War in Ukraine: What it’s like defending Avdiivka against Russian attacks - BBC Newsnight

Russia has been attempting to encircle the eastern Ukraine town of Avdiivka and has been repeatedly attacking it for over a month.
The town retains its reputation as a stronghold just beyond occupied Donetsk, but some fear it will soon follow the same fate as Bakhmut, which has been almost completely destroyed.
Jack Losh has spoken to some locals to see how they’re doing and to find out what winter could bring for the Ukrainian Eastern flank.
Reporter: Jack Losh
Producer: Tetiana Kharchenko
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[@lalah9481]

The world hasn’t looked away, the media has.

[@candyhotlips1338]

Exactly. They will run anywhere there is a big story. Shame on them.

[@user-fb2tm7wf4d]

Ukraine cannot yet fight against NATO

[@jack727dave5]

@@user-fb2tm7wf4dWhy would they fight against NATO?

[@Pikkabuu]

@@user-fb2tm7wf4d Why would Ukraine fight against NATO?

[@Ganttura1]

@@user-fb2tm7wf4d Ukraine is a friend of NATO while Russia is it's biggest enemy lmfao

[@putinisgod6814]

soooo…. This aged well

[@JC-rr1wu]

It's not the world that has shifted the focus to the middle-east, it's the news. The people of Europe are still very much focused on the biggest and most crucial war on our continent since WW2. But clicks and views brings in the money, there was a time when the press served a nobler cause than just being entertainment for the masses.

[@markojakovljevic4779]

You‘re on point with this comment

[@PonutsAreGreat]

The irony is, that civilian casualties are higher in Gaza than in Ukraine.

[@georgephutsisi8838]

@@PonutsAreGreat how shocking, and Putin is wanted by ICC not Netanyahu

[@Dale-dh9zd]

​@PonutsAreGreat No they're not, that is a blatant lie

[@PonutsAreGreat]

@@Dale-dh9zd Number of civilian deaths in Ukraine since February 24 is around 10k. Number of civilians death in Gaza by November 7 was already more than 10k due to indiscriminate bombardment of densely populated areas.

[@tidalregulator]

The narrator comments that the world's attention is focused on the Middle East, acknowledging that this is potentially harmful for Ukraine. This raises the question of why the BBC has also almost completely shifted ITS attention to the Middle East?

[@faithingod5533]

because they now have to admit Ukraine can never have possibly won and all the propaganda reporting to date was complete bull shit. Duh. They want it to slip out of the public conscious. Pretty obvious really.

[@jonnsonsam]

The 400 million they were given to fund Ukraine's propaganda ran out.

[@AahFukIt]

Peace talks are allready up at top levels around goverments. Summer offensive have been a clear failure. Zelensky if facing an uphill walk.

[@King-LXVI]

They have to serve their Israeli bosses.

[@catherinekrzan6605]

Netanyahu did not stand with Ukraine. He was afraid of antagonizing Putin. Yet Putin received a Hamas delegation a few months before Oct. 7th terror attack on Israeli civilians.

[@javiermartinezjr8849]

She didn't wake up...man my heart broke I felt like crying almost how many ukranians have that story I imagine every ukranians has lost someone they know or loved by this point and it won't end soon god have mercy on us

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Zelinskiy is ProWar. That's why it will continue.

[@archieharrison9433]

​@@user-cv8xw8zn5u so you think this has nothing to do with Russian filth invading Ukraine? Why should Ukraine give even an inch of THEIR country to Russia? Go to your own media with your propaganda you Russian boot licker.

[@nc01sadh]

@user-cv8. 'z' fascist , what about your fascist leader Putin. He isn't pro-war? A fascist dictator who has been in power for more than 20yrs.

[@luckyluke1503]

She is ethically Russian dummy not Ukrainian. She also didn’t wanna leave but was forced to leave. Do you not understand when people speak Russian?

[@EnglishAntiSchool]

Yeah! Ruz bots know better ))) go FiretrUCK yourself!@@user-cv8xw8zn5u

[@_Lax_]

Avdiivka is actually not only beneficial for war propaganda, but also serves as the final big, bulky and formidable stronghold in the East for Ukraine side. No place in the West of the town is as fortified, mined and densely packed with industrial areas and residential homes that the army could take cover in and hold. Not to mention it will make any attempt at bombarding or harrassing Donetsk city incredibly difficult due to lack of base of operation and a much larger distance from before, which would most likely make Donetsk the center of Russian military command and supply in the East. With a secured command center and supply hut so close to the combat lines, Russian advance in this section would be easier than ever, and with the fact both Avdiivka and Bakhmut are in Russian hand, they would no longer worry about potential counteroffensive that may threaten their flanks and can now focus safely on advancing in the Eastern direction without looking back. It will be a disaster for the East bank of the Dniepro River, and of any future attempt to reach Crimea from Ukrainian side since they will then be attacked from two sides with no fortification to slow down the enemy advance. If Avdiivka falls then may God have mercy on those poor frontline soldiers bc I wouldnt hope the Russians will.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Amen.

[@hamish1309]

Just a matter of time

[@simonpedge]

When Bakhmut fell, many military experts here in the west were saying that Bakhmut was not the strategic hub that the Russians were claiming and that Avdiivka was much more important strategically. So now, I'm assuming that Avdiivka is not going to be that important anymore, and some other city will become the de-facto strategic hub??

[@duskokukolj5571]

Samo je pitanje dana kada će to Rusi zauzeti!

[@duskokukolj5571]

​@@simonpedge😂😂😂.Pa izmisliti će nešto drugo!

