WandaVision 1x4 REACTION/DISCUSSION!! {We Interrupt This Program}

[@Dizzy247365plus]

I love Tasha SO MUCH right now. She gets it. She gets it ONE THOUSAND. Wanda's MULTIPLE TRAUMAS have caught up with her. She's in the middle of a nervous breakdown. Her powers are wildly manifesting shit to help her cope. She's starting to figure out it's wrong but she also DOESN'T CARE. SHE WANTS TO BE HAPPY. As soon as they take this shit away from her??? BRUH.....

[@isaiahdickson1019]

A little Easter egg is that Jimmy the FBI agent learned that card trick from Scott in Ant man and the Wasp

[@rebel_x13]

That's noticing the small details and proving your marvel fan status! Nice.

[@isaiahdickson1019]

@@rebel_x13 thanks

[@mrcrazy7865]

@@isaiahdickson1019 god I love the continuity with that. And FBI Agent Woo is hilarious as hell!

[@alwaysbam]

Marvel is so good. The world and character building that the Disney+ shows will add to the movies. *Chefs kiss*

[@goat1408]

Ikr?

[@aisha02a]

yup!

[@nickv1212]

Yeah, you can't really have a ton of character building in ensemble films. Leave that to the shows and let the films be huge ensemble events. Best of both worlds.

[@Supermario19001]

@@nickv1212 flims have to tell there story within a certain time fram. Shows on the other hand can take there sweet time telling the story.

[@dangerdynamic-2950]

So she created a whole new world and holding these people hostage cause she's in her feelings.... if "DOING THE MOST" was a person 🤣🤣🤣

[@whatiwatch006]

Yeah but it’s not just that Agatha harkness is also behind this haha

[@qeaupe1131]

The amount of trauma she’s had. It’s pretty validated for me

[@kratosgow2]

Ultron killed her brother and thanos killed her love intrest, I don't blame wanda for creating her owned reality

[@dewaynearmstrong8860]

The opening of the episode was amazing I felt like I was at the movie theater! Seeing Monica and everyone else come back from the Thanos snap was insane. Wanda is def the villain of her own show and I'm not mad about it. The jump scare with dead Vision was creepy af, I came to the conclusion that Wanda is using Vision's dead body as a puppet, and the Westview neighbors are her dolls. It was nice to see S.W.O.R.D.'s point of view from the outside.

[@tjay2586]

Wanda definitely made her own reality but I think someone is influencing her.

[@teume_lover6396]

@@tjay2586 definitely

[@Brushless707]

@@tjay2586 100% Monica saying it's ALL Wanda, definitely tells me it's not all Wanda.

[@Ahsoka]

@@Brushless707 yeah, it will be too predictable if so

[@yodaguru]

Dead Vision freaked us all out.

[@DerrBeezy]

Yep I was like wtf

[@oscargalvez8803]

Yessss but it was sad 😔

[@TJUC123]

The fact that Wanda made everyone outside of Westview forget that it even existed is just insane. Wanda is so powerful, bruh. So the families of any Westview resident probably doesn’t even know they exist anymore. Those 3,000 plus people’s families just forgetting them. It’s so sad.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

but as we learned from the snap, anything that can be done so easily can be undone just as easily. the people of westview are only going to have been gone for weeks, not five years, and their loved ones won't have to deal with the trauma that snap survivors went thru. it's comparatively merciful.

[@TJUC123]

@@sirmoonslosthismind Not 100% sure about that.

[@florianbelleterre1903]

"She's op as fuck" and she's not even at full power yet.

[@TheSvmurai]

My man, Agent Wu, has been really practicing that card trick 😂

[@kimhenry4581]

Facts lmao 😂

[@verdurite]

I'm loving how they brought back Darcy (Thor 2) and Woo (Ant-man and the Wasp). It makes the marvel universe feel more real to see these characters play bigger roles in different parts of the universe. Obviously the same goes for Monica (Captain Marvel).

[@jbrewerman2]

Darcy (Thor 1 and 2).

