War Thunder - Faster Pussycat, Kill, Kill, Kill!

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[@OlavDeng2]

>finally sees war thunder video >sees im in it >MFW i get shot instantly in it xd

[@Apex_FFAK]

OlavDeng2 oof

[@espenwalm]

F

[@TheXeffx]

I'm sorry lol

[@OlavDeng2]

@@TheXeffx Considering my bad showing that match, i deserved it lmao

[@n4rut089animereviewer]

Press F to pay respect, press Alt+F4 to restart the game.

[@paulspahn4529]

"That was some of the best flying I've ever seen, right up to the point you got killed". - Jester

[@TallulahSoie]

Jester's dead!

[@TheXeffx]

Well, I wanted to go out in style

[@JohnCena-fd5yw]

it fits on many different levels

[@Luck-lb3sa]

😆

[@hancock63]

"The defense department regrets to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid."

[@DerptekofGoochland]

Missiles then: dude HEAT bro Missiles now: *THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS BECAUSE IT KNOWS WHERE IT ISN'T-*

[@SmolPotatowo]

I too, know of that reference.

[@Matthew10950]

I do not. I dont feel shame, but id still like to learn?

[@MrAnton275]

@@Matthew10950 Just google it is probably easiest, there is a video about how missiles work and how they navigate, containing that line.

[@Matthew10950]

@@MrAnton275 I will, thank you.

[@kieranthompson6731]

The gnome overlord has blessed us with another warthunder video and I look forward to storytime about F9F series of jets

[@tawn248]

Dude I'm literally gonna cry from nostalgia.

[@razor1uk610]

...Yup, nostaligic double entendres, and no Luchses involved in this faster faster video...

[@swat67ify]

YESSSSSS LOVE WHEN YOU DO WAR THUNDER. Not just because of the game, but because you always make an interesting video of any aircraft being flown

[@orin-ix3do]

War Thunder qoute I agree

[@legogenius1667]

@@derrickstorm6976 All of it is gameplay lol. Positioning and gaining the right blend of altitude and speed is important and requires actual thinking with an actual brain.

[@5000mahmud]

@@derrickstorm6976 Positioning yourself correctly is vital in War thunder.

[@swat67ify]

Jussi Raitoniemi Then why are you watching a video on a game if you spend your brainpower on “something more important than a game”?

[@SmolPotatowo]

@@derrickstorm6976 And you sure sound exciting at parties. :^) Go take your 'advanced' brain elsewhere if you didn't like it.

[@telecleez]

Aim-9 Sidewinder?: $603,817 US 20mm Shell?: $39.95 US Letting your pilots save themselves?: PRICELESS!

[@SmolPotatowo]

I mean keep in mind as to how many shells fired never actually hit anything. Though I guess the same could be said for some missiles :^) Still probably over 1000 shells fired per each actual hit or some shit. Definitely still cheaper but it'll still add up.

[@rags417]

@@SmolPotatowo 1,000 20mm rounds = around $40,000, with an average PK of even 15% the AIM-9s would cost around $3.6 million to get the same effect. The economics of 20mm still stack up.

[@SmolPotatowo]

@@rags417 You're right but how many more planes would be lost trying to maneuver to use guns? I'm really just spitballing here :^)

[@DaDwagonHK]

@@SmolPotatowo By teaching pilots how to shoot, they were also teaching them how to avoid getting shot.

[@Midland1072Productions]

Lord Jingles Sir, one minor correction, in addition to the gun pods, one variant of the phantom did get a gun. The F-4E had an internally mounted M61 20mm vulcan cannon, responsible for the only supersonic gun kill in history. This was done for all the reasons you stated.

[@hybrid_grizzly]

Midland1072 Productions And if we get a Phantom in War Thunder, it’s likely to be the F-4E because I doubt Gaijin wants to mess with missile-only fighters

[@kokadosh8763]

2 jingles video within a month. Is this a foreshadowing for more War thunder vids to come?

[@KICKASSoBASSIST]

Evil Racoon nah he just forgot that he uploaded his yearly WT video already

[@1958PonyBoy]

I sure hope so. That was classic Jingles, where he would give a detailed history of the development of the vehicle, plus some nice gameplay footage in the background. The only thing missing is the longer run time. Back in the day, his early WOT videos would run 45 min to an hour. Every now and then, I go back and replay those epic videos.

