Want A Smooth Gaming Experience? - What Hardware Do You Need?

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@1timothydillon
@1timothydillon 4 жыл бұрын
I was moving my main toon in Warcraft from one area to another. I didn't have time to play much, just wanted to set myself up for the next time I do. I decided to knock off a couple of quests before logging back out, and while running around, some people started complaining about all the lagging. I had zero. Since I was only there for a moment, I didn't question them about their systems. My old computer had horrendous lag. Going from an HDD to an SSD, 8GB of RAM to 32, from a CPU with two cores to one with eight, and from a GTX650 to a 5600XT, not to mention a motherboard, my new computer hasn't had a single blip of lagging. Not that they were, but I can imagine trying to play with minimum requirements, let alone upping, or maxing out the graphics. I've had these discussions before. One area will have tons of trees, grass, objects, and an invasion of creatures moving around, and be very laggy, while another area is mostly sand, with a few other things. Eventually people start whining that it's all the companies fault because their servers are garbage, or that it's the programmers fault because they have no idea what they are doing. At that point I just have to let them stay lost.
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 4 жыл бұрын
Check out the channel Hardware Numb3rs. The guy is a very knowledgeable overclocker that does a ton of tests on World of Warcraft, city, flightpaths and full raids. He tuned his 6800 XT to outdo the 3090 in World of Warcraft tight memory timing and SAM. I love his channel.
@hhectorlector
@hhectorlector 4 жыл бұрын
@@TerraWare yep Hardware Numb3rs is the lord and savior of WoW benchmarks. Much love for spreading the word about him!
@Nookie94
@Nookie94 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that the game is only worthy of a MacBook Air nowadays :(
@azmc4940
@azmc4940 4 жыл бұрын
Morale of the Story: You CAN get 64 GB of RAM, or you can just use the bookmark functionality of your browser instead of keeping 500 tabs open all the time.
@dekderekdek
@dekderekdek 4 жыл бұрын
yep,I bookmark sites but never open again.
@sundarchip
@sundarchip 4 жыл бұрын
*moral
@cadman5610
@cadman5610 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aki_Lesbrinco Exactly, I am sitting here wondering how many tabs they have open. Shoot, I have 10 tabs open and still struggle to pass 16 gigs in use while playing world of warships.
@lewislu8533
@lewislu8533 4 жыл бұрын
@@cadman5610 What about just get 128 gigs of ram and put world of warships in ram instead of ssd
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 4 жыл бұрын
@@cadman5610 You will never know that you need 32gb ram until if you have it and can't go back. It is really difficult to emulate over text. It is the same reason why 240 hz might be really hard to compare to 144hz because you will only KNOW that you need that when you have it. it is difficult to go from 32 to 16 gb ram or 240 to 144hz. You will notice that. It depends what you play, I certainly don't think world of warships will breach 16gb ram. But for me I played cod zombies and I could easily range between 14 to 20. If you don't reach 12 or 14/16 then you don't need to upgrade but if you get to that 90% usage then you will be uneasy. That is all.
@PegasusTenma1
@PegasusTenma1 4 жыл бұрын
For future viewers, let me just put this here. A smooth gameplay doesn’t necessarily mean high frame rates. You can have high frame rates average but your gameplay could be crappy. Likewise, you could have a lower but consistent frame rate and the gameplay would be pretty smooth.
@stardust_sonic
@stardust_sonic 4 жыл бұрын
Like on one hand, you have 100 FPS on average, but most of the time it frequently oscillates between 25 and 175 FPS. And on the other hand, you have a constant 70 FPS and it doesn't vary much, maybe 77 to 83 FPS.
@peppa1492
@peppa1492 4 жыл бұрын
Basically: make sure your frametimes low (with 1% and 0.1% lows being high).
@freshdiaper427
@freshdiaper427 4 жыл бұрын
you could have a 1 core cpu that gets 1000 FPS but that cpu is bad because of the one core, but your frametimes would be terrible,but im sure some people would take the one core CPU
@EricTanGH0ST
@EricTanGH0ST 4 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell yes. This is why I lock my frame rate in every game even that I have a 2080 Super.
@enrique6335
@enrique6335 4 жыл бұрын
60 FPS with no change in frametimes is silky smooth. Is 144FPS better? Based on what I've seen with my eyes, yes, 100%, but to consistently maintain that in anything other than older and indie games or substantial sacrifices in detail settings requires much higher end hardware.
@thanasisoikonomou710
@thanasisoikonomou710 4 жыл бұрын
I went from 16gb to 32gb of ram. For a person like myself (2 monitors, having multiple tabs open , watching a stream or movie while playing or even playing some side game while waiting for overwatch match queues) the difference was noticeable. Not huge but easily noticeable and omg the luxury of not worrying what is open and what i need to close. I usually hover around 20gb of ram usage.
@ByteSizeTech
@ByteSizeTech 4 жыл бұрын
Bingo - ^^^ This!!! Glad you are enjoying your freedom!!!
@yoemaz57
@yoemaz57 4 жыл бұрын
These peeps really gave me a new perspective on CPU. Glad I went with 8 core 3700x in the end but trust me it seems everyone and their mother is convincing you 6 is enough. I even wish I gave Intel a more fair shot, as I kinda disregarded them outta the gate.
@jackandeson6302
@jackandeson6302 4 жыл бұрын
I know I was going to go amd but in the end I decided to go intel even after everyone told me not to upgrade my ryzen 5 3600 to an i9 9900 because there was no difference but there definitely was everything loaded so much faster on the i9 I know it’s not really a fair comparison but this was in November 2020 and the local computer store had a sale on so I could get an i9 9900 for the same price an a ryzen 5 3600
@meltedmarshdaddy
@meltedmarshdaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Don't let this clown scare you 6 is enough if its paired with 12 threads like the 5600x is. This is coming from somebody with a 5900x , and the misinformation on here is ridiculous.
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 3 жыл бұрын
@@meltedmarshdaddy I have a 5900x and I disagree with you strange huh!
@macobean
@macobean 4 жыл бұрын
16gb is enough for most people, 32gb is enough for gamer multitasker, 64gb or more is for heavy multitasker editors. i have 32gb, i play warzone and some 3 to 5 tabs of chrome, and i already use around 17gb of ram. thats not a benchmark, but my daily usage experience
@musek5048
@musek5048 4 жыл бұрын
now thats a sensible breakdown i can agree with!
@MrZodiac011
@MrZodiac011 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and a breakdown that makes sense, I still hear some people saying 32gb is absolutely pointless for gamers and 64gb is just pointless fullstop. But 32gb for gaming makes sense if playing newer games and if you have some stuff open in the background, with a high-end CPU you should have 32gb. I'm going to 64gb very soon, another 32gb kit is on it's way, and i'll see what that does, I'm doing it for the sake of it, but we'll see. I play anything and everything and often leave stuff open in the background i also have 2 monitors
@mikeramos91
@mikeramos91 4 жыл бұрын
5 tabs open with warzone & using 17gb?? i have 150 tabs open playing warzone & using 15gb.
@RickyEnEspanol
@RickyEnEspanol 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeramos91 That's because more of your tabs are "cached". 32 gb of ram will also reduce microstutters and swap. Your 1% lows and .1% lows will be much better with 32. The consoles have 16 gb.... If any PC's that are newly built starting with Holiday 2020, I will openly call them peasantstations because that's what a PC with equal ram to a console is. 16 GB of Ram is garbo in warzone, and I would HATE to sit at 90% of ram usage, like do you not care about your SSD? The amount of swapping it's doing to that drive is insane.