[@alexr.3136]

Trey, I appreciate your immediate analysis, and you came to the same conclusion I did initially about Wanda's current psyche, which was not touched upon at the end of Avengers: Endgame, but may be shown here soon on future episodes. In her lifetime, she has lost her parents, then her brother, and finally Vision. She was dusted and brought back 5 years later, so she hasn't even gotten a chance to grieve about Vision's death. Her support structure with the Avengers is gone (Cap's moved on; Natasha's dead; Falcon, Bucky, & Hawkeye are dealing with their own situations) and she is now all on her own, for the first time in her life, with no one to turn to, and her powers seem to have evolved (or mutated) exponentially. Can't wait to see what's in store for the MCU in these next episodes!

[@aidenhallowell3819]

3:39 this is where you realise how powerful Wanda is, she created a confined space in the universe where she controls reality, she not only wiped the memories of the people that live there but also so the memories of them from everyone outside that space, nobody remembers who lives in WestView neither the outide world nor it's citizens

[@taylorurok]

Tasha's analytical skills continue to be some of the best anywhere!

[@jbrewerman2]

Trey is right. While Wanda may have forgiven Tony Stark, her lack of emotional attachment to his death may stem from on a deep subconscious level, she hates Tony as Tony is indirectly responsible for her parent's death and her and Pietro being frozen with a Stark Industries missile (that thankfully jammed or turned out to be a dud) sitting right in front of them without expliding for two days. Then....Ultron kills Pietro...and Ultron was directly created by Tony Stark (with assistance from Bruce Banner and Jarvis).

[@TexasToni11]

Trey instantly knew that Monica was getting snapped back! i didn't realize until she opened the door lol

[@endor8witch]

i like how they change up the storytelling with this format. it makes the superhero genre more diverse instead of the usual action-centric format

[@vortex_1336]

"She ain't trying to hurt nobody." Wait till it all falls apart, Vision dies again, and her babies dissapear and see if that's still the case.

[@imtherealtammygonna6216]

I think vision and her babies will become real when they leave the dome.

[@kratosgow2]

@@imtherealtammygonna6216 nah, She can't have kids, I doubt the kids are going to be there at the end.

[@Chemeleon15]

@@kratosgow2 why do you think she can't have children? bc of vision? well, she can literally make anything real, so her having children is not outside the realm of possibility. Spoiler: Her and vision have kids in the comics, The same ones born last episode

[@ThatBlackFreak30]

Vision and the kids will leave the dome and become real, like duh. Why would they introduce them just to kill them off?

[@vortex_1336]

@@ThatBlackFreak30 To make her go fully villain.

[@tanaywilson2181]

Wanda literally created her own perfect world 🤦🏾‍♀️💔

[@douglasruffin7363]

THE "OMG" MOMENT FOR ME WAS , THEM SAYING WANDA TAPPED INTO THE ENERGY THAT CREATED THE "BIG BANG" ..... LIKE WHAT ?????? OP AF

[@agirlhasnoname567]

Tasha is a whole mood all the damn time 😂😂 i love y’all. Been waiting for this to come out all day

[@patrickcromwell7554]

Yes Wanda is responsible, she's the cause. BUT she's not constantly keeping her power active. All she did was set the parameters and her powers filled in the blanks. She wanted the town isolated, where she could be alone with Vision, without interference. Her powers basically did the rest. She's not constantly micromanaging EVERYTHING.

[@TabbyeLynne]

Exactly, notice how you stop hearing the babies crying when she is focused on expelling Monica, they only exist when she is actively thinking about them

[@jamesblaine5517]

Really, am I the only person that finds her being "grounded" by her mother funny?

[@anjealousanaconda9692]

I think there’s a double meaning. They mentioned a she could only deal with terrestrial threats and mentioned how drones often chaperone her not the other way around. Also her mom’s name was Photon

[@jamesblaine5517]

@@anjealousanaconda9692 I understand its a double meaning thats why its funny. Even after her dying she is still "grounding" her adult daughter. Not sure what the rest of your response has to do with it but ok.

[@billstephens396]

I did chuckle when I heard it was her mother doing the grounding even from the grave... If it were me, I would have been like, "That woman! I'm a grown ass man!"

[@Gman34176thegoat]

Best reaction duo on KZbin by far!!!!!

[@var7317]

That part!!

[@Ziaotic]

Heatah and Hustla second.

[@phantomblaq1871]

Kenneth you are right...

[@LooseAsADEUCE]

By a longshot!

