Does a Wah Pedal Sound Better Before or After Distortion?

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7 жыл бұрын

In this video I'm discussing wah pedal placement. I'll show you some sound examples and you make the decision for yourself. Me personally? I like it before distortion. I'm using a Vox Wah and a Boss DS-1 distortion. Why the DS-1 and not a Wampler? Because I don't want these videos to be a commercial for Wampler stuff. My goal is to bring YOU value, and provide content that helps you regardless of whether you buy our pedals or not. Enjoy the video, and leave a comment below if you'd like. Also - if you do enjoy the video or find value in it, will you share the link?

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@Xianpaul0523
@Xianpaul0523 3 жыл бұрын
"Why not put the wah pedal after the wah pedal?" -Kirk
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 2 жыл бұрын
“Why not put a 3rd wah on the amp mic” - Also Kirk
@ShaunTrillo
@ShaunTrillo 2 жыл бұрын
100
@josh_ari
@josh_ari 2 жыл бұрын
Duh, because you put the wah before the wah.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
You could even put the wah before AND after, if you had two of them!
@mcbins1993
@mcbins1993 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@darklight4815
@darklight4815 5 жыл бұрын
so many people dismiss or underestimate the goodness of a simple boss DS-1...sounded killer
@clintwhite3021
@clintwhite3021 5 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking how good it was :)
@Marigoldpyre
@Marigoldpyre 4 жыл бұрын
They can sound really effective when partnered with other effects, putting one after a muff can create some incredible buzz-saw tones that are almost bitcrush-esque.
@Korawitbeam12
@Korawitbeam12 4 жыл бұрын
I'm using ds-01😍
@uglypensacola8331
@uglypensacola8331 4 жыл бұрын
I can guarantee you that if you re-housed it, gave it a new name and doubled the price everyone would be losing their mind over it.
@drewscott9763
@drewscott9763 4 жыл бұрын
Ugly Nola This is one of the truest statements I have seen!
@HDvideoedit
@HDvideoedit 7 жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for keeping your videos so short and to the point
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I myself am not a fan of long videos so I try if at all possible to keep it as short as I can
@muse6121362227
@muse6121362227 7 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same, most of the people doing this kind of videos annoy you before they even start explaining the actual point of the video. So good job.
@Relayer6a
@Relayer6a 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Ever want to check out a pedal and click on a vid from That Pedal Show? Another one of my peeves are guys that no matter what they are demoing after about 5 minutes they've managed to dial the pedal to the same tone they get in every video. Rob Chapman, I'm looking at you. :-0
@thatellipsisguy8984
@thatellipsisguy8984 3 жыл бұрын
No shade on JHS, no, none at all...
@johnbradford2892
@johnbradford2892 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've never heard a DS1 sound so good, also cool that he doesn't only use wampler pedals. Shows me that he is both confident in his product and a cool guy
@yoboisteven1741
@yoboisteven1741 3 жыл бұрын
He's probably using one that's made in Japan, a lot of the people who hate on the DS-1 dislike it because they got the Taiwan version or they've just never taken it out of their bedroom and played on a stage.
@donovanweber6059
@donovanweber6059 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think Brian Wampler is probably someone most of us would like to hang out with. Plus he does make outstanding dirt pedals IMHO it's not just a gimmicky label. He's def one of the 3 kings of dirt pedals.
@sleevelessace
@sleevelessace 8 ай бұрын
yup i came to that understanding of why i dont like mine is because the 10 watt solid state amp im using in my room, because millions of people wear by it, and ive heard it sound amazing ... even the newer ones like the one i have@@yoboisteven1741
@HDvideoedit
@HDvideoedit 7 жыл бұрын
2:08 after 3:08 Before
@wunderdoggy
@wunderdoggy 7 жыл бұрын
You made the same mistake as this guy. 2;08 Wah BEFORE 3;08 Wah AFTER
@v8dreaming
@v8dreaming 7 жыл бұрын
Watch again.
@wunderdoggy
@wunderdoggy 7 жыл бұрын
After does not become before ,before.
@v8dreaming
@v8dreaming 7 жыл бұрын
If you look at how it's wired, the wah is after the distortion at 2:08. Guitar into tuner, into distortion, into wah, into amp.
@v8dreaming
@v8dreaming 7 жыл бұрын
At 3:08 it clearly shows the Guitar, tuner, wah, distortion, amp.
@benjaminfeddersen7937
@benjaminfeddersen7937 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I can never be a guitar expert. I'm sitting there listen to him play and think damn that sounds good, and then he's like, "I hate that."
