The passive on big Wanderer continues to elude poor Seth.
@MistaZiggy Жыл бұрын
Also the ability to bounce an opponents creature for essentially forever
@Brodysseous Жыл бұрын
"Look at these dummies letting The Eternal Wanderer live." -Seth probably
@zachgray4767 Жыл бұрын
It's becoming a family tradition.
@benpouy3345 Жыл бұрын
They hinted at a homonculus and cyclops pairing in march of the machine which is very likely fblthp and borborygmos
@TinyLegs15243 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps more likely zyndersplit and Okuan
@benpouy3345 Жыл бұрын
@@TinyLegs15243 I don’t know, the focus of these legends are unlikely pairings, and Okaun and Zndrsplt are literally partners
@draconocor Жыл бұрын
Where was the hint? Not doubting you just can't find it
@TinyLegs15243 Жыл бұрын
@@benpouy3345 I mean I hope your right, fblthp and borborymos would be way more fun!
@TinyLegs15243 Жыл бұрын
@@draconocor it was on mark rosewaters blog, he gave out his customary list of spoilers/things to look out for in the set.
@poiri Жыл бұрын
12:36 the play was definitely to let them keep deaths shadow and just attack for lethal
@Volbeat1117 Жыл бұрын
Just saw the same thing and had to check the comments to make sure I'm not just an idiot 😂😂
@razaele5495 Жыл бұрын
Time to yell at the screen, yep... Luckily there were no comeback for the opponent
@nickzaharko5476 Жыл бұрын
Yea same haha😂
@Iceflamemaster Жыл бұрын
Also the pain lands make replaying the kroxa lethal
@jayforty712 күн бұрын
You cant attack for lethal, it's EACH PLAYER sacs not just opponent
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Жыл бұрын
16:43 Seth forgetting that only one creature can attack eternal wanderer at a time
@kirillm2517 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was commenting on the opponent attacking Seth for 2 and wanderer for 1 instead of the other way around. That let him keep Wanderer after wrathing.
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Жыл бұрын
@@kirillm2517 "well if they both go after wanderer we can't wrath next turn" disagrees with you
@crayyonnyadrav4055 Жыл бұрын
He got real good by that Tithe. Like Seth always says: No one expects teh Mana Tithe.
@OftenAlwaysFresh Жыл бұрын
Seth: "Opponent plays a lurus" Seth's Sideboard: Leyline of the Void "And I took that personally"
@tobyklase8179 Жыл бұрын
That Mana Tithe into another Command the Dread horde was epic!
@allopeth Жыл бұрын
18:18 Brutal Mana tithe!!! :D. Looks like Seth got a taste of his own medicine ^_^
@blueplayer6197 Жыл бұрын
Seth, I really appreciate that you chose to do against the odds as against the odds rather than make a tier deck with busted cards. It's great and I loved it.
@dee-wreck Жыл бұрын
Wasn't sure what kind of odds you were gonna do after the poll but dang did not expect this.
@kamikazebanzai1005 Жыл бұрын
That's a title
@that1guy811 Жыл бұрын
LMAO THE MANA TITHE!
@TheArbieo Жыл бұрын
Nobody expects it and Seth is not nobody.
@jamesrule1338 Жыл бұрын
That Mana Tithe though.
@sailorforce Жыл бұрын
So, getting back the Wanderer with your Command the Dreadhorde would stop you from taking damage to the spell, right?
@marc-philipschuler107 Жыл бұрын
Sadly it doesn't. Command the dreadhorde deals damage to you before it puts the permanents into play.
@Metallicity Жыл бұрын
Both cards were printed in the very same set, so the somewhat unusual ordering of dealing damage before bringing the creatures back was likely an intention decision to avoid this exact interaction.
@muditjohar5323 Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought you were just going to do the normal burn down the house thing or something. So I picked something else. So glad wanderer got picked since this seems very fun
@marcusgifford8126 Жыл бұрын
I used to play the wanderer and command in standard and I loved it thank you Seth for the nostalgia
@gabrote42 Жыл бұрын
Lovely thumbnail. The games were very interesting but you keep forgetting about some things, like the Champion passive on Eternal Wanderer.
@navarrebaharestan5209 Жыл бұрын
He missed lethal in the first game with the first eternal wanderer 😭
@ericfletcher7046 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a loss because of The Wanderer being removed in response to Command the Dreadhorde. But considering how little the combo happened I am happy with how this went anyways.