[@brianblack803]

Wanda reanimated Vision's corpse. And she's having an intimate relationship with a corpse. Let's think about that

[@gmclite1123]

@Bio Kimistry so is it safe to say that Vision is being kept alive by Wanda's magic, without Vision actually having the mind stone?? 🤔

[@jerrysweezer1271]

@@gmclite1123 just get a card battery on him

[@yamemeguy4744]

@@gmclite1123 in theory yes but would he really be alive?

[@brianblack803]

@@gmclite1123 no. I'm saying, it seems as if Wanda has reanimated Vision's corpse in that reality. Vision's body and probably artificial personality and memories she's given him. Black Mirror type stuff

[@brianblack803]

@@yamemeguy4744 if Wanda can create babies, she can give Vision a copy of his memories from before

[@emilyb2036]

I think initially Wanda did this by accident when she developed her new power due to her mental instability and grief, but now she’s realised and doesn’t care. She doesn’t have full control (hence the glitches) and I think Dr Strange will come in to teach her magic to control her reality warping powers. Maybe Mephisto is involved too in some way, but I can’t figure how

[@lizg9196]

That zombie vision hit me and my boy hard.. we was not ready!!!!

[@rafaelspearsjr2757]

“Talk about multitasking”😭

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

monica's boss said she had come in three weeks after reappearing.

[@midnightstudio1701]

I wonder if Carol knows that Maria is dead

[@robot8290]

She obviously knows, Carol wasn’t snapped away.

[@ashonlewis9353]

She probably does

[@aisha02a]

most likely. also probably another motivation for her to keep trying with the avengers to save the universe

[@Ziaotic]

i thought they got together at the end

[@verdurite]

she probably does, which is nice because it means that Maria wasn't alone before she died

[@dgchvz]

Scarlet Witch has BEEN my favorite comic book hero and the fact she’s truly getting her moment is like amazing. She’s gonna be such a good villain and that redemption is gonna be so good

[@fritzk3627]

Hero? Nah, She is a villain, just like her Father, Magneto.

[@htowngunz1420]

I'm thinking that Agnes was living in this town of Westview under cover as a normal human and Wanda found her and took it over and also took over Agnes and is using her powers along with Agnes's power to try and either bring vision back or just live the "perfect life" to avoid the tragedy of her reality.

[@richierich7229]

But why couldn't they ID Agnes though?

[@htowngunz1420]

@@richierich7229 If Agnes is a witch like Wanda she would have similar powers to where she could live with w.e Identity she mind controlled Westview to believe . so Agnes could live in Westview as a human bcuz she used her powers like wanda has to make people believe she's normal when she isn't

[@htowngunz1420]

@@richierich7229 ORRRRRR Wanda summoned agnes into westview when she (wanda) took the town over and used Agnes' powers with her own to do all this. so not only would all these people be trapped but so would Agnes which may be why in the trailer Agnes seems afraid saying" are you here to help us"

[@RainNoFlowers]

Tasha be having me crack up 😭😭😭

[@agirlhasnoname567]

FR 😂😂 she is all of our thoughts tho lmao

[@shemajdgantt5732]

I think she is doing the sitcom thing because in her childhood, the only American tv programs they could get were old sitcoms. They represent her idea of the perfect American family. The way little girls view Disney princesses.

[@Chystyle]

Congrats on the 100k.....Its about damn time....!

[@shemajdgantt5732]

He kids were reborn as different people in the comics. They kept their first names, powers, and still looked alike and were twins but had different, separate families and had different backgrounds/upbringings.

[@Kidapollo92]

wow so after the events of captain marvel maria rambeau became the founder of sword... thats nuts. The Sentient Weapon Observation and Response Division is an American extra governmental intellegence agency. Jimmy woo was the agent who realesed scott lang from house arrest he learned that trick from antman. The last time we saw Darcy Lewis was in Thor the dark world when Thor fought the dark elf Malekith the sorceror who engineered the Aether during Convergence. Lewis is a former student of political science at Culver University who became an intern for Erik Selvig and Jane Foster's assistant. While working with the scientists, Lewis came into contact with Asgard when Thor arrived on Earth. This got to be the work of either Nightmare or Mephisto.

