War Dawn | Transformers: Generation 1 | Season 2 | E43 | Hasbro Pulse

[@BryonYoungblood]

16:44 - “I was wrong, my friends. I admired Megatron merely because he was powerful. I failed to see _HOW_ he used that power.” - Such a great line from Optimus and a powerful lesson he learned after Megatron almost killed him when he was Orion Pax.

[@cupidkissez]

It’s such a silly little thing but the scene where starscream is fixing skywarp’s wing is so nice. I don’t think the seekers ever really interact positively with each other in most episodes

[@ronkali5365]

The thing is there are so many seekers that never got named.Purple , Green,Turquoise,etc, name a color seekers don't have. I even saw a brown and white seeker in an episode

[@TFfangeek]

@@ronkali5365 I have not seen a G1 Seeker that has rose pink as a primary color. lol

[@leonidbaishev2221]

@@ronkali5365 looks like they weren't strong enough for the Decepticons

[@clownplayer7265]

There's some headcanons about the seekers being technically speaking a race among the Decepticons themselves. I think in IDW this was used with the "cold construction" as a manner to explain sparks were assigned to build in series flying transformers. As such, sometimes seekers often see each other as brothers or fellows to an extend.

[@cupidkissez]

@@clownplayer7265 Oh yeah it’s interesting what canon and fans have both done in more recent years to explain how seekers operate within their own social/familial circles and why they’re always in groups, etc. Which makes it really funny to look back at g1 and see how they do not give af about each other 90% of the time lol 😆. I guess that’s why the scene I mentioned in the original comment caught me a little off guard. Usually starscream, skywarp and thundercracker have no problems with antagonizing/hurting each other (or throwing each other out of space ships lol). It’s just a nice little moment :]

[@Davethe3rd]

Moral of the Episode: Just because somebody has a strange or unique power (or at least seems to), doesn't necessarily mean they're a good person...

[@Robi2009]

_cough_ Omni Man _cough_

[@patrickwozniak3367]

True man

[@LockeLynx]

Doomguy/Slayer.

[@nigelmurphy6761]

That's so true in real life as well.

[@MLIrons]

And knowing is half the battle. Wait! Wrong show.

[@foxfireinferno197]

Rob Paulsen did a GREAT job putting anguish and anger in Slingshot's voice when he's shouting at the retreating Decepticons.

[@girlgarde]

Yeah, Slingshot was REALLY enraged at Megatron as he actually admired him and the Decepticons only to learn how brutal they truly were. Having emotional ties with Orion Pax and his friends of course is what led to him and the other Aerialbots fully committing themselves to the Autobot cause.

[@msm1876]

@@girlgarde Pretty damn good writing for a half hour toy commercial!

[@thomassalas5191]

His name is Robert Paulson!

[@WittyUsernamehere]

Agreed. I would also add that he did an excellent job of putting sadness and anger in Slingshot's voice when he and Silverbolt are carrying the deactivated body of Orion hoping to have him repaired and brought back to life.

[@Slyarno2795]

He also voice Carl Wheezer in Jimmy Neutron and did voice in Gi joe and other known voice over works.

[@jeremytung1632]

I always liked how the “golden age of cybertron” was taken literally, with the whole planet having a golden hue.

[@DWOMT]

Looks like the golden goose from that Ducktales episode spread its gold all over Cybertron.

[@Omzfan.com0798]

bro optmus prime has bult his friends from the past

[@MGower4465]

"It all began about 9 million years ago." "Oh great. Its going to be one of those LONG stories". Be careful what you ask for, Ratchet.

[@IamWone]

For our sins we deserve eternity in hell, but God loves us so much he came as Jesus to pay the price of our sins through living a perfect life for us, his death and his resurrection so we can be forgiven and receive eternal life if we follow and obey him in faith FOR LIFE , Jesus loves u and desires to have a personal relationship with you of love, peace, redemption and obedience ✝️ May Jesus bless you, repent of your sins and turn to Christ before it's too late 🙏🏿❤️❤❤❤

[@kiryugaming7523]

​@@IamWoneHuh?

[@DONG-502]

@@IamWone Satan is the true God

[@moonqueen2k184]

Love that line from rachet

[@IamWone]

@@moonqueen2k184 For our sins we deserve eternity in hell, but God loves us so much he came as Jesus to pay the price of our sins through living a perfect life for us, his death and his resurrection so we can be forgiven and receive eternal life if we follow and obey him in faith FOR LIFE , Jesus loves u and desires to have a personal relationship with you of love, peace, redemption and obedience ✝️ May Jesus bless you, repent of your sins and turn to Christ before it's too late 🙏🏿❤️

[@roadkillz78]

Hands down, one of my favorite episodes. It has great character development and growth for the Aerialbots and it explores the history of the franchise (which always left me wanting for more about the history of Cybertron...but was barely explored, unfortunately). People may scoff at shows produced to be "episodic commercials" in order to sell toys, but when some of these writers come up with episodes like this, that are better than modern-day cartoons' shows as a whole, well, one may understand the nostalgia old fans, like me, feel for this show as opposed to the stuff that comes out nowadays.

[@lovenlightman]

The,Transformers in my opinion was,way a head of its time. The ability of a robot to transform , the great voices of prime and star scream, great scripts .The only thing that came close to it in my opinion was He Man. A more complex series ,maybe the best ever created was the Xmen of the 90s.

[@shenglongisback4688]

Totally right.. man have you seen inhumanoids now thats a trip

[@Diaboragon]

You're well within your right to be nostalgic for the 80's cartoons, but it's very clear you haven't been paying attention to the quality that modern cartoons are putting out. Character driven, continuous narratives are by far the most popular form of children's cartoons right now that regularly tackles backstory, world building, and character exploration.

