Is Resolve's New AI Noise Reduction All Hype?

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Waqas Qazi

Waqas Qazi

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Can Resolve's AI-based NR dethrone my fav NR plugin?
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This video compares different noise reduction techniques, focusing on DaVinci Resolve 19's new AI-based Ultra NR, traditional noise reduction methods, and my fav third-party plugin. This is the ultimate showdown.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Introduction and teaser
00:57 - Overview of test footage
01:31 - Introduction to Resolve's Ultra NR
02:24 - Testing Ultra NR on first clip
05:28 - Testing Ultra NR on second, more challenging clip
07:27 - Comparison with traditional noise reduction in Resolve
10:03 - Introduction and testing my fav NR plugin
12:04 - Advanced technique: Regaining sharpness after noise reduction
13:19 - Adding film grain for final touch
14:36 - Final comparisons and performance analysis
15:29 - Conclusion and call to action
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@action-grandpa
@action-grandpa Ай бұрын
Don't want to come across as a fanboy, but 5 minutes with Qazi is most often better than five hours of research and experimentation on my own :)
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
My man. ✊🏽
@JPrinceoper8r
@JPrinceoper8r Ай бұрын
I agree!!!
@Awthentik
@Awthentik Ай бұрын
Truth
@initialfocus
@initialfocus Ай бұрын
damnnnn you cleaned that up nice! For anyone curious the specs of each shot. Both were the DJI Ronin 4D-8K sensor. First clip used DJI's 17-28mm lens at I believe 6400 ISO during a low light test clip Shot in ProRes RAW. Second clip was the SIRUI 35mm Anamorphic. ProRes HQ as well and I honestly forget the ISO but definitely high. I very much poorly lit that scene and you saved it 🙌🏻
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Yeah dude it's insane. Thanks for hooking it up bro. ♥️
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik Ай бұрын
That pre-intro footage is crispy. 🔥
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Haha. Ty bro. ❤
@ThanakritGu
@ThanakritGu Ай бұрын
Love the updates Qazi!
@happylukman
@happylukman Ай бұрын
Love this video man!!! Can’t wait for the next one
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Ty. Next one will be out on Monday. 💪🏽
@armando.visuals
@armando.visuals Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! Exactly what I needed.
@jdavevisuals
@jdavevisuals Ай бұрын
Really really useful! Thanks Qazi
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@arthurwoo
@arthurwoo 28 күн бұрын
Another winning vid. Always providing value!
@theqazman
@theqazman 28 күн бұрын
Ayyyy! Long time bro. Hope you're well. Ty for the love.
@personaldronerepair6141
@personaldronerepair6141 Ай бұрын
Like Button Smashed! Keep 'Em Coming!!
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Another one drops soon.
@JoseSpenaN
@JoseSpenaN Ай бұрын
One of the best reviews Yet. Putting on the side of tech and also the side of been fast get it done. Thank you QazMan :)
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Ty bro. Happy to help.
@marietafarfarova
@marietafarfarova Ай бұрын
Ooh, I need to set up the performance of my Neat the way you have - that's such a helpful tip! And I agree completely with your opinion, Qazi. Neat is still my lifesaver whenever I have issues with heavy noise regardless it is such an old plugin. It stills works like a charm!
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Thank you and it's unbelievable after so many years later nothing comes close.
@PopoRamos
@PopoRamos Ай бұрын
big fan of neat video, been using it for about 7 years, back when using it added HOURS of render time lol.
@defflounge
@defflounge Ай бұрын
It the best Qazi, a great teacher a great colorist, way to go sir
@8KHDRVideoBySittipong
@8KHDRVideoBySittipong Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@michelangelotorres_filmmaker
@michelangelotorres_filmmaker Ай бұрын
At the end of the day, Blackmagic would have been better off buying Neat Video and incorporating it into DVR 😁
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Funny, I always thought that.
@mishukx
@mishukx Ай бұрын
You are a Magic Man! Just Unreal!! Superb!!!
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Ty bro. Always appreciate your support.
@davewroberts
@davewroberts Ай бұрын
Neat is great! It saved my butt many times!
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Same
@rodprod8522
@rodprod8522 Ай бұрын
Soooo useful! thanks for sharing! Comparing the rendering frame rates was a lovely touch because we can all crank NR to max but who wants it to take multiple hours (or even days) to render!
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Appreciate the love and exactly.