@metamaggot
@metamaggot 5 жыл бұрын
taste is subjective...just because it sounds good to him doesn't mean it has to sound good to you
@reineh3477
@reineh3477 5 жыл бұрын
People have different taste. Just because he thinks one sounds better than the other doesn't mean that everyone thinks that. In this example I thought dist before wah sounded better. Am I right? Some will agree others don't.
@kanjosidr
@kanjosidr 5 жыл бұрын
This is why you should be. You are not afraid to express your opinion instead of reproducong ones you've already heard.
@Cam12369
@Cam12369 5 жыл бұрын
That’s that Jimi sound
@josephsmith8673
@josephsmith8673 5 жыл бұрын
Of course it sounds good to you and I as well as others. We like what we like.
@diegotobar6839
@diegotobar6839 7 жыл бұрын
Wah after distortion sounds/behaves almost a more like a filter type effect while the wah before the distortion sounds more like a "wah".
@frego16
@frego16 7 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a duck to me..
@daveyboy8907
@daveyboy8907 7 жыл бұрын
A zakk wylde mxr chorus,a rotovibe and a mxr phaser makes the best psychedelic sounds I have ever heard...Add a crybaby and go to lsd flashback town..
@harmono8766
@harmono8766 5 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense. A wah is a filter. You need to describe what it sounds like after distortion not just say a "filter".
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 5 жыл бұрын
@@harmono8766 Before distortion the Wah is a mild filter changing the sound a little bit, after distortion it softens the distortion.
@burrmanchu687
@burrmanchu687 5 жыл бұрын
Wut? A wah is literally a filter effect.. wah after OD is more pronounced wah because it's doing it's job. Wah before od is more distortion effect with wah sounds kinda in the audible background.
@directassault1662
@directassault1662 7 жыл бұрын
And now we know Brian's favorite position
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals 7 жыл бұрын
:p
@sbiegs3885
@sbiegs3885 7 жыл бұрын
Direct Assault reverse cowboy
@orsodevero
@orsodevero 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@markhammer643
@markhammer643 6 жыл бұрын
In the analog synth world, people make the distinction between additive and subtractive synthesis. Additive creates tones by selectively adding harmonics to the note in various ways and as it progresses. Subtractive synthesis starts out with a harmonically rich tone, like a square or ramp wave, and selectively carving away that harmonic content with filters. Wah-into-distortion is the analog of additive synthesis in that some frequencies come closer to the clipping point than others as you work the wah, creating a different feel to the clipping. Distortion-into-wah is the analog to subtractive synthesis in that the distortion generates lots of harmonic content that the wah selects from and "carves away". As well, wah-into-distortion results in a more consistent volume level, since the distortion will sort of "hard-clamp" the level. BY contrast, distortion-into-wah can result in a less even volume level since the frequency content remaining at one point in the wah sweep may be greater amplitude (or at least be heard as such) than another wah position. For my money, that doesn't make one better than the other, but you need to decide in advance which advantages/disadvantages will be suitable for whatever you're playing. Myself, I can't understand why most distortion or wahs don't already come with a footswitchable loop and order-flipper switch, so you can have the one or the other without having to tear down your rig.
@megaforce0
@megaforce0 6 жыл бұрын
In the end. You don't need to know any of this horseshit. Playing guitar with wah's and distortion for 50+ years, I found I just go by what I like. And having "a footswitchable loop"... sooner or later are multiple choices of gear that just results in too many choices that distract from the non-sterile environment of making music. Everything can't be boiled down to an algorithm of distractions or you lose the point. Making music is about feeling, not complicated algorithms and slide rule mentality.
@markhammer643
@markhammer643 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just explaining WHY they sound different. If you know exactly what tone you want, AND you have it nailed, fine. If you're looking for something different, or simply how to optimize your tone, ithelps to understand how things work, that's all.
@kristofwynants
@kristofwynants 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting viewpoint! Never thought of it, but makes perfect sense! Thanks!
@hutchmusic-ux5mi
@hutchmusic-ux5mi 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great comment, really helped me picture what I’m actually doing to my signal. Thank you for writing it.
@harmono8766
@harmono8766 5 жыл бұрын
Most amps have clean and dirty channels. So I would run the wah after distortion while playing lead, and wah before distortion (or into a dirty channel) while playing rhythm.
@guitarsbymetaljay
@guitarsbymetaljay 5 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear somebody demo a wah I'm like, that sounds better than mine, I have to get that one! Now I have eight wah pedals.