@jaxsonbateman Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I appreciate the deck building philosophy of building your deck to the power level of who you're playing with (or, in this case, to the power level of "Against The Odds" decks). My favourite format is essentially kitchen table/eternal, with a more casual flair (so really nothing that would be considered truly competitive in any major format), and with that in mind I often have to not go for the most powerful cards, because they're not casual enough. But don't get me wrong; I actually love being able to build like that. It's great getting to play archetypes that would never otherwise see the light of day. I've even managed to get a couple of wins with my stupid, stupid goat tribal deck. :P
@xaropevic7918 Жыл бұрын
Wait, how does goats tribal deck work?
@jaxsonbateman Жыл бұрын
@@xaropevic7918 Well it's definitely not nearly competitive! :P It was years ago now, but it was built largely around Springjack Shepherd and Soul Foundry; Soul Foundry to get heaps of Shepherds, and Shepherd as a card capable of producing tonnes of tokens. Eldrazi Monument and Coat of Arms as finishers.
@xaropevic7918 Жыл бұрын
@@jaxsonbateman Do you have a list?
@jaxsonbateman Жыл бұрын
@@xaropevic7918 I don't have a list as this was years ago and in paper, but if I were to recreate it, I'd start with the below. It's 21 nonlands (and 4 lands; I'd say 4x Springjack Pasture is almost a requirement for a goat tribal deck :P ); just need ~15 more nonlands that help the deck out as best you see fit. For those, you can either go with more cheap goats (there's a 1 and 2 mana changeling that work well), cards that ideally provide card advantage but also chroma/devotion, or cards that protect your permanents, especially your artifacts (Soul Foundry will take you far if it imprints a Springjack Shepherd and sticks around, but you lose a lot of potential if it gets destroyed). Helm of the Host is a card that didn't exist at the time and can be used for something similar, without risking the raw creature to exile - in fact, it may even be the better option nowadays as white can easily include a couple cards as a just in case for cards that go to the graveyard (Trading Post can already get back an artifact by sacrificing a creature, and you could run either Conqueror's Galleon or an Emeria package to get back creatures). Nonland 4 Metallic Mimic (2 mana 'goat' that lets other goats entering the battlefield enter with a +1/+1 counter; great for tokens) 4 And They Shall Know No Fear (2 mana instant that makes your goats indestructible) 4 Mirror Entity (3 mana 'goat', legit wincon for odd tribes like this, especially if they're token based) 4 Springjack Shepherd (4 mana 1/2 creature that essentially creates goats equal to your devotion to white) 2 Trading Post (4 mana artifact that can make a goat for 1 life and 1 mana) 3 Soul Foundry (4 mana artifact that you imprint a creature card on, and can then make token copies of that card - primarily for Springjack Shepherd) 2 Eldrazi Monument (5 mana artifact that makes your creatures bigger, gives them flying and indestructible, and only has the requirement of saccing a creature - probably a token - each upkeep) Land 4 Springjack Pasture (turns goat tokens into mana and lifegain, and can also make them, though expensively)
@xaropevic7918 Жыл бұрын
@@jaxsonbateman Thank you, I did a commander version by using Sol, Advocate Eternal (even though Idk it is legal, but come on, anybody should allow it to see goats) as commander plus Springjack Shepherd as its partner. I preferred a traditional monowhite list, with a few caveats to survive and put as many white permanents as possible before adding Springjack Shepherd. I focused on cards that abuse so many tokens such as Adeline, Elesh Norn the Mother of Machines, Mondrak Glory Dominus, Rumor Gatherer, other 2 lands that have sinergy with token generation are Shephet Dunes and Windbrisk Heights, some enchantments such as Call For Unity and Annoyinted Procession 1x Adeline, Resplendent Cathar 1x Adorned Pouncer 1x Alms Collector 1x Alseid of Life's Bounty 1x Ancient Tomb 1x And They Shall Know No Fear 1x Angel of Jubilation 1x Anointed Procession 1x