Wanderer Tribal Infinite Reanimation Land Destruction Combo | Against the Odds | Historic (MTG)

[@davidsabotta6528]

The passive on big Wanderer continues to elude poor Seth.

[@MistaZiggy]

Also the ability to bounce an opponents creature for essentially forever

[@Brodysseous]

"Look at these dummies letting The Eternal Wanderer live." -Seth probably

[@zachgray4767]

It's becoming a family tradition.

[@benpouy3345]

They hinted at a homonculus and cyclops pairing in march of the machine which is very likely fblthp and borborygmos

[@TinyLegs15243]

Perhaps more likely zyndersplit and Okuan

[@benpouy3345]

@@TinyLegs15243 I don’t know, the focus of these legends are unlikely pairings, and Okaun and Zndrsplt are literally partners

[@draconocor]

Where was the hint? Not doubting you just can't find it

[@TinyLegs15243]

@@benpouy3345 I mean I hope your right, fblthp and borborymos would be way more fun!

[@TinyLegs15243]

@@draconocor it was on mark rosewaters blog, he gave out his customary list of spoilers/things to look out for in the set.

[@poiri]

12:36 the play was definitely to let them keep deaths shadow and just attack for lethal

[@Volbeat1117]

Just saw the same thing and had to check the comments to make sure I'm not just an idiot 😂😂

[@razaele5495]

Time to yell at the screen, yep... Luckily there were no comeback for the opponent

[@nickzaharko5476]

Yea same haha😂

[@Iceflamemaster]

Also the pain lands make replaying the kroxa lethal

[@jayforty7]

You cant attack for lethal, it's EACH PLAYER sacs not just opponent

[@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle]

16:43 Seth forgetting that only one creature can attack eternal wanderer at a time

[@kirillm2517]

I'm pretty sure he was commenting on the opponent attacking Seth for 2 and wanderer for 1 instead of the other way around. That let him keep Wanderer after wrathing.

[@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle]

​@@kirillm2517 "well if they both go after wanderer we can't wrath next turn" disagrees with you

[@crayyonnyadrav4055]

He got real good by that Tithe. Like Seth always says: No one expects teh Mana Tithe.

[@OftenAlwaysFresh]

Seth: "Opponent plays a lurus" Seth's Sideboard: Leyline of the Void "And I took that personally"

[@tobyklase8179]

That Mana Tithe into another Command the Dread horde was epic!

[@allopeth]

18:18 Brutal Mana tithe!!! :D. Looks like Seth got a taste of his own medicine ^_^

[@blueplayer6197]

Seth, I really appreciate that you chose to do against the odds as against the odds rather than make a tier deck with busted cards. It's great and I loved it.

[@dee-wreck]

Wasn't sure what kind of odds you were gonna do after the poll but dang did not expect this.

[@kamikazebanzai1005]

That's a title

[@that1guy811]

LMAO THE MANA TITHE!

[@TheArbieo]

Nobody expects it and Seth is not nobody.

[@jamesrule1338]

That Mana Tithe though.

[@sailorforce]

So, getting back the Wanderer with your Command the Dreadhorde would stop you from taking damage to the spell, right?

[@marc-philipschuler107]

Sadly it doesn't. Command the dreadhorde deals damage to you before it puts the permanents into play.

[@Metallicity]

Both cards were printed in the very same set, so the somewhat unusual ordering of dealing damage before bringing the creatures back was likely an intention decision to avoid this exact interaction.

[@muditjohar5323]

I honestly thought you were just going to do the normal burn down the house thing or something. So I picked something else. So glad wanderer got picked since this seems very fun

[@marcusgifford8126]

I used to play the wanderer and command in standard and I loved it thank you Seth for the nostalgia

[@gabrote42]

Lovely thumbnail. The games were very interesting but you keep forgetting about some things, like the Champion passive on Eternal Wanderer.

[@navarrebaharestan5209]

He missed lethal in the first game with the first eternal wanderer 😭

[@ericfletcher7046]

I was hoping for a loss because of The Wanderer being removed in response to Command the Dreadhorde. But considering how little the combo happened I am happy with how this went anyways.