[@roadkillz78]

@@Diaboragon It depends on what cartoons you are speaking about. Some modern toons are pretty entertaining, others are garbage. But let's not get mixed up between cartoons for adults and toons for kids (if that is what you are speaking about. As a kid, the 80's toons were of great quality, most toons for kids these days are simply mindless drivel.

[@Diaboragon]

@@roadkillz78 No, we are absolutely not mixing up cartoons for adults and kids. Shows like Owl House, Infinity Train, Amphibia, Adventure Time and Gravity Falls are all for kids, they just have storytelling that can entertain adults as well. Just because you want to divide them up to prove some point doesn't make them any less dedicated towards children. I'm sorry you're so threatened by the idea of today's kids having equally quality entertainment as you did, but actually just get over it.

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

The looks on the faces of the Aerialbots when they saw that Orion Pax the young Autobot they became friends with would be destined to become Optimus Prime and that they had a hand in it by bringing him to the same Bot that helped build them a much younger Alpha Trion.

[@RemixOfTheVoid]

I can only imagine that they would brag about that for the rest of time lol.

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

​@@RemixOfTheVoidMan you can consider it ironic that Optimus and the others had a hand in building the AerialBots and Megatron sends them into the past where they end up on Cybertron during it's golden age and meet an innocent dock worker bot named Orion Pax who after had a near fatal encounter with Megatron causing the AerialBots to save him and his girlfriend Ariel and his best friend Dio to be brought to a young Alpha Trion to be rebuilt into Elita 1,possibly either Ultra Magnus or IronHide and Cybertron's greatest hero Optimus Prime so what Megatron did by creating that time machine of his as I mentioned in a previous comment nearly created a temporal paradox by sending the AerialBots into the past to fulfill they're destiny.

[@RemixOfTheVoid]

@nicholasmorsovillo2752 Beast Wars made it crazier, cause the Aerialbots couldn't have existed if the other bots had been wiped out in the past, and if they didn't exist, neither would Optimus Prime.

[@AutoRevLife]

​@@RemixOfTheVoidso if Optimus had been destroyed in beast wars, Orion would have been destroyed here

[@RemixOfTheVoid]

@@AutoRevLife Precisely

[@tridentsilver766]

I still like the theory that Dion was rebuilt into Ultra Magnus, which explains Optimus and Magnus’s relationship.

[@Longinusprime1320]

OH THAT MAKES SENSE Optimus and Magnus were old friends so that’s very possible

[@tridentsilver766]

@@Longinusprime1320 it has also be stated that Optimus and Ultra Magnus are brothers and while here they wouldn’t be brothers like Sideswipe and Sunstreaker, they would still be close enough to be considered brothers

[@c.glazercrush3994]

Based on the timeline some of those drone types were probably rebuilt as the seekers like star scream and them.others were put away. Maybe in that detention center wonder what was of shockwave maybe his spot was held by obsidian.

[@chrisedwards3214]

@@c.glazercrush3994 there was lots of tfs that looked alike in the beginning of Megatron's war he seemed to prefer drones or recruit through his robo smasher Seems like meg's, soundwave and shockwave was the first recruits meg's had or they was in all created together which explains why meg's and shockwave and soundwave is so close Meg's said starscream joined the decepticons

[@chrisedwards3214]

@@tridentsilver766 Dion was a character that was written to be killed Lots of transformers was written just to be killed since they wasn't given the green light to kill a major character but someone had to go Believe war dawn was giving is hints at the movie every autobot in this episode died in the movie Screamer died, meg's, thindercracker and skywarp wass rebuilt

[@WickedAndWhacked]

Hands down one of the best G1 episodes. What made it great for me was not just the origin story of Optimus Prime but the fact that apart from the Aerialbots and Omega Supreme all the characters in the present (1985) were the original characters from the pilot. It almost felt like an early Season 1 episode late into Season 2. And the fact that it took place on Cybertron made it all that more awesome. The only regrettable aspect is that John Stephenson did not voice Thundercracker for that one short line he had. Especially since we hardly have any dailogue at all from Thundercracker in later episodes.

[@TF80s]

I've seen this ep countless times and I only just noticed that about Thundercracker for the first time..l had just watched the scene before l read your comment and wondered if it was a different voice actor or if he just delivered that line differently for some reason.

[@WickedAndWhacked]

@@TF80s in that episode Thundercracker was voice by Walker Edmiston (the same guy who did the voice for Inferno)

[@chrisedwards3214]

What shocked me was that in season three prime, Ironhide, ratchet and wheeljack would be dead so.wpuld screamer Megatron, thindercracker and skywarp would be remodeled into you know who

[@chrisedwards3214]

@@WickedAndWhacked wally burr did it according to tf wiki

[@swordkingx4874]

Only thing better than the Aerialbots realizing that they are the ones who bring Optimus to life by saving Orion, but Optimus face when he realizes they saved him.

[@BryonYoungblood]

You even hear it too in Optimus' voice when he goes "You!" after Silverbolt calls him Orion Pax. :) Just the shock and realization how the Aerialbots saved him when he was young.

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

Actually they cause a time paradox which alternated the origin of optimus prime

[@gabrielivan2538]

This was not meant to happen they changed the timeline someone else saved those 3 after Megatron shoot them.

[@bordeaux8791]

One of the most important pieces of media in Transformers history.