Archaeomancer's Map 1x Baird, Steward of Argive 1x Banisher Priest 1x Basri Ket 1x Benalish Marshal 1x Brave the Elements 1x Break of Day 1x Brought Back 1x Brutal Cathar 1x Call for Unity 1x Cave of the Frost Dragon 1x Cliffside Lookout 1x Coat of Arms 1x Consul's Lieutenant 1x Daxos, Blessed by the Sun 1x Dramatic Finale 1x Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire 1x Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines 1x Emeria, The Sky Ruin 1x Enlightened Tutor 1x Esper Sentinel 1x Fiend Hunter 1x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar 1x Giver of Runes 1x Grand Abolisher 1x Haazda Marshal 1x Hall of Heliod's Generosity 1x Hall of the Bandit Lord 1x Hero of Bladehold 1x Intrepid Adversary 1x Knight of the White Orchid 1x Kytheon's Tactics 1x Kytheon, Hero of Akros 1x Land Tax 1x Luminous Broodmoth 1x Mana Tithe 1x Mentor of the Meek 1x Mirror Entity 1x Mondrak, Glory Dominus 1x Mother of Runes 1x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx 1x Nyx Lotus 1x Ornithopter of Paradise 1x Paladin Class 1x Path to Exile 24x Plains 1x Rootborn Defenses 1x Rumor Gatherer 1x Scapegoat 1x Selfless Savior 1x Shefet Dunes 1x Skullclamp 1x Skyclave Apparition 1x Smothering Tithe 1x Sol Ring 1x Sol, Advocate Eternal *CMDR* 1x Springjack Pasture 1x Springjack Shepherd *CMDR* 1x Sundering Growth 1x Swiftfoot Boots 1x Taj-Nar Swordsmith 1x Teferi's Protection 1x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 1x Thalia, Heretic Cathar 1x Thraben Inspector 1x Tithe Taker 1x Trading Post 1x Weathered Wayfarer 1x Windbrisk Heights
@xander_man Жыл бұрын
+10 flavour points for casting Command the Dreadhorde against a whole pile of fallen soldiers. Oof.
@SourSlurpee Жыл бұрын
Fblthp the lost and Azusa, Lost but Seeking
@the_r4ts Жыл бұрын
Sadly teamup card characters have to be from the same plane but that would be really funny
@mth4456 Жыл бұрын
Fbilthp and Storm Crow. He rides it into battle
@PerhapsOOTMM Жыл бұрын
Phibelthp (spelling?) and Niv-Mizzet would be an amusing team-up
@ryanlarson9239 Жыл бұрын
Seth’s pronunciation of the Chanel lands might top my list of sethisms
@maciek19882 Жыл бұрын
WhAt a cute thumbnail
@christianbarrett3040 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see you play a Mangara of Corondor and Eldrazi Displacer combo deck in the current modern meta.
@t.j.hemphill7844 Жыл бұрын
Neat deck idea, I also love the thumbnail with toast Wanderer
@mangoalias608 Жыл бұрын
i feel like mtggoldfish is conspiring behind the scenes to make land destruction a part of the historic meta... just based on recent videos
@chrishoye55 Жыл бұрын
I also really like where this deck ended up. Fblthp and Lavinia would be a great combo
@Red-Yo Жыл бұрын
I gotta admit, you’re one of my favourite MTGA channels like not goldfish itself, but you, because I know sometimes goldfish has other channel hosts but they don’t do it like you man 🎉 ❤
@Crusina Жыл бұрын
NGL I was really hoping to see something like The Wanderer/Command The Dreadhorde but I didn't hold up to much hope but YOU DID IT
@Crusina Жыл бұрын
I literally named a deck "I hate lifegain" and filled it with some mill and a bunch of powerful planeswalkers and boardwipes and just have fun.
@vitortrindade5617 Жыл бұрын
Seth, you underestimate how fun it can be for the viewer jamming a weird card in a established deck. Yes, i would prefer if it was control with all the wanderers
@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS Жыл бұрын
The phtlbflp partner should definitely be a cyclops so it can be those two, binocular vision
@choppyhen Жыл бұрын
I wonder if an ichormoon gauntlet could slot in, maybe even in the sideboard to help finish out the grindy matches, because when the command+wanderer goes off and you end up with 3 planeswalkers, it seems like the gauntlet would be amazing, especially being able to add counters to the OG wanderer
@hyperion9934 Жыл бұрын
In regards to teamup containing Fblthp, Blogatog teased a Homunculus Cyclops legend which is either Fblthp and Borboygmos or Zndrsplt and Okoun. Unless it isn't going to be a team up and is a new legend.
@vivianvicious Жыл бұрын
The way you say Eiganjo has me like beyond sent. I cant even focus anymore.