@Giovanni-Giorgio
@Giovanni-Giorgio Ай бұрын
I remember my pc having mental breakdowns using Neat video in AE back in the days. Resolve is the way for me.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Agreed
@FrancescoDallOlmo
@FrancescoDallOlmo Ай бұрын
Been using neat video for my timelapses. It’s just insane how it outperforms any other NR software
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
💯
@antonkarpov7282
@antonkarpov7282 12 күн бұрын
Also big thanks to you work. My skill was starting growing faster after your tutorials even consider that English not my native language. So far it's my top one channel to learn color grading!
@theqazman
@theqazman 11 күн бұрын
🙏🏽🤗
@Awthentik
@Awthentik Ай бұрын
Great video. I’m gonna dig more through your videos but I love how you have your window customized to show frames and how you went full screen but could still see the inspector. Curious if you have a video about how you do your setup in Davinci. About to look now, but great video per usual
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
I have pro work walk-through videos coming soon. Those are gonna be super long taking it through every single thing that I do and I’m working on professional gigs so stay tuned for that.
@Awthentik
@Awthentik Ай бұрын
@@theqazman awesome! Appreciate you 💯
@Nebertk
@Nebertk Ай бұрын
Nothing beats neat video....
@ashokdhar7216
@ashokdhar7216 Ай бұрын
Nice bro..!❤
@VladislavNovickij
@VladislavNovickij Ай бұрын
Yep ✊ I always use Neat Video for more complicated shots its amazing but usually standard classic Resolves NR way is more than enough no AI needed 👌
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Agreed
@ColeManning-zf8bf
@ColeManning-zf8bf Ай бұрын
Jesus the talking head setup is look crazy amazing. Colors popping everywhere
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Haha. Ty bro.
@boldbearStudios
@boldbearStudios Ай бұрын
I started using Neat Image for photos around 2003 and Neat Video in 2007 within the Adobe suite. But somehow I forgot to bring it into my Resolve workflow. 😮 Thank you for reminding me that this is still the best tool for noise reduction even today! 🤩
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
It happens and happy to help bro.
@rickdeckard2240
@rickdeckard2240 Ай бұрын
I use neat NR for 2-3 years and it saved hundreds of tv shows and music videos, even in interlaced mode. It only bugs in 2 situations quite dramatically : on speed modified clips (for which I use renders in place first without NR) and deinterlaced footage (interlaced footage in progressive timeline) for which I must or denoise as interlaced first and then put on progressive timeline, or deinterlace all my i footage via the media management and then work with the new p medias. But this plugin does miracles, absolutely. And its price really is affordable now.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insights bro. ♥️
@rickdeckard2240
@rickdeckard2240 29 күн бұрын
@@theqazman thanks to you for your great work and ideas
@lucasallegretto
@lucasallegretto Ай бұрын
cool!
@surajkafle2028
@surajkafle2028 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤love this one❤can u explain post and preclip on color page..thank you❤
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Will do
@antonkarpov7282
@antonkarpov7282 12 күн бұрын
I have great results with this new tool and surprised that it don't work wery vell in second footage or maybe you have to bring exposure up to help AI better do his job. I use in kombinator mode when you separate your image to RGB because noise strength can be different in red and green color channel. Then I clean luma if it very noisy especially footage from smartphone.
@jonathangolgota
@jonathangolgota Ай бұрын
a few a week ago i using using neat video, clean 45 min 4k after look some video test on youtube , render in 1 day with my pc build, but thje result is amazing
@cristouk
@cristouk Ай бұрын
Yes, Neat Video is the best, despite looking like a "consumer" app. One of the best things is the optmiser, which tests all possible cominations of the CPU and GPU to find the best setting. I work in VFX and a lot of big VFX houses have it - that should say something... And to add, I bought mine over 6 years ago and I still get free updates (Adobe take note ...)
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
I second that bro. Every post house I worked at they had Neat.
@johnsaxz
@johnsaxz Ай бұрын
I feel lowkey for the second shot you should have tried moving the square stuff round a bit to see if it makes a difference.
@TommySidorski
@TommySidorski 26 күн бұрын
I'm not too concerned about the performance problem of NR, that's to be expected and why you should do it only to clips that absolutely need it. If it just has a slight amount of noise that you want to get rid of and still have somewhat good performance, then you can use the standard one. Either way, just turn turn on color cache>user and cache the NR node; but put the NR node in the the very beginning of your node tree so everything done after it will have good playback performance.
@OCAIOF
@OCAIOF Ай бұрын
"4 frames, not horrible". This one got me 😂
@V-adventurous
@V-adventurous Ай бұрын
Nice
@Endimione17
@Endimione17 Ай бұрын
good advice to kill luma reduction; that's the same I do. AI NR is essentially a softening tool and sometimes it warps the motion too, in very dynamic shots; so it means to fight a little bit in some clips with Temporal NR
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Agreed
@neocaron87
@neocaron87 Ай бұрын
With digital camera's I like to get the cleanest image possible and add my own type of grain afterwards dialing it exactly to where I want depending on the project. So for me this tool is going to be amazing :D Edit: Watched the full video well maybe not... TBH currently the best noise reduction is Topaz AI VIDEO, the latest version is insanely good.
