Daystate Redwolf vs Walther Rotex RM8 - 20 Meter Test.

Welcome to our first video.
Here we have some fun shooting with the Daystate Redwolf and the Walther Rotex RM8.
There will be more videos to come in the future and if there are any guns or challenges you would like to see then please get in touch.
Ian shot very well today.

[@southwestshooters]

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[@barrybebb5365]

Double shots happen many times with mine also so u was spot on when two next to each other was on target

[@amazingantsmb1028]

Depends of people. Got my rm8 .177 year now and no problem with cocking it and my groups are spot on 20 meters. I can cut matches easy And got it all with bipod and scope for 300 second ✋ happy days for the price

[@southwestshooters]

Excellent purchase.

[@garymarshall7809]

Chris. ... I believe the double hole created by your 5th shot was rebound exit holes ..... if you watch carefully the holes appear after the impact sound.... in my head anyway lol..... love the vids .. keep em coming

[@southwestshooters]

Gary. Very kind of you! We may never know the story behind that shot.... But I can tell you that there is something HUMAngus dropping on Friday. There might even be a long distance comparison between an air arms and a red wolf..... But I couldn't possibly say anything. 😏

[@garymarshall7809]

@@southwestshooters I'm defo going with rebound exit holes I've watched again a couple of times and the holes defo appear after the impact noise ..... I'll keep my eyes peeled on Friday in eager anticipation ... thanks for speedy reply.

[@airgunsharpshooter4889]

Hilarious how you were shooting both guns differently. The rm8 got support at the front, but was shouldered at the rear... The read wolf didn't even need holding, the front and rear of your rest was supporting the whole gun. This video is nearly as funny as the last one I stumbled across of yours, when you were doing an accuracy test on a windy day.

[@southwestshooters]

Yeah. We are funny guys. Shame we are actually trying to do something! Glad to hear that you liked this video.

[@nickreestearsofaclown4661]

Rm8 can double load if you hesitate and pull back and then foward on the bolt.

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you! Yes. Chris really was not too good on this one. He really needs to calm down.....Thank you for your message.

[@Danny_Transition_Patrol]

If you cock the bolt on the RM8 too quick you might not go all the way back, best way to do it is little slower and firmly, I have the RM8 Ultra Compact, great rifle for the money and I get some great groupings with it. I find best pellets are the JSB Heavy’s for .177, the 10.34 grain ones. Give them a try.

[@southwestshooters]

@@Danny_Transition_Patrol really? That heavy?! I'll order a set.

[@Danny_Transition_Patrol]

@@southwestshooters yeah the Exact Heavy Diablo’s, they’re great through the RM8 UC

[@dannyross4884]

Good work enjoyed it . Should add chrono figures and pellet choice in the next video

[@southwestshooters]

That's a good idea. We will look into this for our future content. Thank you for the comment.

[@glynnewton5293]

sorry mate, what pellets we're you using. My RM8 at 20m matches the red wolf using AA field diabolo. Have you cleaned the barrel recently and leaded it in?

[@southwestshooters]

Do you own both guns?

[@rogerward9492]

Are you using the same scopes, what make of scopes are you using. Interesting video.

[@jongraves1262]

Just got myself a second hand RM8 .22 had three up the spout, very easily done don't beat yourself up, What calibre were they, Guessing 177 as grain weight was 8.44 ? Would love to see a RM8 service / strip down tutorial as there doesn't seem to be one out there, Cheers and good job well done, I never knew Louis Theroux could shoot so well ;)

[@southwestshooters]

Jon, thank you for taking the time to comment. Yes, we really only own 177 guns. We don't really have the technical knowledge yet to do a service tutorial for the RM8 yet.....but if anything happens in the future we will look into doing one. I'm working on my next BBC documentary....on air rifles, so it's important I can shoot.

[@ej7447]

Just a thought.....a Workmate 400 (basic model) portable work table makes a solid, sturdy rest if you add a suitable width and length piece of say 2 inch thick lumber.....

[@dawiddadun3044]

Good effort for your first video lads. I enjoyed it and it was a good concept I've not seen before...trying each others rifles. I've never shot an rm8 but every video I've seen on it the shooter seems to have to force the bolt a bit. Can't be good for the pellet. Maybe an experiment with a single shot tray could be an idea for another video? Anyway, good luck with your channel lads.

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you sir. Yes. These are great suggestions. Chris is actually planning a video exploring this using the RW as he has a tray with it....but Ian, as of yet, does not have one for the RM8. On our other video Chris did a little look at using different weight pellets at 50 (ish) meters....please have a look at that if you get the chance. There will be more videos soon.

[@dawiddadun3044]

Yep will do, definitely. I've seen comments on various forums about the notchy bolt on the rm8 and most point to the magazine rather than the bolt itself. Apparently the teeth on the mag need to be kept spotlessly clean or it doesn't quite rotate properly.

[@southwestshooters]

@@dawiddadun3044 Very interesting. I think there is truth to this. We will investigate in our next shooting session...perhaps a more robust mag would be prudent. We will look into this.....a single shot tray is in the future for sure!

[@dawiddadun3044]

I'd be very interested in your findings on this. I've been tempted by the rm8 uc which is why I was reading the forums. Its certainly a good looking gun and I agree with what you were saying about the synthetic stock. Me & my lad both have a bsa ultra with the synthetic stock & they're bombproof.

[@southwestshooters]

@@dawiddadun3044 I have used both the 177 and 22 Ultras.....they are fantastic guns. The RM8 is heavier to hold....by quite some margin, but the truth is they are both good guns. I don't think you'd be disappointed if you picked up an rm8, if you buy used make sure its shooting at the correct power. Other than that you should be golden. Let us know what you decide to do!