[@jgvillan01]

Yes, this episode is about the origin of Optimus Prime, but I like how this also highlighted Ratchet of being an 'ol grumpy doc bot. 😂

[@ArcticPrice]

Well I mean look at animated and prime ratchet

[@Jayteaseepiirturi]

Ratchet has never had the best bedside manner, has he? But in some ways his behavior here owns up to his character profile.

[@Laylavizible]

@@ArcticPricemeanwhile bayverse during their arrival ratchet wants ironhide to terminate Sam’s parents

[@DS-tv2fi]

“A warrior doesn’t need a head, just a good, strong body.” Megatron, 1985

[@jvbutalid8316]

The Aerialbots got a front-row seat at seeing the birth of a legend.

[@iagoluiz8467]

And apparently became a bit responsible for it, if I am right. They might have committed a temporal paradox.

[@jvbutalid8316]

@@iagoluiz8467 they brought Orion to a3 (alpha trion) so yah

[@minicle426]

Out of all the Combiner Teams, the Aerialbots always came across as having the most focus and development for me. You can see a distinct dynamic between them here and in their debut eps.

[@kray97]

The Constructicons too, I think.

[@LockeLynx]

Now I know why Superion has a strong disdain for Decepticons in his toy bio. I APPROVE!!!

[@donmccullen1973]

No it was the Predacons. Only Skylinx was their equal regardless if they were indidvuals or combined in Prediking.

[@sccc6758]

Predakons as predaking would beat them all hands down then menacor.

[@donmccullen1973]

@@sccc6758 Predacons = Predaking STUNTACONS = Menasor.

[@Makeitso2023]

Love how the deceptions blow the head off the very same guardian they will again use to attack the autobots in the future

[@brentbarnhart7050]

Hahahahah. That’s great!

[@cjparks7881]

How ironic

[@RemixOfTheVoid]

Literally something I didn't notice until I rewatched it today. I first saw this episode back in either 2009 or 2010, and ONLY just saw that lol

[@jamesmuise2499]

This origin basically makes Optimus Prime the robot version of Captain America. Not a bad way to go all things considered.

[@chrismc410]

By that logic, as much as Megatron laughed in general in G1 and as crazier he became as Galvatron and purple to boot, that makes him the robot version of the Joker

[@The007JBond]

@@chrismc410 More like the Red Skull, but with purple. You always have to have a Red Skull vs Captain America.

[@allenkim96]

Nice

[@chrisedwards3214]

Red, white, and blue colors match

[@07Optimus]

They also did the same thing in the Transformers Prime series.

[@AgentExeider]

_"If I know anything about this planet, they wouldn't be missed"_ Well, he's not wrong.

[@cristsan4171]

It's all thanks to 🇺🇸

[@Commander_Skullblade]

​@@cristsan4171You assume the U.S. is the only country with bad or corrupt leaders.

[@siphonophores]

​@@cristsan4171😊

[@M1A1Eibremz]

⁠@@cristsan4171not just the Americans tho

[@Darthzilla99]

20:11 I love Superion's challenge declaration to the Guardian robot.

[@Davethe3rd]

20:46 - Rob Paulsen goes absolutely HAM in the recording booth. Excellent performance!!

[@chrisedwards3214]

Funny rob Paulsen doesn't remember doing transformers guy had a busy schedule guess he looked at it as a job and taking whatever gig he could at the time but I think.transforners was one of the first things he's done if im.not mistaken

[@Davethe3rd]

@@chrisedwards3214 Well, it's not like he played memorable characters. He played two Combiner limbs for three episodes.

[@chrisedwards3214]

@@Davethe3rd Peter cullen forgot he played Mario in Saturday supercade Frank welker had to remind Peter they were the voices of mighty man and yuk lol

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

@@chrisedwards3214 Mighty Man and Yukk was the first paring of Peter Cullen and Frank Welker.

[@chrisedwards3214]

@@Davethe3rd Paulsen was just starting out then and I guess he just looked at this as a paying gig

[@rajvindersingh3607]

I love how the aerialbots made the choice Optimus Prime he hoped they would make to honour Alpha Trion

[@Commander_Skullblade]

I just rewatched The Key to Vector Sigma, and I'm really glad you pointed this out.

[@Fenrir72]

Orion Pax, potential Megatron groupie to eternal nemesis!

[@donmccullen1973]

Yep.

[@chrisedwards3214]

Idw Orion pax admired megatron

[@clhound]

The original Stan.

[@LockeLynx]

Aerialbots took a complete 180 from loving the 'Cons strength to outright hating their very existence by the end of it for their atrocities, and their hatred is amplified as Superion. I APPROVE!!!

[@jeanettewu2537]

I actually think Megatron miscalculated here. Had he feigned being nice with the Aerialbots, sent Starscream's jets to play mentor to them, he could have easily recruited them into the Decepticons. Instead, by tricking and betraying them, he cemented their determination to be Autobots.

[@donmccullen1973]

@@jeanettewu2537 Yep, but that is Megatron. He wanted control, and got desperate. Actually the Autobots stopped the crono device in time for the the Aerials to be put in the right time and right place to see who their enemy really is.

[@ChibiProwl]

@@donmccullen1973 Yep. He did the same thing with Skyfire.