[@malikmartin7431]

The part where they showed vision being dead I felt sad for wanda

[@davidlu7167]

Speculation is that she reanimated Visions corpse and that’s why we saw him that way in the end

[@rikcoflores5588]

Yes Scarlett witch has the power to warp all reality she is an Omega level character like storm and phoenix

[@richardpage5812]

Exactly

[@elginbuyard1835]

Trey you killed me with watch till the end lol

[@dejonjanuary488]

"Talkin bout multitasking" had me dying

[@keyvonwashington5670]

I completely agree with you guys about hating casting spoilers because I’m the type of guy to completely stop watching something after being spoiled

[@huney8cocoa]

Here's some of the things I've noticed and believe is going on with Wanda. The reason why the reality in Westview is shown as sitcoms is possibly because Wanda grew up watching those old-time sitcoms, possibly as a way to learn English. At the end of episode 2 when color starts to form, Wanda did that because aspects of the real world were starting to interfere in her alternate reality, such as the colored helicopter. She decided to counter that by changing things up and making everything color so nothing would seem out of place if something else of color showed up. I haven't read the comics, so I don't know much of anything about Mephisto, but based on a lot of differing theories that I've heard, I believe that if he is involved, he is the one that gave Wanda the idea to create this town or take it over and make her own reality, as a solution for her to not have to deal with vision's death. I'm not sure what his endgame would be, but like I said I don't know anything about the character.

[@lizd2943]

I like the theory that he's Agnes's unseen husband. The devil's in the details. That's not the only place he is!

[@maad5372]

In the comics Wanda used Agnes’ power to create 2 children. But later it was revealed that they weren’t really her children. But 2 they were shards of Mephisto’s soul. So after he took them back. Agnes used her powers to erase the memory of Wanda having kids from her mind Becuz Wanda couldn’t handle it. But when Wanda found it. She hunted down Agnes for doing it and killed her.

[@phoenix4988]

Dark 😑

[@MADKIDD623BHN]

Nobody would've even known Wanda had her little town if the FBI wasn't coming there looking for that missing witness...

[@marvelboi3416]

You guys remember that Monica Rambeau is the little girl from Captain Marvel and her mom is Maria Rambeau Carol Danvers(Captain Marvel's) best friend and partner... In the comic books they stated that Wanda aka Scarlet Witch is the most powerful mutant ever even when the animated show X-Men: Evolution was on she is very powerful... Plus look who her father Magneto!!!

[@Joshiwelu]

Did you know that Kat Dennings character Darcy Lewis is a assistant of Professor Erik in Thor movies, and her role is very important there.

[@ncrouso]

Vision is physically there. She’s using his corpse as a puppet. When you saw his dead face it was because she was distracted it wasn’t a flashback.

[@DallasHustla2000]

I think it's more like that episode of Twilight zone where that kid had powers so the towns people did everything to make him happy. Some of them if not all of them know she doing something, but they can't stop her.

[@blakartist2000]

I think the next episode will deal with Wanda's view point before entering this bubble and how the bubble is created and I think that will playout in two episodes with the background of the other witches involved in manipulating Wanda (notice that Agnes doesn't have an I.D. on the profile board) and leading up to the conclusion in the last three episodes with a big bang. This series is following a three act story and we are now in the 2nd act revealing the narrative which I'm just saying will last for maybe two episodes and start the conclusion in episodes seven through nine. I think Monica will reenter the bubble and Wanda this time will disintegrate Monica and this will be the beginning origin story for Monica becoming the superhero Photon taking her mother flight name but she will regenerate in Captain Marvel 2 movie. This episode for the first time there was no commercial because we were out of the bubble for most of the episode.

[@Shadowcam00]

We're definitely getting some kind of junior avengers before long; Wanda's sons, Hawkeye and Ant Man's daughters, Miles Morales, Ironheart, Ms. Marvel, etc.

[@TonyH1992]

I think this takes place before “far from home”

[@jaysunleblanc3680]

Most definitely as it is confirmed that these first 4 episodes take place 3 weeks after endgame, and spider man far from home takes place 8 months after endgame. So there you go

[@TJUC123]

Definitely.

[@alexjd1278]

That makes sense i feel like more people would be busy with the new peter parker reveal so a lot would be going on

[@j.b8728]

Dorsey, the girl with the hat was on Thor. She was the assistant working getting school credit.