@mikeramos91
@mikeramos91 4 жыл бұрын
@@RickyEnEspanol but wouldn’t it start swapping only if it uses full system ram first? Or does it start swapping early on?
@FARDEENKHANQWE123
@FARDEENKHANQWE123 4 жыл бұрын
i can explain why you don't need it: don't run 200 programs at the same time. maybe then your 3600X wont be bottlenecking you..how about that? the things you guys run are not what normal people run that don't have that time and cash... tbh you 2 specifically need to run 2 threadripper cpu's with rtx 9090 TI and 400gigs on ram to what you call 'gaming'.. (which is probly gaming while video editing while streaming with 4 different browsers open with each 400 tabs open all loading videos whiles emulating and benching the hardware all at the same time)
@williamchiawq3747
@williamchiawq3747 4 жыл бұрын
Buying PC components is like In game purchase skill points in a RPG game. Ideally you can relentlessly max out every single states if you have money. If not, then just spend what you can spend. 3600x or 3900x 16GB or 64GB, its fine. What you spent what you get, just that simple. Afford that what you can afford for an upgrade. I'm happy with 3600 with 16GB of RAM, 1660 super of "damn" course bottleneck hard in cyberpunk 2077 that I wont think its playable in High settings. So still average FPS comes 1st, those so called smooth experience comes later. Spend money on GPU 1st, simply because make a pc at least can play game (of course beware on your PSU) then start look into what else you think worth to invest. Getting whole new pc and upgrade pc are totally two different shit. Just enjoy and upgrade things slowly, I believe its enjoyable for PC master race.
@Antido0
@Antido0 4 жыл бұрын
i have to agree with my own experience that this guy is right tho if you arent going to multitask isnt better to just buy a console that is cheaper? buying a pc to just open one program isnt worth the money at all, pcs are made to do a lot of stuff at the same time with the current amount of average cores at least when i was using a 4 cores 8 threads a month ago my cpu was literally suffering with the little multitask i do, and am almost sure a 3600 or 5600 couldnt handle that, i dont open too many programs, maybe just 4-5 like discord steam line and the rest are monitoring programs like msi afterburner and hwmonitor plus a game or two once i switched to a ryzen 5900x i have to say that all these stutterings or randomly drop fps are gone, it may be an overkill for any game for now but at least i wont have to worry for a long time and the experience is great like you i thought this guy was exagerating but in the end after having my own experience i have to agree with him, except with the 64 gb ram thats an overkill for now but being forced to not open the programs i want to have a smooth gaming experience isnt a good thing at least for me, maybe for you it works but idk how many people will do that, most of them may be playing in their own ps4 or ps5 anyway only people can tell by their own experiences, hope you get to try one of these "premium" builds and youll be convinced btw once you get used to have x amount of programs open it doesnt feel right when you dont and it feels worse when youre forced to because your game requires all your cores (6 in this case)
@williamchiawq3747
@williamchiawq3747 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Antido0 Case by case, little compromises can save you lot of money. If you really have tons of programs run at the same time, then definitely require more cores and larger memory size and speed. Web browser with few tabs + MSI afterburner (if you want monitor cpu gpu status) + game (i think mostly people open one game at a time only) + peripheral software like those Logitech G-Hub pretty basic for most pc users. Game is still the heaviest consuming PC hardware. Then least frequent micro-stutter in game, its still ok-ish for somebody. PC with mouse and keyboard are simply the most convenient to on and off your program and software. Not necessary to zero compromise and define "multitasking" as all software must to turn on. Some software especially web browser can closed when you want to game. Its quite can reduce some unnecessary stress on your CPU and RAM. Plus I'm using microsoft edge, trust me, its way better than Chrome and consumed much lesser RAM.
@FARDEENKHANQWE123
@FARDEENKHANQWE123 4 жыл бұрын
i agree with you and with teach deals on that 10 or 12 cores make for way way way way better computer experience than a 4 or 6 core machine.obviously the more you spend the better the experience!!! but do we need good experience or do we just need the game up and running? cause i can tell ya that all these games run on a 4core cpu.the differnce is the AAA and the fact that tech runs 20 different programs whil he plays AAA games. if we all needed 12 core cpu's.. those 6cores guys would. all throw that garbage away.12 cores and 64gb ram isnt needed.not everybody plays triplea titles whilest running 10+ other games at the same time.
@Antido0
@Antido0 4 жыл бұрын
they can run in 4 cores but you will have stuttering from time to time, used to have one or two every hour or two, game would freeze for few seconds and that was for simple games like dota 2, apex(theyre suposed to be easy to run) games a little more demanding like dmc5 would crash if i put ultra settings and that was with the 3080 on it also have to say that ive switched gpu before cpu and i watched a lot of benchmarks with my current pc + 3080 and they were saying "just a 10 or 15% difference you dont need to replace your cpu" guess what, once i switched cpu i got a lot more of fps, even the minimum was x2 or almost x3 the fps than the average with the other cpu at that moment i learned to not watch benchmarks anymore, theyre just a waste of time and a lie in case youre curious i was using a i7 7700k and the new cpu is a 5900x btw another experience was when i disabled half of the cores and the pc became a 6 core 12 threads, at the moment i was just playing with the settings at ryzen master, have to say that im glad i didnt upgrade to a 6 core pc
@Gamevet
@Gamevet 4 жыл бұрын
The 9900K was $300 a week ago, now a 9700K is almost $300.
@AngryChineseWoman
@AngryChineseWoman 4 жыл бұрын
Here we go again with these 64 gb of ram for people who game with 10 programs and 100000 chrome tabs in the background for some reason. 95% of PC gamers don't do that and will do very fine with 32 gb.
@AceBoombap
@AceBoombap 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Most people have like 3 programs running at the same time, discord,some kind of music/video player and their game. Plus, lets say steam. Thats about it. 32 will do just fine.
@SirDaffyD
@SirDaffyD 4 жыл бұрын
@@AceBoombap. I'm doing that with my R5 3600, 16gig 3200Mhz ram, and RTX2070 Super. No issues at all. :)
@matthewsmith2385
@matthewsmith2385 4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m thinking 32 gigs is already kinda unnecessary 16gb is entry level now
@matthewsmith2385
@matthewsmith2385 4 жыл бұрын
@@SirDaffyD I had 16 and I upgraded to 32
@SirDaffyD
@SirDaffyD 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewsmith2385. Been thinking about 32gig myself, but what kit do I get? I'm looking at 3600MHz CL16. I've been looking at the G-Skill Trident Z NEO, because it's advertised as good for AMD, but does it really make that much diff over the normal G-Skill Trident Z RGB. It's something I need to know, with the NEO being around $40 Au more expensive than the RGB. Or will any 3600MHz CL16 do pretty much the same? There's cheaper kits with those specs out there.
