War Thunder - CHANGES to the DAMAGE MODEL of TANKS! NO more EMPTY TANKS? ROADMAP updated!

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[@KuronaOtoko]

The concussion would be hell with autocanons

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

You wouldn't have concussion from autocannons, unless it was something like the Otomatic firing APFSDS or the 2S38.

[@swiffy7173]

​@@Ghent_HalcyonHow do you know?

[@SlyFoxl]

@@Ghent_Halcyon i may not have concussion exactly from a smaller autocannon constantly hitting me but it would fucking render me useless while it does so and id need a hot second to get back on my controls cx

[@einstein3100]

@swiffy7173 "Any hit to a crew member causes a stun effect" you wont get concussion if your crew is not hit = you got penetrated.

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

@@swiffy7173 Just taking an educated guess on how it might or would work.

[@fishbed3805]

I really want people to think carefully about this, cuz more realistic just means more annoying, because real life is never fun like a videogame.

[@aquail715]

What's never fun is shooting a tank with a big ass cannon just for the projectile to overpen and do nothing. It gets even worse when engaging a light vehicle. Stuns, concussions of crew and all that could be annoying sure but in this case i think is hard for them to make the gameplay worse than it already is

[@Blueesteel_]

That’s what the difference is between wt and other crap games… we have realistic details. If people don’t like it they can go play world of tanks

[@texasthib2029]

@@aquail715dude this feature does not need to come to the fucking game this is literally non negotiable

[@User-gx3sr]

2nd way sounds terrible, the first sounds fine. Having your optics destroyed should do something.

[@patriktoth6258]

Exactly. At least a visible crack or disabled thermal in sight view would do the trick

[@jayklink851]

Several months back, there was a Ukrainian Bradly crew that got a lot of press for destroying a modern T 90. The crew didn't have ATGMs, or the high pen AP belts, but they slowly took out their optics, cameras and other censors. The commander said he played War Thunder; that's how he learned to slowly pick apart Russian tanks.

[@Roguecjb]

@@jayklink851 The commander never said what game he learned it from unless something new about it came out.

[@mich421]

Fix the BR then think about doing the rest gaijin I'm against the implementation of noises. It's already annoying when an IFV shoots at you from the front and you can't aim because you can't see anything

[@notfinn1583]

Thanks man, I agree fix the br, no one asked for these stupid changes, light tanks are fine as they are

[@Gurubashy]

Stun effects should have been implemented a decade ago. It's just not possible to hit a target, kill the commander and loader and the gunner just rotates that target in 0.2 seconds and kills you. Same for commanders after you kill the gunner on the modern tanks. It happens so many times to me against leos and abrams, worst feeling when you get the first shot, penetrate and they just shoot back like nothing happened.

[@thiezerlira2323]

I agree with it.

[@syrez156]

It also happens with every other MBT though? Even if you're on a 3 man tank it still has that ability. It's not something to complain when every MBT on top tier has it. Either you shoot the right places or you just shoot and fuck up. I'd unironically understand it's frustating when against a Leo 2 but an Abrams? Bro.

[@Gurubashy]

@@syrez156 has the ability but it doesn't really happen on the russian and chinese tanks. So spare me this bs. If I pen you shouldn't be able to just brush it off like nothing happened, especially if I kill one of the crew and wound others.

[@PerciusLive]

2nd option sounds like cancer. Not viable at all. Especially since a lot of electronic assists aren't modelled in game that would negate/reduce that effect

[@parapat9957]

the Ariete still doesn't have the Spall liner it has IRl and that was promised by Gaijin, same with the laughtable application of it's WAR armor kit, 220mm plate made for kinetc protection and in game is just a 20mm chemical plate, it's a joke

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

Still waiting for them to finish the last roadmap, waiting for my god dam bonus for finishing a tech tree.

[@RyKaj1234]

An interesting thing would be like armour integrity, like especially auto cannons would slowly get more effective if they hit the same plate multiple times

[@CastleBravo.S]

People missing the point completely complaining about IFVs and stun when the post refers entirely about situations where u shoot a CV, Striker, 2S38... with a MBT cannon. I don't care but realistically that thing is unusable once it get hits like that anywhere

[@TonnyH21]

2nd sounds realistic but they need to do something about autocanons, idk why people dislike it very much

[@chabr1783]

The more modeled parts would be very nice and i think there should be some events like turret starts rotating in random direction after gunner is out or tank driving to random directions when driver is out... And yeah the optics would be nice change as well beacuse it would force you to use commander optics in case you guner optics are out...

[@arcroyal1258]

So crew will finally die when they get a face full of molten metal and fragments?

[@hugo8851]

Hopefully this will make a solid shot as effective as it should be.

[@Joey_Liu]

The stunning effect would be interedting

[@Fuzzybee1]

Stopping these kids from saying "first"

[@ping-bi3dm]

My hero

[@xanderwusky3001]

One thousand five houndered and first!

[@igor3723]

On a calculator you get information about new videos faster 😂

[@australiandog9338]

Or just let kids be kids 👍 😮😮

[@notfinn1583]

Isn’t that basically the same as saying first

[@lafosh7234]

Just create a bigger list of destruction animations for vehicles like more variety of ammo cook offs ..like they could do soo much to the game just focusing on that aspect

[@dergonmcdragon3161]

The people on second option is why people do not want to hear about stun mechanics is why we want to be real battles, but why people want to get rid of stun mechanics if they've been hit by arty or any other vehicles ?

