy. The gun wasn’t as

[@grahamedwards9920]

Southwestshooters - the gun wasn’t as heavy as it looked but in the relentless search for the perfect gun I parted with it and bought the next new thing which may have been a Daystate Regal or was that the one before the R10?🤔😆. Anyway, enjoyed your video.

[@leenorris2862]

Hi, I've got a rotex rm8, like it alot but heavy for me , im looking to upgrade with a budget , any recommendations

[@southwestshooters]

Hi Lee. Yes. A second hand Bsa Ultra. I love these guns and they are superb. Perhaps consider selling the rm8 for one? Other suggestions... Gamo gx40. Fx typhoon. Best of luck.

[@leenorris2862]

@@southwestshooters like bsa scorpion se , but gamo is a down grade . If had no budget, I'd get a fx maverick but thinks it a waste in sub 12ftlbs.

[@lauraeeee]

@@leenorris2862 I understand where you are coming from. I also remember the gx40 being very heavy too.... I'm not a fan of FX guns other than the mk3 impact, which looks cool. In terms of an upgrade I think you'd also like a hw100. Or a 110. Or the bull pup. Awesome guns.

[@leenorris2862]

@@lauraeeee like the hw110 carbine , but keep hearing it has power issues,

[@robertfuller8445]

It looks like you are using the wrong scope. Ian was sighting from the back of the stock, not the cheek pad. Obviously a shorter eye relief needed.

[@southwestshooters]

Dear Robert, thank you for your constructive comment. This was very early in our shooting journey. I am sure our more recent videos are a little better!

[@alantippett7602]

From my observations from watching this video it appears to me that your conclusions about both guns are fair. I much prefer the look of traditional rifles also.

[@southwestshooters]

Alan, do you prefer the feel and handling of traditional rifles? I think there are bull pups that handle well. We have the hw100 bp to review soon, and I've used it extensively...its a fantastic rifle! I guess the reign might be a little too short? Still, would be good for hunting!

[@alantippett7602]

@@southwestshooters unfortunately, I haven't had the opportunity to try a bull pup yet, but obviously they must have their advantages. The hw100bp does look nice and having owned Weihrauch rifles, I'm on my second, I would expect them to be very good indeed.

[@southwestshooters]

@@alantippett7602 which model do you have?

[@alantippett7602]

@@southwestshooters I had a hw80 when they first came out in 1980, unfortunately I sold it 6 years later. When I returned to airgunning 3 years ago, I bought hw99 which I have tuned up to shoot more sweetly. This has been great in the lockdown as my divers bottle for my pcp is very low on air, and I have been able to carry on shooting at home. I'm going to a new gun club to have a look at their grounds next Saturday prior to them being able to resume shooting soon. They're just outside Truro in Cornwall.

[@southwestshooters]

@@alantippett7602 we don't really have much experience shooting springers, but this is something we want to do. Is it an indoor range?

[@janivarsrvaag5137]

it s an amaising groupp tums upp

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you.

[@RamonQuiroz-x4h]

Por favor descripción en español gracias.

[@WOLKEN123]

Te mueves mucho para hacer una prueba consistente. También la cámara. Tambien hay viento. No sirve esa comparación.

[@martinsmith49]

My RM8 was sticky to load to start with, but after much use is now quite smooth. Would love it to be a side lever

[@southwestshooters]

We totally agree! And yes, the RM8 is getting easier to use. Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[@gosbeskidu1929]

Definitely Rm8.

[@michaelbritain5546]

Took me tins of JSB, AA, to find out nothing shoots as well as RWS Superdomes in my RM8, which is great at £14 for 1000. 🤣

[@MrOldways]

Try a little less finger on the trigger. ;)

[@rogerparker9228]

Ive had bullpups and i cant shoot em for shit lol. Im 6ft2 and the bulpups are too short and i hate them. Ive got the varmint and its amazingly accurate.

[@southwestshooters]

Good man.....the Varmint is a good gun. Please check out my latest video. I'm big too.... But the renegade is a fantastic bull pup.

[@rogerparker9228]

@@southwestshooters i find im moving all over with a bullpup. No confidence with them at all. But down to preference

[@southwestshooters]

@@rogerparker9228 fair play! What's your favourite rifle then?

[@rogerparker9228]

@@southwestshooters the r10. Biggest regret selling it. I do like a gun with some weight to it. Had a 100kt and struggled with that too. I think it was too light

[@southwestshooters]

@@rogerparker9228 excellent taste. Both wonderful, quality, guns. I've shot the r10 and liked it, but I've got lots of history with the hw100.... A super gun that I also miss sometimes! You must be a strong chap, I didn't find the hw100 light, not at all.

[@hectorhtaylor]

Why are you wearing a cap and a hood. Kinell…

[@jamesbowskill362]

Just save yourselves lots of wasted time...........Just get a FX Maverick .25 FAC firing ZAN 33grn slugs at 980/1000fps via 65fpe......All the airgun you will ever need.

[@trevoror8668]

Yeah it's that easy NOT!!! In the uk

[@trevoror8668]

Why use superdome pellets when you can use far FAR better and the level of your skill is low at best

[@LindsayImms]

How can you say you’re shooting well when your rifle is in a clamp??😂

[@jacquesffouche1488]

My lgv shoots better that that to 40yrds😄

[@southwestshooters]

Good man!