@andymaxwell23
@andymaxwell23 4 жыл бұрын
Here's my experience @Tech. I recently bought an i5 10400f (good deal on an open box part) for my new build, because that's all I need. When I realised that an i7 would likely give me a better user experience and there weren't any gfx cards around to replace my rx570 anyway I spent the cash to get a secondhand i7 10700 (non-k). So......I have been gaming on Ghost Recon Breakpoint (thanks for the recommendation @Tech) and Shadow of the Tomb Raider for the last month on the i5 and RX570 (Vulkan is a better experience than DX btw) but as soon as the i7 went in....well......I didn't do side by side figures based analysis but I am SURE the game is smoother....perceptibly so. Unbiddened, the words out of my mouth were "Silky". That frametime graph seems flatter also, even though the frametime figures don't appear to be any different. This could all be confirmation bias but it doesn't feel like it. Also, levels load 30-50% faster...which is VERY nice, and it connects to Ubisoft servers WAY faster than before. There is also a snappier response in Windows. Could I have lived with the i5 there, sure, but it's still like someone opened up the tap a little wider which is nice. Now, I am not a hardcore/AAA gamer and I'm not a power user in any other way so did i need to spend the money, no, am i glad i did, yes (even though it's double the price). Do games appear to be smoother yes. Was it worth the money, yes. (I suspect that having had the i5 and now having the i7 I can appreciate the difference. Initially I didn't want to spend i7 money and think perhaps I might have regretted it had I not had the i5.) Thanks Tech. i5 10400f from Ebay £123 i7 10700 from CEX (in the UK) £255
@boosteddaily1294
@boosteddaily1294 4 жыл бұрын
SSD, 16GB of RAM, and at least an RX570. Don't believe the hype unless you're trying to play at 160FPS plus on warzone or something.
@landsoul
@landsoul 4 жыл бұрын
with so much multitask you don't need more cores but in reality you need more eyes.
@ShiftnoteProductions
@ShiftnoteProductions 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@goldenheartOh
@goldenheartOh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those gamers who only runs a game & that's it (for the 1hr a month I get to game.). No multitasking other than a browser may be left open but not visible on the 1 monitor I use. 3700x, 16GB Ram, RTX-2070 Super. Borderlands 3 is my newest game & IIRC, ram usage is far below 16gb. Any frame stutters are rare, or I don't notice them. I love 120fps (setting turned down just a little to reach that.) Also love those Black Frame Insertions for zero motion blur.
@H0don
@H0don 4 жыл бұрын
8:50 that reaction, I'm laughing so much 😂
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍
@jeremyjarvis8100
@jeremyjarvis8100 3 жыл бұрын
I NEED 10 CORES TO WATCH TECH!
@bluemojos
@bluemojos 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tech and Rogue for all the user experience you've been sharing from using all these PC hardware. They really help a lot in making purchase decisions. 👍
@phoenixfire111
@phoenixfire111 4 жыл бұрын
Just be happy with whatever piece of technology you already have. Be thankful.
@Outmind01
@Outmind01 2 жыл бұрын
This resonates so much more a year later.
@babyrage1763
@babyrage1763 4 жыл бұрын
Me: *Raises my hand with my 8 gb ram in 2021
@xXNunduXx
@xXNunduXx 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@antoniocepaj7544
@antoniocepaj7544 4 жыл бұрын
At least you have 8gb I have 4Gb :( though in the reaserch proces for new pc, this one is 10+ year's old, but working fine for what it was ment to do before, and even some things know.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 4 жыл бұрын
my haswell build have 16GB
@neoperol
@neoperol 4 жыл бұрын
@@antoniocepaj7544 I still have a laptop with 8GB of ram I would'nt recommend anything lower than 32GB for 2021. Chrome eats those 8 GB like there is no tomorrow. I bought that laptop with 8GB ram and 128 SSD now I can not even resell it for a decent price.
@mihapeterca7940
@mihapeterca7940 4 жыл бұрын
@@neoperol yeah ... im in a search of laptop ... but you need 1500 of whatever ... may it be usd, euro etc ... cuz prices fluzters depending on your location; so at least for a system with 16gbs of ram And thats too much If for new pc you could get 32 or 64gb of ram for that price system
@kadugyam
@kadugyam 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 5600x with 64gb of ram and an rtx2080 ti, and it’s beautiful as i don’t “multi task “ while gaming. I also use one single monitor. Sure it’s probably a glorified console, however i also use it for work and it works well. When i am working, i am working and don’t need a 5900x to have a game in the background and KZbin and many tabs open at the same time. I think your so called “computer experience “ you keep mentioning is unique to you and a small select few. Sure more cores etc the better, but for most a 5600x will work just fine for most. Also sure i agree more ram never hurts for “smoothness “ but please stop hating on those who are happy with a 5600x. It’s like saying because you have a Porche or Ferrari means a Corvette or BMW M5 is rubbish. They are all good, and it depends on need, use, and affordability. If not overly multi tasking, then buy a 5600x, and put the money towards the graphics card and Ram; and or even the SSD.
@t_t4298
@t_t4298 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, that your 5600x kicks 9900K's butt in single and multithreaded applications. With a lower TDP.
@ModernGeekReview
@ModernGeekReview 4 жыл бұрын
@@t_t4298 All 6 core cpu of today from AMD OR Intel is good enough. But of course more core is better if you have so many device setup. Capture card and other device etc. When you multitask and use your PC as a business you need higher core cpu, more ram , and best GPU possible. RTX 3080 is the minimum!
@kadugyam
@kadugyam 4 жыл бұрын
@@ModernGeekReview i fully agree with you if you use your computer in the way you describe. I am only making the point that the vast majority of computer users will and don’t use the computer in your specific case. Also the video implies that most will use the computer in such extreme multitasking cases - and that’s not true.
@kristofferdizon332
@kristofferdizon332 4 жыл бұрын
So its basically 64gb ram, literally a 3090 , 3990x everything ssd and a 2000w psu for a good experience
@ByteSizeTech
@ByteSizeTech 4 жыл бұрын
It depends
@eberdelahoya2781
@eberdelahoya2781 4 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, when i jumped on from 6 to 8 cores, i didn't feel the difference per se, not on gaming nor on daily usage, the only part where i felt difference and the reason why i bought 8 cores was on rendering times on vray and corona. They were considerably faster and because of that, worth the purchase. In my games i didnt necessarily noticed a much smoother experience tho ( i don't mean FPS)... I believe because i mostly was GPU bounded before my cpu had anything to do with most games. I really really believe that if you are gaming, clock speed is more important to your gaming experience overall... As long as you're not using 4 cores you'll be fine. Add more tasks to it, then dont think about it, just buy an 8 core or + and avoid any possible limitations brought by your cpu.
@joshc7765
@joshc7765 4 жыл бұрын
There are exceptions to the rule as some games are cpu intensive
@Ornal64
@Ornal64 4 жыл бұрын
Upgraded from 16gb to 32gb. Upgraded Ryzen 5 1500x to 3500x and got IPC and core clock improvement. All of that happned in last couple weeks. My PC is gloryfied console and that's what I wanted. I'm very happy with performance but never again I'll go 6 cores 6 threads becouse CPU ussage is in 90% +/- while gaming. I just give away multitasking for gaming performance. 8 cores 16 threads is minimum what I would consider in 2021. And all I do with my PC is gaming on TV. I decided to come back to PC gaming in mid 2017 with R3 1200 and GTX1050Ti - console replacement. I never considered high end PC gaming. I stepped to midrange and I want more. I started to understand benefits from more cores, more ram, faster storage and user experience gains that comes with it. There is no doubt that high end PC is my goal now and for as long as is can afford it I will compete in PCMR 👍 I plan to stream in future and need way more CPU power to even consider it a fact.