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Жыл бұрын
Good 'ol eijano
@alittlepeace6192 Жыл бұрын
"I don't want to just play stuff into it", things you'll never hear him say about esper sentinel or rhystic study on commander clash lolol
@kylarcheng1346 Жыл бұрын
Love the thumbnail art with bread in mouth
@adamtobiasz8793 Жыл бұрын
Another good episode brother Set, however the deck is too expensive on paper for me. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@ninshjok Жыл бұрын
One of the videos I enjoy more is the against the odds, especially when is hard to build becouse the cards are too god... so I really apraciate your effort loved the idea!
@dmany13 Жыл бұрын
I swear in death shadow match up Seth has the actual wonderer he needs in his yard to not take damage
@poiri Жыл бұрын
If you mean what I think you do, Command the dreadhorde deals damage before putting stuff onto the battlefield
@dmany13 Жыл бұрын
@@poiri really I thought that the static would counteract it. Kinda like how of you use reanimate to get backa. Vilis the broker you still draw 8 cause you lost 8 life and vilis still saw it. So I assume wonder does the same
@poiri Жыл бұрын
@@dmany13 the difference is the order on the card, reanimate puts it into play then loses the life while command goes opposite order. If you get a Villi’s with Command you wouldn’t draw cards either.
@xever61 Жыл бұрын
but he said original wanderer actually protects against command the dreadhorde at the start of the video? So there is actually no point to include wanderer?
@Zanzibawrr Жыл бұрын
That was a fucking EPIC mana tithe.
@antsjohnson9379 Жыл бұрын
Fblthp and Norin the Wary partner up already happened. We'll just never see it.
@streiifi Жыл бұрын
historic is such a cool format, i hope they add more and more cards to it that arent allowed in older formats
@adamfiliatreault3393 Жыл бұрын
I especially like that it's pretty much the only format where green is viable
@olafthemoose9413 Жыл бұрын
@@adamfiliatreault3393 mono G devotion in explorer: am I a joke to you?
@pedrobianchi2412 Жыл бұрын
That mana tithe game 3 was awesome!
@nothumanaftrall2068 Жыл бұрын
Just personally thinks that if there’s ever a time where you have to “wish your opponent has a bad hand” like at 20:20 thats the one of the strongest arguments for banning a card from that deck lmao
@Drana33085 ай бұрын
That mana tithe was amazingn
@T47Night Жыл бұрын
Borborygmos and Flbthpt
@LedPESRule Жыл бұрын
19:25 Shouting at the screen, you have the Wanderer in graveyard Seth! Didn't notice on either of the 2 Dreadhordes cast
@Th3Hunter333 Жыл бұрын
That doesnt work like that, command deals the damage before the wanderer enters the battlefield
@LedPESRule Жыл бұрын
@@Th3Hunter333 Ah, lol, fair enough, here I am punting without even playing. That combo really is jank though, damn
@79awinkler Жыл бұрын
What hung Seth getting mana tithed was amazing.
@bryantan4228 Жыл бұрын
12:52 If they get Kroxa back with three Sulferous Springs they’ll be dead before it hits the board
@logansmall5148 Жыл бұрын
That clutch mana tithe, lol
@homebrewed Жыл бұрын
Amazing games though here - that Death Shadow game like WOW!
@rubesqubes1997 Жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, any chance the channel will ever do Pauper content again?
@DoomSpellSkadi Жыл бұрын
17:50 Will the command reanime WAR wanderer with all other plantswalker can prevent damage from the command.
@scottcampbell9515 Жыл бұрын
Now build a deck with Command the Dreadhorde, and the emblem from Gideon of the Trials.
@dementievatz Жыл бұрын
That actually would work with bringing Gideon back if you already had the emblem, right? Since you wouldn’t lose to state based effects until Command the Dreadhorde finished resolving.
@KairahVTVods Жыл бұрын
Well we know the pairing for MoM is "Homunculus Cyclops" So theres only two legendaries of that pairing I can think of and one of them is Ravnica, soo I forsee Fblthp, pairing with Borborygmos
@craktok Жыл бұрын
I think he should partner with Norin the Wary.
@rkbmcb Жыл бұрын
Fblthp and Niv-Mizzet
@cuddlequeen32259 ай бұрын
Dang, what a title.
@volosguidetomonsters344010 күн бұрын
If you wanted to make the deck good you could cut the Sunderings and maybe blue altogether to strengthen the main gameplan. Or maybe include cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable instead of mill creatures and add some wraths
@-homerow- Жыл бұрын
This format is hilarious
@ricardoalarcon5144 Жыл бұрын
That mana tithe ❤
@brendanfletcher7477 Жыл бұрын
Hey, when March of the Machine comes out, do you think you could do an against the odds equipment tribal deck featuring all the swords Elspeth has used?
