Wankel! - ruined it for everyone

In this video I chew the fat over Felix Wankel and how he fucked us all.
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[@stykytte]

"Felix Wankel is dead" You've never been to a Mazda seance have you? They crack out a Ouija board and a dorito to try and get back in contact with their apex seals...

[@dirtygarageguy]

LMAO!

[@robgoodsight6216]

Hahahahahahahah

[@mech5]

Word has it the design came to him in a dream at 17 years old.

[@iangrimshaw1]

I just got this mental picture of you being a history teacher who occasionally muddles his facts, smokes tabs during lessons and say, 'fuckin 'ell' a lot. Bloody brilliant!

[@daghany]

Open subtitles (in english), and skip to 6:42. You can see Matthew saying "the wankers are beautiful and there's also the crankshaft gear arrangement a lot of people have heard personally". That made my day. I had a good amount of chuckles throughout the video. Cheers.

[@t0k4m4k7]

"there was the organic horse" i fucking died

[@Moontanman]

I would be interested in hearing about the engine you would like to design...

[@chuckfinley3152]

Moontanman me too

[@FirstLast-tx3yj]

Redbull and Cigs... u man look like ur trapped in the final exam period forever🤣🤣!! Love ur channel!! U feel like a mate giving a lecture and u know ur stuff although u make science so slang!! Keep it up✌

[@lukethementalgent2676]

"And then war happened" The history of my people in a nutshell.

[@NowAndyPlays]

People say smoking is bad for you, but hey population control has to happen one way or another. and that's why i smoke 40 cigarettes a day.

[@jamesford3549]

Good to see wankel content and very unique view on the way it changed the manufacturing landscape

[@exeterinterception]

Just watching an old one and enjoying it, Its a shame you cant do things like this anymore just seems like happier days🙂

[@BULLDOGHOTSHOT1]

Let's just build an engine that runs off the energy of splitting an atom... The atomic engine! One ignition event means you're already there!

[@proluxelectronics7419]

Nice insight, Now back to Del's "I can't afford a lathe now so I'll have to bodge it" Video..

[@CZ350tuner]

"A valve is the same as a transistor"..... NO IT ISN'T!! Valves are a current amplifying device and transistors are a voltage amplifying device. valves use a heater to generate a source of electrons which attracted towards a charged anode (at 250 to 660 Volts DC) and operate at very low currents. Transistors pass electrons at high currents (compared to a valve) through substrate and use biasing to control the flow. In this way transistors can control very high voltage levels using only a very small control input voltage. I've seen the original patent for the 1st 2 stroke engine from the 1870's online. It had a wet crank and was charged by a separate induction & injector piston. Strange how this design has been reinvented over 100 years later. Crank case induction wasn't devised until the 1890's, along with the need for oil in the fuel mixture. Whatever happened to the Norton stepped piston 2 stroke 500 that featured in BIKE Magazine in 1981?? It looked interesting.

[@colinfitzsimons3409]

How did I manage to miss this video 2 years ago? If only I'd seen this I'd have given up on trying to design a better engine. Goodbye opposed piston 90 degree v twin single crank 2 stroke design. RIP Single crank and dual crank compressed air hybrid engines. Save my money and relax in the 🌞

[@LockieNZ]

I think a lot of manufacturers are probably reluctant to invest in any form of combustion engine at the moment with the EV push that's happening. A lot of them either have EV models or have them on the way and like it or not, it's going to be the automotive future.

[@LockieNZ]

@David Stevenson As a motorcyclist, I can already tell you that I have no control over the other drivers on the road, and I'd be more likely to trust AI drivers over most of the muppets out there on the roads! Hahaha

[@LockieNZ]

The future is pretty hard to predict around that, as there's a lot of variables involved, as well as public and political opinion. Who knows, we might end up with separate roads for fully autonomous vehicles. They would function at a far greater level of efficiency in a connected hive mind that we humans do. Allowing human drivers to be part of that would only pull that efficiency down. You're always going to have those people who ride and drive for recreation and enjoyment though. So where we do find a happy medium? We're probably a good 20 years away from that conversation yet though. The autonomy we do have is based around existing roading infrastructure. Cameras on cars detecting lanes, infrared sensors detecting car distances etc. Not really sufficient for the full autonomy that's being envisioned.