[@chrisedwards3214]

@@jeanettewu2537 Megatron had enough seekers and jets already and he had plenty more on Cybertron what did ne need the aerialbots for

[@girlgarde]

@@jeanettewu2537 Yeah plus Megatron could easily have told the Aerialbots about the bad things the Autobots did to the Decepticons in the past which drove them to rise against him. Many fans speculate that the Autobots constantly mistreated the Decepticons during the Golden Age of Cybertron and treated them like 2nd class citizens and I tend to believe that. While it doesn't excuse the extreme actions of the Decepticons, it would explain why they waged war on the Autobots. If Megatron had told the Aerialbots these things combined with the other things you mentioned, he could've gotten them to become Decepticons as with the exception of Silverbolt were doubtful that the war was entirely their fault. As for Megatron's actions against Orion Pax and his friends, Megatron could've been driven by hatred for the Autobots and their mistreatment of his people along with keeping them from their rightful place as leaders of a Cybertronian Empire and saw all Autobots as scum. Of course, the Aerialbots had emotional ties to Orion Pax and his friends and since they hadn't done anything bad to the Decepticons, they were rightfully enraged at Megatron and ended up being determined to stop him no matter what.

[@HelloMisterJAMWAH]

The sequence of the Aerialbots returning from the past, with the music and the high stakes, has been my favourite part of the series since I was a kid.

[@lovenlightman]

Having a cartoon that went back to the past shows how this show was Superb. Transformers generation one and Xmen where the best in my opinion. This episode and the Origin of OMEGA Supreme.

[@Darkbotsz5]

Spiderman 70s animation.

[@raphaeldagamer]

"From what I've been able to learn about this planet, they wouldn't be missed" Too true, Skydive, too true.

[@turtleboy991]

For all the animation errors, this is STILL one of my favorite episodes. I mean, the origin of Optimus Prime?!? Idk how I COULDN'T love it!

[@prestonmcleod1726]

This episose was a great lesson for any Transformers fan out there. This episode teaches us that Optimus wasn't always the great leader he is today. He was also once young, naive, & careless, before growing into the great powerful leader he is today.

[@SilverStreak9841uoattob]

Reminds me of Hot Rod.

[@Rat_King_Reviews]

Yeah cheers grandad

[@JaredGrinstead]

Destroy the time machine now repair the time machine

[@Jhayzer021]

This is one of the best episodes of Transformers i've seen. The story is truly magnificent. Seeing Orion Pax, Arielle and Dion is a treat before they became the characters we know and love.

[@roguespartan2854]

Whoever designed the characters in TF ONE definitely referred to this when designing Orion's face. The contours on their faces match

[@Fandomhopps456]

In concept art, its even more obvious that they were trying to emulate G1 Orion Pax

[@LucLightWolf121]

Probably the most important episode of G1 TRANSFORMERS. Love this episode a lot.

[@lovenlightman]

Another important one was the history of OMEGA Supreme.

[@shandraallen2644]

My friends and I loved watching the Transformers: War Dawn because we learned how to choose our friends wisely. This is one of many of the original version stories of the Transformers that I still love to watch.📺📺📺📺📺🍿🍿🍿💕💕

[@EVH9208]

That's cool. The friends we have often determine the choices we make.

[@athlonen]

Wow.. I just noticed: Neither Rob Paulsen nor Samantha Newark got a voice credit for this episode. They definitely deserve it!

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

They started late in season 2. Also Charlie Adler, Laurie Faso, and others didn't get the voice credit either.

[@sohaibanwarraza]

Who is here after watching Transformer One?

[@katherinemorgan1833]

I am.

[@evanjohns6815]

I’m here a lot, but this episode just became very prescient

[@thaumastura]

Yeah! Till all are one! Vine aquí después de ver Trasformers One para recordar 👍

[@darraihaedmonds6532]

Me😊

[@jaredconley808]

Here Too.😢

[@TFfangeek]

At 16:43, the Arialbots jaw dropped expressions must have been the same for Transformers fans when this first aired on television. It was my expression the first time I saw this episode in 2007.

[@bblande]

100%. I remember watching it when it first aired. I was like 😮

[@HerohammerStudios]

So can we talk about how Megatron created freaking time travel and all he wanted to use it for was to gather energy from the past? Lmao love it

[@Invidrule]

And throw the Aerialbots back in time. He could have gone back to do any number of things yet his present existence is most important. Though as we see in this episode going back in time to change the course of history would not have done so since any time travel is already part of history.

[@Isaac-gh5ku]

Makes you wonder why Megatron didn't build another time machine? Unless the time machine he acquired is not his, and it is a 'lost technology' in which Megatron found it.

[@prussianbirdproductions56]

Respecting time laws I see

[@rizon72]

I still enjoy this origin story for Optimus Prime over the others.

[@Anthyrion]

My favourite is the Story in Transformers Prime. They combined the old G1 Story with the newer Story of former Primes

[@danells9543]

This is more true i think

[@nickzilla20]

I enjoyed this origin along with Transformers Prime’s origin.

[@ixiahj]

Isn't this still his origin? He was still Orion Pax. They just changed his occupation.

[@TrigunnerX3]

@@ixiahj That does make sense. And there is some wisdom that can be gained from being what's basically a warehouse manager.

[@dracodracarys2339]

Huh, so Megatron was ALWAYS Megatron in this timeline. Transformers One making him and Orion peers and pals was kind of more compelling tbh.

[@rickrd0]

Maybe it's Dion. And That Megatron it's another using the time machine.

[@MrCat-zz5eo]

Yep. A later G1 episode proves Megatron was *built* evil. Glad IDW and One changed that, really.