@YecrozGaming
@YecrozGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Hey you are right you're CPU is too weak to encode the stream but the gtx 1050ti can encode with NVEC and Will offer good stream quality
@Ornal64
@Ornal64 4 жыл бұрын
@@YecrozGaming 1050Ti is gone long time. I'm using Vega 64 now. GPU avaibility in early 2021 is shocking so I'll propably keep it for some time. Getting frames and graphical settings I want. CPU upgrade is happening first.
@Sam-ko8mt
@Sam-ko8mt 4 жыл бұрын
My prediction before watching: it depends.
@gamingedition5165
@gamingedition5165 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your thoughts on SilverStone ST85F-GS V2 850 Watt 80+ Gold PSU/Power Supply?
@mihapeterca7940
@mihapeterca7940 4 жыл бұрын
These are oe of the best in its class though ... if you need i wouldnt hestitate to pick it up. But they can be expensive
@yoshi4279
@yoshi4279 4 жыл бұрын
So glad i found this channel and watched the crap out of your videos. Got a 10700k for the 8 cores abd 32gb of ram 😁 runs nice and smooth
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 3 жыл бұрын
My last pc had the same specs it's a great experience
@BallazYT
@BallazYT 4 жыл бұрын
" B b b b but there is a benchmark ! "
@kasspoiss4698
@kasspoiss4698 4 жыл бұрын
6:34
@AA-db9cb
@AA-db9cb 4 жыл бұрын
Should you have high RAM on a laptop with an SSD and still use hibernate? It saves the contents of the RAM into the SSD for quick resumes from hibernate, but the bigger the RAM the higher the SSD use. Would a high amount of RAM tear through the SSD quicker?
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 4 жыл бұрын
Want A Smooth Gaming Experience? - What Hardware Do You Need? all of it,... and 1080p monitor tops...
@gameison4813
@gameison4813 4 жыл бұрын
So how about answering the question? What do i need for 1080p/60 AAA and 1080p/144hz esports? I would like to get 8 cores but that would have to be 3700x for now since 5800x cost fortune and is not in stock. Would you get 3700x over 5600x? Does it make any sense?
@mr9oh939
@mr9oh939 4 жыл бұрын
Get the 5600x
@ByteSizeTech
@ByteSizeTech 4 жыл бұрын
You need to watch this time stamp form the live stream - 3:27:44 Don't Side Grade your PC Parts especially your CPU - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ3OgJSepdt3apY plus this time stamp as well - 1:31:44 Best PC for Streaming for 3 years for $1500
@noahburden702
@noahburden702 4 жыл бұрын
Should start doing a benchmark with a twitch stream on a second monitor
@nosee8466
@nosee8466 4 жыл бұрын
would you go for a r9 3900x or a r7 5800x in 2021? need to build a new machine....
@ByteSizeTech
@ByteSizeTech 4 жыл бұрын
Watch this timestamp - 3:27:44 Don't Side Grade your PC Parts especially your CPU from kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ3OgJSepdt3apY What you are suggesting is a huge side grade - don't do that!!!
@nosee8466
@nosee8466 4 жыл бұрын
@@ByteSizeTech Thanks a lot for the advice guys... you are great!
@nosee8466
@nosee8466 4 жыл бұрын
@@ByteSizeTech I meant for a new pc build... anyway... thanks a lot!
@MrZodiac011
@MrZodiac011 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen 14gb+ used on so many games recently with nothing open, and that easily hits 15gb and 16gb and over when stuff is left open, I noticed a decent difference between my 3600 compared to my old 7700k and then noticed a FAR and I mean FAR bigger difference between the 5900X and 3600 than the 3600 and the 7700k. So saying a 12 core is ridiculous is not true, i've seen it hit 50% usage on games which is going to max out a 6 core and be very high on an 8 core, 66% or so. Multimonitor users and multitaskers would want at least an 8 core and 32gb Ram, less works if you're just gaming
@ΣεραφείμΧατζόπουλος
@ΣεραφείμΧατζόπουλος 4 жыл бұрын
Would you prefer an i9 9900k, a Ryzen 7 5800x or an i7 10700k
@eberdelahoya2781
@eberdelahoya2781 4 жыл бұрын
10700k is basically a 9900k. From those I’d honestly choose the 5800x .... however, not too long ago the 9900k was about 300dlls so if that’s still the price I’d jump w/o doubt to the i9 since the 5800x is considerably more expensive and Out of stock most of the time
@bluexeyedxpassion
@bluexeyedxpassion 4 жыл бұрын
I9 9900k, stronger cores.
@83RhalataShera
@83RhalataShera 4 жыл бұрын
Before Zen 3 and core 10th gen all the AMD fanboys always said "i don't care that intel has more fps in games, it has less cores and I do more on my computer", now they all suddenly say that a 6 core is better than an 8 core because of more fps in games.
@freshdiaper427
@freshdiaper427 4 жыл бұрын
Tech Channels do that too. They say "we went with AMD for this build because it was more cores for less money so now we can do more things". Now that 5600x is out they say "we went with the 5600x because of its single core performance, and all you need is 6 cores".
@joemomma707
@joemomma707 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao!! About a million “I don’t care if it’s a few fps” comments before from AMD fangirls! I get whatever is best. I currently have a 1080ti/8700k build. I bought a 3090 ftw3 hybrid and it’s just collecting dust because the 5950x is out of stock. If the 11900k comes out before the 5950x is back in stock, I’ll go with that.
@agontprevarator5214
@agontprevarator5214 4 жыл бұрын
@@joemomma707 This is the second comment i read where you just brag about how you want the best.
@joemomma707
@joemomma707 4 жыл бұрын
@@agontprevarator5214 that’s what I want. The fuckin best. That’s why this video makes me happy. I hate those youtubers that just give you advice on the absolute minimum you can’t get... Anyways, you a lil hater? I make more money than you will ever make. Just stating a fact. I was simply expressing how I felt. People like him help me with my builds. So this is the third comment now? Poor lil fuck.
@agontprevarator5214
@agontprevarator5214 4 жыл бұрын
@@joemomma707 I'm not a hater and it's likely that you make more money than i ever will. I'm just saying you seem to be one of those who are puffed up, obnoxious, full of themselves and can't shut up about how much money they make.
@alexsiniov
@alexsiniov 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have paging file enabled with 32GB RAM, my SSD is always responsive, RAM is enough for multitasking and PC is much more responsive when it does not have to swap in and out SSD data, which must be accessed fast
@deenycest10710
@deenycest10710 4 жыл бұрын
so 64 does nothing for gaming except hit gamers on a budget HARD lol
@ModernGeekReview
@ModernGeekReview 4 жыл бұрын
If you do have total 64gb in all the ram slots , it have improve smooth PC! Not joking and not a lie! For most $270 buck is a lot of money for just ram along!
@Lulomo
@Lulomo 4 жыл бұрын
64 is probably 4 times more than you realistically need
@ModernGeekReview
@ModernGeekReview 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lulomo I have 16gb system and 32gb system. More ram is better ! You could keep as much webpage , watch youtube live chat, play game, download pretty much everything at once with lots of ram. I don't have deep pocket so i have to settle for 32gb and I loving it!