[@kokadosh8763]

*_(Insert obligatory "Who are you and what have you done to jingles!?" post)_*

[@Matsumoto77]

Evil Racoon ffs you beat me to it

[@kokadosh8763]

@@Matsumoto77 It pays to be early my guy

[@g-low6365]

i think its jingles. hes had a regression.

[@Excedrine]

F4 "Phantom". Proof positive that, given enough thrust, you can make a brick fly. :D

[@Ironhead665]

17:04 "He doesn´t have any missiles left" Jingles? Where did the missile come from with which he did shoot down the B-57? xD

[@Qardo]

Magic.

[@jcorbett9620]

They were the very rare and even more expensive "Klingon" variant of the Sidewinder, which are cloaked at all times and only reveal themselves when you fire one. Having said that, I had to slow the video down to spot the short time the missile flared as it launched, due to the closing speed of the B-57

[@ericyt7589]

i heard it, then had to go back and look for the flare when jingles mentioned "no missiles" at almost the same moment.

[@Trollman2K]

@@Qardo No, the R.550 is only on french planes.

[@shieldmate7444]

Looks like a replay bug.

[@MWSin1]

Several years later: Xeffx (F9F) shot down Sol (G2V)

[@McCrackerTheCracker]

12:18 Poor friendly B-57 couldn't get his heap off the ground and bit it in the trees.

[@GeorgePrince]

Yes I noticed..lol...

[@JoshCreepa]

Welcome to The Mighty Jingles, where we re-use already existing titles for videos because British.

[@Othurin]

By now, Star Citizen still isn't done but Roberts Space Industries have constructed a real-life, functional Aurora ship, complete with jump drive. The company now plans to develop terraforming technology to truly be capable of exploiting space.

[@malusignatius]

*"The F-4 has a certain rugged charm"* Dude, it was called the 'double ugly' for a reason... :P

[@Celebmacil]

The F-4 Phantom II: Proof that given enough thrust, you can even make a brick fly.

[@jfan4reva]

@@Celebmacil I've read some descriptions of dogfights in Vietnam, and thrust is why a lot of air crew made it back. It got a lot of Mig-17s off the tails of both F-4s and F-8s, but yeah, not optimal aero.

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

Recall this is the same fellow who likes the TOG *II...

[@malusignatius]

@@subtlewhatssubtle Lol.

[@MarkoDash]

maybe because the front of the aircraft is actually it's backside... don't believe me? here's where it's face is! i.imgur.com/P3Z5G0O.png

[@kenshirocho]

Yeah, War Thunder With The Mighty Jingle Have return finaly

[@Ash007YT]

Jingles are you okay mate? Something wrong? Another War Thunder video?? Has it been two years in the space of 2 weeks?

[@willrobb797]

Wot and wows is boring

[@TheDesertFox1940]

Will Robb nice b8 m8

[@razor1uk610]

Well he is doing his Arneheim and St.Peterburg things at the moment...

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

Even better, the next plane in the series, the F9F-9, was redesignated the F-9J. USN Aircraft name shenanigans are pretty great.

[@CountArtha]

The USN adopted the Air Force naming scheme in 1962, so the F9F became the F-9 Cougar and the F11F became the F-11 Tiger. Air Force planes were designated by type and a more or less randomly assigned number, while Navy planes were designated by type _and_ manufacturer. Grumman Aircraft Corporation was assigned the "F" code - so the first F stands for "fighter," the second F stands for Grumman, and the number in between represents how many of the company's designs had received a Navy designation. The Wildcat was Grumman's fourth fighter design (F4F), the Hellcat was their sixth (F6F), and so on. This is also why some Navy planes from World War II have multiple designations: The Avenger was the first torpedo bomber built by company "F" Grumman (TBF) and by Western Aircraft, a division of company "M" General Motors (TBM). The Corsair was the fourth fighter built Vought, which belonged to company "U" United Aircraft (F4U), but it was the third fighter built by company "A" Brewster (F3A).