[@shemajdgantt5732]

This is a few weeks after Endgame, 2 or 3weeks to a month. It happens like 8 months before Far From Home. Thats probably why Doctor Strange was "busy" and couldn't help Peter. It's also why they believed Mysterio was from an alternate reality.

[@Brushless707]

I'm sure their setting up the kids becoming real by showing us Monica's clothes staying the same on the outside. The cable staying as a jump rope as well.

[@coreywallace2052]

Congrats on the 100k. All the hard work will and is paying off 🖤

[@Tempest1816]

You guys had one of the best reactions and understandings of what’s going on. 🙌🏾

[@YvngLarry]

I feel like when Wanda finds out her twins don’t exist she’ll become a villain in doctor strange or something like that

[@miguelhernandez5905]

The last time I think New Jersey was mentioned in the mcu was in the Captain America movies it’s where the idea of him was made and where he was trained to be a super soldier

[@testfire3000]

I appreciate that you prefer to watch shows as unspoiled as possible. You two are awesome.

[@rockycvs3]

Wanda is powering vision. Remember a infinity stone created her powers, and a stone powered vision...and she's powering him, now. Remember she was originally crazy when we first saw her and her brother in that cell.

[@Cabezon_305]

Y’all gotta react to WandaVision Breakdown Easter eggs episode 4 by New Rockstar - to really get a whole new understanding of the show and theories!

[@jcpelegreeno9900]

This was definitely a great episode, tying up everything that manifested so far with Wanda’s ability to warp reality. She pretty much took a whole town hostage and forged her own world. It was great to see things through Sword’s perspective and how they’re trying to connect and solve this anomaly after the world changed due to the snap & blip. I’m intrigued on how this story will progress in the back half of the season. I believe once everything breaks down, we’ll get an appearance from Doctor Strange at the end, thus foreshadowing her role in teaming up with him in the Multiverse of Madness. Also, going back to when Trey discussed Wanda’s emotional attachment, I believe the only members of the OG 6 Wanda was close with was Hawkeye & Cap. She had a lot of interactions with those 2 in particular. So with everyone she was close with now gone and Hawkeye & Cap both retired, Wanda is all alone and this reality she created is probably her way of coping with loss & loneliness.

[@shawnbrewington]

That Astronaut project tidbit may have been a Fantastic 4 reference... Also, remember, the gauntlet was snapped 4 times and the radiation spread throughout the universe (galaxy?), so this might be looked at and exaggerated later on in the MCU.

[@Gieser8]

Has anyone thought about her power upgrade could be from her connection to the Mind stone,and during her battle against Thanos(With the Infinity stones)absorbed some of the attributes of each of the other stones.Giving her the power levels that are now closer to her comic book version

[@70briareos]

I think Wanda re-animated Vision's corpse.

[@thechristianrosemanshow3102]

I’m glad this is picking up I’m intrigued that the story is coming together its good to see Darcy from Thor is back hope she’s in the fourth film

[@endamcnabola]

She wasn't announced, so...

[@kingsiree]

@@endamcnabola she actually was announced to be in the next movie. A lot of news outlets have covered it by now idk how you haven’t heard about it yet

[@ChrisDixon__]

Wanda would make an interesting antagonist. Also, I like the praise her character is getting.

[@tdslayer6302]

I think wanda made the alternate reality 1-3 weeks after they fought thanos in endgame only because when monica came back that was during the time bruce brought everyone back, and the director of sword (forgot his name right now) said she went back to work 3 weeks after she came back

[@nac3654]

CONGRATS ON 100K 🙌

[@vvs_N3bi]

I don’t know if y’all noticed but vision actually looks at the camera a lot in this show he’s trying to warn the sword agents.

[@jbrewerman2]

Its Mephisto in Vision mocking us, the viewers. Notice the amused malevolence of Vision's face in the very last moment of he and Wanda sitting on the couch with the twins. Note also the very first episode at the end, when Vision used the remote to create the hexagon that concluded the episode. Wanda stared outwards in a happy trance, while Vision (Mephisto) smiled then laughed at our cluelessness. Just a theory.

[@sammijo125]

You are so right about the episode ending so quickly. I was entranced by it. I just want to know if this Vision will still be alive with his powers at the end of the series.

