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Slope's Game Room (Video Game Documentaries)

Slope's Game Room (Video Game Documentaries)

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@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
A huge huge thank you to all of my supporters who are helping the channel. If you want to see this (and whatever is coming next) the plan is to eventually get all supportrs 6 videos ahead of the public. Then please do sign up here 💕 Patreon: bit.ly/37yWxjx 💞 KZbin Member: bit.ly/313TGg3
@Irobert1115HD
@Irobert1115HD Жыл бұрын
honestly a list of all the songs used in this video would be nice to have. i would like to know the name of the song that plays between 1:22 and 1:30.
@paulofrota3958
@paulofrota3958 Жыл бұрын
A huge TANK you...?
@Protoraptor69
@Protoraptor69 Жыл бұрын
How you bin ol' friend? Love your content but You-Tube never recommends me any.
@Protoraptor69
@Protoraptor69 Жыл бұрын
@@paulofrota3958 Nice one dude. Have a great week. From me. For FREE!
@darugdawg2453
@darugdawg2453 Жыл бұрын
im going to be fuking honest here. the root problem of this is because the devs are doing a propaganda for russia. they are promoting russian tanks and planes as very good compared to the tank it faces. people woudnt leak shit if gaijin balance the fuking game and say its not realistic. fuking coksuker
@MSinistrari
@MSinistrari Жыл бұрын
With all I've heard about the War Thunder forums, I'm convinced if we ever wanted true unquestionable proof of UFOs/Aliens it would be for the devs to put one in game and someone would want to prove them inaccurate.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
And here are the blueprints to the UFO
@toopink4death492
@toopink4death492 Жыл бұрын
Jokes on you that was an april fools event years ago.
@blindsniper35
@blindsniper35 Жыл бұрын
​@@toopink4death492oh so we have conclusive proof governments have no evidence of aliens, Cool
@LEWTSPEC
@LEWTSPEC Жыл бұрын
​@toopink4death492 but that game mode was fun and didn't have a grind that takes 9 years
@toopink4death492
@toopink4death492 Жыл бұрын
@@LEWTSPEC That's the greatest part about it.
@angrytheclown801
@angrytheclown801 Жыл бұрын
As a collector of military handbooks (strictly declassified and released to the public by the military itself), I find this sad but hillarious at the same time.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Жыл бұрын
​@@slopesgameroom we need T14 tank docs to make lazerpig silent
@perkaperkins01
@perkaperkins01 Жыл бұрын
​@@carkawalakhatulistiwathe videos of that guy are funny but man he really escalated that debate about the T14 armata into a shitty drama
@SpindlerMatthias
@SpindlerMatthias 7 ай бұрын
​@@carkawalakhatulistiwaor probably rather to prove him right 😂
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 Жыл бұрын
I kinda feel bad for the devs tbh. They keep asking their community to stop because they don't want to be involved in this kinda stuff for obvious reasons but it just keeps happening.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
6 times this year so far
@del7896
@del7896 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if they love the popularity, though. Gaijin are Russian (nominally Hungarian nowadays) and I believe they have been involved in some scandals involving their country of origin, so it's not impossible to believe that any document leaks would find their way to relevant organisations. Of course, once it goes on the internet, it doesn't matter who owns the forum, and if Russian equipment info leaks, that's not great for them either.
@CountScarlioni
@CountScarlioni Жыл бұрын
@@del7896 If they're in Hungary now then they're lucky. Had they still been in Russia, there'd be plenty of 8th storey windows just waiting for War Thunder's management to accidentally fall through if Russian military leaks appeared on their forums.
@helvete983
@helvete983 Жыл бұрын
I hope the devs are releasing all the information they have about the idiots leaking this information to the relevant The fact these people are so pathetic they are willing to risk real lives to win a frigging argument over the internet is sad.
@shadowconquer-yv5yd
@shadowconquer-yv5yd Жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad to the snail (Gaijin)!! They refuse to fix their junky volumetric that results to russian bias. It took a campaign of review bombing just to fix or force them to fix the economy. Overall, it actually increased their player base with me being a victim.
@Jofe000
@Jofe000 Жыл бұрын
In a certain way this is hilarious, imagine wanting to win an internet argument so hard that commit a crime. And so I can't avoid to laugh at that meme of "0 days since classified information has been leaked on the War Thunder forums. On the company side, I find it hard for them to do anything else besides saying how much they don't approve and don't use this and removing any thread with classified information.
@Ranmus
@Ranmus Жыл бұрын
It's like that one moron who put state secrets on his discord just to prove that he could and win an argument...