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

​@@MrCat-zz5eoactually the background of the cybertron is more complicated it all began when prima prime one of the first primes lowered the energon resources of the planet in order to ensure that the big population of the wild life of the planet to get lower and ever since generations had for a while resources but they were getting lowered so they had to extract energon and some other cities of cybertron were struggling to have energon Iacon was the only city that had certain energon resources and the high council was greedy enough to share with other citizens especially the senators who exploited the rest population of cybertron to extract energon and then megatron exploited the needs of the population in order to get power to rule cybertron

[@Kirbysansandbootlegsansshow]

And this is why war dawn is the better transformers 1

[@billyboleson2830]

The first michael bay movie was actually the first to portray megatron and prime as friends before the war

[@santaboy4818]

Starscream: I'll teach you some things about Decepticons alright. Me: Apart from the fact they call themselves 'Decept'icons.

[@danostrom205]

Optimus told vector sigma. "Let them think for themselves. To grow in knowledge and wisdom. And let them always value freedom and life where ever they find it" That's the core of who each was, so it was hard for them believe that the Decepticons are nothing like that. Not until they experienced it for themselves

[@cjparks7881]

Which is 1 of the GREATEST reasons why Optimus Prime was 1 of the greatest heroes of all-time. Quotes like that

[@ManuelJordan317]

It is practically one of the best episodes - with many errors about continuity of time/events in the warehouse but an excellent episode about the history of old cybertron

[@HerohammerStudios]

What errors?

[@PaulDavies4]

This episode was done first, so everything that came after was wrong, in terms of lore errors.

[@ManuelJordan317]

@@HerohammerStudios About 2, Elita is inside of the warehouse but appears twice out of the warehouse running with the Aerialbots, all of them running together to the warehouse. But she is already in the warehouse, so he appears 2 times, inside and outside at the same time, the events are not correct.

[@ManuelJordan317]

@@PaulDavies4 read my other comment ...

[@shandraallen2644]

Wow that's awesome memories of our childhood days! We couldn't not wait to watch our favorite shows after school Monday through Friday!

[@lovenlightman]

Im from Israel. Transformers was broadcast on tusdays on five oclock I think. I had a Judo class that I liked ,but they wonted to change the class to Tusdays so I quiet it and went to another teacher....

[@lovenlightman]

I remember When I was in america California in 1988 , they used to show great cartoons on saturday mornings ,Spiderman ,the hulk

[@marclewis5505]

Yup. Transformers along with G.I.Joe, Thundercats and Dennis The Menace.

[@NebLleb]

This is one of The Transformers' best outings. The core premise of going back into the past of the universe is honestly well done and awesome, and there's very few animation goofs as well. And wait, a bunch of Transformers from the future go back in time to an important event in history... Hey Hasbro, are you guys gonna follow up your uploads of The Transformers with uploads of Beast Wars: Transformers?

[@In_The_80s]

I love how the Golden Age is actually Gold lol.

[@nicholasbrunell8210]

Remember how Optimus and Starscream lost their coloration when they died? I think the same thing is happening to Cybertron.

[@In_The_80s]

@@nicholasbrunell8210 that actually makes sense if you really think about it. That's brilliant mate!

[@9M-RAU]

So in this way, Megatron's scheme to get rid of the 5+1 Autobot planes end up as the reason why Orion Pax became Optimus. (Ignoring the time travel paradox, at least)

[@chrisc6857]

Pushes Megatron into 'Good Job Fixing It, Villain' territory.

[@GuardianKyle]

Probably one of the best episodes of the series.

[@cjparks7881]

The origin of Optimus Prime. TIMELESS no pun intended

[@Tvirus12]

Anyone noticed how Megatron's first army consistented mainly of transformers that turned into boxes?

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

Well he always wants to deceive

[@glory2cybertron]

Orion was actually very pretty. In later canon iterations showing Optimus without a faceplate he’s either badly scarred, sort of odd looking, or visibly aged. Also creators have had a hard time processing the thought of a young Megatron, as if he was always old (that could technically happen if he was constructed from recycled or stolen old parts though)

[@chrisedwards3214]

Megatron was just created around this time he decided to put together an army and take over cybertron

[@c.glazercrush3994]

@@chrisedwards3214 a young Megatron would of been crazy,I'd imagine he'd like to blow things up.he hung with shockwave who had a face before until it was blown up by some autobot general.starskream thunder cracker and rumble would be around him as well.The culprit who blew up soundwaves face worked for obsidian and striker.The team got modified into their current look by the fallen along with the ancient cunstructicon group.This would put things into perspective and along with the gladiatorial combat and loses of Conrad's would be the build for Megatron's rage.

[@hazielpax2290]

​@@c.glazercrush3994Isn't that comics? Not sure if that's G1 lore

[@philfitnesspt6139]

In gen 1 prime only has the face plate that is his face it's only bay formers who gave him a proper face and cartoons after etc.

[@philfitnesspt6139]

Yeah thats comics that isn't gen 1 cannon.

[@mightyrobot42]

Optimus gets saved by time-travellers from the future a lot, doesn't he? It happened again when he was in stasis lock after the Ark's crash.

[@weirdstuffcorp8584]

Oh yeah, that’s right. Beast Wars

[@great159]

Beast Wars is NOT cannon to the original Transformers show. The writers even said it and it shows.

[@tsm688]

@@great159 canon = legitimate cannon = galvaton's alt mode

[@jedijack0577]

@@great159 In Japan it’s connected to G1 and that’s also what I choose believe

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

Vector prime's help i guess i theorize

[@Deka4891]

Bravo! This is one of my favorite episodes of the series. I like this viewpoint of the war beginning better than other stories since.

[@great159]

This is the beginning of the THIRD Great War NOT the war itself. The FIRST Great War was the rebellion against the Quintessons. The SECOND Great War was Autobots vs Decepticons where they developed transformations🤓

[@Deka4891]

@@great159 Thanks for clearing that up. I thought that the Cybertronian Wars were always Autobot vs Decepticon with different Primes and Leaders of both sides clashing.

