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Angry Farmer Killed My Car Camper?! Wild Camping Disaster

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Wander with Vickers

Wander with Vickers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching my video, this was a truly horrible experience. One we'll never forget. I would hate for this to happen to anyone else, so please spread the word - if you have any friends of family that love camping or have a camper van. Avoid this place!!
7 days into our Wild and Car Camping Snowdonia adventure, we decide to head into the heart of Snowdonia - coming from Barmouth where we had just waited a whole day/ night to get new tyres fitted. We arrived around llyn Ogwen at about 4.30/5pm, looking on google maps we found a quieter nearby lake with a long track up to it, with cars parked at the bottom on google maps, and the only sign saying to not block the gate (which we didn't) it seemed totally fine to head up there for the night, and to leave the car where it was.
This was not the case.
On our walk up, we saw the man we had seen at the car with his tripod, on his way back to his car. So as soon after we left on our walk, we were the only car parked there . The gate was only so wide, so we made sure that even with a car on the other side there was enough room for any vehicle that could fit through the gate, to be able to get past us. There was over a gate and a half's width of room leading up to the entrance of the gate.
There was no other reason for such an act of violence, the car was not searched, there was lots of camera gear untouched and not looked through. The gate was not obstructed so to me there is no other answer than that somebody who knew we were wild camping up there, didn't like it. (Probably because people have littered in the past :@ it all comes back to litter doesn't it! )There were only two people that saw us, one being the farmer who hearded his sheep in at sunset the night before. Who even sounded angry when he was just shouting at his dogs. We heard the same voice shouting on the way back to the car. We didn't think anything of it at the time, but now we think he was either warning whoever was carrying out the act, or just shouting and sort of cheering us as were coming back to the car, just to rub it in a bit more. As the dry patch shown in the video had not been there long.
So if us Wild Camping up there on a weekday, in less than ideal conditions (a clear sign we're not there to party) is enough for someone to do that. I fear for anyone else camping around there, and definitely anyone who decides to park up for the night where we left the car, maybe to do some night photography or for a night walk. I'm just so glad we weren't car camping.
Don't let this discourage you, It hasn't me! it's just the actions of one, Be safe out there ♥
Looking forward to a winter camp soon! I hope everyone is happy, healthy and having a good day ☺
Take care and enjoy nature ✌

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@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
I want to reiterate some points that were not made clear in the video. I'm not "naming and shaming" anyone as the track leading up to the lake is owned by the power and water company and there are a few farms nearby. This was a crime motivated by anger as more time was taken to destroy the car than to look through it - the go pro was still in the glove box which was massively on view if someone had the motivation to look Inside it. The car hadn't even been unlocked at the back or passenger side and nothing was looked through or stolen Inc lots of camera gear in the back of the car. To anyone thinking I'm in the way, have a look at when the breakdown truck was parked parallel to me, there was still such a vast amount of room left over. Also If I was in the way do you think that logically the tactic would be to strand the car for the whole next day? The other car had moved way before sunset - when the sheep came in (we saw him leave) but even so, a hgv sized vehicle/ sheep truck could have still fit between us both, with room to spare. So once the other car had moved, there is just absolutely 100% no way any access was blocked, for any sized vehicle wanting to back up to the gate. This is why I parked nearest to the road to be considerate of this. As the track leading to the lake was narrow and broken and would have only fit a small van down it, so the only access for a large vehicle would have been to back up to the gate. I thought about all this before parking there, as I live in the country myself. We were heckled on the way back down to the car, a frantic strange shouting was happening at one of the farms over the way - either at us or to warn someone we were coming back. We didn't think much of it at the time untill we saw then damage. We felt a bit intimated at the time, and thought how odd it was. Ozzie also was scared and refusing to move as we neared the car (which we never does) so he obviously sensed some kind of danger at the car. No one passed us in the morning going up to the lake, so whoever left that dry patch in the morning was the perpetrator. Whether it was a quad or a regular vehicle. Who else would have stopped on a barely visible pull in on an A road, on a rainy weekday morning to just damage a car for no reason and not look through it? Somebody that is angry. As people have said in the comments, they have parked there many times, and so had the local photographer we encountered whilst getting our stuff together. He probably took one look at the messy ass car and presumed we would leave rubbish, as I'm sure countless inconsiderate people had done over lockdown. The only person that saw us was a local farmer, who didn't see our tent because it was behind a big rock. So clearly when he saw that the car was there in the morning, he felt annoyed and angry that he hadn't seen it and moved us on last night. When he came into view we purposely moved away from the tent and acted as though we were just there taking photos. And finally if it was a sheep truck that dropped the sheep off, and they hadn't just come from one of the various other sheep fields, then they clearly were able to get access without the need for the car to be moved.
@archifztc
@archifztc 2 жыл бұрын
What happened is just really disgusting human behaviour, I live in Cornwall where were surrounded by farmers and I know what they can be like sometimes. At the end of the day, all they should've done is just left a note on your car or they could come and find you on there quad bike right!? No need to vandalise like that, its just anti social behaviour that is for them to blame and not you! If that was my car i'd be fuming! Shame you had to scrap it, the insurance should cover that usually, only cost £650 max for part worn tyres and 2 new windows fitted :-(
@vintagemopeds2767
@vintagemopeds2767 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying who's at fault hear. Why was the car left unlocked? Insurance does not cover you if you leave your vehicle unlocked also there are criminals who travel to the country side to commit crime usually stealing quad bikes. And breaking into anything that's an easy thouch not stealing the camera gear is easy to explain they are looking for bigger more expensive items the bank card could be used to fill there car with petrol under the pin limit smashing the car just there level of IQ ( zero) . There's a lot of Crime in the county Side but people from cities don't believe there could be with the wide open spaces beautiful views peace and tranquility . I would like to end by saying we are not free to do as we please in the UK (Camping) and we should all get together and voice our message to the government Camping is freedom and we are free.
@vintagemopeds2767
@vintagemopeds2767 2 жыл бұрын
Please can you change the tile to this video as it's not the truth and very click baity
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintagemopeds2767 the car wasn't unlocked? The window was smashed and they didn't bother to look through the car and unlock the doors for a better look. Or even look in the glove box? What part of that makes sense if it was thieves? Even if your a "vandal" that type of person would have had a snoop around don't you think? 🤣 Also I didn't even notice the card was missing for at least 7 hours, and the contactless wasn't even used. It was just to make the whole experience of getting home harder. Break the car, strand me.. steal the card, strand me even more.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
@@vintagemopeds2767 there is a ? So I don't see an issue
@bigteddy66
@bigteddy66 2 жыл бұрын
How can you blame a farmer? You don't know who did it? Unreal. Whoever did it obviously shouldn't have.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
You're entitled to your opinion, I've stated mine and the reasons as to why I do in the video and pinned comment.
@bigteddy66
@bigteddy66 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wanderwithvickers point being it could have been some passer by, I assume you do get vandals in that area. Don't know a single farmer that would do this unprovoked.
@neilhunt7452
@neilhunt7452 2 ай бұрын
I know this area well, traveling it often and living not too far away. I would put money on it that's this was done by vandals and not by a farmer. If farmers were so against people wild camping this would happen more often and it doesn't.
@Lee.Freeman
@Lee.Freeman 2 ай бұрын
The farmer seems the most likely suspect. If not, where was he to help these ladies? Farmers in general should never be trusted. That is based on the experience of thousands of hikers ☕️🦘🦘🦘
@prof1982
@prof1982 2 күн бұрын
​What a load of bull ,as has been said, can't see it being the farmer. Farmers in general should never be trusted ? Are you for real ? You most likely don't eat either . ​@@Lee.Freeman
@Smithiesonamotorbike
@Smithiesonamotorbike 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t condone and vandalism what so ever, it doesn’t prove anything. But I can’t get over the reason for your car being scrapped. Everything that was damaged was replaceable “tyres and windscreen”.