[@tinglydingle]

F-4 Phantom "never had a gun" F-4E Jingles.

[@MrDgwphotos]

And the funny thing is, the F4 was originally designed with a gun, but it was ordered removed.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@MrDgwphotos Mostly on the grounds of high command going "We'll never need to use guns on fighters ever again." *hundreds of complaints from airmen stating that the air to air missiles were barely shooting down shit later* "Okay, fine! We'll give them guns!"

[@reidparker1848]

Hfar Higher command are disconnected morons, generally. I don't like that they recieve such attention from popular culture.

[@theScottishKoala]

Wow, is it really 2024 already? My how time flies when you're watching Jingles

[@darknon2683]

Now we just need a montage of jingles himself trying to land aircraft

[@legogenius1667]

What the heck? Is this becoming a regular thing now? WT PLAYERS REJOICE!

[@sickbozo8152]

we are! :)

[@legogenius1667]

@@sickbozo8152 I love the way War Thunder replays make Jingles launch into a historical discussion of some type or another, and that's something that even Jingles' WoT audience should find fascinating.

[@sickbozo8152]

@@legogenius1667 or convert them XD

[@sickbozo8152]

@@Miraak0Konahrik that depends on your perspective

[@sickbozo8152]

@@Miraak0Konahrik i meant converting from wot to wt, of course its a better game, more content, more learning of realistic ballistics etc, oh and btw, gaijin is russian, yes, wargaming is bielorussian (i think)

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

9:37 "not beautiful to look at" EXCUSE ME, but that's Heretical!

[@FroxyCz]

I would actually like more of War Thunder videos. Keep it up!

[@cjl221]

FroxyCz agrreed

[@pelimania2786]

"F4 Phantom was not particularly beautiful to look at" How dare you Jingles! The F4 has one of the most visually stimulating tail and exhausts of any jet!

[@BigBossTussBall]

Aka She got that booty

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

She also has a cute smiley face on her tail.

[@robinofloxley9192]

5:23 - 5:40 That was one *sexy* kill. Well done Xeffx!

[@tawwicky7909]

would love to see jingles do a DCS video, in a F-18 or F-14

[@romeovictor6223]

TAW wicky, idk, that’d be pretty awesome really, but does Jingles have the time, money, and patience to set it all up...?

[@buschacha]

Romeo Victor Ehh it’ll be fine. What’s the worst that could happen.

[@tawwicky7909]

@@romeovictor6223 I dont think setting it up would actually take that long, I play in VR and it took me no time to set it up with the HOTAS.

[@Castdeath]

@@romeovictor6223 He has the money and time, I just don't think he has the skills :(

[@Castdeath]

@@tawwicky7909 Which headset are you using? I imagine fully clickable models would be a nightmare in VR unless you have something very high res.

[@intoxicatedbeard9635]

Oh boy, it must be 2020 since Jingles posted another annual War Thunder video!

[@MyVanir]

Last video was 2023, so it makes this 2024.

[@thedocdodge]

When I was in the US Navy, my squadron was doing Counter-Narcotics Operations at Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico. There had been a F-4 Phantom sitting on the tarmac for weeks. One day, we were manning up for one of our E-2C Hawkeyes to launch and they started up the Phantom. Even with hearing protection on, this thing was loud as all hell! It was great!

[@RMKFfm319]

OK Jingles, what happend to you !? Two War Thunder videos in a month ? I am very pleased to see that.

[@MyVanir]

What are you talking about? The last WT video was last year, in 2023.

[@stangryn4402]

Jingles, making history fun. I love when you go off on tangents of military history during a replay (in this case the discussion of the F-4 phantom in a game with an F9F-8).

[@NJP695]

My goodness, Jingles, don’t ware yourself out with so many War thunder videos so quickly hahah .. Dang it, I only recently stopped recording my WT replays and sending them to you hahahah

[@sunshower6560]

He did shoot a missile at the B-57 by the way Jingles. Debris was what killed him when the missile struck the B-57 and imploded it.

[@cubic_regent]

jingles please do more war thunder, specificallly the air combat they have!

[@deathrooster14]

I don't know what it is about 50s jet fighters, but my God arey the gorgeous.