@UBERLADEN69
@UBERLADEN69 5 жыл бұрын
Jason McDermott tune your guitar maybe? Any beating makes a guitar sound like total garbage esp w overdrive & all the enhancement of harmonics
@thejamunit2835
@thejamunit2835 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Alex-ve3it
@Alex-ve3it 4 жыл бұрын
Jay McDermott which do you prefer? Which do you think is the best for Jimmy Page?
@name-ni3jc
@name-ni3jc 4 жыл бұрын
*g i m m e e m a l l*
@brycedadevil2146
@brycedadevil2146 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha fucking ayyyy that’s me to the T brother 😂😂 with pedals in general
@moy447
@moy447 5 жыл бұрын
0:52 when you remember, mom is watching your videos.
@jamesbarros950
@jamesbarros950 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you working to ensure we get a good idea of what's going on, and not just make it a commercial, but it's also nice to see what your own pedals do. I was dead set on getting myself a sweet tea when I bought my guitar, and having finally saved up, the guys at my local store said I absolutely needed to try a Tumnus, and just WOW, it's a drive pedal with subtlety and tone and much like reverb is a supertool that makes me sound GOOD when I'm just noodling around. THANK YOU for making such wonderful stuff.
@jordandelacruz1866
@jordandelacruz1866 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! I appreciate your humility in using other companies products! I have a crazy mix of vintage and modern pedals as do most 'serious' musicians I think! Using a variety keeps it very honest and real! Thank you!
@kristofwynants
@kristofwynants 6 жыл бұрын
dude! you! are! the! master! thank you brian for all this juicy info! And on top of that you're a genuine and authentic personality too! enjoy your day
@analog-pedals
@analog-pedals 5 жыл бұрын
Pedal placement is all about what kind of sound YOU want. Brian expressed that at the beginning of the video. There is no right way or wrong way to do it. It's all your choice. My personal preference is wah after distortion. Not because I think wah before distortion sounds bad, it's just not want I want to get out of the wah. In my opinion, wah after distortion has a more vocal quality... I've used it both ways, and it is just my preference. I love watching Brian's videos because the dude truly knows what he's talking about. By the way, I've mod'd my GCB95 for true bypass, added a Sabbadius Halo inductor and also removed the input buffer. That kind of changes things up a bit.
@SonicGenerations1100
@SonicGenerations1100 7 жыл бұрын
I only had my first 4 pedals for a day and i knew immediately that i liked the wah being first in the chain. It allows you to really get the sweep to stand high and mighty above every pedal and it sounds so good!
@potatoheadhaoy
@potatoheadhaoy 6 жыл бұрын
I usually like to go fuzz>wah>distortion, The extra gain's a bit superfluous, but you get this really distinct sweep that kinda sounds like a vintage vocoder, especially with the lower notes. I discovered it a couple months back by mistake, and since then I ended up liking it so much I used it on almost all of my songs in some way or another.
@thefuzz4447
@thefuzz4447 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice pedals Mr. Wampler! Why don't you make a Wah-mpler? Best regards, Thomas
@randomgraham4302
@randomgraham4302 7 жыл бұрын
I don't normally give a lot of praise on other peoples videos but sir I love your channel as well as this video... I've been wondering this question for sometime and you've made a video that has helped me out more than you'll know.. Thanks man keep up the good work!
@jordanm74
@jordanm74 6 жыл бұрын
This is the first of your videos Ive seen. I love your studio and this video was very helpful. Cheers from Liverpool!
@JM-eq3sx
@JM-eq3sx 3 жыл бұрын
3:42 and then 0:31 Wah > Distortion wins, but stated the opposite at the intro.
@Spaghettaboutit
@Spaghettaboutit 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking to see if anyone else had pointed this out. I’m shocked I had to scroll as long as I did to find at least one person say it.
@RipIPDime
@RipIPDime 4 жыл бұрын
What I've always found running Wah->OD is that the overdrive seems to affect that taper of the wah such that there is a very fine "breaking point" of "low" vs "high" perception of the filter. That being said, the overall tones tends to be better, even if the dynamics suffer.
@raybbaby
@raybbaby 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video, short and sweet and right to the point. Very informative.
@669rd
@669rd 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. This video really helped in my new distortion wah setup. It makes a whole lot of noise when I place my distortion after the pedal but it cleared up right after I switch the distortion to before the wah. Cheers Mr Wampler.
@aprilcox871
@aprilcox871 7 жыл бұрын
Wah after distortion is good for Tom Morello-type sounds
@extralifegot
@extralifegot 7 жыл бұрын
or frusciante
@janmeyjayshukla3276
@janmeyjayshukla3276 7 жыл бұрын
April Cox Frusicante will be before distortion pedal
@Nirvana4Lifeq
@Nirvana4Lifeq 7 жыл бұрын
lol, frusciante's first effect in the chain was a boss DS-2
@Julian66666666666666
@Julian66666666666666 7 жыл бұрын
Sandro Correia but he had his amps cranked
@thepopit2
@thepopit2 7 жыл бұрын
Sandro Correia frusciante had an Ibanez wh10 wah which behaves differently
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 7 жыл бұрын
I've always preferred my wah after my drive/fuzz pedals. Other way round seems to really diminish the effect of the wah.