@DaleLadDaz
@DaleLadDaz 2 жыл бұрын
Insurance companies for ya… legalised racket
@jonoliver1888
@jonoliver1888 2 жыл бұрын
It was a nail of a car. Windscreen, windows, tyres, labour, towing, travel expenses for the two girls. Its not worth repairing for that outlay. Thats how it works
@chapelhallmagnetmen8874
@chapelhallmagnetmen8874 2 жыл бұрын
i have got to agree with u garry at most 350 quid would have had her back on the road now her insurance will be through the roof not including her excess will probally increase insurance companys are ripp of merchants
@mrbigvanlife7130
@mrbigvanlife7130 2 жыл бұрын
Car was scrapped as it’s worth very little - say £500 and the cost of 4 tyres and 2 windows would be more than that. It’s the way it works. Cheaper to deduct your excess and pay you out - simply it’s what you paid for with your insurance.
@sahhull
@sahhull 2 жыл бұрын
Insurance takes their replacement figures from main dealer prices not the local spanner monkey. So 4x new tyres from Ditchfinder tyres maybe £50 each, at main dealer will set you back £150 each. Again with the windscreen. Then theres recovery charges. Recovery + Fixing it is more costly than the cars value. So they write it off... Thats why on a 10 year old car a cracked bumper can write the car off, because insurance will replace the bumper at £600 - £1000. Botch it Johns Paintwork Ltd will plastic weld and fill the crack and spray it for £100
@HoneyandMe
@HoneyandMe Жыл бұрын
Having also been the victim of a 'car attack', but over here in Canada, I would suggest that this was NOT a farmer. There are people all over the world who are just malicious. Our car was parked on the side of a highway, but a quiet one. We own the property there, but can't drive the car in due to the lane being 4x4 only. All 4 of the side windows got smashed out, stuff stolen and the door frames themselves bent when they tried to pry the doors open before smashing the windows, This made the car a write-off for insurance. It was not some angry local. It was malicious vandalism by people who passed by and figured they could get away with it. I think this was what happened to your car as well. If there had been garbage strewn around the road you hiked, where you camped and where you parked, I could understand la local farmer being upset and taking it out on your car. But, this did not look the case. I think it was just a passer by idiot who was looking for something to wreck and thought it was funny. Sadly, there are people like that in the world. The dry spot could have been where they parked, but there could be other explanations as to who had parked there.
@pootlingalong8928
@pootlingalong8928 2 жыл бұрын
That just doesn’t look like the work of a farmer to me, more the work of a few yobboes with nothing better to do. Having said that, your car could very well be an obstacle to a large tractor and trailer which needs a large arc to get in - and particularly to get back out of - that gateway. Also, the land may be owned by a utility company but that utility company will almost certainly have leased the land out to a farmer to ensure it is managed appropriately, so a farmer is paying rent to use the land. It is best to ask a farmer if you can camp - some may say no, but in my experience they really don’t mind if you ask first and they know where you are and can see you are responsible people. It is the courteous thing to do :)
@robmarkworth5377
@robmarkworth5377 2 жыл бұрын
Still absolutely no justification for this
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 2 жыл бұрын
You'd have to have a tractor the size of the Titanic to not be able get past that, including with a trailer. A pissed off farmer should erect a sign. Not smash up a car.
@pootlingalong8928
@pootlingalong8928 2 жыл бұрын
This is yobboes, not farmer.
@danieldermott3890
@danieldermott3890 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! My mouth was wide open watching that. Id like to say that the way you both handled it was amazing. My heart goes out to you for your car. Thank you for finishing the video and sharing it. Good luck with everything
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still in shock now tbh,. Aw thank you, I appreciate it. It took a minute but got there in the end haha. Take care!
@chris-ef6kt
@chris-ef6kt Жыл бұрын
That isn't childish, it is pure vandalism and who ever did it should be prosecuted. Disgraceful, I hope you were all ok
@tessmess5990
@tessmess5990 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Some of these farmers think they own our planet.
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@christopher9727 9 ай бұрын
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@prof1982
@prof1982 2 күн бұрын
No proof it was the farmer. None. Could have been anyone.
@chapman9230
@chapman9230 10 ай бұрын
I must have missed something. Did anyone see the farmer do this? If so report it to the police. That close to the road, I would have thought some passing yobs took the opportunity when passing. Very sorry you had such an experience. I think your insurance company was very poor. You should name them so we can avoid them. In terms of the camping spot. I imagine the farmer does get annoyed. A lot of people go there and abuse the place which is infuriating. I have given up wild camping now and use camp sites. Its a shame but so many people are doing it and sadly amongst those are some people that do leave a trace, along with poo near water supplies etc. Its got out of hand.
@Springer5
@Springer5 26 күн бұрын
Yes it's very sad. I used to wild camp many years ago, but I think COVID introduced a "new breed" of irresponsible people to it. The sort of people who would normally be giving Britain a bad name abroad spent a year or two doing stay cations around lockdown and ruined it for genuine wild campers by trashing everywhere they went. Now they gone back abroad again and left us with all the bad feeling from angry landowners.
@ChefEarthenware
@ChefEarthenware Жыл бұрын
Unless there was damage that you didn't show, there's something wrong with your insurance company. Tyres are replaced at your own cost anyway and windscreen replacement is trivial and cheap. A driver's side window for a car of that age could be picked up for a song. To write a car off for that damage sounds negligent bordering on corrupt, assuming that you described the damage accurately.
@kwak1k
@kwak1k 2 жыл бұрын
So you where wild camping on private land? Also a Farmer can legally shoot your dog's if they're deemed to be causing stress to his sheep, particularly if they're pregnant. Sheep miscarry very easily. You can't just roll up and do what you like in the sticks, there has to be a bit of respect given.
@carlmorgan8452
@carlmorgan8452 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense comment 👏 👌
@carlmorgan8452
@carlmorgan8452 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you not talk to the farmer? Could maybe avoided car problems 🤔
@dailybusiness8162
@dailybusiness8162 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlmorgan8452 "car problems" 😁😑
@Destro7000
@Destro7000 2 жыл бұрын
Private land should be marked with signs or barbed wire. Owners/Landlords should approach the trespasser and tell them to leave. It shouldn't escalate so quickly. I respect private land but it has to be marked and people must be given a warning to leave. If they don't, then fine, shoot or whatever. But there has to be clarity.
@ThepPixel
@ThepPixel 2 жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular belief, a farmer does not have a legal right to shoot a dog that is worrying their livestock - what they have is a legal defence. Shooting a dog must be a last resort. Dogs are classed as property so shooting a dog could trigger criminal damage proceedings and the farmer will have to prove he had a ‘lawful excuse’. The farmer will need to show that his sheep were in immediate need of protection, and that his actions were reasonable having regard to all the circumstances. The farmer could also face civil proceeding for damages for the loss of the dog. The farmer will need to prove that the dog was worrying or was about to worry the livestock, and there was no other reasonable means of ending the worrying.
@cooperman8850
@cooperman8850 2 жыл бұрын
I've had something similar happen to me . I left my car on an access road with plenty of room to pass by. When I came back my window was smashed and the wing mirror was on the floor. I was so annoyed that I went and brought a couple of good paddlocks and made sure the access road wasn't as accessible 🤷‍♂️ not a very grown up response but treat pettiness with pettiness. If you're vandalising cars and not there to face what you've done expect retaliation
@xhogun8578
@xhogun8578 2 жыл бұрын
How about being respectful about where you park in the first place.
@adamlr0130
@adamlr0130 Жыл бұрын
Walked that section many many times. 2 things. I've always seen people parked there and thought 'idiots' there is a massive layby down by tryfan. That gateway entrance is just that, a gateway entrance, not a layby and clearly is not a suitable car park. it is very often used by emergency services. Second, the 'Wild' camping spot, right next to a track and walking path and really easily accessible....congrats, not to say the vandalisers are not in the wrong, but their anger is understandable.