[@GamingPro-py8vt]

deathrooster14 I adore the look of the cougar. Went for it before the sabres because of its looks, even though it was shit before missiles and the br drop to 8.3.

[@darekter87]

Wat!? A second annual war thunder vid?

[@swat67ify]

Biannual?

[@sickbozo8152]

@@swat67ify non binary? XD

[@TheXeffx]

Oh my god, I'm famous!

[@jiaruiyan870]

Xeffx mum get the camera quick!

[@swissarmyknight4306]

Nice flying ace.

[@Matthew10950]

Good show, brother.

[@rdjmoto]

awesome job man. I just downloaded the game. and started playing or trying to learn hope 1 day i get good like you!

[@TheXeffx]

@@rdjmoto you'll get better with time

[@ACorey6910]

My favorite part about these, and the wows videos is the little history lesson. Its nice to have aviation be a part of the conversation now.

[@sawyerawr5783]

just a note Jingles--starting from the F4E variant the Phantoms got an internal gun, and the rest would often carry a centerline mounted gun pod externally. the Navy phantoms were the only ones to never be fitted with an internal gun in service.

[@zacharyharwell351]

I like how Jingles posts two WT videos within a month of each other and us Warthunder guys go "Damn, is it going to be a regular thing again?" whereas us WOT players (yes, I play both) are like "It's been 24 hours and there's no WOT video; guess he quit the game" lol I love your Warthunder videos Jingles, please oh please keep 'em coming!

[@justandy333]

I could listen to Jingles talk about anything. Im having the week from hell and for 20 minutes a day I know where to come to get instant relief from lifes troubles. Thankyou Jingles, you're doing us all a great service.

[@Depipro]

Jingles: "...War Thunder realistic battle..." Meanwhile we see a jet aircraft take off from the grass next to the tarmac.

[@razor1uk610]

CV landing capable aircraft, could operate from rough dirt or grass strips fairly well, if FOD wasn't an issue in an emergency, and their was some starter carts and maintenance/tool carts & personel around - most CV aircraft are built very tough for the catapult, landing and arrestor forces.

[@Depipro]

@@razor1uk610 Alright, so it was possible. That doesn't make it look realistic when there's a perfectly fine runway right next to the grass though. :p

[@Mythteller]

The problem with the early guided AA missiles were that they made to kill big bomber aircraft that have huge turning radius that left them vulnerable to the missile's locking target system whether it's radar or infra-red. But when it was used against nimble tight turning fighters, the target systems were not responsive enough to get a good lock to attack(more so for the infra-red than the radar variant where you have to keep the main radar pointing at the enemy fighter much longer than usual.).

[@keithplymale2374]

The original F4H/F110 was designed as a fleet defender against big Soviet naval aviation bombers attacking the carriers and in that tactical situation missiles made sense. In the late 1950's when the aircraft was first designed none of the fighting over Vietnam had happened and nobody could see that coming. The engineers at McDonald Douglas did exactly what the customer wanted.

[@robertschumacher2707]

In Vietnam, the teething problems of the missiles was only half the story. The other half is that they were supposed to be fired at beyond visual range- something that Washington then completely changed by forcing pilots to visually identify their target before firing. And by the time you could visually ID an aircraft, you were usually too close for accurate missile shots. especially with radar-guided missiles.

[@lavrentivs9891]

I remember it being mentioned (in the book 'Phoenix Squadron' by Rowland White) that 'Top Gun' wouldn't have been what it was if it wasn't for the methodical research and teaching methods of Royal Navy pilots attending the school in an exchange program. Apparently the american aviators approach to teaching was "I did this to score a MiG kill, so you should do the same", with different instructors having used different methods. The british pilots instead started by looking at the capabilities of their aircraft and went from there.

[@alifhaque9179]

After the Cougar rearms you can see that the pilot didn't bring any missiles, yet if you slow down the video at the moment when the Cougar and Canberra crash into each other, you can see a missile launch from under the left wing of the Cougar.

[@MASSspec1990]

Something else I learnt from an Australian Vietnam era pilot, you also needed to learn how to position yourself to get a reliable hit from missiles, for which learning how to manoeuvre to get a gun kill will help immensely.