[@dirtygarageguy]

I think bikes will be left alone in the western world, with a mix of eletric and petrol until petrol is no longer worth selling. Just like 2 strokes and their use as 'recreational vehicles' As far as emissions go in the western world, bikes are a very small contributor.

[@jimciancio9005]

Don't forget the Bourke Cycle a self supercharging 2 stroke!

[@buckaroobonsi555]

It was an excellent idea on paper it just did not deliver in the real world!

The conventional explosive test was the equivalent of 100 tons of TNT but the Trinity blast was 20,000 tons.

[@daveallen2325]

Love the intro music. Thanks for the intro

[@patthewoodboy]

its a great idea , rotation is a better idea than reciprocation .. Electric motors :-)

[@neilhuband995]

Jonathan Vogel I prefer the old in out, in out personally

[@patthewoodboy]

me too , the sound:-)

[@patthewoodboy]

cheap energy.

[@MrSnakedHD]

David Stevenson electric motors are extremely simple, except back then it was not economically relevant. Also, how would you power those motors ?

[@hallkbrdz]

Or... turbine powered electric motors.

[@TopC333]

The Mrs has horses. Yes there shit & yes there expensive and they take far more time than a motorcycle and actually literally shit the bed every fucking night even Christmas eve lol.

[@777sibannac]

Curious, what's the deal with the mugs prohibited?

[@dirtygarageguy]

'mugs' is slang for stupid people

[@TheWolvesCurse]

German carmanufacturer NSU went bankrupt because of their wankelpowered Ro80 model. they replaced broken engines free of charge. some cars went through 7 or 8 engines within 2 years, so there's a lot of money going down the drain. was great company though, but this mistake made them go down.

[@immikeurnot]

The Renesis (the apex - heh - of the Wankel design) typically lasted about 60,000 miles in my experience. Reliability has never been worth a damn on those engines.

[@BurpleRX7]

As a rotary owner I have dreaded this video, mainly because I know your right in every way,......but I’m a stubborn wanker and I know what I like. As for the future of the rotary engine I think it still has a place. The latest trend is performance cars with small engines and massive electric motors like the BMW i8 and the Honda NSX, In this application with a highly revised rotary I think it could work. But yeah the main faults with the engine are very apparent and not easily rectified

[@BurpleRX7]

As for your separate video I know your planning your 3D print, there are a few guys out there designing ultra realistic 3D designs of the rotaries mainly to make decorative pieces or educational models much like you will be doing

[@BurpleRX7]

I would say Mercedes continued technological progression but to a much lesser extent, F1 used to be a vehicle technology forebearer pushing the limits to try new things that soon got passed down to the mainstream but even that has disappeared now with the modern day borefest, Only really seems to be koenigsegg trying to push things forward now with Solid state cams etc Crying shame

[@milksheihk]

The NSU RO80s major failure was that they released it to the public with an essentially still experimental engine & put a ten year free replacement warranty on the engine, they bankrupted Autounion & were bought out by VW, VW Renamed them Audi & their piston engined vehicles formed the basis of pretty much every 70s VW that wasn't a boxer.

[@thomasphilyaw8593]

Never really understood the Wankel love that much, but the sound of a turboed triple rotor is pure power sounding.

[@robc1014]

Thats pretty much it pal, it sounds great, they don’t weigh all that much and don’t take up much space considering the power they can make with forced induction. There are better engines overall but for small cars like my MK1 MX5 its a brilliant engine to swap in without ruining the balance of the chassis.

[@darraghgrassick2549]

Top class matt✊️ knew you had a thing for wankel👍🏻 is the hemi wankel vid comin soon?🤔

[@dirtygarageguy]

Yes - as soon as I've finished all this 3D printing shite

[@guillo88]

i was missing this tipe of history+engines videos!!!