@RichieBrownAnAdventurer
@RichieBrownAnAdventurer Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely horrible, you were parked well out the way , this is honestly my worst nightmare when wild camping
@LifeBetweenTheDash
@LifeBetweenTheDash 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, don't get it? Tires slashed, windshield and a window smashed and for that they scrapped the car? What did I miss? Glad you guys were rescued.
@clairehamilton3293
@clairehamilton3293 2 жыл бұрын
Probably had the cheapest, basic insurance. The car itself is probably not worth enough compared to how much the repairs would cost. ⚖️
@benofbens6446
@benofbens6446 2 жыл бұрын
Full set of tyres and a windscreen is honestly worth the same as the car itself, really not worth fixing. In the eyes of insurance anyway.
@jasonandreoli4135
@jasonandreoli4135 2 жыл бұрын
Because it was a peice of crap 20 year old golf worth about 200 quid, half what repair would cost.
@Rockhopper1
@Rockhopper1 2 жыл бұрын
windscreen is classed as a supporting structure no windscreen car is illegal to move on the road.
@gordongate
@gordongate Жыл бұрын
@@jasonandreoli4135 less than the cost to repair/replace the farm equipment i would have destroyed had that been my car.
@elis9387
@elis9387 2 жыл бұрын
As a local to the area i am embarrassed that this has happened!
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
There are nasty people everywhere! I've met so many beautifully kind people there to make up for it ❤️
@CARLIN4737
@CARLIN4737 Жыл бұрын
Dosnt change a thing? Pointless comment.
@elis9387
@elis9387 Жыл бұрын
@@CARLIN4737 you're comment is infinately more pointless haha
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit 2 жыл бұрын
A standard size vehicle will leave a patch smaller than the vehicle, the size of the patch does not indicate it was the quad, unless you saw the farmer vandalizing the vehicle it’s just speculation. This could be just random vandals.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's the farmer for lots of reasons said in the pinned comment. I'll say it again, vandals would have looked in the glove and found the go pro..
@pault5947
@pault5947 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wanderwithvickers not true, like saying that a thief would also vandalise a car. Too many assumptions in your story.
@adge_ventures4915
@adge_ventures4915 2 жыл бұрын
This is vile! I've parked in exactly that spot several times without issue......suffice to say I won't be doing it again. I hope there's a happy ending somewhere for you guys ❤️
@ScotmanUK2000
@ScotmanUK2000 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you added to the problem and who ever owned that access got fed up. Park proper.
@4wdflying
@4wdflying 2 жыл бұрын
No you are off message, the area is populated by vile deranged farmers who hang about waiting to pounce on innocently parked vehicles. They get a subsidy for everyone smashed up sufficiently to need scrapping. Hope this helps.
@Destro7000
@Destro7000 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScotmanUK2000 The only problem is the people throwing big rocks into car windows. That's the criminal.
@sheela-na-giga-byte8397
@sheela-na-giga-byte8397 2 жыл бұрын
@@4wdflying Wild campers should make this a Solstice gathering place, even a permanent protest camp against the thuggery shown to wil camping. Farmers are fkd up.
@therespectedlex9794
@therespectedlex9794 2 жыл бұрын
@@4wdflying A subsidy from scrappers? Sounds like a joke. I suppose they need it now we've left the EU, to go with their other hundreds of thousands of pounds.
@Midlife_mike
@Midlife_mike 2 жыл бұрын
You did lock the gate tho. Why do you think the entrance is so wide? It’s to get a tractor with a large trailer through you should park in lay-bys not infront of gates
@BotanyDegreePilkerton
@BotanyDegreePilkerton 2 жыл бұрын
That drive way and gate DO NOT belong to farmer, they belong to Waterboard. Check facts before shitposting Michael. You're a sheeple.
@TheBaldyheed
@TheBaldyheed 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah so let's just completely smash someones car to pieces because they made a slight error in judgement of where to park, maybe they didn't think about a tractor with a large trailer, does the make them stupid or deserving of having done to them what they did? If it was a farmer (which we don't actually know that it was) a simple note on the windscreen would have brought that to thier attention. People like you always assume that people do things cos they don't give a shit whereas in most cases its just good people making a naive decision
@mrblank2150
@mrblank2150 Жыл бұрын
You are right. You were not blocking the gate if a car wanted to enter but it's most likely that it was a farmer with a large trailer on the rear that couldn't make it onto his own field. But never mind, you learnt the hard way
@jamsams
@jamsams Жыл бұрын
That's not the point, it says to keep it clear. That means don't park near it. There is a cheap car part opposite the lay-by. Too lazy or too tight to move and pay.
@user-id9im1ow9h
@user-id9im1ow9h Жыл бұрын
I am so sorry this happen to you:( I cant even image how upsetting that must of been and scary! Yet I cant help that feel that I am glad for you both and the dogs, that you wasn't sleeping in your car when this person came. This could of been so much worst. thank god you was all by the lake and safe.
@jamsams
@jamsams Жыл бұрын
They were wrong on 3 counts. Don't feel sorry for them.
@tessmess5990
@tessmess5990 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@Longtallsal17
@Longtallsal17 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t help 🤷‍♀️but can I just say I was so impressed by your absolute respectfulness and responsibility towards, initially thinking about where you Parked ( even if it turned out to piss someone off!) keeping your dogs on leads and in control at all times ( love them by the way… sooo cute!) and leaving the spot where you camped exactly as you found it! I can totally see how you didn’t in anyway go out to do anything to annoy or be disrespectful and hopefully the person/s that did this feel ashamed! X
@tessmess5990
@tessmess5990 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@spamsucker132
@spamsucker132 2 жыл бұрын
There's a public car park 150 metres to the west of where you parked. It's at the entry to the campsite that is about 200 metres away from where you parked.
@youtubepanda6705
@youtubepanda6705 2 жыл бұрын
U did it lol
@cellinimedusa4679
@cellinimedusa4679 Жыл бұрын
Don’t camp on private property without permission. Here endeth the lesson.
@goingbald8798
@goingbald8798 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be very careful the farmer doesn't get shown this and pursue legal action against you. Farmers generally don't destroy cars, passing criminals do. You shouldn't of been parked on someone else's land in the first place! Throwing liable accusations around on social media? Rather you than me!!!!
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Passing criminals or even kids would have had a look inside, bothered to unlock the back doors and had a look around. Besides the track is owned by the power and water company so I'm not directly on anyone's land - the farmer will just share access. I'm not naming and shaming or giving out anyone's personal address. This is my opinion of what happened. There is no other explanation I can see. All my camera stuff, go pro money, lots was not even searched through. This screams an act of anger to me
@diannaroe7382
@diannaroe7382 2 жыл бұрын
Some farmers destroy cars. Know a few and they are mad bast**ds. Seen videos, cars being tipped clean over. Picking on two young girls who have respect for the countryside amd seam loverly people. Karma Ignore the negative comments girls. You have done nothing to disrespect anyone. Can get a tractor and trailer through that gate.
@benguy52
@benguy52 2 жыл бұрын
@@diannaroe7382 if this is the bar for "respecting land" then its no wonder wild camping is illegal.
@prof1982
@prof1982 2 күн бұрын
​@@Wanderwithvickersno you just randomly picked on the farmer that may or may not have access there. You don't need to name him , if I was that person I wouldn't hesitate to have you up in court for what you're suggesting. Oh and it's too late to delete it. I wish him success. It's slander nothing else .
@MrWildWales
@MrWildWales 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! I hope you've got this sorted now with insurance or whatever? It does seem like the locals are getting pretty peed off with it in Snowdonia lately with nobody being able to go abroad they have been there instead. Makes you worry about parking up there and I'm due to go there soon 😬 I probably would have driven it closer to the gate for a while and sorted it out in a few days
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh 10 ай бұрын
Unlikely the insurance would stump up, if the vehicle was being used to engage in an illegal activity (wild camping)
@maesteg
@maesteg 2 жыл бұрын
What a lot of people don't understand, every piece of land in the UK is owned by someone. So if you wild camp you are trespassing.