[@shadowdramon01]

Orion Pax’s design was the look intended for Ultra Magnus, until Hasbro decided to use the Diaclone Powered Convoy toy for him.

[@jgvillan01]

Well, Power of the Primes Optimus Prime pretty much covers this. The cab module is Orion, merge him with his trailer, and you get Optimus Prime.

[@Gollumfili]

Love it when Megatron gives them a dressing down "you fools!" says it with such conviction.

[@cjparks7881]

He's the main reason why I call people fool lol

[@dionanderson8185]

So much nostalgia watching these now as I did on Saturday morning as a kid 💯

[@JoshuaPrime]

This episode made the Aerialbots feel more connected and important to the history of transformers than any other combiner group, the fact that they made Optimus who he is, blows my mind i love this episode.

[@daviddanielbuenanohochman99]

Furthermore in S3 "Forever is a long time coming" when Superion saves A3 from the Quints. Making the robot revolt posible. And bringing it full circle, saving the one whom in the future would give his life to create them. Very important, indeed.

[@chadhampton2176]

17:56, Optimus went Rambo mode.

[@_V.Va_]

It's kind of funny how Orion was like "don't care, the war isn't my problem" until him being a naive fool nearly gets him killed and the war IS his problem. 😂

[@chrissmart21]

I remember watching this for the first time when I was 6. And after all these years I still love it when Prime says "Your worst nightmare!"

[@perfectsplit5515]

Transformers One brought me here. I actually forgot about Orion Pax and Ariel / Elita-One. It turns out that the female pink robot in the movie is NOT Arcee. I only remembered that Alpha Trion was the father/creator of Optimus Prime.

[@leeb8186]

I thought Elita-1 was Arcee during almost the entire time I was watching the movie until I actually saw her in the crowd towards the end. I never watched this show until after watching Transformers One so I actually never knew who Elita-1 was until now and when I saw Ariel in short clips back in the day I always confused her for Arcee then too

[@AdurianJ]

You see some of the female Autobots from "Search For Alpha Trion" when Orion Pax return to the mine to convince the miners to join him, Moonracer and Chromia are in the crowd. Arcee has a speaking part she's the one who say's "we can't fight we don't have cogs" Though Arcee is a third season addition and was not in season 2 of G1

[@ElvenRaptor]

Boy, the new movie sure upped the damage Orion's shoulder wound did, eh?

[@BladeCrossEXE]

Megatron: *kills Orion Pax* Optimus Prime: I lived, bıtch.

[@scarboroughjames7]

Love the look on the Arielbots faces when Orion Pax comes walking out rebuilt as Optimus Prime.

[@billyboleson2830]

I wasn't expecting Aplha Trion to have such a young and not deep sounding voice. I know he sounds older later but its not like the cybertronians ever visually age

[@AgentExeider]

*Starscream seemingly recruits aerial bots* Megatron: _"Those naive fools are walking into my trap."_ Me: _"Um, so you wouldn't want to try to you know, recruit them."_ Megatron: _"Quiet you...."_

[@davidtierney7941]

Megaton *points his Fusion Cannon at you, then thinks better of it* “although now that I think about it, Mawhaa”

[@santaboy4818]

@@davidtierney7941 Sometimes Megatron needs a second head to make a good decision, unfortunately that second head is that idiot Starscream.

[@toystoryfan55]

Megatron: We’re not doing that because that would make sense!

[@ChibiProwl]

@@santaboy4818 and traitorous weasel, Starscream.

[@MrSniperfox29]

@@santaboy4818 Megatron and Starscream trade the idiot hat a lot in season 2

[@blastvortex]

If Megatron had been *really* clever, he would've sent them back without Silverbolt. Bolt was the only voice of reason in the the Aerialbots' first ep, and he was the only reason they were in the right place at the right time here. If not, they probably would have been stuck up long enough to be more trouble than they were worth, or worse, just like Meganut wanted. Decepticons always mess up their own plans.

[@girlgarde]

Yeah but its a kiddie cartoon so they have to have the Decepticons mess up their own plans. In reality, they would've sought to convert the Aerialbots to the Decepticon cause and likely succeeded with the exception of Silverbolt of course who was pro-Autobot from the very start. Of course, Slingshot and the other Aerialbots were only iffy because the Humans at a military base fired on them thinking that the Autobots attacked them earlier when it was in fact the Stunticons. It never occurred to those idiot Humans that the Decepticons could've gotten reinforcements from Cybertron so the Humans too were idiots at times who messed things up.

[@Jetblast01]

Even if he did, the others would've seen how war hungry Megatron of the past was and would've changed.

[@blastvortex]

Eventually, yes. All I was saying was that they would not have been witness to the Massacre at the Energon Storage Facility. The other Autobots might not have had as easy a time getting them back, even with the supposed Recall function, depending how it works. Only true Decepticons--inherent or reprogrammed--or certain Autobot criminals were susceptible to the power madness of their inferred allegiance. (This except for the Decepticons who really were just in it because they were true "followers," i.e. Soundwave.) The Aerialbots would have surely switched sides or more likely high tailed it to a more active part of the Galaxy / universe--think Season 3 rather than Season 2--where they didn't have to deal with the monotony of a war that shouldn't be their problem.

[@clownplayer7265]

To be fair with Megatron, the aerialbots were pretty new warriors, practically fresh meat that just happened to be elite from the get go. It's easy to assume he just simply hasn't have the time to fully know his new enemies yet.

[@dantecajigas22]

One of the best episodes of the G1 Transformers.