[@immikeurnot]

Emissions is the final nail in the Wankel engine's coffin. The spark plug ports are an insurmountable problem. It doesn't help the emission problem that Mazda convinced the US EPA that the Wankel displaces 1/3 of its actual displacement. I remember the late '80s RX-7 needing 3 catalytic converters to meet emissions. The design is beautiful in its simplicity, but it's too flawed to compete with today's piston engines.

[@robertbeattie3988]

At the start of the video i thought it was an exhaust flange 😂🙈

[@digger8180]

Electric motorcycles are the way forward. That's it, the likes of same unfortunately will make the likes of myself and perhaps many others an unnecessary. However some like Wankel must be applauded for their engineering impulse. When I was at Technical Collage many moon's ago I remember some old Dr of engineering telling us idiots he worked with Wankel... But the most interesting and the coolest dood my far was a guy called Dr Bob Johnston, he was a Metallurgy scholar, employed as a young man to help change the grain structure of heavy munitions during the Vietnam conflict. Ended up as one of the World's lights on continuous casting.

[@dirtygarageguy]

"Electric motorcycles are the way forward." - LMAO - don't be a dick. There's a difference between what going to happen and 'the way forward'

[@kylevanzee1672]

Achates power! 😎 I know your going to do the video come on Matt!! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@BunnyR13]

Wankel: Funny word to pre-teen boys. Fucking shite to any-one who understands their problems. Knew a guy who worked on the Villiers Norton Wankel projects and if he's still alive, he'd send Matt running for a matronly shoulder to cry on with the amount of swearing used about the pointless-ness of them. I owned 2 Mazda 13b Elford Turbo cars, both got fixed and sold fast. .... mainly cos they were dypsomaniac drinkers with a penchant for fucking up faster than an F1 pit-stop.

[@MrS22222]

lmao, had to light a smoke to talk about it. I really don't like the wankel engine, it's an oil burning, gas gargling, unreliable and inefficient piece of beautiful sounding garbage. They usually go bad around 100k from either the turbine housing warping from hot spots, burning the exhaust valves to shit. It just isn't as serviceable or reliable as conventional piston driven engines. The seals go bad, then it usually ends up with a big stupid replacement of everything from vacuum related damage.

[@danielwindstra5116]

didn't suzuki almost go bankrupt because of their RE5 motorcycle? think i've read that somewhere

[@-ROB-E-]

True! You can find a docu here on youtube ;-)

[@grlaycock67]

It's a shame really, because you only have to look at the Van Veen OCR1000 to see that it was one drop dead gorgeous motor, especially when viewed from the offside (UK) or nearside for those who drive on wrong side o' road.

[@Happy--Days]

Your dead right but it looks like electric brushless motors, so we need to make better power cells to drive them. mini fusion reactor?

[@-ROB-E-]

And i still like my fog machine. The Suzuki RE5 :-)

[@SCFBUSSUNESS123]

You say you will build a engine one day....... and stand behind it and present it to Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha TRIUMPH

[@sleepwalker3520]

where do you stand on the debate say for instance a 13b (1300cc) is actually 3.9L (somewhat explains the fuel consumption) basically from what i understand about the debate, a rotary engine is measured by only a single combustion chamber rather than all cmbined like a conventional cylinder engine... i dont even know if its ture they only measure one combustion chamber

[@immikeurnot]

That is true. Only one face of each rotor is measured. IIRC, it was Mazda that came up with that as a marketing ploy: "Look how much power this little 1.3 liter engine makes!" It's been biting them in the ass for decades when it comes to meeting emissions standards, though. The FC cars had three catalytic converters in the exhaust when everything else on the road only had one. Of course, the Wankel is just a dirty engine to begin with. IIRC, the spark plug ports are one of the biggest issues with trying to make the thing run clean.

[@saraguard05]

some floating cards on another video led me here.

[@bretsnow5058]

I am a rotary guy and do own one seties 3 rx7 with a 13b extended angle cut bridge port engine 300 hp at the wheels

[@petefletcher]

Excellent!