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
It's such a bizarre situation tbh
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo Жыл бұрын
Yes. It's not their fault. The problem is the guys in the know are so self absorbed they ended up doing that because they want to always be right.
@Keirnoth
@Keirnoth Жыл бұрын
This is an average day on /b/ on 4chan.
@Sniperbear13
@Sniperbear13 Жыл бұрын
its a case of people wanting to be objectively right. no one wants to be wrong, and those with less brain cells tend to want to win a argument at any cost. so much so they don't think about the consequences of their actions.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Жыл бұрын
It makes more sense that he'd be an engineer because he'd have more reason to be so angry that he'd leak classified documents and he probably kept it a secret to hide the obvious bias as a commander would have less of a reason to care on such a level.
@blueshark7385
@blueshark7385 Жыл бұрын
Most of the classified documents leaks for aircraft so far this year (F-15E Strike Eagle, Su-57, Typhoon DA7, and F-117 Nighthawk) were about aircraft that are not even in the game. After this video was uploaded there have been two more forum posts showing restricted documents, one for the F-117 Nighthawk on September 12th, and one for the AH-64 Apache on September 15th. It's highly likely that there will be more this year.
@777SilverPhoenix777
@777SilverPhoenix777 Жыл бұрын
might be time to just shut the damn forums down
@kunaukedi4850
@kunaukedi4850 Жыл бұрын
@@777SilverPhoenix777 The leaked documents that were leaked this year arent even classified documents lol. theyre declassified but restricted from export out of NATO. It doesnt help that gaijin is a russian company tho. The documents leaked recently arent as detailed as the challenger 2 leak and type 99
@gildedphoenix
@gildedphoenix Жыл бұрын
Also DA7 is now even in production yet, it's still a fuckin prototype. A FUCKING PROTOTYPE
@arandomcommenter0135
@arandomcommenter0135 10 ай бұрын
Laughs in M2A2
@tipulsar85
@tipulsar85 Жыл бұрын
When you hear this type of story for either War Thunder or World of Tanks Multiple times, it starts becoming "Why the bloody hell are they leaking classified tech details?"
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
It's so bizaree
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Жыл бұрын
Minecraft Discord was the original source for Teixeira leaks... and unlike the 6 bucks manual recently leaked on WT that was not classified and just, at worst, a pirated book shared for free, the leaks on Ukrainian air defense ended up killing civilians. I seen debris and corpses moved away from the house across my window a week into May, my district got bombed because Jack Teixeira leaked a classified briefing that shown us running out of anti air defenses by May 2023 and where EVERY big system is located. Then McDonalds and University hit in the same city... That killed people. Pointing to weak points in air defense murders civilians. Always.
@faasnuhind8578
@faasnuhind8578 Жыл бұрын
It's to argue with the devs and other players about the actual specs, ie the T-34 being so good in game, despite public documents showing it wasn't great, it's specs were released, yet Gaijin refuses to fix it. And that they supposedly have classified documents saying how good it was in WWII. They also just want the clout of they were right.
@staticaleel5068
@staticaleel5068 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, getting mad at the T-34 being too good in game is something to be annoyed about, but When the country the company works out of makes it literally illegal to “discredit the competence of the armed forces” including that of the WW2 red army, I can’t be too mad at them for having a noticable Russian bias in places.
@guron246
@guron246 Жыл бұрын
In Ukraine we call this with the term: Informational Psychological Operation.
@Technology-Repair-Proto
@Technology-Repair-Proto Жыл бұрын
Putting many peoples' lives at risk to win an argument, on the internet no less, is peak pettiness and hubris. Also, the devs have my sympathy, as it sounds like a nightmare trying to keep this all under control. Having government agencies and national security breathing down your neck is not something I envy in the slightest.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
It's gotta be tough
@staticaleel5068
@staticaleel5068 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is the main reason why I wish war thunder never tried modern vehicles. Cold War sure why not, but current vehicles in service still??? Recipe for disaster, and even then, likely untouchable to most players given the sheer grind needed to reach that tier in game.
@zedriver7678
@zedriver7678 Жыл бұрын
Is finni tho
@raidenpz
@raidenpz Жыл бұрын
If you're so concerned go protest against your country's military if they're currently sending people to kill and be killed for nothing.
@thunderhammerx2966
@thunderhammerx2966 Жыл бұрын
"common weak point on every tank" = " totally secret"
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Aparently a lot better these days. A found an official army video talking about but not saying how it works as that's "top secret" lol
@Rexhunterj
@Rexhunterj Жыл бұрын
The spot may be common but every nation builds their tanks in a different shape and configuration, some address the mantlet weakness with new armour composites and sheets for example, it might still be a weak point but you'd need to know what angle, how high and how far you can hit said spot for any effect.