[@seahippies]

What a joke....Showing Russian soldiers helping evacuate locals then saying they're Ukrainians...Who looks??

[@lindaSmith6588]

My focus remains on Ukraine.

[@TheodoreK.k-nw3wq]

What you have to say about those policemen that spoke russian to the civilians?

[@Luser-klimushka]

пробивается у него иногда человеческие инстинкты@@TheodoreK.k-nw3wq

[@user-eo7oh8px9e]

avdiivka has fallen lol

[@lindaSmith6588]

@user-eo7oh8px9e avdiivka was lost because US aid was delayed!!!

[@cronoukie]

Very glad the BBC is giving attention to Ukraine again. Appreciate your A+ coverage

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Yes, we need to remember Ukraine A ttacking Donetsk Republic since 20 14

[@alex.velasco]

@@user-cv8xw8zn5u Nice try, Russian troll.

[@bluebird1902]

...Ukraine has been bombing Donetsk constantly from 2014...every day...from Avdivka city ...not a word!!

[@nostradamus9608]

"How long can Ukraine depend on the West" is completely wrong narrative and wrong question, because 1/ Ukraine IS the West and DE-FACTO it is already NATO 2/ Ukraine IS PROTECTING the West from russian aggression as we speak. Don't take my word on it, just ask Finland, Sweden, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Moldova, and others. Giving Ukrainians weapons, most importantly now, long-range missiles and contemporary planes in a drip-drip-drip manner, and expecting them to quickly beat russia, is a sign of cowardice or insanity, if not both. Glory to Ukraine! 💙💛 🇺🇦🇺🇸 ✌

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Donetsk voted for freedom and self-determination .

[@WareaOrapa]

Ukraine must not be left alone. Every democracy in the world must support Ukraine.

[@mrgamingking18]

Why?

[@Worselol]

If you're from Ukraine then you are prohibited of: 1. Speaking Russian 2. Leaving country 3. Refusing to fight 4. Praying in church that was established by your ancestors 1000 years ago 5. Criticism of government 6. Protests against government 7. Proposing of peace. Also all medias are state controlled and don't have right to observe military incidents without President's permission. So in the end Ukraine is a dictatorship...

[@hamoudeallam645]

So Biden and Ze gain more money :D @@mrgamingking18

[@trevor759]

Shut up… 😂

[@mohamedhalicelamina2215]

THE CASUALTIES IS 1 TO 5 IN FAVOR OF RUSSIA

[@steveprocter6241]

The BBC reporting on Ukraine has been abysmal throughout the whole war. There are no journalists entreached with the troops. It is not possible to get a good daily picture of events there via the BBC.

[@variaxaxis1176]

BBC staff are afraid, they want to report a biased report when they feel they are safe in the bunker… BBC has lost its credibility for news reporting… CNN and BBC are all the same..

[@teslawatshipi1329]

That's what they said about Bakhamut it will be insanity to repeat the same mistake

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Zelinskiy is ProWar.

[@Ukrainian__Patriot]

@@user-cv8xw8zn5u You are a Muscovite troll. That's plain to see.

[@Charlie0l9]

So, another 10 months and 8 more premature declarations of victory from Russia before they finally capture it?

[@khiem1939]

Bakhmut cost Putin over 40,000 DEAD Conscripts, Mercenaries and Convicts, wonder how many he wants to lose here?

[@stevewake6614]

@@user-cv8xw8zn5u He's pro cocaine

[@darkwa456]

Bbc needs to get back to reporting this war in full.

[@goldenaye3]

You mean reporting propaganda news, and collective west BS, Boris Johnson has alot to answer,i don't see him kitting up and going to the frontline, rather it was easy for him to zelensky to fight on.

[@javiermartinezjr8849]

The problem with elderly ukranians(same with my culture) but more so culturally,there's a ukranians old folk saying "it's better to lay down and die then to abonden ones home"

[@alexk7046]

no they're saying "I'm staying by the front because hopefully the Russians will come and rescue me from these jackboots"

[@babblo1389]

Alex knows something.

[@GrandTerr]

​@@alexk7046disgusting Russian bot

[@Ukrainian__Patriot]

@@alexk7046 Hi, Igor. But you sound like a kid with your friend here @babblo1389 commenting like a child.

[@Ukrainian__Patriot]

@@babblo1389 You both know nothing.

[@user-qt1eo7dq8v]

What?!?! Can it be that the BBC has woken up to the fact that Europe is at war?!?!

[@babblo1389]

What are you talking about?

[@Ukrainian__Patriot]

@@babblo1389 Trolling, I see. Igor, Igor.

[@babblo1389]

Igor koIomoisky, Ukrainian Patriot.

[@fulltank360]

Oh BBC ...still no clue ...

[@hsugraduation2103]

Thank you for not forgetting about Ukraine.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Yes, Ukraine A ttacking Donetsk Republic since 2014

[@karlwedin5979]

... according to Russian lies and propaganda.@@user-cv8xw8zn5u

[@taniakrivorot]

​@@user-cv8xw8zn5uwho is Girkin? Как он попал в Славянск?

[@nataliyanakonechna1170]

​@@user-cv8xw8zn5u Донецьк, Луганськ, Крим були, Є Україна 🇺🇦 . Добрий вечір ми з України 🇺🇦

[@Pikkabuu]

@@user-cv8xw8zn5u Well then maybe the people who rebelled in Donetsk should have just moved to Russia!