@timoytickets7700
@timoytickets7700 2 жыл бұрын
Only because they stole the land off us in the first place. Forgive me because I never feel guilty as I continue to trespass everywhere.
@BotanyDegreePilkerton
@BotanyDegreePilkerton 2 жыл бұрын
robber barons, steal what isn't theirs, Commons belongs to the Commoner, the meak shall inherit
@Aboutaweekago1787
@Aboutaweekago1787 Жыл бұрын
By UK do you mean England and Wales, Scotland has the right to roam and wild camping is permitted and there is no such law as trespass here.
@bigteddy66
@bigteddy66 Жыл бұрын
​@@Aboutaweekago1787 unfortunately you are right there is no trespass law in Scotland. Very unfortunate.
@tonyy452
@tonyy452 11 ай бұрын
Factually incorrect. Someone is only trespassing if they don't leave after being asked to. Also, trespass is a civil matter, damaging a car is a criminal offence. Therefore, the landowners response to the act of parking a car was disproportionate. They could just put a sign up saying no parking if they want to discourage people from stopping there.
@philware1546
@philware1546 Жыл бұрын
You had four tyres to buy, a windscreen and a side window.... And it was scrapped because of that? Tyres and windscreen are typical things to get replaced.
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow that was a bit savage! Might be worth digging a little bit and seeing if any other vehicles have been vandalised like that there?😲🤔
@andrewnorris5415
@andrewnorris5415 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry this happened. I must say I would not have personally parked there at all. The gates had signs on saying no parking, which you read. You assume there was "enough room" if just yourself parked. But often farm access is for vehicles towing trailers and they need the room to turn. That is exactly why that "area" is made in that shape. It also makes it more dangerous for them when exiting onto the busy road as any parked car can block their view turning it into more of a blind junction. This is a problem when the farmer is trying to exit on his own with a big trailer behind (no one to stand outside and direct him or her). They need to see who is coming as early as possible, no blind spots caused by parked cars, or it could easily cause an accident. The best thing to do to find a good spot is to put in more sweat equity. The best spots generally involve more of a hike from the nearest legal parking spot. That farmer overreacted for sure and should not have done that but I can understand why they were angry over it. I also understand you did not mean harm. Maybe learn the more general lesson, rather than just avoiding that spot? Or it may happen again.
@jimmyjohnstone5878
@jimmyjohnstone5878 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully she learns a lesson but from her attempts at defending her actions it might be that there is still a big gap between reality and her perception of it.
@gennaro4941
@gennaro4941 2 жыл бұрын
Your excuse of ...any car could fit by..so why do that...is a lame excuse.. How about getting permission to go on people's property??.. Not saying what they did to your car was right..it wasn't at all. But you can't just leave your car on property..trespass and then expect them to accept it..and then say..don't know why..they had room to get by.. Hope you gotta another car and learned a lesson...
@Jaysonbc1234
@Jaysonbc1234 Жыл бұрын
Great video, it won't deter me from wild camping ❤Im sorry to hear what happened... If the bank card has been taken, thats theft. Insurance is a con, like everything at the moment.
@tonycritcher3419
@tonycritcher3419 2 жыл бұрын
That is a shocking, nasty thing to do. I am so sorry! Insurance companies are terrible too. Especially if it was only the windows and tyres damaged and to think three of those were new! You are both considerate, caring campers everywhere you go and this was a blatant act of vandalism. You had not blocked the gate and a combine harvester could have got through there. As for taking your card too, I hope nothing else was missing. A real coward, no note saying why, even so still no reason for any of that. I also feel bad hitting the 'Like' button as I like all your videos and hope there will be more. The person responsible needs a reality check! I am glad you all got home safely after such an ordeal!
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still in shock now tbh, the anger they must have felt.. to a car that was doing absolutely nothing wrong to them. I know I was shocked at that too! The engine was fine 😒 it's glass and rubber 🤦‍♀️ No nothing else, there was plenty to steal but pretty much most stuff wasn't looked through at all.
@tonycritcher3419
@tonycritcher3419 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wanderwithvickers I think windscreens should be covered on all vehicles against vandalism, then another set of tyres and you would have been good to go. Gutted 4 u
@PawsomeAdventuring
@PawsomeAdventuring 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a farmer who probably wouldn’t want someone camping on our private farmland anyway, sorry to say, as our land is not common land, but this is not how most farmers would deal with this. If your vehicle had been parked annoyingly in our local area I’d have expected one of the farmers to have splattered it with muck or blocked it in with silage bales. I don’t see what a farmer stood to gain from having you stuck around any longer? I was expecting a farmer to have an altercation to prove it was them. Also a bit surprised it was completely written off for tyres and windscreen. 😳 I’d have also moved on the night before when the farmer saw you, as you knew it was not technically legal. You even said were trying to hide the fact you were camping from them. Still a horrible thing to happened, all the same. Thank heavens for uncles coming to the rescue
@donnavansenior
@donnavansenior 2 жыл бұрын
Christ, what an absolute nightmare. So sorry to watch your vid and see what happened to your car. What a reckless, stupid and dangerous thing to do to anyone's vehicle, but hats off to you two for the way you handled the situation. On your new car - tint the rear windows so people can't see that it looks like a 'campers vehicle'. I hope the 2022 is a better year for wildcamping for you. ATB Donna :)
@StephenDannatt-vn3pi
@StephenDannatt-vn3pi 4 ай бұрын
Who ever did this to those poor innocent girls should be ashamed of themselves
@MCMOutdoors
@MCMOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, I'm very sorry to see this happened to your car; but I have to say there is no evidence whatsoever that a farmer is responsible for this act - which amounts to criminal damage - this is purely speculatory. Sadly, in the absence of CCTV or other witnesses, this crime will never be solved. It's such a shame, as there was no obstruction of the gate, which leads me to believe this may have been caused by mindless vandals - I hope this doesn't put you guys off wild camping and I hope you get everything sorted and back out soon 👍🏕️
@gavinwallbank7570
@gavinwallbank7570 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your comment and suspect like you this is in fact an act of mindless vandalism
@4wdflying
@4wdflying 2 жыл бұрын
@TRIG POINT Why would it be locals it's a busy road with dozens of cars passing. Someone will have noticed it there all night and decided to see what's in it next time they passed. The locals won't be out thinking smashing a car window is some kind of fun. You have very warped ideas.
@4wdflying
@4wdflying 2 жыл бұрын
@TRIG POINT that's the Welsh though not the local farmers she is vilifying
@sunny_b_goats
@sunny_b_goats 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not defending the farmer by any means, but how do you know it was him/her? It’s all guessing? Either way it’s a terrible thing to happen
@daniel_001
@daniel_001 2 жыл бұрын
I'd call it an educated guess. Not just wild accusations.
@bigteddy66
@bigteddy66 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniel_001 it's just a wild open accusation.
@BeccaGulliver
@BeccaGulliver 2 жыл бұрын
That sucks, but why would an "angry local farmer" take a debit card? It sounds more like an opportunist thief/vandal to me.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
By destroying the car, the goal is to strand me. By taking the debit card which was in the door of the window he smashed, makes it even harder for me to get home. There was lots of camera stuff in the back, if you take that much time to destroy the car, you would have a look in the back or even in the glove. But no, this tells me it's an act of anger only
@4wdflying
@4wdflying 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, since there are probably only 2 or 3 locals might want to use the track, making the whole video around this assumption is tantamount to slander.