[@mattsmallbones2975]

Omg! Jingles does a War Thunder video on my birthday!!! Just what I needed after finishing my A levels!! Thankyou Jingles!

[@matthewhurst6099]

That new cat has made the gnome lord lose track of time. By my count its 2070.

[@Buurmeister]

Ho-lee-shitzeniggels.. two war thunder videos!? In the same year!? Who is this and what have you done to jingels

[@Leopardmadcat]

(I can't believe I'm going to say this...) Actually Jingles, that last kill WAS with a sidewinder missile. You can see it launch and kill the B57 at 17:06. The graphics showing the loaded missiles on the wings didn't load in the replay, but they were there! That having been said I shall grab my coat and let myself out the door. :)

[@gunslingerluckytankijunky]

"GuNs WoNt Be NeEdEd In ThE MiSsLe AgE" - US air force

[@jfan4reva]

"everything that can be invented has been invented." Punch magazine - 1899 (sometimes attributed to Charles H. Duell - Commisioner of the U.S. Patent Office - 1899) "Children don't read anymore. They can't read anymore" General consensus of education experts - 1996 Harry potter books released 1997 (and you know what happened then....)

[@ChalcedonXXX]

As usual, very interesting and entertaining. One of the Dogfights episodes was devoted to Olds and his ambush of the Vietnamese MiG 21s

[@GrahamCStrouse]

Dr Evil That was an awesome episode!

[@ChalcedonXXX]

@@GrahamCStrouse It was indeed. Half their airforce of MiG 21s shot down.

[@14Ramjet]

Just this last weekend I got to see a bit of the airshow in OCMD. It was awesome seeing the Blue Angels. Definitely demonstrated how they could sneak up on ya.

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Oh yaaaas!! ALL OF THE LANDINGS WILL BE BLESSED!

[@blairrighton6270]

And to quote Brg General Robyn Olds (re; modern aviation tech VS conventional warfare) 'the age of dogfighting is done,... hmm, who were these experts prey tell? They're called missiles not hittles nice combat sequence, four kills in one minute! , seven and a half total, nicely done

[@tyson5811]

I would like to add to when the F-4 Phantom received it's guns and yes the Phantom did originally replace it's central mounted fuel tank with a gun pod and with the introduction of the E variant the Phantom had an integral 20 Vulcan Cannon and it's was from that day forward any future fighter aircraft was required to have a gun

[@MrLapidary]

Beautiful game play and thank you Jingles for not only showing it, but for the informative history of the aircraft.

[@johnmccall4528]

Speaking of guided missiles not going where they're supposed to, years ago I was playing a combat flight sim called EF2000. I was flying a ground attack mission and was using a strange type of radar guided ATG missile that you would fire and it would go way up into the stratosphere and then hang by a parachute and search for a ground target to lock on to. When it locked it would jettison it's parachute and launch off to the target. So I was flying a bit low and had fired this missile off some minutes ago and was constantly switching the camera view to the missile to see what was happening in anticipation when all of a sudden it gets a lock and flies off to destroy its target. I pull up a bit and then level off and put the jet on autopilot so that I can watch the missile hone in on and destroy its target without interruption. A minute or so later as I'm watching the missile zoom toward the ground at incredible speed and admiring the game world I see a small dot moving really fast close to the ground and I notice that the missile is following that dot and honing in on it. As the missile gets closer the dot solidifies into an aircraft, a very VERY familiar aircraft. Moments later my jet is blown to smithereens by its own missile. How, with it being a ground attack weapon and me being a jet I dunno but the whole incident was both highly amusing and very frustrating and left me scratching my head for a while.

[@Apollad2]

"Theres no danger of a Jingles landing here folks." He says during landing as the B57 that was just flown over overran the runway and was exploding from colliding with trees.

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

Mechanic: Here is your new F4 Phantom. Pilot: Hey Jon were the fuck are my 20mm cannons.