@bradfuller84
@bradfuller84 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Brian. Helped me better my playing and my knowledge for pedals!
@andreasdavour9973
@andreasdavour9973 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo, and to the point. Just like the phaser. Thanks Brian.
@teunputker
@teunputker 7 жыл бұрын
I think putting a wah after distortion sounds much better if you let the amp break up as well. So the wah is both before and after the wah. John Frusciante does this and he has a great wah tone. Listen to the end of the Dani California solo on a live concert of the Chili Peppers and you'll hear this great/crazy wah tone.
@arlingtonhynes
@arlingtonhynes 6 жыл бұрын
“The wah is both before and after the wah” - dude, like, wait, what? Whoa! WAH! Transcendental! Ok, just a typo. But I like it.
@ty_chaa
@ty_chaa 6 жыл бұрын
Teun Putker this is exactly what I do and that's the tone I try to chase with my wah sound
@dvdjns100
@dvdjns100 6 жыл бұрын
and it all sounds like Henrix been done get your own sound.
@tomlayman3141
@tomlayman3141 5 жыл бұрын
Wah is before and after distortion, right? Not before and after wah. After pedal and before distorted amp. That's the way I do it. BTW don't need that hiss sound either.
@thisdyingsoul76
@thisdyingsoul76 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer wah before distortion, but I can see how after would be a useful sound occasionally.
@harmono8766
@harmono8766 5 жыл бұрын
Yes when playing lead wah *after* distortion sounds more impressive. Playing rhythm I run the wah into the dirty channel with distortion off. I never use distortion when playing rhythm, I play into a slightly dirty channel when playing rhythm.
@TheJonathanNewton
@TheJonathanNewton 3 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot!
@AdamRainStopper
@AdamRainStopper 7 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the wah, specifically just HOW "active" your wah is. What I mean by that is that some wah pedals will give you a sweep that just shifts the mid focus from one point to another, but there's a kind of smoothness to it, not a huge decibel difference between back and forward. Others seem to just be a passive low-pass filter that "opens up" when you step it forward, causing a HUGE volume jump. If the wah you use is the latter, then putting it before the distortion (or in front of a dirty amp) is a good way to compress some of the peaky highs that come at the "ah" end of the "w-ah" sweep. However, I had a wah that was built by my dad, and it really only touched the mids, and kind of notched one end while slightly boosting the other, but there was no noticeable difference in volume from one end to the other, and I didn't just put that after a dirt *pedal*, I actually put it in the effects loop of a dirty amp. This kept the wah from changing the amount of gain or the *character* of the distortion, and also gave me a more noticeable sweep. If I had one of the other types, like the original Vox, I might have actually put it in front of a compression pedal and THEN into a dirty amp, so it could sound smoother and more "natural" and not like the wah was pushing the amp in the forward mode and pulling back on the gain when cocked back. It all comes down to taste, obviously. Some people like a wah after their delay so they can keep shifting the tone of the repeats, or a distortion after the delay, so the repeats get progressively cleaner as they decay. Others think you *MUST* put time-based effects in the loop.... I've done both and liked both.
@Nicoadid
@Nicoadid 7 жыл бұрын
There are two options that we can get, the first choice of distortion with wah , or the second wah with distortion. The resulting sound is very different. And this is depending on the taste of each guitarist
@sonictitan5604
@sonictitan5604 6 жыл бұрын
Hendrix put his wah before his fuzz. Enough said
@jonkerrmusic
@jonkerrmusic 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't running a "clean" amp, either.
@domformula1
@domformula1 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always understood that the default layout would be before, as it’s a frequency shaping tool, so should come as early as possible.
@YCK96
@YCK96 3 жыл бұрын
With a VERY long cable in between
@felixnedelec841
@felixnedelec841 3 жыл бұрын
Frusciante after
@ryanlevin1912
@ryanlevin1912 3 жыл бұрын
think for yourself
@MartinCliffe
@MartinCliffe 7 жыл бұрын
Great illustration. Although it pretty much just served to remind me why I don't keep a wah on my board at all :)
@bjorngoud5259
@bjorngoud5259 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the wampler logo with the knobs an colors! Spot on!