@4wdflying
@4wdflying 2 жыл бұрын
@TRIG POINT But she is blaming local community with no evidence. As a result other commenters here are proposing vigilante actions. Unsupported allegations on media is how wars start.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
@@4wdflying I don't agree, as it was one of them so 🤷‍♂️
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
@@4wdflying I think common sense gives you the answer to be honest 🤣
@daniellemillea3814
@daniellemillea3814 2 жыл бұрын
This is not the way to handle the situation. I'm gutted for you guys. Love your videos, really helped me dream of freedom while suffering covid recently. I went out and got a roof box and am making sleeping platform! I hope you continue when this isn't so raw. Hugs you to both and the dogs x
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, it's just craziness. Aw that's amazing, so glad your getting out there. I've been doing this a long time and nothing like this has ever happened before, don't let it discourage you. The dogs send their love ❤️
@4wdflying
@4wdflying 2 жыл бұрын
She invented the storyline to fit her prejudice and boost views though by thelook of it. She has no knowledge of rural areas and thinks they are all some kind of deranged half wits.
@danmillea
@danmillea 2 жыл бұрын
@@4wdflying I don't agree with what you're saying. Having watched many videos on this channel they show nothing but love for the countryside and have inspired me. Unless you have evidence this was made up I don't think it's fair to speculate this way
@tessmess5990
@tessmess5990 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. You guys did nothing wrong, and were entirely respectful.
@irvsstella
@irvsstella 10 ай бұрын
No way is the car writen off, tyres, £60 each, windscreen £100, window, £25 from a scrappy.
@stiggywatts4258
@stiggywatts4258 Жыл бұрын
These farmers should be very careful when vandalising people's property, there are many people who will not react so placidly to this kind of atrocious behaviour. I hope the perpetrators in question see this comment and heed the warning.
@dannyburns2166
@dannyburns2166 2 жыл бұрын
In my youth ( my 20s ) I used to do lots of camping and at the time I thought I was very respectful and responsible to the land , but I have to say most of the farmers I ran into were miserable angry human beings,
@adamcowell7847
@adamcowell7847 2 жыл бұрын
I work with farmers. I deliver chemicals to farms. They can be very wierd people some of them.
@Mat-kr1nf
@Mat-kr1nf 2 жыл бұрын
I have memories of being frogmarched off some Welsh farmer’s land by the business end of a twin barrelled twelve-bore for committing the heinous capital offence of wandering mistakenly off a public footpath. No point complaining to the police about it, certainly not in that era (1985) or that part of the country!☹️🤷‍♂️
@thelonegr00ver
@thelonegr00ver 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamcowell7847 its the inbreeding
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
We tried to be as considerate as possible by leaving the most room possible, as I know how annoying it can be if Access is blocked and how crazy farmers can be! Unfortunately this is the case round my area also.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mat-kr1nf wow that's crazy! We have the same issues round here. Farmers putting locks on walkway gates that lead to canal paths when they are clearly there on the walkway!
@ChickenofEvil
@ChickenofEvil 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you! What an utterly crap thing to happen to such nice people. I really hope or doesn't put you off wild camping or making videos - wishing you a lovely Christmas and better 2022 :-)
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, it does suck when we always try to park and camp considerately. I fear I'm paying for other people's laziness with leaving litter etc. Thank you, you too!! 🎄❤️
@RiddimKingdom
@RiddimKingdom 3 ай бұрын
Quick tip I learned in America, get yourself a dash cam and backing camera that record footage. If anyone comes near the car you have it all recorded and they can go to jail
@anonemass8247
@anonemass8247 Жыл бұрын
I personally don't much care for the emphasis on local farmers being blamed, it could be anyone, including yourself, but mostly present this is majorly your fault for parking and going camping in a place where as you could have paid £10 for a more secure and legit camp site
@carlostheghost2793
@carlostheghost2793 9 ай бұрын
There's always one, and on this occasion it was you
@prof1982
@prof1982 2 күн бұрын
​@@carlostheghost2793but absolutely correct .
@MrCW1979
@MrCW1979 2 жыл бұрын
Gutted for you but literally ¼ of a mile up the road there's bags of free parking 😬
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 2 жыл бұрын
That would be another 1/4 mile walk though.
@martinerhard8447
@martinerhard8447 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianlopez8855 oh wow 1/4 mile...pfff
@NealyLL
@NealyLL 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianlopez8855 would actually be a 1/2…
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 2 жыл бұрын
Glad someone has identified sarcasm.
@user-of7td9oo7d
@user-of7td9oo7d 2 жыл бұрын
I think that was a barbaric act of anger and absolutely inadequate behavior toward such wonderful, friendly and positive ladies. Shame!
@paulfoey8027
@paulfoey8027 2 жыл бұрын
Without visitors to north Wales it has nothing. They’ll do well to remember that before they go on about the English, economy is totally propped up by England and I’ve never met a friendly farmer ever always horrible obnoxious angry people
@MrChris7235
@MrChris7235 10 ай бұрын
If you've never met a friendly farmer, then clearly you are the issue. The majority are hard working people with little spare time and money. Think about next time you park in their gate ways. You may then meet a friendly one!
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 9 ай бұрын
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@AshOutdoorsUK
@AshOutdoorsUK 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my effin hell!!?? What is wrong with people, so gutted for you guys! Glad you got sorted in the end and you managed to get home safely! Thanks for sharing and hope your next trip goes better Ash
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Such craziness, I will never understand. Hoping to get out for a winter camp soon! Might get a Welsh car sticker for the next trip 😆🤦‍♀️
@peterhamilton356
@peterhamilton356 2 жыл бұрын
I have worked in that area taking groups hill walking and the thing i came across on quite a few occasions ,i am afraid to say, is welsh nationalism and the hatred of the english answer me this ,does your car have an english number plate? if it does theres your problem . On one occasion i was mountain biking round snowden, wild camped at the side of the road, next morning my tyres where slashed and i am irish ,just be carefull
@kwak1k
@kwak1k 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterhamilton356 Being English or any other nationality has nothing to do with it. If you decide to camp wherever you like and piss off someone, it doesn't matter where you're from. Don't spread hate Peter.
@kennycollins9441
@kennycollins9441 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwak1k I totally disagree, take the rose tinted lenses off and you will notice how lots of people hate the neighbouring countries but even if that wasn't the case a Welsh sticker may put the farmer off as they would be close enough for sweet revenge!
@daniel_001
@daniel_001 2 жыл бұрын
I've been to that area many times, such a beautiful location and that track is pretty steep :) So appalling what happened to you - I know it was a while ago now (I just found your channel) but I hope you continue to explore and enjoy the countryside.
@np939427a
@np939427a 2 жыл бұрын
Next time when you park your car, Put one of them trail hiden cameras up watching your own car, Any movement and hay presto you will find out who did it and send them the bill for being dumb arses!
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 2 жыл бұрын
excellent idea + dash cam
@walkingspain166
@walkingspain166 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely disgusting person to have done something like that. I'm so sorry for you all, Like you said the actions of an angry child. Stay strong and positive you two as you have been actually, sending you all my best wishes from Madrid x
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
It's just crazy, I can't believe people. I was not causing a problem or blocking anything. Yes 100% not the way to deal with it
@walkingspain166
@walkingspain166 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wanderwithvickers No absolutely not obviously this person has deep rooted anger issues and well needs to learn to vent that elsewhere and not at innocent good people like yourselves.
@Paul9
@Paul9 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think this could have been some local scoundrels as much as a farmer. You get a fair few lads in cars messing around through the Ogwen valley over night.
@RiddimKingdom
@RiddimKingdom 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, as a full time traveller / digital nomad since 2008, I can say the UK is the worst place on planet earth for the locals being horrid. People all over the uk are just awful when it comes to people living a different or more free way of life. They’re all so conservative and stuck in the matrix and do hateful it’s actually a dangerous place to be as a foreigner or traveller. Can’t wait to leave.
@tonypaddler
@tonypaddler 2 ай бұрын
As someone who has lived, worked (and travelled as a camper) around quite a lot of countries in my time, I wholeheartedly agree with what you say about the UK. Absolutely full of hateful people!