[@EdgarGarcia-un4ri]

Strong shavels

[@woodendoors9532]

The new Artemovsk.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

True

[@gudrich]

Очередная перемога , полные шаровары перемоги ))

[@vladislavhrasko5194]

Residents of Donetsk speak Russian and it is forbidden in Kiev ????

[@sergeysergeev7564]

You made a mistake in the news headline. Ukraine is the aggressor who attacked the city of Avdeevka, Donetsk Republic. Russia protects Donetsk from Ukrainian aggression.

[@gcsmowfo]

How can Russia still inflict such massive damage when they ran out of ammunition over a year ago? 🤔

[@MemekingJag]

no one ever claimed they ran out of ammo. they've run low on certain kinds of precision guided munitions, but they still have stockpiles of unguided dumb munitions.

[@hakinadedeji]

@@MemekingJag Yeah, keep living under your stone-aged rock, as if you were deaf when these claims were fanned by the media to stoke the war instead of calling for negotiations that will end Ukrainian sufferings. Now it's a "dumb" munition. Why don't you sleep with a "dumb" munition at night near your bed with a mad man holding the trigger. I've been saying since the beginning of the war that it's like Russia stoking Mexico to attack America, they will never survive it. But it seems people lose their brain when it comes to logical reasoning and they follow emotions. Well this is what we have

[@olympia5758]

@@MemekingJag Dude, I remember. Western media was CONSTANTLY saying that Russia would be out of ammo in months and then the war would end. Now people like you are coping when your lies never came true. It's actually Ukraine running low on ammo as they depend on the West for literally everything. The turning point was Bakhmut. Ukraine is done. Russia will win.

[@charlesstockings663]

and that's just a quick search. i just flited my search to January 2023 and that was the first article. the west has been saying the Russians are fighting with shovels.@@MemekingJag

[@ekothesilent9456]

Ukraine is losing to the washing machine army. The US propaganda is starting to backfire lmao. “Russia has no troops, no ammo, they scavenge washing machines and blenders, they conscript teenagers and prisoners and drug addicts” meanwhile Ukraine is losing to THAT army?

[@mr.n4801]

Wait, but what about 'Wonderous' Ukrainian Counteroffensive ? Why BBC isn't showing us the results? 😮😮😮

[@mr.n4801]

BOT

[@wyattwachter5986]

I am still waiting for Russia to show its results. The Russian bots claim Russia has gained more land than Ukraine in recent months and I still haven't found any proof.

[@niblet112]

@@wyattwachter5986war of attrition to demilitarise. As Ukraine are now recruiting woman and 65 year old pensioners I guess we can say it was a success

[@wyattwachter5986]

@@niblet112 Russia is recruiting prisoners and people from the occupied Ukrainian territories. Russia also lost thousands of young adults that left to avoid conscription.

[@niblet112]

@@wyattwachter5986 according to who??? The same media that bought you safe and effective. Again the reality of the world is very different to what MSM tells you. But then maybe you are a fan of the W.E.F??? There’s a reason these psychos are banned from Russia

[@Markusctfldl]

It's over

[@angeurbain6129]

It is like risking and loosing it's life for a lost cause.

[@KevinNguyen-zn4vv]

No justification for war when it can be fought with words through diplomacy.

[@user-mu9ke9ex9f]

Why are the Ukrainians defending? Shouldn't they be marching towards Crimea and Azov? Towards Moscow? This is what we were promised. Now what?

[@ahmedfaisal8957]

Stop this hopeless and useless war!

[@madgavin7568]

Pitch it to Putin, he probably won't listen though.

[@dmitriy40-in22]

С чего это она бесполезная? Столько людей спасли, столько нацисткой мрази утилизировали. Столько предателей выявили.

[@user-pc2jp2yr3c]

This war will go on for a long time. Very sad for all those involved.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Zelinskiy is ProWar. That's why it will continue.

[@khiem1939]

Sorry Tovarisch, but President Zelensky is PRO FREEDOM, something that is unknown in Putin's Russia!@@user-cv8xw8zn5u

[@TexanIndependence]

Not THAT long, Ukraine only has about 10-20 months worth of manpower left at the current rate of casualties (180,000 in August 2023 according to the US) and they can't keep their eternally-drafted army of all males 25-to-60 forever with only 10 days leave, and spending weeks in the trenches unable to rotate. The French in WW1 had 30 days leave, only 4 days a week in the trenches, and 3 year service limits (light at the end of the tunnel) and the news that America was joining the war to keep spirits high and STILL they had half their army mutiny. The Germans with 3 year service limits also experienced severe mutinies. Ukraine has fought admirably with a 1.5 to 1 kill ratio, but they needed a 4-to-1 kill ratio (the Germans had a 4.5 to 1 kill ratio against the Russians in WW2 and still lost). It's only a matter of time until either the manpower losses or massive mutinies bring the war to an end. That's why Zelensky just declared he's banning democracy and cancelling all elections (keep in mind Iraq and South Vietnam held elections at the height of insurgenices that attacked polling places so there's no excuse) and yesterday Zelensky started yelling that anyone thinking of launching a "2nd Maidan" was a Russian agent, basically trying to pre-emptively declare any protestors against him as spies because he's clearly anticipating massive protests coming soon. It's not looking good.