[@jaxsonbateman]

Honestly, I appreciate the deck building philosophy of building your deck to the power level of who you're playing with (or, in this case, to the power level of "Against The Odds" decks). My favourite format is essentially kitchen table/eternal, with a more casual flair (so really nothing that would be considered truly competitive in any major format), and with that in mind I often have to not go for the most powerful cards, because they're not casual enough. But don't get me wrong; I actually love being able to build like that. It's great getting to play archetypes that would never otherwise see the light of day. I've even managed to get a couple of wins with my stupid, stupid goat tribal deck. :P

[@xaropevic7918]

Wait, how does goats tribal deck work?

[@jaxsonbateman]

@@xaropevic7918 Well it's definitely not nearly competitive! :P It was years ago now, but it was built largely around Springjack Shepherd and Soul Foundry; Soul Foundry to get heaps of Shepherds, and Shepherd as a card capable of producing tonnes of tokens. Eldrazi Monument and Coat of Arms as finishers.

[@xaropevic7918]

@@jaxsonbateman Do you have a list?

[@jaxsonbateman]

@@xaropevic7918 I don't have a list as this was years ago and in paper, but if I were to recreate it, I'd start with the below. It's 21 nonlands (and 4 lands; I'd say 4x Springjack Pasture is almost a requirement for a goat tribal deck :P ); just need ~15 more nonlands that help the deck out as best you see fit. For those, you can either go with more cheap goats (there's a 1 and 2 mana changeling that work well), cards that ideally provide card advantage but also chroma/devotion, or cards that protect your permanents, especially your artifacts (Soul Foundry will take you far if it imprints a Springjack Shepherd and sticks around, but you lose a lot of potential if it gets destroyed). Helm of the Host is a card that didn't exist at the time and can be used for something similar, without risking the raw creature to exile - in fact, it may even be the better option nowadays as white can easily include a couple cards as a just in case for cards that go to the graveyard (Trading Post can already get back an artifact by sacrificing a creature, and you could run either Conqueror's Galleon or an Emeria package to get back creatures). Nonland 4 Metallic Mimic (2 mana 'goat' that lets other goats entering the battlefield enter with a +1/+1 counter; great for tokens) 4 And They Shall Know No Fear (2 mana instant that makes your goats indestructible) 4 Mirror Entity (3 mana 'goat', legit wincon for odd tribes like this, especially if they're token based) 4 Springjack Shepherd (4 mana 1/2 creature that essentially creates goats equal to your devotion to white) 2 Trading Post (4 mana artifact that can make a goat for 1 life and 1 mana) 3 Soul Foundry (4 mana artifact that you imprint a creature card on, and can then make token copies of that card - primarily for Springjack Shepherd) 2 Eldrazi Monument (5 mana artifact that makes your creatures bigger, gives them flying and indestructible, and only has the requirement of saccing a creature - probably a token - each upkeep) Land 4 Springjack Pasture (turns goat tokens into mana and lifegain, and can also make them, though expensively)

[@xaropevic7918]