[@Popcorn-ch7uy]

Monica Rambeau was the little girl from Captain Marvel

[@DoomTater86]

I don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but WandaVision takes place 3 weeks after the events of Endgame.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

i don't know the in-universe reason for westview, new jersey, but the real world reason is because alternate versions of vision and scarlet witch have lived in suburban new jersey in the comics.

[@illanohimitsu]

Congratulations to 100k subscribers!!! Gonna wait for the silver play button unboxing

[@rogermangue7604]

The Babies are Billy and Wiccam from the comics and are also Mephistos Children

[@zymir5494]

The fact that it was necromancy involved 😂 Disney crazy lol

[@barryallen6461]

If Hawkeye were there he probably could talk to her. She looks at him like a father figure

[@trevonevans7755]

AYYYYYE CONGRATS ON 100K GUYS LOVE YOUR CHANNEL💯❤️

[@keeflucci4575]

Congratulations on 100k subscribers 💪🏾🔥🥳

[@TheDejesius]

Also she killed a bunch of people on accident in Civil War, must have took a toll on her. Also in the original comics, Wanda and Visions first appearance together was in New Jersey.

[@darylifillifill1677]

I can't wait for Monica Rambeau to have her Powers

[@vortex_1336]

She already has them. Otherwise getting thrown like that would have killed or crippled her.

[@darylifillifill1677]

@@vortex_1336 Great point

[@itsfluffydd]

Congrats on the 100k subs guys!🎉🥳 you both definitely deserve it

[@MRGooodwineTV]

Damn 25 mins ? This is going to be a good one lol

[@hopelessnostalgic8444]

The town of Westview is indeed a real place but referring to what Monica said, the people around the town have amnesia probably due to Wanda not wanting anyone to notice what she's doing, which proves that her pocket reality is affecting people in the real world. Tasha was right the people in the town are real people who got assimilated into Wanda's sitcom lifestyle. SWORD identified them when they ran their faces through facial recognition and they printed their picture and attached their ID or driver's license with it on the corkboard. INTERESTINGLY, Agnes was the only one on the board who they did not have a "government name" for and she had no ID or driver's license next to her profile just the name "Agnes". Also makes me think that she is indeed the centuries old witch Agatha Harkness, which makes sense of why they don't have any information on her.

[@blusokrazy]

“the Drunk Uncle” 😂

[@kavikmute]

I don't think she's doing this alone. When agent Woo was identifying the people in Westview, the only one they couldn't identify was her neighbor Agnes. She may be another witch.

[@Destyn2b]

I believe the guy talking to Monica when she got to S.W.O.R.D. said it had been a few weeks.

[@DerrBeezy]

By far my favorite episode and the most interesting like damn it’s making sense now and so vision is actually dead still in the real world 🤔

[@HellfireComms]

Nice reaction guys! Story's really getting good now huh?

[@spccolts]

This entire series leads directly into the Doctor Strange 2 movie.

[@Tassy989]

Wanda is extremely powerful in this pocket dimension or reality that she has created. She seems to be in control of what people do and notice in the reality. That is why Vison didn't see Wanda expel Capt Rambo out of her pocket reality.

[@RomanCoronado]

I'm glad you brought up the emotional attachment and Tony Stark not being apart of it. Wanda justifiably has plenty to be...upset, for lack of a better word, at Tony. Her parents are dead because of Stark's weapons, her brother is dead because of Ultron, Tony's creation - yeah, Tony and Banner but Tony pushed for it more. But there's something else you didn't mention that I think might be even more important....Thanos. Wanda wanted to kill Thanos because of what he did to Vision. Did she get that chance in Endgame? Almost, but not quite. The kill went to who? Tony. Just one more thing Tony has TAKEN from Wanda. Has Tony ever meant to hurt Wanda? Of course not, we all know that. But for the amount of trauma she has experience in her life it was always due to something Tony did indirectly.

[@stinka4079]

I appreciate y'all. I'm less confused after watching your reactions.

[@jay83]

It's been said that this directly ties Into doctor strange 2

[@courtnicxsammyspn3993]

This was a great episode of Wandavision. And you two are fantastic, love your channel.

[@eddieterrell5215]

The town exist, thats why Monica and Woo have an awareness to it.

[@kavtoM]

What if she tries to bring back her brother or her kids but brings the mutant universe versions from different universe and others too

[@shemajdgantt5732]

She made it so that anybody w/ some sort of connection to WestView doesn't remember it exists.