@dianeday7327
@dianeday7327 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry that you had to learn a hard lesson. But I have to say. The number one rule of wild camping is, do not park in any driveway. No matter how wide it is. Although you say the land was owned by utilities. It is obvious that it is only the part where the lakes and sheds are situated. If you researched it. You will probably find that the land is owned by the farms and small areas are leased to the utilities. It is ignorance such as this that turn people and landowners against those of us who do our due diligence and stick to the etiquette of wild camping. May I say you were very lucky not to have had your dogs shot off leash. Farmers have the right to shoot dogs off leash where their flocks graze. 🙄
@pete3816
@pete3816 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. As regrettable as the vandalism is, these ladies need to learn how to park and behave in the hills.
@jimmyjohnstone5878
@jimmyjohnstone5878 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Her arrogant position that she ought to be able to park on private land is why land owners are getting more and more annoyed. One car, once in a while, as it was years ago, is possibly ok. In recent times however the has been a huge increase in the numbers of people wanting to access the countryside for recreation. The infrastructure hasn't kept up, especially parking places. That doesn't excuse irresponsible parking. She has hopefully learned a lesson.
@lizzrobb2313
@lizzrobb2313 2 жыл бұрын
I but was it private land? If it was, the gate should of been closer to the Rd. Just some sick jealous people out there, wonder how many of u on here would of felt it it had of been ur daughters. The car could of even broke down
@pete3816
@pete3816 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizzrobb2313 why should the gate be closer to the road just because it’s private land?? It’s set back from the road to allow the large farm traffic to turn into it comfortably. If it was close to the road, the turning circle would be too tight. Fact of the matter is, that if they parked in the public spaces a couple hundred feet away, then there would be no issue. I think the vandalism is utterly wrong. But, these ladies were in the wrong and need to learn how to behave in the hills.
@smithywick
@smithywick 2 жыл бұрын
That’s appalling absolutely appalling!! It’s also a criminal offence whoever’s done it ( criminal damage ) your all home and safe that’s the main thing 🙏❤️❤️👊xx
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Such total madness, yeah all good now. And at least it could have been worse, we could have been it it! 🙏
@jamielindsay1929
@jamielindsay1929 7 ай бұрын
1 puncture and 3 new tyres? 😂 I’m in the wrong business lol
@stewartmcgrath1831
@stewartmcgrath1831 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ! So sorry to hear you had to go through that. Nice to know the insurance company is happy to take your money but leave you basically in the s***! Gutted for you
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Thank you so much. I know right, a lesson learned. Very stressful, but I'm feeling alot better now time has gone on a bit. crazy re living it all in the vid 😆
@pault5947
@pault5947 2 жыл бұрын
Really? What level of insurance did she buy?
@jonahan1751
@jonahan1751 2 жыл бұрын
Gutted for you girls. I'm a Welsh wild camper who follows the countryside code as close as you can when 'illegally' wild camping, leave no trace, etc, but unfortunately there are a few farmers that think themselves gods in their own little kingdoms. Most over my 40+ years wild camping have been great as long as you show their land the respect it deserves, some begrudgingly allow it, but a small minority are right arseholes. We had a problem a few years back for one of our English friends, came down from Cumbria and all, while wild camping in the Brecon Beacons, that was until my other butty, who used to live local got involved. It was only because the farmer knew my buttys father that he backed off. Threatened our friends car before we arrived the prick. This is why we need designated wild camping areas in wales.
@arthurdanielles4784
@arthurdanielles4784 2 жыл бұрын
In Wales and England, almost all land is owned by someone and there is no law providing people access to someone else's land, which makes wild camping; generally illegal.😗
@bigteddy66
@bigteddy66 2 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no proof that any farmer was involved in what happened. And your comments about some farmers is a little flawed given that she was the one that was somewhere she shouldn't have been in the first place.
@jonahan1751
@jonahan1751 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigteddy66 for starters I know my history and I know how dickish SOME farmers can be. Snowdonia national Park, especially the area the girls were in, has a right to roam code on most upper land, so they were very much allowed to be where they were. Illegal camping is most often turned a blind eye to, so long so you follow the countryside code, which these girls were following. I never named a farmer, just said how dickish SOME can be, if it was the farmer that did it. I'm not local to the area but have passed the spot many times and have often seen vehicles parked there, never blocking access that I have seen. And I drive a hgv for a living.
@bigteddy66
@bigteddy66 2 жыл бұрын
Wild campers can be "dickish" also and as you pointed out it's illegal. Right to roam was a stupid idea. It should have been a right to prosecute trespassers that was brought in.
@jonahan1751
@jonahan1751 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigteddy66 wouldn't happen to be a farmer would you, or the farmer, as you seem to be very unsympathetic to what has happened to these girls. True there are the bad campers that trudge up a mountain or into a woodland and leave a mess, but the majority, and there are a lot of videos on KZbin, respect the environment and want to protect the land for all. There are also many landowners that would love to fence off the whole countryside to keep out the peasantry from THEIR little kingdoms. The national parks were set up to protect what little countryside is left on this island, set up for ALL, not just the privileged few.
@UrbanRatsAdventures
@UrbanRatsAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I would of left the car there still taxed and insured for weeks 😁
@UrbanRatsAdventures
@UrbanRatsAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mich-G if u like wild camping try check my channel bud ✌🏻
@danielmacdonald3130
@danielmacdonald3130 10 ай бұрын
when your cars not even worth 4 tyres and a couple windows jeez, never trust insurance companies, they will pay out pennies and up your premium to get it back over the next year and then some
@ianpaulwestwood9062
@ianpaulwestwood9062 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for the treatment you received in North Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿. I live on the North Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Coast and had I known at the time you could have had my Vauxhall Zafira which is a good camping car and has loads of space especially if you take the third row of seats out. Ahh well I hope you’re back out safe and sound 👋🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@grimwulf8547
@grimwulf8547 2 жыл бұрын
soooo, you parked infront of a gate where a sign said not to park. you then went on private land without permission. and to top it off when ur car was messed up you had no plan to deal with it yourself like insurance that includes a tow on a flatbed truck and carriage for you to your destination or at least spare cash in the bank to pay for a train. THEN you go on utube playing the victim................. yawn PSno excuse for anyone to do that to ur car but everything that u could do wrong...... you did
@Taterniac
@Taterniac 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know it was a farmer ???? Could be someone thought the car was abandoned.
@MHUK-Matt
@MHUK-Matt 2 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that the mantra 'be kind' hasn't been adopted by many people. You've seemingly taken it well, I would have been angry to find my car in that state. Hello by the way! New Subscriber 😀
@4wdflying
@4wdflying 2 жыл бұрын
The uploader certainly isn't being kind by publicly blaming local people for damaging her car - when there's no evidence it is anything other than opportunist break in by someone passing on the road.
@christunstall3404
@christunstall3404 Жыл бұрын
This is a real shame to see, I’m sorry this happened to you. I get how people would get frustrated but there’s a way to act and this is not it. Thank you for sharing, I will ensure I am extra vigilant from now on. Take care.
@petersmith6974
@petersmith6974 2 жыл бұрын
Take it as a lesson that you can’t do what you want.If private property you have no rights.
@robotsonmars1989
@robotsonmars1989 11 ай бұрын
Incorrect. Someone can park on your driveway and you cannot damage their car to remove it. It’s a civil matter and the police won’t even intervene unless they are blocking you in.The Black Belt Barrister covers this one.
@johncotton7053
@johncotton7053 2 жыл бұрын
That was horrible to watch but you took it on the chin like true champs. What goes around comes around - hopefully. Bless you both.
@CARLIN4737
@CARLIN4737 Жыл бұрын
Didnt have no choice? What proof did they have of who did it? It was well out of order though.
@trevorker-lewis4399
@trevorker-lewis4399 2 жыл бұрын
Criminal damage like this is very worrying, a sharp knife/tool was used to slash those tires. The police need to find this culprit. Good to see that you are both safe.
@trevorker-lewis4399
@trevorker-lewis4399 Жыл бұрын
@D M As I mentioned it’s criminal damage and it is wrong to assume it was anything to do with a farmer.