[@craigmcgee77]

Seen a video with the Walther at 68 yards hitting a 6mm dot on a windy day so sold on that idea my money is going on a full kit love the videos keep up the good work fact is cheaper air rifles can now be on par with more expensive ones like gamo using BSA barrels and Walther has a lot of gun making experience so yes my money is going German end of . Keep up the good work and fun stay safe safety is important .

[@gruffydd1000]

Good luck with that.

[@RICHARDROLLINSONDESIGNPHOTOGRA]

I am looking to get my first air rifle and have been thinking about the Rotex RM8, all of the videos I’ve seen show it to be a good rifle for the money, what do you think?

[@southwestshooters]

Dear Rich, I think this would be a fantastic first air rifle. It hits the sweet spot between affordability, quality, accuracy and it also looks awesome! I honestly don't think you will go wrong, they are such good guns. Please ask any other questions! I'd be happy to help.

[@nasserisback488]

did you get the Rm8? i own the wood stock version and so far found it faultless

[@RICHARDROLLINSONDESIGNPHOTOGRA]

nasser is back yeah I got one with the black stock and love it, got a reasonably good scope. Glad you’re enjoying yours too :)

[@SwiSs-SHooter]

hi guys , wich diabolos do you use for the shooting ?

[@southwestshooters]

Hello Alfie - we were using the 8.44 grain Diabolos.

[@ootahbeefz5501]

🔥group with the DRW.

[@southwestshooters]

Hell yes. It's a fantastic rifle. Have you used one before?

[@ootahbeefz5501]

@@southwestshooters Yea. There nice especially the midnight.

[@southwestshooters]

@@ootahbeefz5501 you have excellent taste!

[@jerrywarren6959]

Try comparing two top end guns , daystate and fx would be far more interesting and a much fairer meaningful exercise

[@ootahbeefz5501]

@@jerrywarren6959 some people don’t wanna spend Daystate or FX money. Gotta let them know less expensive rifles are just as good sometimes even better.

[@bunkaaa8726]

What pellets were you using in this test ? Other 20 meter tests with the rotex (some in your channel) had insanely good groupings compared to this, granted the double load but still..

[@southwestshooters]

I can't remember, but truth be told this was really before we understood the art of pellet choice, and our shooting has improved too.

[@bunkaaa8726]

@@southwestshooters Yes, its almost a black magic really !

[@tommyram9839]

Great video lads, enjoyed the comparison and info on he guns

[@lauraeeee]

You are very welcome. Thanks for the message!

[@darrengoodale6854]

How much difference in price

[@monvermincontrol8454]

Let's see Red Wolf v Reign MII pls. RM8 not in the frame I'm afraid.

[@mythgreatbritain5634]

You were not even holding the redwolf. It was like a fixed mount.

[@johnmc7587]

Are some of what you thought were double shots not ricochet?

[@southwestshooters]

That is certainly a possibility! We didn't think that at the time, but they could certainly be.

[@johnmc7587]

@@southwestshooters Hi. It seems a possibility because some of your shots you can see bursting through the card top right of target which certainly are ricochet.

[@jacquesffouche1488]

Looks like the walther springers are just better than their pcp's.

[@southwestshooters]

True dat.

[@keithargent9680]

clean your barrel on the rm8

[@andrewjackson2683]

How come nobody noticed Chris's shots after 7.03 were landing at the top right of the target .... slap his legs :)

[@andrewjackson2683]

And the same for Ian @ 14.17 :O

[@johnmc7587]

That's ricochet the pellet rebounding upwards and out

[@1975supermike]

That safety on the rm8 is a joke. Put me right off buying one.

[@jerrywarren6959]

Absolutely absurd and pointless comparisons. Why would you choose a £400 budget air rifle to compare to a gun probably getting on for five times the price totally ridiculous guys please get a grip . Compare a red wolf with a top end FX would be far more interesting and a lot more meaningful.

[@southwestshooters]

We disagree with you about this. Although you can choose to look at it this way, the alternative is to understand that the RM8 is actually quite close, in terms of accuracy. Besides, I've never owned an FX for long enough without it developing a fault to get a proper look at the gun. Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[@brianwest5348]

@@southwestshooters I agree with you. Also some of us like to see the differences between higher and lower cost guns. Valuable information to some of us. Only suggestion, is to use the pellets that each gun shoots best, since you own the guns and probably know. Keep up the good work.

[@southwestshooters]

@@brianwest5348 thank you Brian. We are always evolving, if you look at our latest video on the Galahad, you will see things have improved a lot over the last few months. Please consider subscribing if you enjoy the videos.

[@jasonlangley579]

What a waste of time comparing these two guns 👎 pointless

[@southwestshooters]

Hello Jason! Thanks for the comment - why do you think it's pointless?

[@jasonlangley579]

@@southwestshooters well considering one is a £500 gun and the other being over £1000 what were you expecting? I would rather see guns that are similar in price 👍

[@southwestshooters]

@@jasonlangley579 that is certainly one way of looking at it Jason! However, the other way, and this is what we choose to do, is to see the RM8 as exceptional value for money! The RW is over 2000 pounds, the RM8 is 440 pounds. I don't believe that Red Wolf is worth the extra 1500 pounds.....Still, we really appreciate your comment! Thank you for taking the time to contact us.

[@stemc83]

It was like comparing a Audi to an Astra.

[@stemc83]

@@southwestshooters agreed. This wasn't really front and centre of the video. It did look a little bit like you were using a 2 grand rifle to make a 400 quid rifle look like a double loading piece of junk.

[@gruffydd1000]

Used a new rm8 for half an hour and got 3 misfires where the magazine didn't index on cocking. Not a good gun for me at all.

[@southwestshooters]

Dang. That really isn't good!