[@TexanIndependence]

To clarify, Ukraine is losing such forces at a the current rate that they will lose all their reserves and start being unable to reinforce positions in about 10-20 months (I didn't mean to say they'd lose ALL their forces, just enough that they lose their ability to rotate troops or reinforce positions as needed if the Russians launch a large offensive). Possibly sooner. We are seeing Russia begin their typical winter-spring offensives. Every summer-fall is Ukraine's turn as they have favorable conditions in those seasons, while the winter favors the Russians heavily (much easier to spot enemy forces, they can cut off Ukrainian energy grid, though last year's mild winter saved things for the EU and Ukraine). Many Ukrainian leaders are fearful that Russia has been stockpiling missiles (they've been launching very few the past 6 months) to overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses in the winter. It's very likely that's the case (as Russia probably learned that's a better approach than what they did last year). If Russia can overwhelm Ukraine's energy grid, the cold Ukranian mothers and wives and daughters are very likely to get off their rears and start a massive protest in Kyiv that topples Zelensky. Hence Zelensky's warnings yesterday that a 2nd Maidan may be coming but to try to claim that any Ukrainians who protest are Russian agents might not work to silence all dissent while cancelling elections so there's no outlet for people to voice their concerns.

[@jasonpage8600]

@@TexanIndependence even if he lost an election, the courts would invalidate it because they need to be deemed fair. It cannot be fair under the circumstances making the results non legal. Zelenski doesn’t have the authority to ban elections either. In case of the war ending soon.. it’s going to depend on fighter jets and rockets.. once the threshold is met the western countries will supply heavier force artillery. That’s my guess.

[@zionbanky5415]

Great video BBC ! 👏 Keep it up!

[@benjaminjohnsonboston]

Who invaded Iraq 🇮🇶

[@DissectGibberish]

@@benjaminjohnsonboston It wasn't Ukraine...

[@benjaminjohnsonboston]

@DissectGibberish Ukraine was part

[@vecioalpin8998]

Mariupol and Bakhmut served no lessons to the clown in Kiev. this will be another disaster for ucraine. huge losses for nothing instead os retreating reorganizing and avoiding being trapped.

[@TreeLokPNW]

Bring back to daily coverage of Ukraine.

[@babblo1389]

Low-viewership.

[@josemagana2289]

Y so they can keep spreading western lies. It’s time to stop this war. All they have is elderly soldiers in the front look at it open your eyes.

[@RomanVasylenko888]

@@babblo1389 well, at least ruzzian trolls like you would be always watching ))

[@bigfishy7816]

Forgotten, no one cares 💥🔥🇺🇦😆🫵

[@RomanVasylenko888]

@@bigfishy7816 obviously you care enough to write your opinion here ))

[@j.mehnmontokpa7154]

When you guys will stop lying to the public and report the real story?

[@matthewsutphin7508]

Fyi. Ur showing the same footage from 2yrs ago

[@Karim-fo8zl]

This report is a sign that this town is falling soon. remember my words.

[@BrandyF2]

Ya ok

[@stevewake6614]

It will fall soon. It's inevitable.

[@uschurch]

Vodka fueled dreams😂

[@hamoudeallam645]

U remember bakhmut right? ;)@@uschurch

[@SAQYG]

Here is a history lession 101 for you folks!! don't poke the bear

[@user-jb7vb1hz2b]

👍👍👍🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

[@tsoihoiyat]

There are many ways to interpret the battlefield situation. If Russia really had lost so many manpower, a social revolt in Russia would be inevitable. But Russia stays rock solid. Something is not stacking up. Avdiivka can be "a stronghold defended by Ukraine", but by the flip of the coin, we can also call it a cauldron set up by the Russian force. Whichever you would believe.

[@Gg3816]

The reason why it doesn't stack up for you is in causal relationship. You assume that human lives are valuable for russians therefore lots of casualties supposed to start some revolt. It could be true for different countries but not for russia. They have archaic mentality; I can guarantee you that if tomorrow someone there would announce that they won the war, but lost let's say 5 million soldiers dead and twice as much wounded. Majority of russians would ignore deaths of their countrymen and fully focus on celebrating the victory. Most of russians cares only about themselves personally to an extreme extent and about no one else and loves those who bring a sense of importance. They still have that itch after they lost Cold War multiplied by rotted soul as a result of 70 years of communism in ussr. Putin knew it perfectly that's why he could start the war without fear of any serious protests within the country.

[@timothymckenney5023]

I don’t understand how Russia can bomb anything with no weapons or ammunition

[@boli8551]

"If you can't give me money please give me credit"😂

[@nostradamus9608]

said putin to xi... 😂

[@MRJHAYL]

​@@nostradamus9608actually it's zelensky who said that, idiot 🤡

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Zelinskiy said that.

[@mrbkreations]

"Symbol of Ukraine's existence" seems to be what is said for any other city that was about to fall.

[@ziggy8244]

I thought ukies will be swimming in Crimea beach by the end of this year...instead they are swimming with their blood in Avdiivka

[@Potaters12]

A Russian victory at Avdiivka, which is looking very likely - for me, is a real victory for Russia, more so than Bakhmut ever was. Still doesn't mean the war is by any means close to being over or is victory in any way secured - but it would certainly signal to me that momentum is firmly in Russia's hands at the moment.

[@dinayoung4797]

Gosh this is s sad 😞

[@QualeQualeson]

"The world focused on the middle east." I'd like to see that mantra analysed just a little bit. Maybe take a look at how that focus is generated, who the clickers are and so on. I don't know many in my European demographic who think that Ukraine is the lesser issue. Stagnant frontlines does not mean the absence of important events, and it certainly doesn't make russian ambition any less of a pickle.

[@debendramishra6430]

From fighting with the Russian now defending the city! I wounder how western propaganda changes dramatically with a very short period of time

[@ArahiTapsell-he8kz]

Russia will easily decimate them. I'm from Australia but Russia has proven easily how mighty they are, this reflects their leadership

[@elijahFree2000]

Mighty? What has Putin's fascist regime achieved in this war?