@ugamez0
@ugamez0 4 жыл бұрын
@@ModernGeekReview bUt mY GAmE iS tElLiNg mE tHaT Im oNLy uSinG 12 gB oF mY 16 gB rAm 32 iS uSleSs
@ugamez0
@ugamez0 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lulomo u dont NEED a computer
@Peep18m
@Peep18m 4 жыл бұрын
i built my first pc ever recently. i decided to go with the 10850k. i got it on sale for 399 at the time. like you mentioned it was in stock ready to ship and at a great price. so far id have to say im very happy w my first pc build ever. is a ryzen 9 5900x better yeah. is it that much better that its worth the extra 150 premium no......no its not. i went with an e-gaming mobo and i purchased a fe 3090. im happy with the way my first build turned out. i do have a question though. should i trade out my e-gaming mobo for a maximus xii hero? the bonus for me going intel was i had the possibility to buy 11th gen and put it right in my mobo. i noticed this is the last chip to work in current ryzen mobo. i dont know if i will go to 11th gen or not seeing as its less cores etc. time will tell
@andrevj6644
@andrevj6644 4 жыл бұрын
should you buy ryzen 9 3900x or ryzen 7 5800x for same price.Have b550 motherboard and rtx 2060 super play 1080p 60 but monitor support 120hrz got ryzen 3 3100 fpr bios update to get high end cpu
@grlmgor
@grlmgor 4 жыл бұрын
Don't most B550 have bios flashback, so you don't need a 3100. If your not doing a tone of production work the 5800 is better.
@andrevj6644
@andrevj6644 4 жыл бұрын
@@grlmgor getting ryzen 9 5900x and ryzen 3 3100 was for bios update and is first pc so b450,b470 was bad idea since i had no cpu for bios update. Update might as well save for ryzen 9 5950x instead
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
If playing games andl ight streaming , also opening some background tabs then 5800x else 3900x
@AsianPersuation24x7
@AsianPersuation24x7 4 жыл бұрын
It takes more than a Ryzen 2700 and 32GB of ram... got my first blue screen in a year and PC has shut off on me for the first time (maybe power strip issue) but my PC is constantly at 25% ram usage with no games cause I have music in background and my RPG effects with the music and a single game was apparently too much for both my CPU and ram more so my CPU I saw some bad usage spikes. No RGB effects now and just music and 1 game.
@BenL0nd0n
@BenL0nd0n 4 жыл бұрын
Without even having watched the video, I'm shocked to see a Ryzen 5 in the video thumbnail. Are you sure?? :D
@HollowRick
@HollowRick 4 жыл бұрын
One monitor? Yes
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 3 жыл бұрын
Esport games yes
@BrunoCCoutinho
@BrunoCCoutinho 4 жыл бұрын
I bought 32gb to be on the safe side, but I have two extra slots to upgrade is necessary. I do use linux, but I stream my games to my Ipad. Not sure is 32gb will be enough in the future.
@taylornielsen1048
@taylornielsen1048 4 жыл бұрын
Hey all... looking for some advice here. I’ve got an RTX 2060 right now with a 1440p/60 monitor. I bought the monitor a few years ago when I really didn’t know all that much about computers (still learning lol). So for my current setup with the 2060, should I keep the 1440p monitor or go to 1080p to get higher FPS for future games?
@willjackson9658
@willjackson9658 4 жыл бұрын
1080p high refresh would be more enjoyable than the 1440 60. I used to have a 2060S and it was way better on 1080p 144hz compared to my 1440p 144hz. I upgraded to a 3060Ti but still
@taylornielsen1048
@taylornielsen1048 4 жыл бұрын
@@willjackson9658 thanks for the help! Do you have any monitor recommendations for 1080p? I’m not going too crazy on price but wanna get as much value as I can.
@willjackson9658
@willjackson9658 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylornielsen1048 Good value 1080p monitors that I know of are the AOC C24 and the Viewsonic XG24. I suggest you go on Hardware Unboxed channel because they go into depth with monitors
@taylornielsen1048
@taylornielsen1048 4 жыл бұрын
@@willjackson9658 I’ll do that! I appreciate your input!
@sMv-Afjal
@sMv-Afjal 4 жыл бұрын
6:22 You could do that but It will requires a lot of charts and some automation to benchmark.
@crisadriancruzat5428
@crisadriancruzat5428 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tech & Rogue great video BTW, I just want to ask which one is better r7 5800x and R9 3900x if they are priced the same. I mainly do excel work and just play some games on the weekend. I'm upgrading from r5 2600. Thanks
@eddy45186
@eddy45186 3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have any opinions on laptops just bought a asus rog strix scar 17 with ryzen7 5800 and a rtx3070. You guys have me thinking i should of went for the ryzen9... however the laptop is literally just for gaming. Love the content bww
@BrunoCCoutinho
@BrunoCCoutinho 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I have a computer with a ryzen 5900x an ssd m2 , 32 gb of ram. It is mainly for work, with linux installed (manjaro). To play some games and do some cuda (just test runs) I bought a gtx 1660 ultra. The ideas was not to play games alone in my office, but stream the games to my Ipad and play them while my girlfriend watchs TV. I got the cheap card with the goal of testing this setup. It works great and I'm enjoying the witcher 3 a lot. I like games like rpg's. I play at full ipad resolution 2048×1536, and frame rate is 60 (steam link limitations). I have some old games to play before I play the new stuff, for example think I will wait one or two years before I play cyberpunk. The question is more about value, should I sell my card (I can sell it for almost no loss) and by some rtx this year? or should I wait for the next one or two years?
@newzinski6946
@newzinski6946 4 жыл бұрын
Easily sell and get the RTX 3000 series. At this rate Nvidia will delay 4000 because they can't even produce enough 3000 for the next year or so. Get a 3080 with your 5900X and you'll be set for 4-5 years
@dag1704
@dag1704 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine switching from a 6700k, with a 1060, well cooled system, to a laptop with a I5 8250 and the intel UHD620. Same amount of cores, even faster SSD, than in my tower and it drives me crazy. Selling my Gaming PC was not a good decision, looking at everything. Even Browsing feels like crap, and the CPU has a hard time, doing literally everything. Fun thing is, that even some games run on it, like elite dangerous, on lowest settings and with some stutters now and then, but overall, at least, it runs. Fascinating is, that the amount of strange bugs I encountered, is risen dramatically. With my gaming PC, I could have like 100 things open at the same time. Play a game and have an eye on Discord on the second monitor? No Problem. Playing a game and watch something on Netflix, or KZbin at the same time, no Problem. Right now, I start the PC and directly start a game, forget turn off the second monitor? Giant Problem, all sorts of never before seen bugs start to appear, windows close and open and close repeatedly, the music starts, but no visuals, or I tab out of the game, check discord, tab back in and it does not load the window, directly minimizing it again, forcing me to kill the task by hand. Yeah, what a misery... Grab the Browser and change the window ratio, hell breaks lose, sometimes especially on youtube the comment section does not load, sometimes the video is completely miscropped, sometimes the tabs stays in a weird position at the edge of the screen and the rest gets filled in blank. Mostly the resolution does not at all fit, to what I set in the settings. So much to "I only need it for learning and browsing the web" Yeah, stupid me... Right now, I'm planning to build an above 3000 Bucks gaming PC, even if it would be just for browsing the web and doing basic stuff, it would be waaayyy worth it. (I will also play games again, but that is another story) And you know what? It will be totally worth it. Having a quiet, cool system, instead of a portable, hot screaming machine... totally worth it. Never again. My thought process was: "I need a Laptop for my university. Programming, studying and stuff. I5 8250U is in multicore bench 1/3 slower than my gaming PC and in single core, pretty close to it. This will be fine." Little did I know... Moral of the story kids, never, and I mean never, be cheap. What is better, buying something for 1000 Bucks and regretting it your whole ownership, or spending double the money and be happy, every time you use it? And when you build it yourself, you can even be proud, about what you archived. So yeah, never go the cheap and easy route, it leads only to misery and hatred.