[@jeffmeadows3795]

Adding more detailed “damage models” is gonna do is make Russian tanks and IFVs harder to destroy while already a 50mm APHE to the commanders coupla nukes a m60.

[@meesamkhan4767]

i swear to god they're never gonna model soviet autoloaders as part of the damage model because obviously that would make them less handheld.

[@soto1649]

they did it on some t72

[@Blueesteel_]

That’s why you hit light armor with HE rounds

[@stormn11]

Yes

[@gusty844]

The airfield must be more far away from the tank combat. At least in Top and hightier 30 km and not under 15km

[@xanderwusky3001]

I do think if they wanna make the game more realistic that’s would be cool. It’s the kinda game that benefits from as much detail as possible (battlefield for example is not) But, as things get more detailed it also gets more complex to model the damage and stuff like that. I don’t think it’s impossible to do properly, but remember hull break or at least the start of volumetric ammo? I think not doing it out of fear they will fuck it up isn’t a good reason though, say what you will about gaijin. They screwed over their players plenty of times. But it is almost certainly the single most detailed game if you keep the size of it in mind. It still has an insane potential imo and I’d be very surprised if it’s not still around in 10 more years. (The only thing I could see happening is a money grab ending the games lifespan sooner. I’m hoping they work on the gameplay some more instead of rushing out new vehicles. At least that does seem to be the plan judging by the releases lately)

[@Pridesu]

"The most realistic game" So all 3 of them.

[@thybonheng1485]

Well i believe Russian tank is still gotta eat shot like it nothing even after this change 💀

[@bakunawa6134]

yea instead of new maps and new game modes lets just make the 2s38 more broken because its clearly not broken enough in its definitely not broken br

[@SBXmonster]

Isn't this why HE and HEAT rounds exist?

[@Blueesteel_]

Exactly

[@frankerin8655]

Stun would be super annoying... especially if you would get shot by IFV like puma or 2S38.. maybe only implement it first in ground sim battles

[@dergonmcdragon3161]

No it doesn't have have you learned from video bradley from hittin off t90 ?

[@PzIV-E]

@@dergonmcdragon3161 Does that mean it would be fun and should be added? Most tank crews irl do not sit inside while they are on fire. Does that mean you should be automatically kicked from your vehicle?

[@coffeecat4506]

Can we please say on the surveys not to implement the “stun”, it sounds incredibly annoying and will ruin any type of on the move fighting

[@victorkalkowski877]

The 2nd option sounds like that stun thing world of tank players are always complain about. It sounds awful

[@dergonmcdragon3161]

No it doesn't sound awful when you've seen in real battle if you were inside tank and you hit by RPG ?

[@quan-uo5ws]

@@dergonmcdragon3161 warthunder is the most unrealistic game what even is your argument

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@quan-uo5wsargument about not being realstic Warthunder : unrealistic battles WoT That one roblox tank game

[@boomcat1337]

i dont like this stun idea..its horrible in WoT

[@Spcwes1]

These are all terrible ideas. War thunder needs so many things, so much fixed, so many things balanced and this isn’t something that is needed. Making enormous changes to things that currently work when things that are fundamentally broken get no updates is ridiculous. On going issue of them not paying attention to the people who play their game.

[@atriplex6002]

Still waiting for them to fix Russian ERA stats since kontact-5 IRL got 250mm VS APFSDS but ingame it's only 120mm ETC

[@Arcain321]

Of all the vehicles to be fixed you want high tier Russia

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@Arcain321becose whats broken with them effects everyone The abrams turret ring being broken only effects the abrams

[@Blueesteel_]

WE WANT REALISM! Ignore the cry babies

[@pederior6627]

adding more BS

[@ThePsychotic91]

All bad ideas

[@MrNPC]

GRB would be more interesting if you could only see enemies if they were within the FOV of your crews sights/vision blocks.

[@teci95]

go play world of tanks tuk tuk

[@mich421]

Have you ever tried simulator?

[@kommandantspotticusthecats1265]

Have you tried realistic and simulator matches?

[@teci95]

@@mich421 Go play Arcade and stop giving arcade suggestions to realistic battles, they are already altered enough by the likes of you. You are playing the wrong mode and don't know what you want

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

Yeah, if we wanted arcade wall hacks we would play arcade. We like grb like it is because it requires more strategy than just run forward until u see enemy markers then sit and shoot.

[@barbatoslupus4637]

Bring back tank friendly fire

[@explosivecommando9100]

For?

[@thatoneguy1741]

I’d rather not

[@chillglobe]

why? just play sim battles bro

[@mich421]

But there is on the ground simulator mode

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

I'm a German main, I definitely don't want my idiot team mates being able to kill me. Hell, it's bad enough they drive right by me without helping to repair.

[@cobra8440]

need to remove spall liners

[@texas9141]

Spall liner is fine lol If anything add more Plus spall liner isn’t game breaking They need for top tier larger maps CAS RP higher or time restrictions to middle of game or