[@auro1986]

it's like action movie in bbc

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Entertainment

[@niblet112]

Hollywood movie make believe BS

[@issalover-qj2wt]

This genocide agains Palestinian same what happen in beiruth lebanon in 1982 when zionist killed 17.000 civilians...so the crime of zionist not new from 7th of october but from 1948 ...

[@muratilyassov9155]

this Avdiivka was used to bomb Donetsk for eight years and believe it or not, there are also people there, even more their Ukrainians.

[@user-jb7vb1hz2b]

🙏🇷🇺❤️

[@MegaGehendra]

What a human tragedy 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@khiem1939]

True, but the "inhuman" Russians don't care! Remember during the Holodomor of 1932-1933, Stalin murdered about 10 million Ukrainians by starvation, later he repopulated the Donbas with ethnic Russians....who are the PROBLEM there today!

[@Ghosts1Ghosts1]

Palestine is tragedy not this fake shit.

[@markusberzborn6346]

The United States have never been interested in human lifes.

[@fingerprint8479]

And all as a result of NATO's relentless March toward Russian borders with troops, military bases and offensive military hardware. A perfectly avoidable human calamity!

[@stalinliberator464]

Bakhmut flashbacks ))

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Zelinskiy is ProWar. That's why it will continue.

[@szczuritoo]

it's just like bakhmut, except avdiivka will fall even faster

[@DennisTheMenace-1999]

But do they condemn Hamas?

[@ConnorPritchard__1999]

relevancy?

[@Eugenetra7]

@@ConnorPritchard__1999 International law?

[@martinpankhurst2683]

What?

[@angus7278]

@@Eugenetra7It’s considered “antisemitic” nowadays to mention international law.

[@onek-productions]

@@angus7278quite the opposite. It is apparently “condemning the innocent women and children” if one is to blame Hamas.

[@joshuapaul2022]

Avdiivka is Bakhmut 2.0. Even NYT noticed in desperation: "Some American officials say the fight in Bakhmut has become something of an obsession for Mr. Zelensky and his military leaders." Bakhmut was a slaughter which was entirely Zelenskyy folly as Stalingrad was entirely Hitler's folly. Zelenskyy just for media hype wasted on average 500 troops daily (total tally was at least 51 000 KIA) in Bakhmut meat grinder even when all escape routes came under Russian fire control and this debacle turned into a sheer slaughter of Ukrainian troops. But obsessed with Bakhmut Zelenskyy didn't stop even at that. Since May 20 when Russians took Bakhmut General Syrsky (Zelenskyy minion) launched wave after wave of suicidal counterattacks failing to retake a single village near Bakhmut (parts of villages Andriivka and Kleshiivka are still controlled by Russians and it's driving Zelenskyy nuts) while wasting thousands upon thousands of hapless Ukrainian conscripts. This ongoing obsessive lunacy that makes zero military sense is simply astounding. Avdiivka is another Zelenskyy obsession . Russians established fire control over all escape routes from Avdiivka. At this point it turned into a slaughter of Ukrainian troops which are sent to Avdiivka in huge numbers (yeah, Zelenskyy and his minions are that dumb even after Bakhmut debacle). Zelenskyy is the gift that keeps on giving for Russians.

[@mojo2sapte]

Source? RT! Pashol nahuii rusky

[@user-ug6rn5si4r]

Не любишь правду? Пока в то место куда ты послал идут НАТО и нацики@@mojo2sapte

[@user-xu6vx7bh4b]

​@@mojo2sapteHe is right Zelensky is a mad man. Even his general Zaluzny knows it.

[@myckee]

Zelensky is just a puppet for the west. He's the money launderer for the Bidens.

[@wilbur948ie]

@@mojo2sapte Source from OCT14th -a lot worse now for Ukraine : KYIV, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Fighting along the northern portion of Ukraine's eastern front has "significantly worsened" in recent days, the commander of Kyiv's ground forces said on Saturday. Oleksandr Syrskyi, who was visiting Ukrainian troops in the area, said Russian forces had regrouped after suffering losses and were attacking around the village of Makiivka and towards the city of Kupiansk."The main objective of the enemy is the defeat of a grouping of our troops, the encirclement of Kupiansk and to reach the Oskil River," he said in comments carried by an official military platform.

[@rickycastorlabrada2986]

And hows avdiivka doing now?

[@NS-mz8gq]

Stop fighting and dying for someone else,Slav against Slav what a shame.

[@aqynbc]

As a dad, I feel for this man. What a waste of lives. Insanity.

[@Mortablunt]

So how much did you cry for Donetsk during the prior eight years?

[@renatsafiulin392]

The 2s35 artillery complex "Coalition-SV" has passed all the necessary tests and will soon be adopted. The su-57 fighter received a sixth generation engine with a flat nozzle with a variable thrust vector. An unmanned aerial vehicle with the S-70 index, Hunter, is expected to complete state tests this year.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

HunterBiden?

[@renatsafiulin392]

@@user-cv8xw8zn5u Definitely drugs are a big problem. And for Hunter Biden and for Vladimir Zelenskiy.

[@cikenciken]

The war is lost.

[@FFS33]

They know the russian casualties but not the ukrainian , ok.

[@gtaraya]

the fight for avdiivka is almost over

[@jonatand2045]

Any day now. I wonder if Russia afford the attrition it would take after all the attrition it took on Bakhmut.

[@gtaraya]

the ukrainians in a street interview believe so. they know more about russia.@@jonatand2045

[@heetheet75]

@@jonatand2045 "any day now" Yeah, just 2 more weeks! LOL.