@rockybalboa5611
@rockybalboa5611 4 жыл бұрын
Guys I am not super smart but FPS is oposit value of frame time. Frame time is just calculated value 1000ms/FPS. If your FPS low is under 40FPS or above 25ms than you can smell problem but you can try solve it on 60Hz monitor by doubleing FPS to 120 at some reasonable games with low requirements. If your FPS low is under 25FPS or above 40ms than you should investigate the causes and upgrade your botlenecking HW.
@matthewsmith2385
@matthewsmith2385 4 жыл бұрын
128gb is crackhead energy 😂 64gb is overkill 32gb is high end 16g is entry 8 is budget 4 is hell
@itzamedave6242
@itzamedave6242 4 жыл бұрын
Playing cyberpunk on high 1080p@60fps on I5 10400f/b460m/16gb Ddr4 @2666 /Rx5600xt only 50%cpu 80%gpu and 8gb memory used.
@JL-vt5uo
@JL-vt5uo 4 жыл бұрын
My 2600x and 1060 6gb and 32gb of ram do pretty good on my dual monitor 1080p 60 set up....but I dont play AAA games from the last year or 2. AC odyssey is the newest I llayed and to get it smooth I reduced the resolution from 1080p to 900p. For now its fine. When I upgrade I want to upgrade!
@RyanMah34
@RyanMah34 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say 32gb minimum is needed for a system even if you are just gaming. I dont have any crazy background processes like a NAS or Dropbox syncing in the back. Cold War in game my total system uses around 22GB of RAM and thats in use not cached.
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 4 жыл бұрын
You need to have things in the background for the computer to reach 22gb, not just cold war. But yes I was around 18-22/32 while playing cod ww2 and even got a ram error with 16gb. Some cod games like spiking with their ram usage and then going back down again. It's an unfortunate thing for people that doesn't have 32gb ram.
@AsianPersuation24x7
@AsianPersuation24x7 3 жыл бұрын
finally was able to order my 5900X... its not here yet but i cannot wait! immediately ordered a 64Gb ram kit even tho i already have 32gb and coming from a 2700 non X it should be an awesome experience I'm gonna open up all the tabs and do all the things i want now lol also going to start content creation. can i use 64gb of ram? probably not but I'm going to be very happy for quite some time no fussing or worrying about upgrades for a while!
@jordanwardle11
@jordanwardle11 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who went from 6 to 8 cores, i noticed no difference. And thats while running 2 games on different screens and having 10 firefox tabs open
@shlomomolokandov7270
@shlomomolokandov7270 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i just game, i got a r5 3600 and an rx 480, single monitor, 1080 144, 500gb nvme ssd and im super happy! :D I only have 2 tabs open.
@HollowRick
@HollowRick 4 жыл бұрын
This^ accept i have a 8700k and a gtx 1080 TI
@shlomomolokandov7270
@shlomomolokandov7270 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@josevazquez9112
@josevazquez9112 4 жыл бұрын
That was for those ppl in the back watching 😂
@mikekrebs5598
@mikekrebs5598 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I'm regretting that I missed the December deals for the 9900k in Canada/US, hope they go on sale again soon...
@madmardigan3321
@madmardigan3321 4 жыл бұрын
I have a laptop with an i7 RTX2070 16GB RAM. I've been using it lately with a VR headset. Will upgrading to 32GB give me a noticable smoother experience? Definitely looking at upgrading
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
32gb will be plenty for years to come but before upgrading just see if your ram usage is very close to 16gigs. If yes then go for it
@linchester8464
@linchester8464 4 жыл бұрын
I say it boils down to use cases and how much mulitasking you actually do I do have Chrome with 20-30 odd tabs and running discord, steam, epicgames store in the background. And the occasional photo and video editing. 16GB is still enough for my use case and I am on an Intel 6 cores and 12 tread CPU with a GTX 1060 6GB. It still runs well on the games that I play. Maybe in a few years, will i say i need 32GB RAM but def not 64GB RAM unless I am into heavy video editing or sort of stuffs having more cores gives me more headroom to multitask without slowing down. But at this bad times where everything is out of stock or priced too damn high. I will hold off the upgrade of my PC with 8 cores or more.
@iamLODD
@iamLODD 4 жыл бұрын
Well thank you very much for this comment, i would probably have 1/2 tabs with discord open while gaming and you saying 16gb is enough makes me feel good about my purchase of 32gb. I was worried it might be an issue but I guess im fine :)
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
64gigs of ram is required in professional video rendering and not for gaming. Plus he play games that can he run on 8gigs like world if tanks,warship etc. He is just a guy who can't be called an actual gamer cause he does multitasking while gaming by opening up bazillion chrome tabs and all startup services. He might also have McAfee or Norton shit installed and running in background
@joshtheking1772
@joshtheking1772 4 жыл бұрын
I run a 3900x to play World of Warcraft with an OC'd 5600xt and I'm doing just fine in Oggrimar at 144fps. With my measly 16GB of RAM. M.2 NVME and a SATA 1TB SSD. Im happy.
@Sam-ko8mt
@Sam-ko8mt 4 жыл бұрын
I play on 1080p (3700X and 2060S) and got 32gb RAM. It's awesome, but I mostly don't use half of it tbh. I should note I came from a ps4 and a 2016 laptop with 8gb of ram and no SSD.
@bradbeyers9028
@bradbeyers9028 4 жыл бұрын
Man Ghost recon Wildlands is way better than Breakpoint IMO. I hope they're making a Wildlands 2 because that was a sick game.
@MrZodiac011
@MrZodiac011 4 жыл бұрын
Well who knows, nobody at all seemed to like Wildlands until Breakpoint came out. I haven't played much Breakpoint, but it runs far better and looks better than Wildlands at least. I enjoy them both though, I just had a lot of issues with Wildlands, but it was fun
@silvertechmods9215
@silvertechmods9215 4 жыл бұрын
Point taken... Sell your house... Sell your soul . Give all your money to asus msi gigabyte amd intel etc... Thats it..
@MrZodiac011
@MrZodiac011 4 жыл бұрын
Well he's just saying, if you want a smooth PC, to avoid 99% of the issues you have running games like the frame drops and stutters, you've got the people who complain about it and the people the upgrade their PC. A 4 core CPU won't cut it on most AAA games these days, 8gb of Ram won't either. It's something you have to experience before judging that 32gb and a 12 core can make a difference over a PC with 16gb and a 8 or 6 core
@qwerky123
@qwerky123 4 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded to 32gb last year, do i need 64gb? i play fortnite while twitch, epic launcher in the background.
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't reach 80% ram usage then you don't need to upgrade. This goes for everyone whether you have 16gb or 64gb ram. Only you can load up that task manager and make that decision. Not anyone of us. But most likely, No. You don't need 64gb ram for fortnite. It plays with 4gb ram.
@jorisv207
@jorisv207 4 жыл бұрын
All you need is 16 gb
@forog1
@forog1 4 жыл бұрын
I frequently like to play games on one 1440p monitor and watch videos on my TV from the same PC do to some issues while gaming and using this particular tv i use i second gpu to of load the tv videos to along with discord and a few tabs open for when i need to look up info on the game im playing. It was a world of difference going from 16gb to 32gb of ram debating if i should go 64gb only reason i have not yet is because of prices ATM in these times. That and i don't want any 64gb of ram i want 3600mhz tight timing ram for my 5950x so my taste makes it harder and more expensive.