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik Ай бұрын
Topaz Video AI's performance is terrible inside of Resolve currently.
@neocaron87
@neocaron87 Ай бұрын
@@mrshaheedmalik Performance is horrendous in Resolve for sure, and I don't use it inside resolve, but for edited clips it works super well and is worth the back and forth.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
It's good but not as optimized.
@Wh1teland
@Wh1teland Ай бұрын
Luckily I hardly ever need NR since I'm also filming myself and making sure everything is lit and exposed the right way. Great video tho!
@ChusmaChusme
@ChusmaChusme Ай бұрын
12:50 I do gotta ask. Why choose Use GPU Only instead of choosing Use CPU and GPU? It does seem useful if your CPU has some extra resources it share to help apply NR.
@peterkapas3514
@peterkapas3514 Ай бұрын
Qazi, thanks for this comparison. Well done. I use Neat Video within DaVinci Resolve, but I keep running into stuttering issues if the video has any sort of speed ramping. How do you deal with that issue? I reached out to Neat Video and its apparently its a known issue within DaVinci, so I still have to rely on the built in Traditional NR for speed ramped footage.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Haven't experienced anything like that but I'll definitely look into it.
@Magmafire
@Magmafire Ай бұрын
Neat Video should sponsor you lol
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Haha. I should reach out.
@oscarmunoz6957
@oscarmunoz6957 Ай бұрын
Mother of f*ks. That third party's plugin is INSANE. Thanks alot!
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
You're welcome
@yochintohere
@yochintohere Ай бұрын
What will happen if you give the Ultra NR same area to sample as Neat video detected as best area. I would really want to see that please.
@christoffer886
@christoffer886 Ай бұрын
Been using and recommending Neat Video since its release. Always to deaf ears. It boggles my mind that it's so overlooked. On top of that, if you own a specific camera, you can just do grey scale template shots of all ISO levels on that camera and prep noise templates for neat video so that the only thing you need to know about your shot is what ISO level it has and boom, remove the noise with next to no tweaking needed. Adding some film emulation grain on top of everything after grading and other stuff is done will help cover whatever banding issues that can occur depending on the codec it was shot in. Using a Komodo with the focal reducer and a CN-E lens at T1.2 shooting night scenes in ISO3200 with NeatVideo and grade applied basically makes it better than the Sony A7 as that camera is basically doing in-camera NR that's less accurate. This is why people testing cameras and producing "test videos" basically trick people into believing something has more quality than it has because the internal processing of such cameras trick people into thinking it looks better than what the capabilities actually are. Actual RAW, high quality footage with NeatVideo blows most off the shelf cameras away.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Agreed on everything ♥️💪🏽
@DigitalCreations2012
@DigitalCreations2012 Ай бұрын
I've used Neat for almost 8 years in Edius
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Great choice.
@tomburden
@tomburden Ай бұрын
I would love to see this compared with topaz video AI.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Will do
@LeeHarris
@LeeHarris Ай бұрын
I just tried to use AI NR on a 12 minute short film. After 3 hours it had only rendered 5% for a 1920x1080 output. I cancelled that crap and went back to normal NR; it was done in less than an hour.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Yep. It's pretty bad as of now.
@incaroads001
@incaroads001 Ай бұрын
Sorry. But when you say, "now if I make it full screen", how did you put your screen into that particular mode? Crtl+F just fills the screen with no inspector. Thanks.
@meyerdigitalfilm
@meyerdigitalfilm Ай бұрын
One question to the professionals do we need to clean noise up or is there an occasion where we can leave it alone? I didn’t do much NR yeat except I had very terrible client low light footage in that case I throw it thru
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Best to use on underexposed footage. It isn't necessary if stuff is exposed well.
@koushikbhattacharya832
@koushikbhattacharya832 Ай бұрын
qazi thanx for making this tutorial...there is no download option to get these footage....I subscribed all ur Chanel for last 5 years...plz help me
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Practice footage in the description.
@koushikbhattacharya832
@koushikbhattacharya832 Ай бұрын
@@theqazman whenever i try to download this practice image every time downloads the previous video practice image
@PTFWWDB
@PTFWWDB Ай бұрын
dang I paid for Topaz, is it comparable to Neat?
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
It's good but not as optimized as Neat.