@davidanttila9305
@davidanttila9305 Жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering why War Thunder and other games won't use classified Documents or even risk using Documents claiming to de declassified without checking first. Is if the Documents is real and Classified and they use them in their game it pits the game developers at risk of beig persecuted for treason or the game getting put in the cross hairs of a Government. Im honestly surprised War Thunder with this problem even allows images or links to be posted on their official forum.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Жыл бұрын
Why the F would a russian dev arrest someone who leaks western docs TO RUSSIA for treason? They might reward them, not punish. US might. Jack Teixeira was arrested. OVER A YEAR after he started stealing American secrets. Trump is still free tho he at least only betrayed USA, and not leaked Ukrainian air defense map.
@johnnytrigger300
@johnnytrigger300 Жыл бұрын
The challenger mantlet was a declassified piece of information, he didnt doctor it, but the tank was still classified
@kb1qzh
@kb1qzh Жыл бұрын
And I was expecting a game dev cash grab...
@farcry223
@farcry223 Жыл бұрын
Honestly same.
@TinchoX
@TinchoX Жыл бұрын
And to think I wasted hundreds of hours in this game to end up bitter as it went full cash-grab mode on me... 😑
@piscessoedroen
@piscessoedroen Жыл бұрын
thankfully they seem to finally wanna try a more customer friendly strategy. whether out of shame, goodwill, or simply because they're bored and have squeezed enough porjected money from cashgrab method we won't know
@damio6865
@damio6865 Жыл бұрын
@@TinchoXhow so
@colinwalker6804
@colinwalker6804 Жыл бұрын
@@damio6865until a LITERAL PLAYER REVOLT AND MONTHS LONG REVIEW BOMBING CAMPAIGN, the game was becoming so large and grindy where even average play performance was often punished with little research progress and a punishing economy. Basically they balanced the game progression system and economy on the top 10% of players and if you weren’t then you either had to pay up or spend months-years grinding, by which time the previous best vehicles were already long outdated in the meta. I too was disillusioned for a while and while I’ve tepidly returned, I can no longer bring myself to grind, only doing so to be with friends who are still grinding and appreciating the massive quality of life and economy changes that recently happened. Things are better now, and the developer roadmap seems to imply things will continue to get better for a bit, but for a while it felt less like a game and more like a job.
@TJTheEmperor
@TJTheEmperor Жыл бұрын
Hearing The Offspring's The Kids Aren't Alright open the video wasn't a choice I was expecting, but as a longtime fan of the band, I definitely appreciated its inclusion. Kick ass work as always Slope!
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Cheers bud. Love a bit of offspring :D
@wingleburt3146
@wingleburt3146 Жыл бұрын
I always think it sounds like omd electricity
@DiabolikalRA
@DiabolikalRA Жыл бұрын
Made me bust out Americana again 🤘
@lendrigangames
@lendrigangames Жыл бұрын
The worst thing Gaijin could do would be to give the vehicles' real-life enemies the chance to drive around a 100% accurate version.
@aceofswords1725
@aceofswords1725 Жыл бұрын
Or the best... depending how you look at it. ARMA series was and is used by militaries for infantry training...
@keithmichael112
@keithmichael112 Жыл бұрын
could you imagine being a guy in a trench seeing the first tank coming up over the top towards you? that was a bad day
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure. All quiet on the western front recreates this scene.... it's horrific
@blunderingfool
@blunderingfool Жыл бұрын
The germans probably knew we had tanks... hot water vessels. The term "tank" was a codeword for the Mk1 Landship. :P
@keithmichael112
@keithmichael112 Жыл бұрын
@@blunderingfool that's cool, I've never heard that one. thanks
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Жыл бұрын
The only tank I'm personally even remotely familiar with is the M4 Sherman, which I instantly recognized as what Howard Stark modified into his HYDRA Stomper armor in the MCU adaptation of Marvel What If?
@777SilverPhoenix777
@777SilverPhoenix777 Жыл бұрын
Really the game shouldn't have currently used tanks period. these issues wouldn't exist of everything was older tech like the Sherman.
@DewthWish
@DewthWish Жыл бұрын
@@777SilverPhoenix777 shut up
@krypton1260
@krypton1260 Жыл бұрын
Leaking classified documents is the least of the problems with War Thunder. Predatory monetization, pay to win mechanics, loot boxes, poor game and map design, the in-game messaging systems run on IRC... The game is almost a scam.