@marcuscaruana6772
@marcuscaruana6772 2 жыл бұрын
You're really a good calm girl. I admire you. He wouldn't do that kind of thing here in Malta without suffering a deserving reprisal. He could've arranged a towing if it was obstructing. Destroying something which belongs to others means that he will have the same fate over here.
@RubberRivet
@RubberRivet 2 жыл бұрын
When I was about 13 in the 60s a farmer caught us in his field, smack round the back of the head and made us leave through the gate rather than the gap in the hedge, adding about 5 miles to our walk home. That night his electric fence was cut. In the morning we were able to watch him rounding up his cows from the local gardens, which he was having to apologise to the angry neighbours for the damage. 13 year old boys don't stop there, this kept happening for a month or so. I'm not saying we were right but it sure felt good.
@ronnieg6358
@ronnieg6358 2 жыл бұрын
If it was a farmer that did it he must be careful as he must have a shed full of highly combustible hay or straw! I'm a farmer and would welcome two lovely girls like you to camp in my fields but then I'm also a keen wild camper. The best thing to do is to travel by public transport and your vehicle is not vulnerable. If you can find the farmer or landowner just ask. I've always found most of them very sympathetic. I recon a new windscreen and glass plus tyres would get your car back on the road.
@islaws4589
@islaws4589 2 жыл бұрын
Am really sorry your trip ended like that 😣 You are so positive tho and that is awesome ☺️ Wishing you both better wildcamps in 2022 Xx
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, it's a shame but hopefully there's a silver lining somewhere 😊 have a great Xmas x
@islaws4589
@islaws4589 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wanderwithvickers Thank you, you too 😊 x
@chrismccarthy5749
@chrismccarthy5749 Жыл бұрын
No way! 😮. I've just got back from doing the West coast of Scotland, roof box full of fishing gear and food, airbed in the back of the car. It was my first time car camping, and I loved it!😊.
@Stampistuta
@Stampistuta 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a shame. I wouldn’t be too sure it was a farmer as they would be more likely to not allow you to stay the night in the tent had they seen you and damaging the tyres only keeps you there longer. I’m sorry to see you’ve had to deal with such a awful situation, it’s totally unacceptable.
@mikecheq45
@mikecheq45 Жыл бұрын
It was definitely the smelly arsed farmer.
@RiddimKingdom
@RiddimKingdom 3 ай бұрын
100% it was a farmer. They’re THE worst
@malp6280
@malp6280 2 жыл бұрын
its shocking to see it happened etc & then to hear the cars possibly being written off.. I'd just source the door glass via a local scrap yard, new tyres "again"& then get a windscreen via the insurance "glass cover... hopefully" if not you could possibly find/source a replacement without the insurance involvment
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
It's just so mental. But there we go, people are nuts! I wanted to do that, I have a great garage at home. But because breakdown wouldn't cover it, the price to get it home was ridiiiiiiculous
@jonrus
@jonrus 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't blame a farmer. What do you mean by 'a farmer'? Numerous people live in the countryside and work the land to make a living, and it's pretty thankless in many ways - they're people you will have been to school with, who you buy things off daily when shopping (at the end of a long chain of transactions, with the farmers getting minimal profit), who constantly have to repair and maintain the styles, paths and access points to the countryside, and clear the litter left, all unpaid. Horrible experience, yes, my heart goes out to you for your loss, but I think the most a 'farmer' would have done is left a note on the vehicle if they were unhappy about it, it wouldn't occur to them to act in such a way and would be as upset as anyone else to see such vandalism. (There's always exceptions, of course. There are a good few "get off my land" types about, but even then would want you to be able to remove yourself, not disable a vehicle.) I'm a townie, though with a farming ancestry. If there's a bit of countryside I'm particularly fond of, I make an effort to say hello to the farmer/tenant, and it usually pays off. The worst experience that happened to me was getting blocked on a farm track by a huge Landrover in a similar situation to yours and being quizzed about my presence. When the actual landowners found out, they were disgusted and invited me to visit the farm for a cup of tea - the 'farmer' who blocked me turned out to be a casual worker from miles away.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, and this is in no way a generalisation or stereotype.. there are bad people in every profession. But the bottom line is anyone else who could or would have done it, would have looked through the car? Or at least the globe box and would have found themselves a nice £300 go pro 🤔🤷‍♂️
@tonya3519
@tonya3519 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they weren’t thieves, but vandals as has been suggested by local people in these comments?
@debsmostexcellentadventure5353
@debsmostexcellentadventure5353 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video,hope you have a lovely 2022@stay safe debs xx..
@abimarks4749
@abimarks4749 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! How horrible for you both and the doggies 😥. Some people 🤬🤬! Hope you get back on the road soon💕👌🙏💕
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
i know so eveil, the doggies were not happy about loosing thier bed! thank you !! 💕
@thex-it-mountainguideandhi7026
@thex-it-mountainguideandhi7026 2 жыл бұрын
This should be a lesson to others. Whilst I don't condone their actions, you were parked on someone's private land. Its like someone parking on your drive to go to the local shops. Again I stress I do not condone their actions but there's too many people just dumping cars where they like without considering who's property they're actually on.
@wanderingohm
@wanderingohm 2 жыл бұрын
Your not blocking the gate but you are in the gateway. Imagine having to drive through it and turn left or right every day and have someone parked right on the corner meaning you can't see the road your trying to turn onto. There's carparks close to here... £2 would have saved you alot of hassle and save you giving a local community a bad name
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I totally get what your saying, but as I said in the video a local person came and parked opposite me while we were getting out the car, we spoke with him and he says he comes and parks here frequently with no problems. Its the fact we stayed overnight. And also if you look when the break down truck was parked next to us, you can see the vast amount of room that was available
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 2 жыл бұрын
Sign says "keep access gate clear". It does not say "strictly no parking". They parked in a reasonable spot, and kept the access gate clear.
@MontyOutdoors
@MontyOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
How you deal with your car being totalled and how I dealt with my car being totalled, are two different things lol.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 🤣 there was definitely some low points 🤦‍♀️
@MontyOutdoors
@MontyOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wanderwithvickers I hope you get a new car soon and you're not worrying too much about it. I don't want to miss out on your highly amusing content: "Why you there fake rock?" 😂
@susanharvey4235
@susanharvey4235 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to get home safely! Can't believe breakdown wouldn't cover it. You assume if anything happens to the car you're ok.
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank god for family 😍I knoe I was under this impression. I guess it's the car only and not you
@Prashant.Khapane
@Prashant.Khapane 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if this was a farmer. While this is absolutely appalling and I do feel sorry for you was there a reason not to park in parking bays which are perhaps 500m from here?
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
I can't be sure obviously but you get a feeling about such things, especially as the go pro was still in the glove. The parking spots were down a busy a road with no footpath, it was getting late, we had the dogs and sunset was fast approaching.
@jimmyjohnstone5878
@jimmyjohnstone5878 2 жыл бұрын
Plan your journey more efficiently to allow time for parking and to walk to where you intend to camp.
@daniel_001
@daniel_001 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyjohnstone5878 Really? That's your take-away... you're putting some blame on "Wander with vickers" jeez.
@tooyoungtobeold8756
@tooyoungtobeold8756 2 жыл бұрын
Surely four new tyres and a new windscreen would have got you back on the road? Why did the insureres write it off - very strange. Name the insurance company so we can avoid them.
@richardmachen6282
@richardmachen6282 2 жыл бұрын
My friends 2014 Quashqui in very good condition got written off by insurance because all the windows got put through…. Maybe a grands worth of glass to replace?. Insurance companies are definitely just scam artists who would rather scrap a perfectly good car than repair it
@tooyoungtobeold8756
@tooyoungtobeold8756 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardmachen6282 Its also worth checking who buys the 'wreck', as it may be a staff member of the insurance company or a dealer who splits the profit with a memebr of the insurnace company's staff. I had a motorcycle written off but when i complained they changed their minds and paid for the repairs.
@frederick6008
@frederick6008 Жыл бұрын
Does the signage say NO TRESPASSING?