[@cmrcz7550]

​@@jonatand2045it's purposeful. A dragged out war is causing the western economies to come to a point of collapse,faster

[@madgavin7568]

Yeah it like it has been since the 21st of February of 2022 when the battle began.

[@aleksandrvasyuk2030]

"What it’s like defending Avdiivka against Russian attacks " well, its like being a cannonfodder like it was in Bahmut before since there is absolutely no sense from a strategic point of view to hold Avdeevka. It’s just easier for Zelensky to lose another 30,000 Urainians as cannon fodder than to admit the loss of Avdeevka. For this reason he does not like Zaluzhny. Speaking about West, no one really cares about KIA ukranians 'cause that are just tools, spareware, to hirt Russia.

[@sentowrite4562]

its deadly

[@user-cn5mx5to4x]

The actual ending was "How many Russians can we kill before Ukraine is completely exhausted?" Instead he used different words

[@user-od1pe2ip2n]

Devil UK is falling 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

........apart

[@Ebb0Productions]

2 bots talking to each other. Amazing. Have we finally achieved AGI?

[@coshyno]

What are you ? A bot ? Anyone who doesn't tow the line of your narrative is a ''bot'' ? Do you know how childish that line of thinking is ? Do you ?@@Ebb0Productions

[@syednabi1896]

Getting everyone ready for the truth....Avdiivka already fallen!

[@larsrons7937]

➕➕ to BBC for bringing Ukraine to attention again.

[@WorldWarFiles]

Stop war now

[@kazkaskazkas8689]

To whom is your message addressed? It's like screaming "stop oil" or "stop domestic violence" - nobody who can do anything about it cares about your emotions.

[@LEOvsMAO]

Thank you for coverage and support! We are united against death and evil.

[@cccc-mj9wx]

gaza？！！

[@triola3983]

BBC, don't you think the Russian are "freedom fighters"? You know, "liberating" the Russian speakers in Ukraine... This is the way you use to describe Hamas!

[@vicdor1031]

Ukraine has already lost the war. Its manufacturing industry has been destroyed. Its population has gone down by 30 mln to less than 20 million people vs 52 million people as of 1990. A real failed state

[@kunik61]

STOP WISH MY HOMELAND TO DISAPPEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Chaldon-hl6yk]

Its manufacturing industry has been destroyed since 1991

[@user-bz8ks4bp6t]

All representatives of the Anglo-Saxon world should watch this film very carefully to see what their politicians have done with the people of Ukraine. Germany, France and Poland guaranteed a peaceful transfer of power in 2014. Citizens of these countries should also watch this film carefully to understand what these guarantees cost.

[@eugengrzondziel1706]

"The war in Ukraine will be won on the battlefield". EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy.

[@TestTest-yf1ow]

Bakhmut 2.0

[@chandaagritech77]

Ukraine is Finished

[@user-cn5mx5to4x]

The expert claims Russia would be repelled and defeated in Avdiivka

[@wedgecharger]

Why in the world was this mans family anywhere near the front ??????

[@johnyanthan8537]

Oh what have NATO and EU done to Zelensky?

[@achd73]

doctor zelensky you understand Russia doing a reconquest of land that belongs to them

[@nadiawilliams1850]

Dombas and Donezk have a right to defend themselves

[@nobbynobbs8182]

They are victims of Russian aggression. Ukraine has a right to defend itself

[@nadiawilliams1850]

@@nobbynobbs8182 they are victims of Ukraine dictator

[@nobbynobbs8182]

@@nadiawilliams1850 they are victims of Russia's dictator you simpleton/botnik

[@KONAMAN100]

And the tunnelling under the city to get Ruzzians behind Ukrainian lines, its a disaster for them.

[@samsanyang9252]

Good question cuz Ukraine can only hold on as long as it gets the help

[@goldenaye3]

Hold on to what? was it not Boris who went and stop peace talks between Russia and Ukraine this is aconflict between two brothers America and Europe should stop sending arms to Ukraine and profiting from it

[@ekothesilent9456]

You can build a gun out of thoughts and prayers. No help is coming aside from debt. Once the US realizes that Ukraine won’t be around to pay that debt, the goods stop flowing.

[@trevorsutherland5263]

Those Wagners man....they are going into the history books with Spartans, Persian Immortals, Centurions, US Marines in Pacific War, etc....

[@TheSergey1986zp]

Yes, Like hitlers soldiers.

[@omfug7148]

Tell it to Prigozhin, oh wait you can't, hahahahaha

[@niblet112]

@@TheSergey1986zpwhat the ones celebrated in Canada???

[@cosmicwanderer891]

What did US marine do in Pacific?

[@niblet112]

@@bonnie7898 yes people do care. It’s being discussed a lot on alternative media. You know those places set up with zero censorship. You seem to project a lot as you seem to be stalking me across many different KZbin comments sections. I actually think you don’t care, you don’t seem to care about a lot of things.

[@Kevjoseful]

Avdiivka is not significant?? You said that about Bakhmut...😂😂😂

[@kazkaskazkas8689]

And it wasn't important by itself. Russians were trumpeting how they would go to Kramatorsk and Sloviansk after taking Bakhmut, and how the whole Ukrainian front would collapse after this. They spent 9 or 10 months and tens of thousands of troops. They finally took it - and have not moved anywhere from there. Same will be with Avdiivka.

[@zx3215]

5:49 - the flag of the infamous "Right sector"?

[@dannygonzales7377]

This is fake news. I don’t know how you live yourself.