@anonimosu7425
@anonimosu7425 Жыл бұрын
less scammy than world of tanks
@subjectc7505
@subjectc7505 Жыл бұрын
Leaking documents are more of a concern than people's bad financial choices. People can take these documents, sell them on the Black market or use them for their own benefit. Not like Russia needs them, because they're already capable of destroying Western tanks, but someone like North Korea would love a juicy Challenger or F-22 document.
@showcase0525
@showcase0525 Жыл бұрын
You would think that a Tank engineer has more standing than a tank commander on the engineering of a tank. But thats just a guess.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Yeah, why would you ever lie about that
@Atomicallyawesome.
@Atomicallyawesome. Жыл бұрын
Apache manual just got leaked, one more for the collection.
@SmokieMcShatter
@SmokieMcShatter Жыл бұрын
They owe me an F4 phantom for the US I bought it and never received it, they said wasn't their fault and I had to trouble shoot with third party😂😂 I'm still pissed nvr got to jet around
@GoRideLP
@GoRideLP Жыл бұрын
yea the best thing about these 2023 leaks is that 4 out of 6 planes that got their documents leaked arent even in the game
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me a lot of the Unidan situation, where a guy on Reddit goes off the rails trying to school people about his otaku-like obsession (in Unidan's case, birds) and resulting in their life being ruined (although Unidan's biggest crime was using sock-puppet accounts to boost his Reddit karma, not sharing military secrets on the internet).
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's kind of a big no no
@TheGraySeed
@TheGraySeed Жыл бұрын
The thing is that providing documents related to these vehicles on these change request was actually encouraged by Gaijin albeit it was at the time when War Thunder were still stuck in WW2 and Post-War era where pretty much everything about vehicles about those era are just declassified so they are safe to be shared around. The problem rises when War Thunder starts to get more and more modern vehicles, we get Gen 2 IR sight, Laser Rangefinder, SACLOS ATGMs, BVR AAMs, etc. and set of new classification like IFVs and MBTs abandoning WW2 armored vehicle classification (though the stat card still calls them Light Tank and Heavy tank). Some people still follows Gaijin encouragement to post documents on them unaware to the fact that they are literally commiting high treason. With this, Gaijin are free to put Stalinium/Putinium on every Soviet/Russian vehicles which are still in service.
@Choralone422
@Choralone422 Жыл бұрын
Going back to the BBS and early internet Usenet days people have an extremely long history of posting information that they shouldn't in order to win online arguments. It's one big reason why in my own IT career I kept most online forums and the like at arms length while I was doing work for the US military & Fortune 100 companies in the 2000s and 2010s. Even now I only participate in online game forums for games are not set in the real world in any meaningful way.
@ares5111
@ares5111 Жыл бұрын
This month Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk was leaked too.
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 Жыл бұрын
War Thunder is that game that claims to be a sim, but falls flat on the realism front, resulting in fanboys trying to push the devs to "fix" the supposed inaccuracies, not realizing that those inaccuracies are there by design.
@silmarian
@silmarian Жыл бұрын
I used to play a lot of War Thunder, and a lot of the players are foamer rivet counters who get so obsessed about the game that they stop having fun but can’t stop playing. It leads to a lot of really weird situations and cognitive dissonance. (Also their not-so-micro transaction strategy is really good at triggering the sunk cost fallacy, it’s really devious.)
@Keyboard_Thoughts
@Keyboard_Thoughts Жыл бұрын
The dude who posted classified Chinese documents got executed
@2wdr5
@2wdr5 Жыл бұрын
Receipt?
@princessolmeca2933
@princessolmeca2933 Жыл бұрын
Oh, my freaking Lord, this is absurdly hilarious in the most tragic way possible. Imagine being so petty that winning points in an Internet argument comes at the expense of committing a crime and potentially putting thousands of people's lives at risk. I don't know how I'd be able to sleep at night if this happened to me.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Yeah... but he won the argument! :S
@princessolmeca2933
@princessolmeca2933 Жыл бұрын
@@slopesgameroom Fair enough. But at what cost, though? At what cost?! 🤣
@akkristor
@akkristor Жыл бұрын
Damnit, i came here to learn about the 35th time classified secrets were leaked due to an online game, not be smacked in the face by 90s nostalgia with The Kids Aren't Alright.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
My bad :P
@ulliulli
@ulliulli Жыл бұрын
Technically, the last bit with Anton claiming, that they will never use these infos IS INCORRECT. Someone posted classified informations about the Type DTC10-125 shell. Which was of course deleted. but a few weeks later this sabot round was found in the most modern chinese tank in War Thunder.
@MrSedsone
@MrSedsone Жыл бұрын
The shell itself was already on the game's test/development server, by the time it got leaked. The apparent reason for the leak, was to show that the game has wrong stats for it.