@jax8964
@jax8964 Ай бұрын
Plz try topaz video AI enhance for noise reduction and sharpening for better results and make a comparison video dude plz....!
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Will do
@AbrazoProductions
@AbrazoProductions Ай бұрын
I have tried it on different video recordings of music concerts in different light conditions. I always went back to Neat 🙂 I have also tried it in Photoshop and again Neat is winning.
@topazlabs
@topazlabs Ай бұрын
@@theqazman We would love to hook you up with the latest version and see what you think !
@aricloudstudio8544
@aricloudstudio8544 Ай бұрын
Why is there banding happening after you applied neat video plugin?
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
KZbin compression.
@joshrathbun1
@joshrathbun1 Ай бұрын
and just like that, I bought Neat video plugin, thank you for spending my money
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Should've reached out to them for sponsorship. 🤔
@PTFWWDB
@PTFWWDB Ай бұрын
I've spent my adult life trying to remove h264 artifacts and noise , I never understood why there were Grain and Film Grain features in software lol like "why would you want to add grain" .. but you say it adds volume, interesting, can you articulate that more?
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Will do
@mariuswickli3206
@mariuswickli3206 Ай бұрын
H264 artifacts and digital, colorful noise make an image look digital/amateurish/unnatural. Film grain (only black and white noise) originates from the production with analog film (-rolls) 🎥. As we consume a lot of cinematic content (like movies) that have film grain, we typically associate grain with beeing cinematic. This of course influenced by the type of content you consume (Marvel Avengers do not really have this esthetic for example but Dune and Openheimer do). It's like digital and analog audio. The analog sounds does typically sound more "natural". At the end of the day it's preference but You should also consider your client. Some Local businesses might not understand the look of grain and sees it as a mistake but a client like Porsche that produces a global cinematic campaign would totally understand.
@PTFWWDB
@PTFWWDB Ай бұрын
@@mariuswickli3206 makes total sense, I appreciate that. Analog audio does sound more pro to me haha.
@joshuakellerman4104
@joshuakellerman4104 Ай бұрын
You can't beat Neatvideo.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
Yep
@user-nq4bv9pr2g
@user-nq4bv9pr2g Ай бұрын
?, link is weard
@lilvartdesign
@lilvartdesign Ай бұрын
WinX video converter came out with a new WinX AI version with a new gen AI video enhancer. I found it very useful. First I run the raw footage thru it, than polish it with the resolve noise reduction. I separate the luma and chroma and I push up the spacial NR high 😁 So the naugty little bugs at least stop moving. The thing I didn't find solution for is the light green pixels that remains back and I can't kill them. 🤔 may if you wouldn't mind to talk about them if you know what about I talk 😁. Anyway I can reccomend the WinX AI for upscaling the footage too, I just did a 800x800 to 1600x1600 and that turn out pretty good, so I will put it into my film.😅
@IamS.S.I
@IamS.S.I Ай бұрын
👍👍
@TomislavRupic
@TomislavRupic Ай бұрын
You probably should have played more with Neat Video settings since it introduced some really ugly bending on her leg and walls...
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
I don’t see any bending on my end or I should’ve played more with it so that’s just given make sure that your quality is set to 4K and if you still see banding it’s probably either the device you’re watching it on KZbin compression
@TomislavRupic
@TomislavRupic Ай бұрын
@@theqazman I am talking about 16:04, shot is pretty much ruined...
@Docfly62
@Docfly62 Ай бұрын
You should manually set DR NR to use the same "flat area" that Neat "found" to see if that would improve DR's results. Also I'm sure many are aware that the 3rd party options for any given app are usually better than it's built in function......Its just that they are always so dang expensive lol
@pixelsimage
@pixelsimage Ай бұрын
It's these examples that kinda prove AI in these vendor apps is just a catch phrase. There is no real AI in play, just some tweaked decision logic that then has to repeat frame by frame.
@theqazman
@theqazman Ай бұрын
I have to agree
@dogusozel7360
@dogusozel7360 26 күн бұрын
It's so sad that people are still confusing AI with machine learning.... Davinci Uses a neural engine which is a machine learning algorithym. But you guys keep saing "AI" is so dull... Please learn the difference. AI = Artificial Intelligence . There is nothing AI about this tool. It's just a better way to manage the database and use new algoryhms that's all.
@theqazman
@theqazman 26 күн бұрын
I literally read the description from their user guide. So next time you're getting your keyboard ninja fingers ready do some research or better yet the video with your eyes open.
@johnsaxz
@johnsaxz Ай бұрын
POV you watched the hook in 144p🥲🥲😂😂
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