@Ben59910
@Ben59910 4 жыл бұрын
1:11, sounds like you're about to start singing a country song 😂
@WagnerWarner
@WagnerWarner 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated hahaha
@jeepeng
@jeepeng 3 жыл бұрын
nice one! hahahahahaha!
@JohnnyGuitaristOfficial
@JohnnyGuitaristOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Ds1's are cool, such a classic iconic pedal.
@ShredMaster1289
@ShredMaster1289 6 жыл бұрын
I've always placed my wah at the beginning of my chain, and since my Morley Tremonti Power Wah and Bad Horsie II both have boost knobs, I can have that +db there for leads when I need it. Great video!
@CeciVK
@CeciVK 7 жыл бұрын
This is the first KZbin video I have seen with the same tunner I use... The best (but not popular) guitar pedal. Like for that!!!
@BurninAss
@BurninAss 7 жыл бұрын
Whenever I transport my equipment from one place to another, I always forget which way to arrange my wah and distortion. One of them sounds like shi-crap to me... I always have to think about it this way, and then I can remember which way is the good sounding one. If you only had the wah, then you'd plug it right into the amp, so the amplifier's distortion ALWAYS comes after the wah.
@jurassicsurvivor9204
@jurassicsurvivor9204 6 жыл бұрын
2:27 "I hate that!"
@part2play
@part2play 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man! That was well done and very helpful, and yet confusing because: 00:31 - "The better placement for a wah is, I think, after a distortion." (Distortion before wah.) 03:42 - "That is my favorite position to use a wah: I prefer going into the wah, preferably without any sort of buffer before it, then into the distortion." (Wah before distortion.) I agree with your second statement and the results you got from that arrangement... wah before distortion, yo. I get you. 😉 Thank you.
@JLGUITARMUSIC7
@JLGUITARMUSIC7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration bro!
@dominickedwardscantore9001
@dominickedwardscantore9001 7 жыл бұрын
I tried hooking my wah pedal before distortion , and then tried hooking it after distortion , and it seemed to have more dominance and control after distortion and sounded clearer ? My opinion !
@dylanvogel4503
@dylanvogel4503 5 жыл бұрын
Nah man I did the exact same thing and my mind was blown
@Czyszy
@Czyszy 6 жыл бұрын
3:14 Hey! It's the "every wah pedal demo ever" riff again.
@devonmiller113
@devonmiller113 6 жыл бұрын
Czyszy voodoo child slight return lol
@MATRIX1999ism
@MATRIX1999ism 6 жыл бұрын
anyways its voodoo child slight return so STFU
@xGOKOPx
@xGOKOPx 6 жыл бұрын
Wah should sound like the guitarist who plays it wants it to sound, not like it sounds on some other songs
@MrDaigoRiki
@MrDaigoRiki Жыл бұрын
Very simple and understandable, thank you so much, your tele sounds so good.
@felixgraphx
@felixgraphx 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I heard your video to hear out the diffference in swapping those two mainstay of pedalboards. , find em both different - but not necessarily one being bad or better.
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG 5 жыл бұрын
@felixgraphx In fact, the efffect is more poignant and gluten-fffree when you describe the tone using words w/3 F's... don't stop believvving! ps. Oh, and V's, too...
@janmeyjayshukla3276
@janmeyjayshukla3276 7 жыл бұрын
from John Frusciante's prospective .. which one will be better ? before or after ?
@Nirvana4Lifeq
@Nirvana4Lifeq 7 жыл бұрын
wah after distortion
@janmeyjayshukla3276
@janmeyjayshukla3276 7 жыл бұрын
thanks man :-)
@uglypensacola8331
@uglypensacola8331 5 жыл бұрын
John used his wah after the stomp boxes but his amps were cranked and provided enough compression so the wah would remain what most would consider musical. Generally speaking you'll need some sort distortion/compression after the wah even if you have fuzz/dist/drive before it.
@andresilvasophisma
@andresilvasophisma 5 жыл бұрын
After the distortion sounds like a duck. Quack quaaaaaaack! Quack quack quack quaaaaaaaaack! =D Edit: This video could also be titled "How to dial a proper tone with a Boss DS-1"
@aaronpaterson1615
@aaronpaterson1615 5 жыл бұрын
Monsieur Wampler, Iove your set up, my favourite Wah-pedal sound is that which was played on the lead of Stir It Up by Bob Marley and the Wailers. From what I've read and heard, none of the Wailers played the lead on the studio version of STIR IT UP. It was played by an American session musician brought to London from the USA to play on it when they were over-dubbing the original Wailers track recorded month before in Kingston, Jamaica. That's why no live recording of Stir It Up had the wah-sound, that is duplicated it on stage, check it out sometime. Great Video bro, keep it up
@bluerock5351
@bluerock5351 7 жыл бұрын
Wampler Pedals - Nice test & I agree with your conclusions. It kinda brings ya back to earth when you realise how good an inexpensive BOSS DS-1 sounds, when so much more money could be spent on boutique pedals. Not as good as my Wampler Velvet fuzz of course.
