[War Thunder Dev] Su-27 vs F-15 The Maneuver in Topgun Kill

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[@TS_Productions_Official]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKW7pKhnhtqqfq8si=Df4WZgLLqpjBU96l Hope yall guys like this Thx for coming

[@justus_invictus991]

F15 sounds like a nascar

[@greensteel9757]

It’s the sound for the su27 but once the update comes out it’ll only be for the su not the f15

[@qualitylawncare819]

​@greensteel9757 completely incorrect.

[@SeanCampbell_iRacing]

aint ever heard a v10 nascar before

[@Spicy_Italian_Sausage]

@@greensteel9757 um no its the f15...

[@jace8785]

I thought it sounded a bit like a cloaker from payday

[@r-saint]

F-15 engine sound is magnificent

[@melebenz6250]

It’s a su sound bruhhh

[@Spicy_Italian_Sausage]

@@melebenz6250 it most definitely is not...

[@huyra8019]

Man the f15 might actually suck 😅

[@fishmas]

I agree, “bouehshaivuiiqoiuIookm” goes hard AF 🥶🥶❗️❗️💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@howcanthinkman8519]

​@@melebenz6250 the f15 sounds the same, in fact a little more scary sounding kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaSrgmewhNODgpI.. the f15 sounds like a demon blue tone, while the su 27 sounds like a tie fighter...

[@sooryan_1018]

The Flanker's Rita warning the entire time is just edging me even more

[@СтепанМезенцев-х1б]

My native language is russian. Betty sounds clearer to me, she speaks faster and more accurately. For mу Betty - better.

[@sebastianfalcon948]

​@@СтепанМезенцев-х1б👍👍

[@stylishniggachannel4763]

Wdymbt

[@СтепанМезенцев-х1б]

@@stylishniggachannel4763 The message said that “edging me even more”, I commented on this phrase. I mean Betty does a better job.

[@Soarnea]

hold up what

[@City100-zj2lh]

0:04 sounded like the cloaker

[@AWACS_Eagle_Eye]

YOU CALL THIS RESISTING ARREST!? WE CALL THIS A DIFFICULTY TWEAK!

[@SU-57_PAK-FA]

For a supermaneuverable fighter this shit is hard asf

[@su-5755]

On god…. wait the only other su-57 here?

[@S_400_]

Yo wassup boys

[@su-5755]

Oh dam we got the trio in here

[@SU-57_PAK-FA]

Wait whaaaarg?

[@su-47berkut21]

Olá meus irmãos 🫡

[@loading.-.-.-.]

wwwwhhHHHOOOOOOOooooooo love the new engine sounds

[@user-bm2xf6io3c]

I wonder how many kids have searched for "the manuever in Top Gun" and found this video lol

[@kokishorttail3471]

The American f15 as it is right now in war thunder is in a pretty sad position, gaijin really did it dirty.

[@Creeper99PL]

Why so? What's wrong with it?

[@dodomark228]

T-90M: Yeah... Yeah yeah....

[@mmmmburgerz9442]

@@Creeper99PL It’s a powerhouse and they don’t treat it as such. It’s disrespectful actually considering its purpose and the work that went into it.

[@bebeto7594]

​@@mmmmburgerz9442Су-27 лучше как истребитель, ф-15 лучше в плане штурмовки, все честно

[@colRobinOlds]

​@@bebeto7594хуйня тейк.

[@Acxolotl]

kvouchers bell but what a clean kill

[@thunder7611]

will kids stop calling every maneuver they see a kvochur bell or a cobra.

[@SATORI_111]

@@thunder7611he’s right it was more of a bell than a cobra.

[@viper_7712]

@@SATORI_111 bro the su27 just has great low speed manuevering its not any special maneuever

[@thunder7611]

@@viper_7712 good point

[@bIakeee]

literally looks nothing like a kvochur's bell but ok@@SATORI_111

[@kamiskub7409]

None of this was any specific maneuver, neither bell or a cobra.

[@blessthismessss]

i am SO damn ready to tryhard in full real dogfights with this thing, in the test drive it already hits K' Bells and Kulbits easier and faster than anything ingame ive flown thus far. the amount of stomping this'll do is insane, especially with the HMD >:DDD

[@preispolnivshiysya]

how did you make it so that you have only 2 switching modes in "full control" when I have all 4, please tell me

[@Duncanois]

Commenting for the answer

[@goliath3413]

nah, he cycled through

[@HUEEY]

I was expecting something almost watchable when you put cobra and kill together in the title.

[@Pyreax865]

An actual skill issue lmao.

[@tf11o]

Let me guess, br 3.7?

[@leeworthington5015]

you say this as if he ISNT in a super maneuverable aircraft

[@vashbain3136]

noob

[@colRobinOlds]

Yep wtf was bro even trying to do. No rudder no nothing, just stalled himself right into the hud.