@@jaxsonbateman Thank you, I did a commander version by using Sol, Advocate Eternal (even though Idk it is legal, but come on, anybody should allow it to see goats) as commander plus Springjack Shepherd as its partner. I preferred a traditional monowhite list, with a few caveats to survive and put as many white permanents as possible before adding Springjack Shepherd. I focused on cards that abuse so many tokens such as Adeline, Elesh Norn the Mother of Machines, Mondrak Glory Dominus, Rumor Gatherer, other 2 lands that have sinergy with token generation are Shephet Dunes and Windbrisk Heights, some enchantments such as Call For Unity and Annoyinted Procession 1x Adeline, Resplendent Cathar 1x Adorned Pouncer 1x Alms Collector 1x Alseid of Life's Bounty 1x Ancient Tomb 1x And They Shall Know No Fear 1x Angel of Jubilation 1x Anointed Procession 1x Archaeomancer's Map 1x Baird, Steward of Argive 1x Banisher Priest 1x Basri Ket 1x Benalish Marshal 1x Brave the Elements 1x Break of Day 1x Brought Back 1x Brutal Cathar 1x Call for Unity 1x Cave of the Frost Dragon 1x Cliffside Lookout 1x Coat of Arms 1x Consul's Lieutenant 1x Daxos, Blessed by the Sun 1x Dramatic Finale 1x Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire 1x Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines 1x Emeria, The Sky Ruin 1x Enlightened Tutor 1x Esper Sentinel 1x Fiend Hunter 1x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar 1x Giver of Runes 1x Grand Abolisher 1x Haazda Marshal 1x Hall of Heliod's Generosity 1x Hall of the Bandit Lord 1x Hero of Bladehold 1x Intrepid Adversary 1x Knight of the White Orchid 1x Kytheon's Tactics 1x Kytheon, Hero of Akros 1x Land Tax 1x Luminous Broodmoth 1x Mana Tithe 1x Mentor of the Meek 1x Mirror Entity 1x Mondrak, Glory Dominus 1x Mother of Runes 1x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx 1x Nyx Lotus 1x Ornithopter of Paradise 1x Paladin Class 1x Path to Exile 24x Plains 1x Rootborn Defenses 1x Rumor Gatherer 1x Scapegoat 1x Selfless Savior 1x Shefet Dunes 1x Skullclamp 1x Skyclave Apparition 1x Smothering Tithe 1x Sol Ring 1x Sol, Advocate Eternal *CMDR* 1x Springjack Pasture 1x Springjack Shepherd *CMDR* 1x Sundering Growth 1x Swiftfoot Boots 1x Taj-Nar Swordsmith 1x Teferi's Protection 1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 1x Thalia, Heretic Cathar 1x Thraben Inspector 1x Tithe Taker 1x Trading Post 1x Weathered Wayfarer 1x Windbrisk Heights

[@xander_man]

+10 flavour points for casting Command the Dreadhorde against a whole pile of fallen soldiers. Oof.

[@SourSlurpee]

Fblthp the lost and Azusa, Lost but Seeking

[@the_r4ts]

Sadly teamup card characters have to be from the same plane but that would be really funny

[@mth4456]

Fbilthp and Storm Crow. He rides it into battle

[@PerhapsOOTMM]

Phibelthp (spelling?) and Niv-Mizzet would be an amusing team-up

[@ryanlarson9239]

Seth’s pronunciation of the Chanel lands might top my list of sethisms

[@maciek19882]

WhAt a cute thumbnail

[@christianbarrett3040]

I wanna see you play a Mangara of Corondor and Eldrazi Displacer combo deck in the current modern meta.

[@t.j.hemphill7844]

Neat deck idea, I also love the thumbnail with toast Wanderer

[@mangoalias608]

i feel like mtggoldfish is conspiring behind the scenes to make land destruction a part of the historic meta... just based on recent videos

[@chrishoye55]

I also really like where this deck ended up. Fblthp and Lavinia would be a great combo

[@Red-Yo]

I gotta admit, you’re one of my favourite MTGA channels like not goldfish itself, but you, because I know sometimes goldfish has other channel hosts but they don’t do it like you man 🎉 ❤

[@Crusina]

NGL I was really hoping to see something like The Wanderer/Command The Dreadhorde but I didn't hold up to much hope but YOU DID IT

[@Crusina]

I literally named a deck "I hate lifegain" and filled it with some mill and a bunch of powerful planeswalkers and boardwipes and just have fun.

[@vitortrindade5617]

Seth, you underestimate how fun it can be for the viewer jamming a weird card in a established deck. Yes, i would prefer if it was control with all the wanderers

[@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS]

The phtlbflp partner should definitely be a cyclops so it can be those two, binocular vision

[@choppyhen]

I wonder if an ichormoon gauntlet could slot in, maybe even in the sideboard to help finish out the grindy matches, because when the command+wanderer goes off and you end up with 3 planeswalkers, it seems like the gauntlet would be amazing, especially being able to add counters to the OG wanderer

[@hyperion9934]

In regards to teamup containing Fblthp, Blogatog teased a Homunculus Cyclops legend which is either Fblthp and Borboygmos or Zndrsplt and Okoun. Unless it isn't going to be a team up and is a new legend.