@hennessy4666
@hennessy4666 19 күн бұрын
Even if it did , that doesnt give someoane a right to destroy someoane else s car
@Rabswood296
@Rabswood296 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute bastard. You were being very responsible and harming no one.
@keithgrainger8797
@keithgrainger8797 2 жыл бұрын
That's out of order. But remember just because a car can get in and out the gate doesn't mean large vehicles with trailers can. They need a lot more room. What a bummer.
@lizzrobb2313
@lizzrobb2313 2 жыл бұрын
Omg it was a small car, and there was a wide enough entrance, you could a 40 ft lorry. Just rotten people out, especially leaving to young ladies stranded 😵😡😡. I a grt believer in Karma
@keithgrainger8797
@keithgrainger8797 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizzrobb2313 haven't watched the video in a while . I'm sure when you came through the gate you had to go left or right on to a road. Therefore not possible for a 40f lorry to obtain access or leave with out the trailer squashing anything parked in the bit allowing the trailer to swing round. Which is my point exactly. Looks like enough room, unless you have an understanding how much room is needed and why it's needed.
@matthewmorrow4011
@matthewmorrow4011 2 жыл бұрын
Why was your car written off? Can’t windows and tyres be fixed?🤔
@johnk7093
@johnk7093 2 жыл бұрын
in US dollars, but new tires $650, Front windshield, $300, side windows, $185... $1135-$1200... the car looked in better shape than scrapping... doesn't make sense. sad for the owners... in the wrong or not, farmer (or who ever did it) should be held accountable....
@macdonaldsadler
@macdonaldsadler 2 жыл бұрын
You should have spoken to the farmer/s to see if you could A) would camp, and B) park there. There are plenty of places to park down the Ogwyn valley. So there was no real reason to park at the gate. There are also rough and ready campsites in the area too. Maybe next time even just call or pop into Plas-y-Brenin. They would give advice on where was good to stay also I'm sure especially as they use the area a lot. No excuse for the destruction of property etc. But a bit of consideration goes a long way.
@sheela-na-giga-byte8397
@sheela-na-giga-byte8397 2 жыл бұрын
You're justifying this thuggish behaviour. There is absolutely no excuse. How many times does anyone encounter inconvenience with other vehicles? Doesn't mean we jump out, slash tyres and break windows! Farmers think they're a privileged class when they're largely self entitled bullies
@jimmycburfield5997
@jimmycburfield5997 10 ай бұрын
I sincerely hope you are okay? What a terrible thing to do! That is a very passive aggressive act. You have to question what kind of crazy person did that?
@matthewtanner9823
@matthewtanner9823 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was the farmer. I live in Wales and was a farmer once. Walkers and campers have got a lot of bad press due to leaving litter and dogs worrying sheep during lockdown up at Snowdon. Farmers wouldn't scare two young women like that though or make them become stranded. Farmers are law obiding usually BUT I'm not putting it past a farmer's Son and his friends to do it or kids from the village. If you'd somehow annoyed one of the farmers there they would I've no doubts come to see you up at your tent (I know you've said the tent was hidden but they would have known you were camping there because it's where they live and things like someone camping don't go unnoticed). This seems to me more like the work of the local youths who have become discruntled by people from away ruining their area by leaving litter everywhere. You said there was someone at the farm heckling you? Could this have possibly been the farmer calling his sheep down to feed? Farmers will fill a trough and then call the sheep off the hill. Evenso, I don't think a farmer would do something like damaging somebody's car unless they'd caught you on their land and that gateway wasn't private property. Blame those who came before you and left a beautiful place like snowdonia looking like a tip but even that wouldn't provoke a farmer enough to turn into a criminal.
@alananderson5202
@alananderson5202 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up on a farm in Alberta, Canada. We had fishermen tear down fences and drive in wet pasture leaving no grass and ruts all over. Hunters back over corner posts to get into pasture land. We soon developed disdain for both. Always ask for permission. Always be respectful. The world is not your playground.
@notme1345
@notme1345 9 ай бұрын
Set up a trail cam watching the car they are cheap enough and give you the chance of catching the culprits in future.
@douglasfreeman3229
@douglasfreeman3229 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure this was a farmer? I am a bit wary of farmers when I go wild camping. We have come across a couple of them, one seemed quite chatty, another seemed like he wanted to say something but couldn't quite get it out, which made me think he wanted to "scold" us. I am sorry to hear of your experience. I hope you have not been put off your camping. Your dog is adorable, by the way!
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Aw thank you so much, you can never be 100% but I feel like I copped a lifetime of anger. Most reason being that my glove box was even looked through, I had a new go pro in there xx
@vintagemopeds2767
@vintagemopeds2767 2 жыл бұрын
a farmer would not nick your bank card?
@peterdonnelly6804
@peterdonnelly6804 Жыл бұрын
Says who ?
@peterdonnelly6804
@peterdonnelly6804 Жыл бұрын
Oh that was a question
@Globetrotter-1
@Globetrotter-1 2 жыл бұрын
I very much doubt it was the farmer. Much more likely young lads, slashing tires and throwing rocks through windows.
@carltaylor3924
@carltaylor3924 2 жыл бұрын
What about the credit card?
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone motivated by anything else other than anger would have looked in the glove box and found the go pro and would have bothered to unlock the back to looks through bags which contained valuebles. They had time to do all that to the car but not look through it, seems Sus to me
@Wanderwithvickers
@Wanderwithvickers 2 жыл бұрын
I think the goal there was to make the whole experience more awful and and as difficult for us to get home as possible. Making his point plus some
@BotanyDegreePilkerton
@BotanyDegreePilkerton 2 жыл бұрын
Modern windscreens are almost impossible to break. Car becomes a deathtrap if you end up driving into a body of water, electrics don't work, trapped in the dark...upside down... They sell tools for breaking car windows, and seatbelt cutters. The tool is a tiny piece of porcelein.
@steve-r-collier
@steve-r-collier Жыл бұрын
actually i parked my van in a residential street once with a camping bottle on my front seat only to get a knock on my door from the police near midnight saying my van window had been smashed but nothing taken..i suspect it was the police who had done it out of spite,on another occasion i was sleeping in my van in a layby and the police pulled up at 3am and tapped on my window asking if anyone was in the van..i wonder if i had not replied they would have smashed that window too?
@rob20452
@rob20452 2 жыл бұрын
Shame to write off a decent car for that, it puts insurance up for cases like that
@IfUfindthisURlost
@IfUfindthisURlost 2 жыл бұрын
Am I missing something? It doesn't look a right off. Yes, 4 tyres and two glass screens, but surely they are easily replaced?
@ashmaybe9634
@ashmaybe9634 2 жыл бұрын
Something I haven't seen anyone mention is maybe the farmer has had problems with dogs mauling sheep in the past. (Almost 100% guaranteed) Nothing will make a farmer angrier and more upset than dogs after his sheep. Irrelevant that your dogs were under control when the sheep were there (I assume). If someone has been up there with dogs and sheep have been mauled I can see the farmer losing his shiz and making sure never come back. TLDR it may have been the dogs.
@sheela-na-giga-byte8397
@sheela-na-giga-byte8397 2 жыл бұрын
Still, there's absolutely NO EXCUSE!!! Sheep aren't the only animals who should be protected. Farmers need to wind their necks in too,I mean destroying someone's car because of a dog ON A LEASH magically mulling their precious slaughter for cash herd???
@uknighthuntingvision93
@uknighthuntingvision93 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt if it was the farmer! I lived on and near Dartmoor and worked on farms. If we believe you were blocking our exit and entrance for work ie tractors and trailers (or you are on private property and we don't want you there), we would simply drag the vehicle out of the way and leave it on the main road for the police to tow away (not vandalise it). Most likely youths from local area (male or female), having a bit of fun! (Mentality of some youths these days unfortunately). Don't let the bastards get you down girls, just be wise when it comes to parking your vehicle in future!
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