[@Pyreax865]

@@leeworthington5015 the F-15 wasn’t flying well or managing his energy well, that and the fact that the thrust to weight ratio and energy retention is off kinda led to that.

[@burstztx1234]

F-15 sounds like a tie fighter lol

[@Panzerfanlol]

That sound was the f15 right? That was AMAZING does the '27 have a new sound when it flies by ?

[@Null24]

Yeah, i think most jets do now

[@Miftahul_786]

Both jets have the same sounds

[@RedVRCC]

Oh shit its jailynn, i see her all the time in customs lmao. I can't wait to get the Su-27, such a beautiful plane... But alas I've only just recently gotten my first gen4, the mig-29 9-13 which is a hot steaming pile of garbage now with the fox 3s all over the place.

[@Mastermurphindor]

Next time I want to see a kill by this thing that drove against ice from the movie Titanic

[@sstg.a.swiftke.pls.]

F-15 like: do flip

[@banshee4271]

damn that spin was cool

[@DawgRiser]

This is a dev serv right? Or is the winter update out

[@Subscribeシ]

Yes its the dev server

[@DawgRiser]

@@Subscribeシ thanks

[@Subscribeシ]

@@DawgRiser no problem-

[@beenborg5431]

damn is that really what the f15 sounds like when you fly past it?

[@erice.9514]

Looked more like an Immelmann rather then a Cobra.

[@_jaegerboy_]

Who put a v10 in the F-15?

[@TS_Productions_Official]

xd

[@epicgamer6419]

This is what i wanted to see when they add the su27

[@Bibodoi]

damm, imagine blowing up that F15 with a R-73 after that cobra.

[@pensive7270]

In a dogfight with missiles there will hardly be a time the F15 won’t be preflaring with its flare count. Gonna burn at least 2-3 R73’s to get a hit in through a thick pre flare cloud as close range.

[@Chleosl]

That's what todays fighter jets making for.

[@jessiesmoak3380]

you did a barrel roll the cobra is nose up to with with a straight flight line then nose down again. all you did was a barrel roll go watch cobra maneuver videos and see the difference.

[@epicgamer6419]

Bro has better graphics than my vision

[@mohammadsab4478]

Wasnt a cobra

[@Subscribeシ]

EXACTLY BRO ITS CLICKBAIT

[@linhnguyễn-z6j1k]

why this look like the video on war thunder channel?

[@pencil_eater]

a like how he just calls it "the maneauver from top gun lmao"

[@bruman182]

Thats what a 12 year difference in tech looks like.

[@_aleda_]

12 years and the F-15 is still superior in practically every way

[@mmmmburgerz9442]

@@_aleda_ Certainly doesn’t help to have the SU-27 get its rep tarnished in combat because the Russian Government showed us it did not learn lessons from modern air campaigns. They have stand off weapons and LGBs yet insist on rocket strafing and predictable flight patterns. One got shot down by a MANPADS on Russian soil near the border at about 1,000 feet. Pilot skill and adaptability of the aircraft trumps fancy cobras any day. The SU-27 is inferior when you consider the entire picture. The Russians took 30 years to make the SU-34 combat ready and it did poorly in Ukraine with ready rate issues and 20+ shot down.

[@WigSplitters]

​@_aleda_ yeah, f15 has the better normal flight characteristics, but the su-27 should always win a dogfight. But by the time the su-27 the amraams were out so su-27 never rly had a usable advantage

[@KingMen1Force]

​@@WigSplittersFlanker came out in 85 , amraam in 91 and R77 in 94 so no diadvantage was from 91-94 .. Although modernization wise after the 90s the US should start pulling quite ahead.

[@WigSplitters]

@@KingMen1Force ahh ty for the correction.

[@bndhidorahonewhismany6436]

Poor F-15 was already beatup

[@raphaelsantiago9387]

Thats a J turn

[@gallegossaucedojuangerardo73]

What modification do I need to make my f15 sound like this?

[@znium]

thats called a pit-manuever

[@ttpechon2535]

Why is everyone calling it a cobra, it's not, the 15 tried to get the 27 to over shoot, went upside down, stalled, fell into spin.

[@Firefrab]

its a really scuffed kvochur's bell but even then not really as the plane isn't spinning round the nose

[@an_average_gamer1683]

definitely not a cobra, but closest is a Kvochur Bell maneuver

[@RJ-lg9hs]

where was the cobra?

[@blaisepascal3804]

what the hell was that turn

[@huffizz9685]

comment tu fais, pour changer le mode de visée par la souris a commande complete, et revenir sur mode a visée a la souris direct ?

[@TS_Productions_Official]

SAS mode on Control settings

[@EM3A450]

That was a half bell maneuver not a cobra

[@allenliu8820]

i hate the sound of the f15 just sounds like a turbine

[@squidle6235]

Its already out?