[@ThrowawayModeller]

I love these history lessons! Makes me remember old Jingles WT videos x3

[@RhapsodicXStyle07]

I'd like the attention to detail with that late Sidewinder going towards the Sun

[@jaredw9171]

What Jingles didn't mention is the failure to equip guns on fighters along with the higher farther faster design the the F-4 embodied resulted in a man by the name of John Boyd in the USAF voicing his critiques on how aircraft should be designed. He was essentially a martyr for voicing up his concerns, but ultimately the Air Force and Navy took his advice it resulted in the F-15/16/18 aircraft which were actually designed for air combat.

[@safetydoggo2721]

17:10 Ehm jingles, He actually fires a missile right as he rams the enemy plane...

[@Oh-Jay52]

why not indeed , he'll have to pay to replace it either way so may as well fire it off eh lol

[@mrjockt]

The F-4 Phantom, proof that if you put big enough engines on a grand piano it’ll fly. It seems strange that when it was the U.S.N. that made such a big thing about improving air to air combat yet they never adopted a version of the Phantom with a built in gun even after they became available.

[@drrocketman7794]

When you have a rocket powered whatever, that spectacularly malfunctions, and tears itself apart (which is possible with an air-to-air missile), it's called a RUD. Acronym for Rapid Unexpected Disassembly.

[@Platinumsniper]

I loved the F9F series and ground it out five years ago and when they finally added the cougar it was mine the day it was added. I used to love flying my Panthers and cougars against migs and CLs

[@JohnCBobcat]

Point of interest, Jingles: The US Navy's variants of the F-4 Phantom II (F-4B, F-4J, F-4N, F-4S) never had a gun. Whether they used a podded M-61 20mm Vulcan for any air-to-air kills might be worth investigation, though. The Wikipedia article on the M61, for what that's worth, mentions that the external pods had a reputation for inaccuracy, and the list of air-to-air kills involving the M61's use in Vietnam only mentions 3 using podded M61, both from USAF pre-integral-gun models of the Phantom II (specifically, two MiG-17s by F-4C firing the SUU-16 in 1967 and one MiG-21 by F-4D firing the SUU-23 on 24 October 1967).

[@TheFreaker86]

30mm? Who else has now a particular BRRRRT in mind? 😝

[@Castdeath]

DUCK?

[@yowaddup5649]

GAU-8: did someone say my name?

[@stef54DE]

This was only half a Warthunder video! It doesn't matter how many you bring - i want my dose of dystopian vision of the future with it, dang it :)

[@ThatOneIsaac]

"as a direct result of the 'Ault Report', on the third of March, 1969, at Naval Air Station Miramar-" *TOPGUN ANTHEM DROWNS OUT ANYTHING ELSE SAID*

[@Hazar_Deus]

the gnome overlord himself said that guided missiles "most of the time they did tend to go more or less in the general direction of whatever it was they SWORE they locked on to"... i guess missiles are sentient after all...

[@1958PonyBoy]

I'm glad that Jingles has gone back to doing reviews in his videos. That's what kinda drew me in to begin with.

[@Vnx]

To be fair, as I understand it the F-4 was originally meant as a fleet-defense interceptor, to be loaded with missiles, scrambled from carriers, and used to shoot down Soviet bombers. Not as much need for guns in that scenario. At least one of its contemporaries, the F-8 Crusader, did in fact have four 20mm cannons as its primary armament. But statistically it relied a lot on the same Sidewinders as the Phantom, as the guns were prone to jamming if fired while the craft was under high G stresses. Which tend to be common in air combat close enough to necessitate a gun in the first place.

[@miltonpasley3398]

Don't know about the cost of a 20mm but the 30mm round of the GAU-8/A Gatling-style autocannon in the A-10 Thunderbolt II originally cost between $3-$4 each. Don't know the cost of a Sidewinder but based on the price of a Hellfire you could fire the GAU-8/A for several minutes for less.

[@planenerd9079]

I would love more war thunder videos from ya specifically for the history lesson from each video :). although commentary is fun too!

[@joedomingez77]

Great video and commentary!

[@Wolfeson28]

14:15 After the Navy implemented the FWS, the difference was so dramatic that the North Vietnamese Air Force commanders finally just told their pilots: "Don't dogfight with the grey Phantoms (USN). Only dogfight with the camouflage Phantoms (USAF)." The USAF would eventually go on to implement their own version of the FWS, called Red Flag, in 1975.