@xXNunduXx
@xXNunduXx 4 жыл бұрын
2:50 *hand moves further downs*
@yoemaz57
@yoemaz57 4 жыл бұрын
What is he doing to use so much RAM on his normal pc? Like 45-55% while running? I upgraded to 32GB from 16 and it's nice. I did it for streaming but he said he doesn't video edit or do much with it.
@ModernGeekReview
@ModernGeekReview 4 жыл бұрын
active programs running in the background, keep up with live stream. webpage after webpage on , multi monitors, more then one channel all active professional setup etc . that why his system chew up ram like it nothing. Basic online stream use 32gb ram.
@ryanhines293
@ryanhines293 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely depends on expected user experience. For example, I game at 1440p 144hz. I currently have a ryzen 5 1600 af stock paired with 2x16gb ddr4 3200mhz dual channel and a gtx 1080 ti stock on a B450 Tomahawk. It has been working fine for my needs including 1440p Cyberpunk 2077. I mostly game with my machine and do wireless PC VR, the 1440p 27 inch screen is a good balance for picture quality and real estate for productivity for work, which I'll play KZbin videos or spotify in the background and have Discord and facebook messenger up to talk with friends etc. It's been fine for my needs. I did decide to upgrade since I have extra hardware laying around I could build another Ryzen system so decided ill upgrade my CPU and use my 1600 af in another system to sell. I debated between a Ryzen 7 5800x , Ryzen 5 5600x and Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 3700x. And honestly in most of the benchmarks was looking at maybe 8-10 fps more performance on average for games with my resolution so went with a 3700x since I can get more cores and threads for the same price. So ya if I was gaming at 1080p and more competitively and had a 240hz+ monitor, ya id probably be more incline to a Ryzen 5 5600x. But for my needs 3700x seemed the best value for my needs and use case.
@LucasDaRonco
@LucasDaRonco 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree at the same time. Although I understand and agree with the fact that benchmarks won't show the whole picture there are two particular statements I need to make: 1) Not everyone will benefit from a top end CPU/GPU/RAM kit (or even SSD). This is hugely related to the particular use and it should be analyzed as a per case scenario. For example a video editor will benefit from a powerful CPU, lots of ram, a medium end GPU and a very fast SSD, while someone who mostly games will be more than fine with less ram, slower ssd, lower end CPU and a very fast GPU. The speed at which some menus load is not enough of an excuse to purchase higher end hardware. Especially when we are talking about seconds. 2) On my particular case (gaming + working + multitasking) I haven't found a benefit of going from 8 to 12 cores, but I did find a very small benefit from going from 16 to 32gb (64gb would be too much for me). Best upgrade was my GPU. Faster SSDs didn't make any difference at all. So I really think that recommending i9s or ryzen 9 CPUs is not ideal for 99% of the cases out there. To sum up: analyze what you are going to do with your computer and put the $ on the parts that will make that use less cumbersome. Gaming? Get a faster gpu. Rendering? Get a faster CPU + GPU and a fast nvme drive. Multitasking? Get at least 8 cores and an nvme drive. Office use? 6 cores, 16gigs of ram and an ssd (any) will do. You can always upgrade later on. But having tried from i3s to i9s and ryzen 5s to ryzen 9s I have yet to find many use cases where the top end hardware is justified, especially at launch prices. I just bought a 5900X at $340 USD and at that price I feel no guilt at upgrading. Sometimes it's better to purchase high end, last gen stuff at a discount than lower to mid end newer stuff at full price.
@ThorntonWillie
@ThorntonWillie 4 жыл бұрын
i have seen 100 fps skip just because of back ground task running
@antoniocepaj7544
@antoniocepaj7544 4 жыл бұрын
Have you had a chance using Asus ROG STRIX Z490-G GAMING (WI-FI) Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard + Intel Core i9-10900K + 3080/6800XT ? Will it be less fussy system than AMD (similar performance parts) ?
@goldenheartOh
@goldenheartOh 3 жыл бұрын
Another perspective: People just don't finish their sentence when they say "gamers don't need..." Thay are thinking "Gamers don't need more than X for a good experience. " Of course "good" is completely subjective too. Either way of looking at it works.
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 3 жыл бұрын
I upgraded from 16 to 32 to 64 (before judging I sell computers for a living so no money lost)first thing I noticed was that chrome was enabled at startup and it will go to system task tray when ihit close even windows knows 32gb is not enough for that lol, but in all honesty I do 4k video editing and while rendering I use 40+GB with my 5900x and 2080ti so ky advice is get 32 for aaa games if you are doing other stuff 64 is way to go
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
90% people dont need 64 gigs of ram cause 90% of people dont do multitasking while gaming like you
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 4 жыл бұрын
those times when 1GB was overkill,...
@surfx4804
@surfx4804 4 жыл бұрын
It would be good to see this (do I need 64Gb RAM) addressed in a vid, maybe running some things and showing the memory usage (Resource Monitor?). I expect that while games may have the memory they need widows uses a lot of the rest of the ram for various system things like caching and stuff. So with 32Gb and playing a game and watching youtube and having discord running etc.. you could be limiting what windows has left to play with. I think this is all the stuff under "Standby" in RM. Apologies if already done, I may have missed it.
@Penguin-pb8mz
@Penguin-pb8mz 4 жыл бұрын
@ tech deals would you do i9 10900k 10 cores and 20 thred or 11900k 8 and 16 on 11th gen if roomer are correct mini itx build by the way sorry I'm new to pc building!
@Edario
@Edario 4 жыл бұрын
Wait for the review.
@ryank6352
@ryank6352 4 жыл бұрын
I guess I have to update my 2021 hardware update to do list: 32gb to 64gb RX 580 to 6700XT Add 2tb Samsung 980 pro
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
If you do multitasking like him. While gaming open up bazillion chrome tabs running all of the services on startup and play world of warships then go for it otherwise 32gb is plenty for years to come
@Rauls026
@Rauls026 4 жыл бұрын
I need to upgrade from 16 to 32
@Chris-de2qc
@Chris-de2qc 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't is also more cost effective to just close/disable all those programs running in the gaming background?
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-de2qc absolutely yes
@BillR2009
@BillR2009 4 жыл бұрын
This applies and doesn't apply to me because I don't have the motherboard to go 64 GB. But I had 16 GB before Flight Simulator had me go 32 GB. While 16-32 doesn't do that much for FPS most games, Everyday computer use feels dramatically better. It will be years down the line, but when I go 64 GB, it'll be under a new platform
@shlomomolokandov7270
@shlomomolokandov7270 4 жыл бұрын
BUT THE BENCHMARKS!!
@theonlyfaeronarr
@theonlyfaeronarr 4 жыл бұрын
people that own a small 4 cylinder car, it will do 110kmh but a V8 will just be ticking over at that speed. same analogy, always build the biggest you can afford!,
@milanprb
@milanprb 4 жыл бұрын
I think i can agree with that the i9 9900k is better than ryzen 5 5600x overall, but my priorit is gaming so R5 5600X definitly better choice for me.