[@TS_Productions_Official]

dev

[@M1A2Abrams.19-9O]

They sound like Tie fighters (dont think im spelling that right lol)

[@dabighead]

why did they copy and past the mig 29 and call it the su27

[@R4FSAN]

Su27 and Mig29 were being built at the same time by USSR. Also the su27 is almost 2x bigger and much heavier than the Mig29 Su27 has 10 hardpoints for weapons while Mig29 has 6 Su27 is more of a air superiority fighter while Mig29 is more of a jack of all trades (while still being kinda trash)

[@warspitebstwaifu6453]

@@R4FSAN He's most likely talking about the FM which frankly is absolute trash on both the Su27 and Mig29

[@zettolss6540]

F-15 skill issue

[@TS_Productions_Official]

님아

[@501-notimplemented4]

not really its a brick in the dev

[@Ivnfoil]

best plane worst pilot

[@WhenDuh]

@@Ivnfoilsu 27 can carry the most missiles and the game and is the most maneuverable plane

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

​@@501-notimplemented4yeah it is a brick in dev at low speeds, just like IN REAL LIFE.

[@IZaneI]

In the West they say that gajin make Russian bias, and in the east they say that gaijin make usa bias, THIS is a game, stop arguing about whose planes are better, skills are important

[@dutch24]

Might be a bit too maneuvrable (I know, I know)

[@SSGSteelTigers]

Thats awesome

[@N-L3]

How do you get the afterburners to look like that

[@Cyktar]

bro Im sorry but this might not be a cobra

[@CactusQuade]

C L E A N

[@apolakigamingandmore6376]

Where's the Cobra? Unless you consider 0:10 as Cobra.

[@gilgamet]

sick but not badass topgun cobra

[@campsite97]

F-15 왜 버너 끄고 플랩을 폈대...? 그대로 주욱 올라가서 수직 투서클하면 수27은 선회율 모자라서 못따라가거나 아주 짧게만 사격각 나왔을텐데...

[@h2ogun26]

등 거무튀튀 한거보면 꺼진 걸 수도 있을듯

[@campsite97]

​​​@@h2ogun26 자국 보니까 연료누출같은데 이미 맞을대로 맞아서 너덜너덜한 F-15였나봄 ㅋㅋㅋ 연료 고갈로 엔진 셧다운인가벼

[@Syvern.]

​@@campsite97It's just a visual glitch. It's been a problem in custom battles for ages.

[@WigSplitters]

Dude the f15 was losing either way, don't try and get technical

[@campsite97]

​​​​@@WigSplitters 뭔소리래;; 아직 F-15의 애프터버너가 켜져있는 동안엔 이미 상승하고있는 F-15의 상승 선회율을 Su-27이 못 따라가서 강제로 퓨어 상태로 머물러 있는 게 한눈에 봐도 보이는데. 애프터버너 켠 상태로 수직 루프만 돌아도 Su-27이 죽었을 거임. F-15가 쫄보라 쓸데없는 기동을 치고 플랩까지 펴면서 에너지를 다 날려먹고, 동시에 애프터버너가 꺼지면서 날려먹은 에너지를 회복도 못 하게 되면서 선회율이 박살나니까 Su-27이 리드로 들어갈 수 있었던 것이지... 첫번째 교차에선 애초에 중립이었고, 두번째 교차에선 공격 포지션으로 들어간 것 처럼 보이지만, F-15가 투서클 제대로 돌려고 마음먹으면 Su-27이 못 따라잡는 상태였음.

[@brock6304]

is this still possible on the live?

[@Fjallkloka_Aventyr]

No cobra anywhere.

[@MaTbEbAJL]

SU27 much better than f15

[@acefofficial]

Kill ratio doesn't show it :/

[@flymons]

Yooo

[@Tyonicle]

Nice kill‼️‼️

[@greyfox78569]

F-15 isn't turn fighter it is a boom and zoom god. That is so many people are going to die in it at first until the meta learns. Go slow, and you will die.

[@xDerHunterHeli]

Fuckin Idiot... The 104-0 in real life come from it being a amazing dogfighter its meant to outturn pretty much everything for its time

[@Monarch683]

Yes but no... The F-15 is a turn fighter. It's designed for the two-circle and vertical fight. Stay close to around 250-300 knots corner speed for the max turn rate. If that doesn't work out, it's either a skill issue (literally) or Gaijin not modelling things correctly. -A DCS player

[@Armored_Ariete]

dunking on the haters

[@calebgonzalez275]

Is it possible and war thunder? Definitely. Is it possible in real life? Definitely not. But entertaining nonetheless.

[@R4FSAN]

Su27 was made to be unstable but a lot of computers make it stable. Disabling the computer kinda lets it pull turns like this at the cost of speed and stability. So irl it kinda can do these menuevers for a short time. But take everything I said with a grain of salt cuz I ain't a Sukhoi engineer.

[@TS_Productions_Official]

bb

[@zps6425]

지린다

[@CtRAlTtAb]

mid ass clip

[@Subscribeシ]

Where’s the cobra?