@EddieOtool
@EddieOtool 5 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. I experienced exactly the same thing with my multieffect, but I stil prefer to put the wah at the end of the chain for a noticeable impact. When playing live, subtle tone changes go unnoticed because of inherent live low fidelity, unless you're playing solo (I mean, realy solo, as in the other band members keeping it shut) or through a million dollars sound system into a million dollar sound-engineered hall. So the wah before my gained up amp emulator was doing basically nothing, or nearly so. Gotta use a clean amp emulator to hear anything significant. Same goes for fuzz, mind you... BUT, in the end, everything is bound to personnal preference, so I guess here as well no absolute answer is to be found.
@ryanoliver8039
@ryanoliver8039 6 жыл бұрын
"Sounded like sshhh-crap"😂
@likeanuuk6612
@likeanuuk6612 7 жыл бұрын
wah after the distortion sounded better than i thought. its really cool and funkish
@hasabs1214
@hasabs1214 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I had this confusion for a while and this video really helped :D One question - are you in favor of processors or would you rather indulge in making one's own effects board? (Money is slightly an issue)
@rogerlikesbud
@rogerlikesbud 7 жыл бұрын
its just a matter of opinion
@rogerlikesbud
@rogerlikesbud 7 жыл бұрын
at 3:10 it sounds terrible
@johnrhoypeyuanmoring4546
@johnrhoypeyuanmoring4546 7 жыл бұрын
Yup! i prefer placing my wah after the distortion.
@xGOKOPx
@xGOKOPx 6 жыл бұрын
Well I think that 3:10 sounds much better
@dvdjns100
@dvdjns100 6 жыл бұрын
no it isnt
@ajboyd9389
@ajboyd9389 5 жыл бұрын
Ds 1 before the wah sounds like the miku pedal haha
@m2fsr
@m2fsr Жыл бұрын
I added a boost Fet preamp to my Vox pedal and adjusted it with a trim pot. It was first on one side of my effects board . I liked to run effect chains in parallel and split to seperate amps. Fun stuff.
@robinmiller9773
@robinmiller9773 7 жыл бұрын
I love this guy- to be neutral he uses a boss- ds1 (I really have no opinion on its quality) when he makes some outstanding pedals that he could be plugging himself. Good on ya Brian.
@fiftypeehead
@fiftypeehead 7 жыл бұрын
Okay I need a DS1
@ShortySeconds2Mars
@ShortySeconds2Mars 7 жыл бұрын
dont... get a proper amp with a proper OD pedal if you still need it
@stuartadams9532
@stuartadams9532 7 жыл бұрын
They're not very good. Plenty of better distortion pedals.
@MB-yw3pv
@MB-yw3pv 7 жыл бұрын
It all depends on what amp you pair it with, if you want one get 1, there is another version i think called the OD-1X that has chrome knobs, it is better and more dynamic then the original
@manualofalternativemusic
@manualofalternativemusic 7 жыл бұрын
I have it, I love it. But it's better to carry a booster with you whenever you'll play with other amps, the volume might get a little low. Actually after taking my od around to boost it, I added it so my rig definitely. It's always on ,with a low gain setting. Your gear will come alive man
@TheMisfit
@TheMisfit 7 жыл бұрын
Victor Budin A volume booster?
@scotthoffman5305
@scotthoffman5305 6 жыл бұрын
After, unless you want your wah to sound like 70s porn.
@princeofdenmark9142
@princeofdenmark9142 4 жыл бұрын
Nice demo, simple & effective.
@aldouslau
@aldouslau 7 жыл бұрын
I have tried different ways to put the wah. I use an overdrive as distortion to boost up my Randall tube head. Many people put the wah at the very front of the rig, but the tone had been eaten somehow when I kicked in the wah. So my final setup is tube head ---> overdrive ---> wah ---> phase ---> whammy ---> chorus ---> delay. I am using Dimebag signature wah. The only it catch my eyes is the fuzz wah tone. Without overdrive at front, the fuzz doesn't sound outstanding, so I use the overdrive pedal to boost the fuzz wah and it just sounds much better for me
@niksonpavlikson
@niksonpavlikson 4 жыл бұрын
Before: Qah After: Wah
@Ben59910
@Ben59910 4 жыл бұрын
You mean Quah
@elicantwell
@elicantwell 7 жыл бұрын
Is this Sid from skins when he's older?