@OneThousandTinyElephants Жыл бұрын
The title is like five decks in one
@trovinceia678 Жыл бұрын
I’ve actually built wander tribal, it’s my favorite deck
@ska3041 Жыл бұрын
You had them dead you pick the tapped dude
@MrNukealizer Жыл бұрын
I feel like this kind of deck would work a lot better in explorer than historic. You could replace the Sundering Titan with something else and use better lands while facing generally slower decks.
@gabekeeter641510 ай бұрын
The Wando Combo
@SnakeyBoiii871 Жыл бұрын
Fblthp and Noran just for the scared factor
@doormatt72 Жыл бұрын
that mana tithe. omg. wow wow wow.
@KVGKQuake Жыл бұрын
The best Phlthp pairing would be with Rakdos. What they would do is beyond me
@Gizmosurfin Жыл бұрын
Sunflower Plains :)
@Xesh Жыл бұрын
My brother, if you're looking for a cheap card similar to Raffine's Informant, please consider Evangel of Synthesis- I play them both in my Esper reanimator deck to great effect
@Pandajannick Жыл бұрын
FBLTHP AND BORBORYGMOS FTW
@itsallenwow Жыл бұрын
Fblthp / Azusa - Incredibly lost duo
@MineRoyale. Жыл бұрын
this deck needs some ramp and/or land search to have any hope of actually casting the six drops at a meaningful rate. Something like the Restoration of Eiganjo would have helped considerably.
@MineRoyale. Жыл бұрын
Also, it should be running like 27 lands, presumably cutting the sundering titans (which do very little) for the extra three plus some actual functioning manabase
@Shimatzu95 Жыл бұрын
Deckname suggestion: Dread Wanderers Also if you were to reanimate 2 wandering emperors can you activate both before one dies?
@thekornknownasme Жыл бұрын
Azusa and Fblthp, Totally Lost but Seeking
@Frostgiantbutsmall Жыл бұрын
Been wanting to get into pioneer lately, that mono-g game reminded me how shit the game-play is. Thanks for the wake-up call!
@blackiscolor7732 Жыл бұрын
have you tried historic tron yet?!
@ZatCast Жыл бұрын
Fblthp and Azusa, lost and seeking (it would have to be commander deck cuz Azusa long gone)
@ferdithetank7535 Жыл бұрын
Wandering Waifu tribal without Crim? Blasphemy!
@ajax4709 Жыл бұрын
I have literally never seen the card command the dreadhorde.
@TripsAhoy Жыл бұрын
Mana tithe still damn good! Lol
@g12bzy Жыл бұрын
Fblthp and Norin the Wary
@syntec4322 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how Seth continues to refuse to play "fake cards" lmao
@KnicKnac Жыл бұрын
Because Alchemy is garbage
@wafflesporq Жыл бұрын
you put air quotes in like they're not fake cards
@LadyMorrigan Жыл бұрын
He has played the juggernaut peddler on occasion and admitted that he thought it was a fun card. I kinda wish there was a way to make it work in paper magic too.
@wafflesporq Жыл бұрын
@@LadyMorrigan no it is fake
@olafthemoose9413 Жыл бұрын
@@LadyMorrigan I man the juggernaut peddler could pretty much work in paper. Just bring some juggernauts and sleeve them up.
@dodotornado Жыл бұрын
Am I wrong or should the deck have more lands?
@DDNEV Жыл бұрын
Fblthp needs to pair up with Norin the Wary.
@JacoDeltaco Жыл бұрын
what it going on with the shuffler
@petersteiman2443 Жыл бұрын
It was cool when it worked dude.
@SuenteusPi Жыл бұрын
Fblthp used to be on a team-up card, but then he lost track of his buddy
@thork_tv Жыл бұрын
Match one Game two: why Not let the tapped Out opponent have the tappt DS and Attack for lethal?
@gregthewalnut603 Жыл бұрын
Calling it bow, Flblthp and Borborygmos
@hiimemily Жыл бұрын
Is it really tribal when she doesn't have a subtype?
@jakevuckturd12019 ай бұрын
It's so sad you can't use deification on the wander because she doesn't have a Planeswalker type
@Plexiux Жыл бұрын
Not a partner pairing but how about a saga: Fblthp rallies the Atogs
@wpmer Жыл бұрын
Borborygmos flinging flbithp or other Homoncs would be funny