[@vivianvicious]

The way you say Eiganjo has me like beyond sent. I cant even focus anymore.

[@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle]

Good 'ol eijano

[@alittlepeace6192]

"I don't want to just play stuff into it", things you'll never hear him say about esper sentinel or rhystic study on commander clash lolol

[@kylarcheng1346]

Love the thumbnail art with bread in mouth

[@adamtobiasz8793]

Another good episode brother Set, however the deck is too expensive on paper for me. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@ninshjok]

One of the videos I enjoy more is the against the odds, especially when is hard to build becouse the cards are too god... so I really apraciate your effort loved the idea!

[@dmany13]

I swear in death shadow match up Seth has the actual wonderer he needs in his yard to not take damage

[@poiri]

If you mean what I think you do, Command the dreadhorde deals damage before putting stuff onto the battlefield

[@dmany13]

​@@poiri really I thought that the static would counteract it. Kinda like how of you use reanimate to get backa. Vilis the broker you still draw 8 cause you lost 8 life and vilis still saw it. So I assume wonder does the same

[@poiri]

@@dmany13 the difference is the order on the card, reanimate puts it into play then loses the life while command goes opposite order. If you get a Villi’s with Command you wouldn’t draw cards either.

[@xever61]

but he said original wanderer actually protects against command the dreadhorde at the start of the video? So there is actually no point to include wanderer?

[@Zanzibawrr]

That was a fucking EPIC mana tithe.

[@antsjohnson9379]

Fblthp and Norin the Wary partner up already happened. We'll just never see it.

[@streiifi]

historic is such a cool format, i hope they add more and more cards to it that arent allowed in older formats

[@adamfiliatreault3393]

I especially like that it's pretty much the only format where green is viable

[@olafthemoose9413]

​@@adamfiliatreault3393 mono G devotion in explorer: am I a joke to you?

[@pedrobianchi2412]

That mana tithe game 3 was awesome!

[@nothumanaftrall2068]

Just personally thinks that if there’s ever a time where you have to “wish your opponent has a bad hand” like at 20:20 thats the one of the strongest arguments for banning a card from that deck lmao

[@Drana3308]

That mana tithe was amazingn

[@T47Night]

Borborygmos and Flbthpt

[@LedPESRule]

19:25 Shouting at the screen, you have the Wanderer in graveyard Seth! Didn't notice on either of the 2 Dreadhordes cast

[@Th3Hunter333]

That doesnt work like that, command deals the damage before the wanderer enters the battlefield

[@LedPESRule]

@@Th3Hunter333 Ah, lol, fair enough, here I am punting without even playing. That combo really is jank though, damn

[@79awinkler]

What hung Seth getting mana tithed was amazing.

[@bryantan4228]

12:52 If they get Kroxa back with three Sulferous Springs they’ll be dead before it hits the board

[@logansmall5148]

That clutch mana tithe, lol

[@homebrewed]

Amazing games though here - that Death Shadow game like WOW!

[@rubesqubes1997]

Hey Seth, any chance the channel will ever do Pauper content again?

[@DoomSpellSkadi]

17:50 Will the command reanime WAR wanderer with all other plantswalker can prevent damage from the command.

[@scottcampbell9515]

Now build a deck with Command the Dreadhorde, and the emblem from Gideon of the Trials.

[@dementievatz]

That actually would work with bringing Gideon back if you already had the emblem, right? Since you wouldn’t lose to state based effects until Command the Dreadhorde finished resolving.

[@KairahVTVods]

Well we know the pairing for MoM is "Homunculus Cyclops" So theres only two legendaries of that pairing I can think of and one of them is Ravnica, soo I forsee Fblthp, pairing with Borborygmos

[@craktok]

I think he should partner with Norin the Wary.

[@rkbmcb]

Fblthp and Niv-Mizzet

[@cuddlequeen3225]

Dang, what a title.