[@Qardo]

Just like any Cougar. She's a man-eater. What? You thought I was talking about the cat? You are crazy!

[@razor1uk610]

..She ain't no sabre toothless tiger yet!

[@danmallery9142]

Well, to be fair to McDonnell Douglas, they designed the F-4 without guns because that was not part of the Navy's Request for Proposal. It was to be an all weather interceptor and the doctrine at the time was that guns were no longer needed.

[@rockyman3337]

I just had one of the most amazing games in wows in the tier 3 American destroyer the wickes. 8 kills 70k damage and 4 awards, confederate, solo survivor, high caliber and the kracken unleashed. I just wish I was recording when that happened.

[@darthkarl99]

another problerm the US had over vietnam was that pilots where expected to confirm an aircraft was hostile before they started shooting. This severely limited their ability to actually use their guided missles. The Sparrow was in service at the time but was functionally unusable because by the time you could see the target clearly enough you where too close to use them.

[@CharlieNoodles]

Ah yes the F4s infamous gunpod. There’s video footage of these things in action on YT and they were hilariously inaccurate due to the vibration from the gun itself causing the thing to oscillate wildly whenever it was fired. They eventually “solved” the problem by doing what they should have done in the first place and equipping all subsequent variants of the F4 with an internal gun.

[@tuppytheducky]

thank you for the interesting history lesson to accompany the gameplay, it is precisely videos like this that keep me watching, even if it is about games I'm not interested in anymore (world of tanks), so please, never change, and never stop (also please can you let my wife and kids return from the lowest levels of the salt mines, I haven't seen them in weeks)

[@TankMarshal]

Damn i have missed this kind of content on your channel. Keep the excellent work up!

[@wolfsruhm]

Actuallz Jingles, Fox two is the fireing designition for semi guided radar missles like the sparrow. For heatseakers you ought to call out Fox one.

[@Rebar77_real]

Love the history. Skills looked impressive but for all we know it was like Circon walking into a random tomato battle.

[@torvamessor3059]

funny how i have been recently flying MY cougar and lo and behold jingles posts a YT vid of a cougar replay :P

[@Enrael01]

It was a missile kill at the end. Tracker shows “fire arrow” at 17:11 jingles

[@bobvulture6547]

Hi Jingles! Missile effectiveness was also reduced in Viet Nam by the ROE that stipulated that US pilots had to have visual identification of a target before engaging it. So much for Beyond Visual Range weapons!

[@1958PonyBoy]

Yeah, early air to air missiles were kinda like early naval torpedoes. They sometimes were more dangerous to the ship that fired them than the ship they were being fired at.

[@s.scottstaten1852]

The Air Force F4-E Phantom came with a 20mm cannon in the nose. the earlier Naval versions did not have a gun.

[@scottwright236]

USAF F-4 Phantom, proof to the world that with big enough engines even a brick could fly >.< . And know because I worked on those engines at RAF Alconbury.

[@jamatheo]

Gotta appreciate "Jingles' Take-off" - parallel to the runway, but not quite on it.

[@SamK-vk7kb]

Because we're talking about planes - Fun Fact: My (Triple) IGCSE Chemistry Paper 2 exam had an entire question based around the *Me162 Komet* (Yes the little rocket powered aircraft designed by the nazis)! Not to mention the first paper had a question regarding the *Hindenburg* (or similar airship) with visible swastikas on the tail :)

[@huntingfox3351]

"And also he doesn't have any missiles!" As the Cougar fires off a missile into the B-57B killing them both...

[@duvagr007]

If you look as he's taking off from the airfield, and flying towards the B-57, there are no missiles under his wings. Just the hard points they mount to. Jingles, rather out of character, got it right this time.

[@cjl1w4g27]

@@duvagr007 Must be a replay bug, looks like a missile to me

[@duvagr007]

@@cjl1w4g27 Yep, I see it now. I stand corrected.

[@huntingfox3351]

@@duvagr007 The replay did not load them in, if you look at the moment where he kills the last guy, frame by frame, you can see that a missile is actually fired off, and it hits and kills the B-57, and in the explosion the Cougar also get's shot down

[@cjl221]

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