[@officialkirbyfan6899]

Seeing Characters actually DIE in the G1 Cartoon (Especially this Episode) is actually surprising, especially if you watched the 1986 movie which was infamous for killing of most of the characters from Season 1 and some from Season 2 aswell!

[@philfitnesspt6139]

Well actually they didn't die orion turned into prime and the girl eleta 1 true Didn’t say about dion but sounds like he wasn't dead so probably rebuilt to possibly into ultra magnus but that's fan theory 🤔

[@cianfoley3117]

The movie is much darker than the series.

[@Bacondude77]

“I was wrong my friends, I admired Megatron because he was powerful, I failed to see how he will use that power.” - Optimus Prime that is probably my favorite quote of Optimus he sees that despite Megatron being powerful he still used his own power for himself and his own gain something Orion or Optimus would never do.

[@RichardX1]

And it means that all concepts of Optimus and Megatron being friends in their backstory have precedent in G1.

[@heavyhitter5538]

13:42 turning his head to the right when dead. Thats Optimus Prime alright lol

[@victorcolon1454]

As showcased by Optimus, any newly built robot is temporary impervious to any laser shots from an older robot.

[@tsm688]

invincibility frames

[@glitch_re-loaded6757]

Nah his respawn shield was still counting down 😂

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@tsm688 I'm more inclined to believe Megatron just had his cannon upgraded.

[@myriadmediamusings]

I think if I had to give my favorite all time G1 episode, it would be this one. A pretty good origin story for Optimus Prime. Does anyone here subscribe to the theory that Dion, Orion Pax’s buddy here, would be rebuilt into Ultra Magnus?

[@Fenrir72]

Kinda but Hb is quite shy to it. In DW it is highly alluded to.

[@morganlasch8750]

I think he was, but before he was given a better body for fighting

[@jkris1947]

The real question is, why does Ultra Magnus always get punked!

[@Sbungo61]

Well Magnus could be a completely different character, the two of them don't have to be relate

[@minicle426]

Weirdly I always thought Kup looked closer to Dion back in the day.

[@brevemclendon6579]

"Now, Guardian!" Loved that single line of Superion's.

[@gelfeatherweight5335]

11:48 water on Cybertron lol love it

[@ValirValor]

Thats prob pure goddam energon down there, idk.

[@athlonen]

At some point during the reruns of season 3, this episode aired in our local market. And until that point I, like many other kids, were in the mindset of "newer = better." Then after a run of episodes with Rodimus and season 3 characters, including Dark Awakening (with the original ending), this show aired, and made me realize how much I missed the first two seasons, to where I couldn't stand season 3 at all. Not that season 3 was bad, but that I preferred seasons 1-2 better (read: pre-movie). I then set out to get all of those episodes I could find (glad to have the box set now), but It all started with this episode.

[@jjjsalang]

The Season 3 Autobots are loveable in my opinion, but I wish at least more of the Season 1-2 autobots had guest roles in Season 3.

[@domingorubies656]

@@jjjsalang season 1 and 2 autobots>>>season 3 autobots.

[@jjjsalang]

@@domingorubies656, I agree. It took time watching the Season 3 episodes for me to appreciate the Season 3 autobots. However, Season 1 - 2 autobots were better.

[@domingorubies656]

@@jjjsalang Decepticons too. Although Predaking and Trypticon are cool.

[@Jetblast01]

It honestly wouldn't have been so bad if they weren't trying to kill/replace ALL the original characters...But hey, we get more Dinobots, so that's always a plus season 3 did. Also Grimlock saving the universe.

[@liljatupsu]

I love this episode for having aerialbot focus and lore, but at the same time G1 Orion Pax is my sleep paralysis demon

[@JamesCarmichael]

Season 1: "Hey kids. Meet Optimus Prime. Isn't he cool?" Season 2: "Hey Kids. Here's how Optimus Prime came to be." The Movie: "Hey Kids. Here's Optimus Prime on his death bed." Season 3: "Hey Kids. Here's Optimus Prime as a walking zombie....oh and he dies again." Season 4: "Hey Kids. Here's Optimus Prime for 3 Episodes."

[@tsm688]

they never intended to kill him off for good, they just ran out of oomph altogether by the end

[@clhound]

Orion was a Cybertronian Amazon warehouse manager, that's enough to drive anybody to war.

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

If you store power resources yes then

[@mxes5938]

the single best episode that is not a multi parter of the first two episodes, mabe even G1 as a whole. so much lore and development in just 22 minutes, outstanding

[@thegreen5962]

Notice at 17:25 ~ the guardian robot gets shot in the face(in that past) and the other guardian robot appearing earlier in the episode in present day with no head. Perhaps the same guardian robot

[@jvbutalid8316]

The part of the opening sequence wherein Optimus and Megatron are fighting as the weird digital-grid floor consumes them both as if a black hole, has a whole new meaning ever since I saw how Fall of Cybertron ended. Also, that game missed the opportunity to kinda reenact the part of War Dawn wherein Megatron asks who Optimus is, where Optimus replies with "your worst nightmare". Not that I use it as a talking point against the game. I mean, its version of "one shall stand, one shall fall" is already too good.

[@lambda494]

20:31 I love when Superion's like, "Okay, I've had just about enough of this" and beats the Guardian in one punch.

[@Rambo-Gaming]

I loved seeing Optimus Prime's origin story.

[@MegaBeast6854]

6:07 Skywarp: Are those guys crazy? Starscream: Crazy or even dumber than I suspected. I love this 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@xiayabennett6982]

Skywarp’s tone made it that much better

[@bjscorpio4041]

That's a lot of story packed into one episode.