[@volosguidetomonsters3440]

If you wanted to make the deck good you could cut the Sunderings and maybe blue altogether to strengthen the main gameplan. Or maybe include cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable instead of mill creatures and add some wraths

[@-homerow-]

This format is hilarious

[@ricardoalarcon5144]

That mana tithe ❤

[@brendanfletcher7477]

Hey, when March of the Machine comes out, do you think you could do an against the odds equipment tribal deck featuring all the swords Elspeth has used?

[@OneThousandTinyElephants]

The title is like five decks in one

[@trovinceia678]

I’ve actually built wander tribal, it’s my favorite deck

[@ska3041]

You had them dead you pick the tapped dude

[@MrNukealizer]

I feel like this kind of deck would work a lot better in explorer than historic. You could replace the Sundering Titan with something else and use better lands while facing generally slower decks.

[@gabekeeter6415]

The Wando Combo

[@SnakeyBoiii871]

Fblthp and Noran just for the scared factor

[@doormatt72]

that mana tithe. omg. wow wow wow.

[@KVGKQuake]

The best Phlthp pairing would be with Rakdos. What they would do is beyond me

[@Gizmosurfin]

Sunflower Plains :)

[@Xesh]

My brother, if you're looking for a cheap card similar to Raffine's Informant, please consider Evangel of Synthesis- I play them both in my Esper reanimator deck to great effect

[@Pandajannick]

FBLTHP AND BORBORYGMOS FTW

[@itsallenwow]

Fblthp / Azusa - Incredibly lost duo

[@MineRoyale.]

this deck needs some ramp and/or land search to have any hope of actually casting the six drops at a meaningful rate. Something like the Restoration of Eiganjo would have helped considerably.

[@MineRoyale.]

Also, it should be running like 27 lands, presumably cutting the sundering titans (which do very little) for the extra three plus some actual functioning manabase

[@Shimatzu95]

Deckname suggestion: Dread Wanderers Also if you were to reanimate 2 wandering emperors can you activate both before one dies?

[@thekornknownasme]

Azusa and Fblthp, Totally Lost but Seeking

[@Frostgiantbutsmall]

Been wanting to get into pioneer lately, that mono-g game reminded me how shit the game-play is. Thanks for the wake-up call!

[@blackiscolor7732]

have you tried historic tron yet?!

[@ZatCast]

Fblthp and Azusa, lost and seeking (it would have to be commander deck cuz Azusa long gone)

[@ferdithetank7535]

Wandering Waifu tribal without Crim? Blasphemy!

[@ajax4709]

I have literally never seen the card command the dreadhorde.

[@TripsAhoy]

Mana tithe still damn good! Lol

[@g12bzy]

Fblthp and Norin the Wary

[@syntec4322]

I really appreciate how Seth continues to refuse to play "fake cards" lmao

[@KnicKnac]

Because Alchemy is garbage

[@wafflesporq]

you put air quotes in like they're not fake cards

[@LadyMorrigan]

He has played the juggernaut peddler on occasion and admitted that he thought it was a fun card. I kinda wish there was a way to make it work in paper magic too.

[@wafflesporq]

@@LadyMorrigan no it is fake

[@olafthemoose9413]

​@@LadyMorrigan I man the juggernaut peddler could pretty much work in paper. Just bring some juggernauts and sleeve them up.

[@dodotornado]

Am I wrong or should the deck have more lands?

[@DDNEV]

Fblthp needs to pair up with Norin the Wary.

[@JacoDeltaco]

what it going on with the shuffler

[@petersteiman2443]

It was cool when it worked dude.

[@SuenteusPi]

Fblthp used to be on a team-up card, but then he lost track of his buddy

[@thork_tv]

Match one Game two: why Not let the tapped Out opponent have the tappt DS and Attack for lethal?

[@gregthewalnut603]

Calling it bow, Flblthp and Borborygmos

[@hiimemily]

Is it really tribal when she doesn't have a subtype?

[@jakevuckturd1201]

It's so sad you can't use deification on the wander because she doesn't have a Planeswalker type

[@Plexiux]

Not a partner pairing but how about a saga: Fblthp rallies the Atogs

[@wpmer]

Borborygmos flinging flbithp or other Homoncs would be funny

[@hamishian0]

Flbthp and his dad. Together again.