[@brentsmith4394]

Good video

[@buckaroobonsi555]

Something thing else we do not know! We do not know what research has been done by various companies internally. We have no clue unless they tell us what big corporations like General Motors, Ford, Daimler, Toyota has done in secret on their own. White paper's only get written up when they are glowing with success or they break new ground. On top of that you really only give the customer what they will pay for and demand. It is funny really when Government attempts to legislate better fuel economy or higher safety standards etc....If you could create success and innovation through legislation well we would living in a world more like something out of Star Trek by now wouldn't we? LOL

[@raywalsh5822]

like one of the subscribers said norton had sucess with it for a few years winning tt with steve hislop and trevor nation on board

[@jt-wy8qc]

do a video on cutting lines in a 2 stroke head and then look at rk tek head and tell me what you think I tried the lines and don't like it but maybe it can help some bikes burn less fuel by burning to the side of the piston faster so less goes out the pipe idk but this is the ideal, I think if some 1 diy a head with lines then they should cut the head down to get the compression back up and do a real test

[@peted7295]

Miller cycle?

[@bobgc1954]

Radio modellers used Wankel Engines made by O:S. Waste time and check it out? Interesting though.

[@tomast9034]

and that horse have to like you too :D:D....to the wankel engine check the seatbelt tensioner if you have a vw its a pretty high chance there is a tiny wankel engine in it.

[@dirtygarageguy]

like this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2TXlJ-mdp2BitU

[@MexicanNoodle]

a lot of shed guys. building things out of their sheds.... ironically as you are talking about this out of your shop. I feel like youtube and the internet has propagated this again today.

[@dirtygarageguy]

We'll talk about that real soon.

[@mikeyfrompiha]

Shame the Britten never went into a huge production run

[@upsidedowndog1256]

It is a damn shame for sure. The guy was a glass artist by trade.

[@upsidedowndog1256]

@Paolo G Not according to Cycleworld magazine. He could do that stuff but his trade was decorative glass sculptures.

[@mikeyfrompiha]

He was a genius , that covers just about everything !

[@upsidedowndog1256]

@@mikeyfrompiha Absolutely!

[@upsidedowndog1256]

@Paolo G Like I said, his profession was the artistic glass. The motojournalist in question went to New Zealand and hung out with John a bit before his death from melanoma. First hand experience beats Wikipedia in my book. But then the internet is NEVER WRONG, right? Bon jour.

[@karabesklow]

Duuuuudeeeeee! Cut the smoke and the energy drink ! its unhealthy ! :P

[@dirtygarageguy]

So is youtube LOL

[@karabesklow]

+The Workshop hehehe 😂😂😂

[@MrPolska55]

Im not so sure everyone loves a Wankle now and again

[@trentmarlowe7655]

Ralph Sarich Orbital engine.

[@jfeal]

Apparently there is only one "blanche" machine in canada

[@chasingcapsaicin]

Personally helped change the god dam seals on an RX7 five times in one year. FarkMe

[@MJTAUTOMOTIVE]

I wouldn't go telling people that you rebuilt an engine 5 times in a year. Obviously you don't know what your doing if it kept needing to have the seals replaced.

[@chasingcapsaicin]

You obviously don't know the engine, or just how hard we were ragging the fuck out of it on mountain switchbacks. There were 3 sets of tires in that time frame so rightly "fuckoff"

[@chasingcapsaicin]

Why the fuck does your RX3 rag out at 9600, squize me that

[@chasingcapsaicin]

Likely so, but I had dam more fun up Fourmile_Canyon than you did en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourmile_Canyon

[@chasingcapsaicin]

Try Pikes Peak for a run out and out and see if she pops after

[@raywalsh5822]

looks like a washing machine.so its wash and go

[@rush9646]

Can I ask one thing

[@jompazx1272]

id love to rebuild a wankel!

[@onhawaii]

If I remember it right you have to use wood and hammer dogshit on the bike they it will be loosing a ton of weight.

[@miles11we]

Yo if you happened to throw some "further reading" or whatever links in your description of stuff that's related or you found interesting.. that could be cool too I suppose.