@hiru92
@hiru92 4 жыл бұрын
10900k he is talking
@milanprb
@milanprb 4 жыл бұрын
@@hiru92 i thanks i didn't realise, i thought he was talking about 9900k
@NikosApla
@NikosApla 4 жыл бұрын
@@hiru92 He was talking about 9900k
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
@@NikosApla he was talking about 9900k . Look at the box he was holding
@NikosApla
@NikosApla 4 жыл бұрын
@@apoconkbm Yes that's what I said
@SkyBluesSteve
@SkyBluesSteve 4 жыл бұрын
What a strange argument. 64gb of RAM is better than 32gb of RAM. A Ryzen 9 3900X is better than a Ryzen 5 3600X. Well yes. Of course.
@Nitroniko1983
@Nitroniko1983 4 жыл бұрын
I say that everything that uses more than eigth threads needs an ssd to play smoother, no hiching.
@Bajablast_scuba_cat
@Bajablast_scuba_cat 2 жыл бұрын
I had 32GB of 3800cl14 neo Z and switched to 64GB of 3600cl14 neo Z and it's noticeably a better experience. 32 was great, but 64 is just better if you can afford it.
@rubenvirtudez47
@rubenvirtudez47 4 жыл бұрын
I want more of this kind of cpu comparison 😭
@dinocorreia1202
@dinocorreia1202 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any "magic" with 3 3300X as well?
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 4 жыл бұрын
magic? You want fast ram for ryzen but it is basically like an i7 7700k. So as long as you don't have 3070 or 3080 then it doesn't matter.
@Bleakysyt
@Bleakysyt 4 жыл бұрын
Got 3200 32gb ballistix new on eBay for £72... 16 to 32 deffo made everything smoother, like I thought 16 was fine but fuck constant %40 + usage. Now it’s at 20% ram runs in sleep so 32 at 20% is way more chill. 72 quid couldn’t be happier. Fuck this mans 64gb ramblings unless you have money to burn and a top of line pc already
@ghjong001
@ghjong001 4 жыл бұрын
I very much wanted a 5900X and can afford it - but I couldn't find one in stock. I ended up with a 5600X because it was available.
@kinloong97
@kinloong97 4 жыл бұрын
Just like you have 1 million on hand and 10 thousand on hand. Your expenses did not exceed 1k, but one day you need a car With 10k, you need loan with bank With 1 million, you don't need loan with bank
@NikosApla
@NikosApla 4 жыл бұрын
??????????????????????????????? What kind of comparison is that?
@kinloong97
@kinloong97 4 жыл бұрын
@@NikosApla People thinking 64GB ram is overkill but it's not. Just like people thinking having tons of saving is overkill but once you need money you can have instant access without 3rd party support.
@NikosApla
@NikosApla 4 жыл бұрын
@@kinloong97 Oh I see, I thought you magically had 1 million on the one hand and 10k on the other. I was thinking of course anyone chooses the million :D
@kinloong97
@kinloong97 4 жыл бұрын
@@NikosApla No problem :D Glad I'm not confusing you, haha
@aaronprimus1300
@aaronprimus1300 4 жыл бұрын
Except not everyone would be able to save up that 1mill So some ppl would either have to buy a car for under 10k or save up to buy a less expensive car, or even that specific expensive car. Everyone has their own spending capabilities and should work within that range to get the best hardware they can and upgrade it as time goes by.
@NiqueSir
@NiqueSir 4 жыл бұрын
Brah, just recently watched one of your videos, saying 32gb ram is the must for new build, everything will be smooth and fast for gaming.... Now you says 64gb 😂 I grabbed the 32gb ram, I only play games/ internet browse and I always have around 18gb unused, 6gb allocated and use about 8gb on average 😂
@IrelandVonVicious
@IrelandVonVicious 4 жыл бұрын
You did it right. The 64 is for the multiple monitor, multitasking.
@NiqueSir
@NiqueSir 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah true, now all I need is a decent gpu to match my system, could be monthes though 😑
@jorisv207
@jorisv207 4 жыл бұрын
Yep this guy is a scammer
@IrelandVonVicious
@IrelandVonVicious 4 жыл бұрын
@@jorisv207 I'd say he has the best advice of any tech channel by a mile.
@jorisv207
@jorisv207 4 жыл бұрын
IrelandVonVicious he scams people by saying normal gamers need 32gb ram when they only need 16
@BatSoup67
@BatSoup67 4 жыл бұрын
How do you use 64gb of RAM?? I never use more than 10gb other than in video editing.
@apoconkbm
@apoconkbm 4 жыл бұрын
Cause while playing games he opens a bazillion chrome tabs and has probably enable all the startup services
@H0don
@H0don 4 жыл бұрын
Can you listen him? He's not utilizing roughly 64 gigs of RAM, he does around 30 gigs. Having opened tons of browser tab is the way ppl use the PC comfortable, all sync services that I personally don't use, he's using and looks like he needs this amount of RAM, I do believe. I'd listen all the ppl who use PCs in the same way as Tech.
@CrazyNutDenmark
@CrazyNutDenmark 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there from Denmark... Old system: AMD FX-8150 Black Edition with 2x8 GB ram on a ASUS Sabertooth v2.0 motherboard and Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB ssd (C drive)... New system: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X (In stock) with 2x32 GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo 3200 MHz (In stock in a week) on a ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) and Samsung PM9A1 SSD PCIe NVMe M.2 1 TB (C drive) and ASUS ROG Strix 650G power supply and a Corsair Hydro H115i RGB Platinum CPU cooler (In stock)... Will use my old graphics card for some time, because i have to collect a new stash of money for the next upgrade... AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and 5950 are out of stock for several months here and this is what i came up with...
@r6zoar441
@r6zoar441 4 жыл бұрын
Know when ddr5 is coming out? Maybe next vid
@ByteSizeTech
@ByteSizeTech 4 жыл бұрын
We have covered this extensively on Tech News Network ! GO watch the playlist - bit.ly/35jjN5T
@declan6965
@declan6965 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 3600x because it’s all I need for my games
@av821
@av821 4 жыл бұрын
Si tengo 3700x vale la pena cambia a 5900x?
@JesusF7
@JesusF7 4 жыл бұрын
No, sigue usando tu 3700x hasta que te haga falta uno nuevo. A menos que te sobre el dinero jajaja
@jimmayorga1863
@jimmayorga1863 4 жыл бұрын
Es bonito, pero es innecesario.
@Ruby_Mochii
@Ruby_Mochii 4 жыл бұрын
If you already have a 9900k you don't need a 5600x, they are more or less the same performance. Personally I'd want more cores, the 5900x, I prefer a technology that's moving forward. I have a budget system at this point but 2 years ago was midrange. I've always wondered why people used to use the 3900x compared to the 3950x or 3700x, I guess it's the price and balance.
@williamregal8503
@williamregal8503 4 жыл бұрын
I love playing world of warships on my 3900x to its amazing :)
@ModernGeekReview
@ModernGeekReview 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes did ram price just increased in 2021? 16 ram is hovering around $99! Guessing Manufacturing companies do listen! Anything that actual make your PC better they raise the price!
@owo10k29
@owo10k29 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need 64gb of ram. You can chill with 32gb of ram for another 3 years at least. You can even chill with 16 for now. ONLY IF YOU ARE A GAMER!!!!
@darkkingastos4369
@darkkingastos4369 4 жыл бұрын
Wow there's a difference between want and need people want faster load times and frame rates. You only really need faster faster faster if you are having a bad experience. I myself am happy at 30 fps console speeds as long as it is a fun game. Note if you paid money for division 2 then how do you have enough brain cells to build computers?
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