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals 7 жыл бұрын
+Eli Cantwell no beavis.
@wjniemi
@wjniemi 3 жыл бұрын
EQs are almost always better before compressors. Good video.
@dominickedwardscantore9001
@dominickedwardscantore9001 7 жыл бұрын
Cool dude ! Thanks for sharing !
@kylelikeskjvbible
@kylelikeskjvbible 7 жыл бұрын
wah before distortion is definitely better, wah after distortion sucks too much volume.
@iridios6127
@iridios6127 7 жыл бұрын
for DEAF people (i mean who hear absolutely nothing --- total silience)wah after --- sucks (you right) XD
@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames
@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames 7 жыл бұрын
wah before the boss "eats" all the mid frequencies! Personal opinion: NO MIDS = NO SOUND!
@smalllhank
@smalllhank 6 жыл бұрын
“Shcrap”
@BBQgeek
@BBQgeek 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brian. I agree with you on wah before distortion, but what about tuners with buffers before a wah? Same problem? Would you then recommend a signal path of gtr-wah-tuner-distortion ?
@johnnyflame54
@johnnyflame54 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, before is how I’ve always done it so I feel justified!
@RyleTvDazzle
@RyleTvDazzle 6 жыл бұрын
I got a 1 question for you What are those?!
@lightbulb5642
@lightbulb5642 6 жыл бұрын
Ryle Dazzle Vlogs that’s not funny in any way, it’s just stupid, it was never funny
@lightningriderguitartutori6538
@lightningriderguitartutori6538 6 жыл бұрын
Stop!!! That's dead
@50shadesofgandalfthegrey57
@50shadesofgandalfthegrey57 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to 2015
@irfanhidayat2076
@irfanhidayat2076 5 жыл бұрын
bikin malu orang indo lu :(
@irfanhidayat2076
@irfanhidayat2076 5 жыл бұрын
646a656e74 true
@greyvalencia4683
@greyvalencia4683 6 жыл бұрын
Watch this at .5 speed
@cyberdel
@cyberdel 6 жыл бұрын
Grey Valencia i lolled
@RyanTheHuman-tr1ol
@RyanTheHuman-tr1ol 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that’s halarious😂😂😂
@lefty4800
@lefty4800 6 жыл бұрын
At .5x he sounds like Ace Frehley xD
@XxStonedImmaculatexX
@XxStonedImmaculatexX 2 жыл бұрын
I’m seriously considering putting mine after my OD because I play with high gain and most times, its a bit harsh on the highs when I have it before OD.
@Sousafolle
@Sousafolle 4 жыл бұрын
When I put wah first I like to put a Super Hard On type of booster between my wah and fuzz. It gives more control on the wah sound and make the effect more consistent and predictable as I switch between different guitars.
@ramilgrospe8201
@ramilgrospe8201 7 жыл бұрын
wah after sounded like guerilla radio
@KeeperOfPoops
@KeeperOfPoops 5 жыл бұрын
and the end of the RHCP dani california guitar solo cos John always favored his DS2 in front of the Wah
@aidanlarose6901
@aidanlarose6901 6 жыл бұрын
I think the real problem here is that you’re using a boss distortion pedal in this.
@fabiankaupert2528
@fabiankaupert2528 5 жыл бұрын
Can we hear this with an OCD and a fuzz pedal? (DBA Apocalypse?)
@charlieb8735
@charlieb8735 5 жыл бұрын
Even dirt cheap pedals sound pretty decent through a warm tube amp (at least way better than through a solid state or super clean tube amp) but yeah I’m not a fan of the DS1. The boss overdrive isn’t bad but it’s basically just a crappier version of a tube screamer at its best. All that aside, the pedal was more than adequate for the demo
@fabiankaupert2528
@fabiankaupert2528 5 жыл бұрын
@@charlieb8735 forget the stigma about solid state, once you move up in watts and speaker size, you can get marvelous clean tones that sound wretchedly awesome with dirt pedals. I'm running a 300watt GK head into a 15" JBL PA speaker ($250 total investment) and I've never had a more reliable and usable setup. (broken two hot rods in my time just from regular use $600 for the two amps and over $900 in repairs all to waste)
@bmcash3411
@bmcash3411 6 жыл бұрын
Cool vid. I like my wah after a tubescreamer set up more like a clean boost. For people who like the srv wah tone, like myself, I recommend guitar Octavia fuzz tubescreamer wah amp. After experimenting, I think there is a huge difference in wah or or after when the amp is cranked. Bedroom levels sound different.