[@SpartanMJO12]

Put them death sticks down!! I'd prefer it if you weren't dead lol

[@raywalsh5822]

three stroke

[@mranthonye]

Will Delboy be buying a Wankel engine to put into his next project? He could use No Nails to seal his cases lol

[@MrBiggabit]

Will your engine design run on water? what you meant by BIGGER fish to fry? LOL The Oil industry would purchase and shelf?

[@MrBiggabit]

With us petrol heads being blamed for polluting the planet development of electric will receive the funding. Sadly the internal combustion engine is fast becoming the fossil it runs on. Maybe you should design a jet engine since there are no such regulations imposed on the aerospace industry. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5erhIypj7ytntE

[@raywalsh5822]

my brother had an nsu in the seventys

[@neilhuband995]

ray walsh I had a sti in the nineties Edit: not for the whole decade, only until I got myself along to the gum clinic

[@rush9646]

I have the solution of main problem of wankle engine and I want to clarify with you if my solution is a real solution I don't have anyone else to clarify with please

[@dirtygarageguy]

Email me [e-mail]

[@rush9646]

I am highly thankful for your kindness I will definitely write to you sir

[@archangel3237]

Could you do a video on the GM wankel engine?

[@Apex180]

360p Gang....

[@raywalsh5822]

suzuki made a rotary bike in seventys .only for a year i think

[@LockieNZ]

As did Norton

[@stevenlevstik7257]

Paolo G sacks

[@stevenlevstik7257]

Sorry, Sachs

[@funcounting]

Why do you wanna sell your engine to Suzuki specifically tho? Also, I really hope somebody takes up the Hossack engine and builds bikes with it.

[@dirtygarageguy]

Not Suzuki specifically. I said 'as an example'

[@funcounting]

Sorry, must've zoned out. Still if you got a shot at selling it to some of the big boys which one would you want most to buy your stuff first?

[@matthewfredrickmfkrz1934]

Wouldn't efficiency be a chemistry thing

[@carlfairfield3314]

If you have a stoiciometric combustion, you then need to harness all that released energy, the Atkinson cycle is more efficient than the Otto cycle, but it has a lower power density.

[@mandernachluca3774]

@@carlfairfield3314 Don't forget the impossible carnot cycle ;D.

[@dirtygarageguy]

"Wouldn't efficiency be a chemistry thing" - LOL there are loads of 'efficiencies'. Thermal, volumetric, mechanical and fuel (which is related to both thermal and volumetric)

[@martybartfast]

If you're going to build a petrol engine and take it to Suzuki then you'd better be quick. Have you thought about a career change to electric motors?? That's where we need to go. 😉 🏍

[@rush9646]

Please let me ask

[@brabhamfreaman166]

Smoking - thumbs down 👎

[@jareknowak8712]

787B won Le Mans.....

[@dirtygarageguy]

and was then banned LOL

[@jareknowak8712]

@@dirtygarageguy yes, bc was too fast Matt.

[@mbsnyderc]

The rotary engine is great for racing total shit for anything else.unreliable,burns oil,fuel inefficient.

[@rush9646]

Please let me ask one thing

[@dirtygarageguy]

Go for it

[@rush9646]

Why didn't they used rings on the side of rotery engine to seal the side better(for better ausolation sealing) And also please please make a video on roatery engine please

[@rush9646]

Please reply

[@rush9646]

I can explain what I meant to say of you give me your e mail or something

[@dirtygarageguy]

They did, they're called side seals

[@kieran1484]

i swear every video you put up your referencing or mentioning a video your ganna do next or in the future

[@dirtygarageguy]

so?

[@dirtygarageguy]

This is to stop all the 'but what about.......' questions I get every 10 minutes.

[@kieran1484]

lol but you still get those questions

[@raywalsh5822]

hepitrachoid

[@dreddwailing6395]

Buy a couple of T8 LEDs you cheapskate :-)

[@Robertas_Grigas]

Stop smoking dipped paper! Invest some money into cigars or real cigies.

[@dirtygarageguy]

or fuckoff

[@MegaPoxie]

I thought this was going to be about Dell Bollocks!

[@GabsSystemsbuster]

first

[@oiitssean]

Was good enough for Le Mans....