[@snapdragon6601]

An hour and a half to persuade one old lady to evacuate? Under artillery shells fire? Amazing. Ukraine really cares about their citizens. Every life is important.You would never see the Russian military expending that kind of time and effort to save their people. 👍🇺🇦

[@man_3782]

Are you stupid?

[@SnakeP1tPoetry]

Its called a propaganda,ever heard of it?

[@alexbukovsky4621]

So your "free" country has banned all Russian media.😄

[@coshyno]

@@SnakeP1tPoetry

[@coshyno]

@@SnakeP1tPoetry

[@trevor759]

Well this didn’t age well

[@chanimal66]

Kidnapping eldery people. How low can you go. Leave them alone.

[@tattooedteacherstas]

Support Ukraine!

[@andrejjessen7215]

Support Russia!

[@zachdillenger5468]

Avdi will be lost the russians are already enacted firecontrol on the only escape route now its just a matter of time, the battle is lost

[@sidahagarwal742]

Ukraine must speak the truth first so that we can help,they were winning but still you can't see the results.if you run out man tell us,if you need amunition tell us but if you pretend like everything is OK while your loosing we wont be able to help you

[@marlu6373]

they are not winning

[@d777b]

Truth is Ukraine IS getting ANNiHiLATED by Russia on ALL fronts!!

[@roannateminya5209]

They left marinka already

[@pattheegreat]

@0:29 Lol the soldiers are advising the old women to leave and a photographer is clicking a picture of that for PR purposes. What a shame this whole war is

[@whateverman2674]

nothing is greater than a father's love. (except for G-d's love) when that father lost his kids and wife....it hit hard.

[@Mortablunt]

So how much did you cry for Donetsk during the prior eight years?

[@nobbynobbs8182]

@@Mortablunt Russia is responsible for the violence in Donetsk prior 8 years, via terrorists like Igor Girkin (admitted by himself), nazi botnik troll

[@waynethegreat23]

I wouldn't want to leave my home either lady

[@matthewkeating-od6rl]

Great vid

[@regrees3706]

Russia does not need to use Avdiivka as a properganda prize. They just smashed a 5 month long Ukrainian offensive. Avdiivka was always a strategic objective. They were always going to try and take it. And they most likely will.

[@uschurch]

Dreams of a delusional kleptomaniac

[@angus7278]

Judging by the comments these days, the war cheerleaders have left the building.

[@TalibanAtrocities]

Judging by your picture and your appearance in said comments, I would have to disagree with that observation 🤔

[@clutteredchicagogarage2720]

Judging from the comments, Russia spends significant state resources paying trolls to post propaganda on KZbin and other western social media sites to shift opinion in the west so Russia can continue to loot and plunder Ukraine.

[@cosmicwanderer891]

I don't understand this as well. What happened to those bloodlusting Americans and westerners who were so emotional about defeating Russia and aiding Ukraine? They would gleefully celebrate when Russian civilians and soldiers would get killed and now they are nowhere to be found. Either they have accepted defeat and mentally resigned or they are changing their tunes and pretending to be pro Russia now.

[@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ]

5:50 mhhh, strange flag, I wonder what those colours mean.

[@kazkaskazkas8689]

Blood and Black Earth - it's a Ukrainian wartime flag from Ukrainian independence movement before WW2.

[@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ]

@@kazkaskazkas8689 it represents blood and soil "Blut und Boden" in German, one of the pillars of Nzi Rhetoric.

[@kazkaskazkas8689]

@@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ 1. It has nothing to do with nazis and all to do with Ukrainian independence 2. For nazi rhetoric, you need to look bo further than russian propaganda, even the literally translated "ein Folk, ein Reich, ein Führer" is often to hear 3. As of the actions of russia, there's clear analogy to Hitler's actions before WW2 (Austria, Sudetenland). Crimean Anschluß was more successful, Donbasland less so.

[@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ]