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

I wanted to have two parts

[@kidz4p509]

Before Optimus Prime, there was Orion Pax.

[@MogsterKupo]

I feel blessed that this good-ass show was part of my childhood. Re-watching now makes me wonder if this is the OG 'Thor arrives at Wakanda' 😮

[@mattm9204]

At 13:30 there is a error it briefly shows ariel running with the aerial bots then in the next scene she's on the ground damaged

[@93chrish]

I saw that

[@DigenisGR]

20:34 Ever seen a robot have an ANGRY face??? Here is my boy Superion.

[@donmccullen1973]

Now do you see why Alpha Trion merged with Vector Sigma? He saw the predestination paradox.

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

Trion knows everything especially the future that was one of the power primus gave him

[@beanetricemcdaniel6853]

Every Saturdays mornings waking up eating some hot breakfast while watching these shows. Great memories

[@blueraccoon1088]

This is the episode that started all for optimus prime

[@jollypopcomics2]

"Mom, I wanna watch Transformers One!" "No sweetie. We have Transformers One at home." Transformers One at home:

[@Kirbysansandbootlegsansshow]

The better transformers 1

[@_V.Va_]

@@KirbysansandbootlegsansshowYeah I love the worse visuals and writing of Geewun. 😂

[@wingedbluj1674]

Each has their own positives, we're all Transformers fans here.

[@Syr00pMS]

​@@_V.Va_ that's because g1 was older than tf one and the animations,sounds and visuals back then kinda sucked it is still a good show to watch because of the story

[@_V.Va_]

@@Syr00pMS I know, it was the 80's and the cartoon was little more than a commercial. I kinda wanna see this version redone, instead being written and animated better.

[@AdurianJ]

In our history books in school there was a WW1 era cartoon of a muscle bound headless soldier and a lanky general marveling at the guy stating "At last the perfect soldier". Always thought of that when i hear Megatron state a warrior doesn't need a head.

[@ddg4005]

That part where Optimus Prime mows down those combat drones always gets me.

[@triggerhappyreviews]

Golden age decepticon: So what alt mode did you get? Other decepticon: cube

[@ZombieGamingMetalhead]

Hasbro Pulse needs to have a 24-7 live feed of the transformers like the gi Joe ones on here

[@almaisaks]

"All this fuss over some stupid humans." "'Stupid humans'? They only happen to be half of this planet's leaders." -Slingshot and Silverbolt, who thinks the other half are... Atlanteans, maybe? "There's only one way to get those Aerialbots off our tails and that's to... dump the chumps!" -Starscream right before he dumps the chumps, er, humans. "Are those guys crazy?" "Crazy, or even dumber than I suspected." -Skywarp and Starscream talking about the Aerialbots who stopped fighting and want to "talk" to the Seekers. Starscream: Okay buddies, we'll talk. What do you want to know? Slingshot: I want to know why Optimus Prime thinks you're evil. Starscream: That old rust bucket doesn't know a thing about Decepticons. Stick with me. I'll teach you some things about the Decepticons, all right. Silverbolt: I don't believe this! -Starscream prepares to school the Aerialbots. "Those little twerps. They're tryin' to switch sides!" -Ironhide comments on the dubious loyalty of the Aerialbots. "The Decepticons. Boy, this'd be a great time to get to know 'em!" "You've just got to learn things the hard way, don'tcha?" -Slingshot and Silverbolt "A warrior doesn't need a head! Just a good, strong body." -Megatron reveals one of his guiding philosophies, re: the downed Guardian Robot "You may not recognize him. He is no longer Orion Pax. He is the first of our new defenders... Optimus Prime." "I was wrong, my friends. I admired Megatron merely because he was powerful. I failed to see how he used that power." -Alpha Trion introducing Optimus Prime. Optimus Prime: You've caused enough destruction for one day, Megatron! Megatron: I haven't even started! [Megatron fires several shots at Optimus Prime, all of which bounce off harmlessly] Megatron: [shocked] You, who are you?! Optimus Prime: Your worst nightmare! -Megatron and Optimus Prime confront each other for the first time. "You’ll never get away from us, Megatron! We won’t stop fighting until you’re finished! YOU HEAR!?" -Slingshot finally learning to aggressively hate his Decepticon enemies and not want to make peace by befriending them. "It all began about nine million years ago..." "Oh, great! It's gonna be one of those long stories!" -Optimus Prime and Ratchet, after the latter demands to know what's going on.

[@donmccullen1973]

04:02 Well you created the Stuntacons Mighty Megatron, what did you expect from the Autobots? Megatron: SILENCE!!!

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

At the end of this episode Optimus said 'You so You Five were the ones who saved Me' if that was true it would appear that Megatron created a temporal paradox by sending the Aerialbots to the past to get rid of them and unknowingly helped create his mortal enemy Optimus Prime because if he didn't send the Aerialbots to the past then Orion Pax wouldn't have been saved along with Ariel and Dion and those 3 innocent bots would have died in that hangar so by his actions Optimus Prime is alive because of Megatron and the Aerialbots.

[@fishpop]

14:42 That line has been stuck in my head since childhood. Not sure why but it pops up now and then. Cos of this i kinda want that new Legacy Guardian but it's too expensive and i have nowhere to put the thing.

[@OfficialTransformers]

I loved this movie 🍿 it never gets old, I love doing Stop Motion animation with my Movie & G1 Transformers mainly 🎬📸🎞️‼️

[@fishpop]

@@OfficialTransformers Okay... That's nice to know i guess...