@jasonlee8497
@jasonlee8497 7 жыл бұрын
love how a wah can have a volume pedal effect when using it after a drive or fuzz.
@unnimusic007
@unnimusic007 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice and clean demonstration thank you.....
@Jihadbearzwithgunz
@Jihadbearzwithgunz 6 жыл бұрын
Totally depends on the sound you are looking for and if the wah has any boost.
@closertotheheart
@closertotheheart 7 жыл бұрын
The sound of wah after the distortion was kinda cool. More like an envelope filter sound. The annoying thing about that placement was more the playing dynamics and not the sound. As I recall, my sound was pretty much muted whenever I pressed the wah backward.
@TheGreatConstantini
@TheGreatConstantini Жыл бұрын
Thank for the video. Today I tried different orders for all my pedals unfortunately into a Fender amp that I’m not fond of. Then i took a break came back and plugged my Grateful Dead Les Paul (yes I got it from the band) into my chain and a Vox AC30. Holly pig dog. It sounded like Stevie ray was in the room. So my conclusion is the whole chain matters. The high-a pickups into the effects and the AC30 made the pedals soar. Before they were robbing tone. Thanks again
@howardanderson3061
@howardanderson3061 5 жыл бұрын
I've been a traditional wah into distortion guy but that being said, There was a synth filter wah thing that happened when played wah into distortion. It reminded me of Jeff Beck's " ain't superstiscious" I wonder if that was his signal chain, it could go either way?
@sidnewman7676
@sidnewman7676 7 жыл бұрын
Never laughed so much at a gear vid. Not at the vid, just really enjoyed it. Sub'd!
@MiguelBaptista1981
@MiguelBaptista1981 7 жыл бұрын
Before preserves the sound of the guitar. After it gets quite compressed, and reaching to a synth sound, which is awesome as well.
@natepopodi4770
@natepopodi4770 7 жыл бұрын
What mods have you done to the DS-1? (assuming you've done mods) Or is it stock?
@amrmohamed3546
@amrmohamed3546 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a ibanez wh-10 and i always put it after my distortion. Any other wah i’d put before the distortion. There’s something about the wh-10 after distortion that’s just so funky and i love it
@sterlingdavis6657
@sterlingdavis6657 Жыл бұрын
I agree totally, you confirmed it thanks
@seanc4907
@seanc4907 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge good sir!
@charlesb7831
@charlesb7831 6 жыл бұрын
I just checked this video out, don't know how I missed it lol. I run into a mxr Wylde wah then a "nu-tube" screamer into a mxr Wylde overdrive (little bit of gain stacking) to a mxr stereo chorus to my jcm 800. So far so good! Kind of wondering about adding a mxr noise gate? Any ideas or input would be greatly appreciated, Cheers!
@thewayiamoramnot
@thewayiamoramnot 6 жыл бұрын
Same two pedals I have. At least now I can see which sounds clearer and cleaner.. thanks.
@thanoskall8933
@thanoskall8933 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there, nice video! I have an issue with probably seems like this: i have a boss reverb, marshall distortion and the same vox wah.. I m plug in with this series, so what do u think i must plug in first? Reverb or distortion? (and sorry for my broken english i m still learning)
@gizmoguyar
@gizmoguyar Жыл бұрын
The wah pedal controls tone. Specifically it removes high frequencies. The distortion adds high frequencies in the form of clipping. By putting your wah pedal after distortion, it will remove a lot of the high frequency, effectively changing the amount and sound of the distortion as you move the pedal. Wah before distortion means you'll get much more uniform distortion sound independent of the wah pedal position. It's a personal choice. I think I like adding distortion after wah, so they don't interact as much.
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 5 жыл бұрын
It depends, when you put it before, you can vary the sound a bit, after distortion it sounds like a talk box. Pretty interesting is the chain Distortion ->Wah->Overdrive
@TelecasterLPGTop
@TelecasterLPGTop 5 жыл бұрын
My Ernie Ball Wah wah wah wah sounds great when plugged into front of amp while all other effects (Digitech Genesis 3) are using the effects loop. The amp is a Marshall JTM30 and I'm utilizing the clean channel.
@rubberband9570
@rubberband9570 6 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on whether to run guitar into pedal input vs output. And pedal input vs output into amp input vs amp output vs pre amp in vs power amp out. Thanks
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals 6 жыл бұрын
It won’t work in the output
@skatterpro
@skatterpro 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, your vox wah sounds good!
@NICKWAPPERER117
@NICKWAPPERER117 7 жыл бұрын
I respect your gear choice and your reasons for it. That's a very admirable way to approach this
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