@@kazkaskazkas8689 First of all Ukraine has erected multiple Statues to Stepan Bandera, Roman Shukhevich, Dmytro Klyachkivsky and Yaroslav Stetsko. Bandera's ideology was of an ethnically pure Ukrainian state where all non Ukrainians would have been purged, this included Poles, jews and Russians. He was very antisemitic. He was Leader of the OUN that collaborated with the nzis in the Ukrainian holocaust, members of OUN also participated in Babi Yar, where thousands where killed, this is also confirmed by survivors like David Ayzemberg. He was imprisoned after his alliance with the Nzis because he declared independence without asking German permission, but lived in comfortable conditions, even being able to communicate with the outside world. During his imprisonment he wrote to Alfred Rosenberg, the Reich Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories - in his letter, he offered cooperation and stated that Ukrainian nationalists were predisposed to help the Nazis because they had been "formed in a spirit similar to National Socialist ideas". He was freed in 1944 and collaborated with the Nzis until the end of the war when he fled to West Germany. His nzi ideology had these caratheristics already before the start of the war. Roman Shukhevich was a member of the Nachtingall battalion of Nzi germany, later commanded the UPA, responsible of the Galicia-Volhynia massacre of 150k Poles and Jews. In 2016 the Parliament of Poland recongnized the massacre as genocide. He was also posthumousely awarded the highest military decorations. Dmytro Klyachkivsky was a member of the OUN close to Bandera, commander of the UPA and is regarded as one of the initatiors of the Galicia-Volhynia massacre, was his directive, issued in mid-1943, that ordered the extermination of the Polish population across the province. It reads "We should undertake the great action of the liquidation of the Polish element. As the German armies withdraw, we should take advantage of this convenient moment for liquidating the entire male population in the age from 16 up to 60 years. Villages and settlements situated next to the large forests should disappear from the face of the earth." However records show that the majority of victims were women and children. Yaroslav Stetsko, first head of the Ukrainian state. In the Proclamation of the Ukrainian state it says : "The newly formed Ukrainian state will work closely with National-Socialist Germany under the leadership of its leader Adolf Hitler which is forming a new order in Europe and the world" He also said" I insist on the extermination of the Jews and the need to adapt German methods Of exterminating Jews in Ukraine" He was one of the instigators of the Lviv pogroms. Slogans used in those pogroms include "Long live Adolf Hitler and Stepan Bandera - death to the Jews and the Communists." And "Take up your weapons, destroy the enemy: Moscow, the Hungarians, the Jews. Destroy them". The OUN's brutal methods were apparent as the "Decalogue of a Ukrainian nationalist" puts it "You will not hesitate to commit even the greatest crime, if the good of the cause demands it." Bandera and Shukhevich were awarded the title "Hero of Ukraine" by Yuschenko, the title was removed by Yanukovich. It's important to note that the "Nzification" of Ukraine started way before 2014, during Yuschenko's presidency. Many streets, parks, squares, stadiums have been renamed after these people, including a major Boulevard in Kiev, renamed to Bandera street, this road leads to Babi Yar, where thousands of jews died at the hands of Ukrainian Nzis. I genuenly want to know what Bandera did that was good?The answer is nothing. He only brought massacres and death to Ukraine and even betrayed his own nation. There are plenty of Ukrainian people that truly fought for the good of Ukraine and Bandera isn't one of them. Bandera wanted to ethnically cleanse Ukraine. Another example is the renaming of the Ternopil Stadium under Zelensky's presidency to "Bandera and Shukhevich Stadium", there were protests in Poland and Israel, but the Jewish president didn't say a word. Moreover, there is a famous interwiew with Zelensky openly saying that admiring Bandera is actually "cool". On the 25th of September 2023 Zelensky along with Trudeau gave a round of applause to Yaroslav Hunka, a Ukrainian Nzi member of the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS in the Canadian parliament. Kiev city had a vote in April 2023 where the majority voted to rename a street to "Volodymyr Kubyovich", this was later annulled after the Israeli Ambassador protested. General Zaluzhni was also seen posting pictures of himself alongside a portrait of Bandera and a bronze bust of Bandera. The flag of the UPA is red and black, it symbolizes blood and soil. "Blut und boden" is literally Nzi Rhetoric. Nzi battallions like Azov have nzi symbolism on their OFFICIAL insigna, this is different from individual soldiers using patches, they use the black sun and wolfsangel officially. Azov is part of the Ukrainian armed forces, and their projects are state finaced. There are many other Battalions apart from Azov that are famous for their extremism, one of them was the Tornado battallion, which committed so many warcrimes that it was impossibile to hide and was disbanded, although a lot of people have been freed. Azov also operates as an international organization, even organizing terrorist attacks cooridinated with foreign far right groups, one of these attacks was planned in my country and they were fortunately arrested. By the way, if you look at the Military land website, more than half of the Ukrainian formations use the OUN, UPA, or other Nzi symbolism. Other groups like the Pravy sector (Neo Nzi group) Operate as paramilitary governament proxies since their heavy involvment in the Maidan, an example of this is when they broke the easter ceasefire in 2014 and attacked a separatist checkpoint killing 3 civilians in the process. Their importance in the Maidan was aknowledged even by western media outlets like the BBC, and during an interwiew Yevhen Karas, Right Sector leader at the time confirmed that even if they were a minority during the protest, them being armed meant they were the main Force, he later stated that without them "The whole thing would have turned into a gay parade" .They are like the browshirts of the Ukrainian governament. They also recently participated in the crackdown on the Orthodox church. Other units known for their extremism and brutality are: Sich Battallion Carpathian sich C14 Kraken Battallion (Azov veterans) Misanthropic divison Aidar Battallion Dnipro-1 National corps (political party) A lot of the Ukrainian governament is made up of historical revisionists, like the ambassador to Germany that was called off because he denied the massacres of the Holocaust in Ukraine. They also make their kids sing "Our father is Bandera" at school. Or people like the Minister of education that said "Ukrainians are genetically inclined towards intellectual activity" On the 18/12/2014 a vote was held by the UN about " Combating glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism" Most countries voted yes, only 6 countries voted No, among those were the United States and Ukraine. After maidan, Poroshenko made January 1st a National holiday (Bandera's birthday) and the 14th of October (Creation of the UPA). Every jan 1st in Kiev there are massive parades that honour Bandera. This is also not mentioning the multiple titles Zelensky awarded to Right sectror members and it's leader, Kotsiubailo, or to other groups.

[@kgosisimanyana]

Tell us about the Nazi that visited canada​@@kazkaskazkas8689

[@miho978]

The USA at that time was the Guarantor without referring to internal problems with the border (for years in the future) or anything else... After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine received the world's third-largest stockpile of nuclear weapons after the United States and Russia. Kyiv inherited 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles that carried 1,272 nuclear warheads. In total, there were 2,500 units of tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine. If Ukraine were a nuclear state, everyone would talk to us differently, negotiate differently. Even if we go for this, we would have to go along a completely different path to independence!

[@JJ-3033]

5:20 it is fucked up. Look at him he sounds like he geive up, he doesn’t even know what else can they possibly need apart from end of the conflict…

[@TheSergey1986zp]

I would look to you on his please, pice of sh…t