@chrisovak
@chrisovak Жыл бұрын
Not sure if the video was uploaded as 720 as the max or KZbin just hasn't made the 1080 version available yet. Gonna wait and see if 1080 is available a lil later before watching the full video because apparently I'm a resolution snob now 😅
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
That's weird... it should be 1080 hmmmm thanks for pointing this out I will keep an eye on it too
@breadgetter9371
@breadgetter9371 Жыл бұрын
11:32 you are talking about the French leclerc but you show the challenger?
@feraltrafficcone4483
@feraltrafficcone4483 Жыл бұрын
Fun part is that two or three more have happened since
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot Жыл бұрын
It's so sad to me that world of tanks and warthunder are basically the only places for people into tanks. Both have just become such awful pay to win monetization schemes skinned with tanks it hurts. Marketing dark patterns are their corporate bibles.
@gurumagoo
@gurumagoo Жыл бұрын
Predictably, the Russian game developers have incorporated an enormous amount of bias for the Russian tech trees into the game. This was proven a few years ago by examination of the games hard code. Russian vehicles have all kinds of hidden modifiers to make them more competitive, like anti-spalling modifiers, angle penetration modifiers, and all kinds of kidden tweaks that make them both more survivable and more deadly. The games volumetric damage system seems custom made to favor Russian vehicles. In the air, their aircraft climb faster, turn tighter, and lose energy slower than they did historically. I've played the game since 2014, and it's always been like that. Currently, Russian vehicles completely dominate top-tier gameplay. This has become even more egregious since the war in Ukraine began. As always, politics and Russians, are completely inseparable.
@Nossieuk
@Nossieuk Жыл бұрын
That idea abiyt gaijin and Wargaming only using unclassified docs - is BS - they update them all the time to 'balance' them out. - it's a game at the end of the day.
@rhawkas2637
@rhawkas2637 Жыл бұрын
There was (unsurprisingly) yet another leak (for the F-117 Nighthawk this time) on War Thunder forums right around the time this video was posted.
@ALL_that_ENDS
@ALL_that_ENDS Жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your new videos, they're always so thoughtfully researched and entertainingly performed, bringing my well being in absolute bliss. Thanks chum
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much buddy :D
@M4V3RiCkU235
@M4V3RiCkU235 Жыл бұрын
Ruzzia: How to find out about classified military equipment - Make a game with nice "toys". Makes everyone play it. Make Ruzzia super OP. Rant! Some passionate dude posts classified information just to prove is right. Jackpot! BTW: +1 for the RedAlert music. It was always about sovie... I mean Ruzzia.
@moeheil8839
@moeheil8839 Жыл бұрын
But did that challenger 2 guy win the argument? You know, the important part
@LianaSunburster
@LianaSunburster Жыл бұрын
Oooh, didn't expect a bit of The Offspring in this video, good choice 🤘
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
One of my faves for sure :D
@ProjectSh4dow
@ProjectSh4dow Жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite artists!
@bluecarbon32
@bluecarbon32 Жыл бұрын
I was looking specifically for a comment about the music. Yes, great choice. It fit really well.
@thewarroom1944
@thewarroom1944 Жыл бұрын
As for the leaks this year, it’s hilarious that there have been leaks for the Eagle, Felon, and Typhoon considering none of them are in game. The F-16 and MiG-29 were added recently and the MiG-21 has been in game for a long time. I don’t know what’s left for to remain classified about the MiG-21 since it’s been in service for about 60 years and is likely going to leave active service soon.
@NcWcN1
@NcWcN1 Жыл бұрын
1:37 the Costa Rica national anthem? 😲 But we abolished our army back in 1948!
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Well spotted mate. That was actually taken from a royalty free music library. I had no idea it was the national anthem until after it uploaded
@beachside1
@beachside1 Жыл бұрын
Im sure Gaijin is against knowing its stats and weaknesses. The Russian federation right now is probably not saying please make them stop sending us info about our enemy's tanks lol
@rahrah5091
@rahrah5091 11 ай бұрын
Why would anyone leak the aircraft spec's in war thunder. The flight system and game play is shit ( for planes).
@stijnVDA1994
@stijnVDA1994 Жыл бұрын
Uh two slight corrections; 1. The challenger 2 is basicly nearly fully retired from brittish service, and the ukraines are the only country that still has it in service.. 2. It's not as good as the leopard or abrams since in ukraine these are the ones being destroyed much more easily and having the biggest risk of having the ammunition killing the tank crew since both the leopard and abrams have a separate section for the ammunition with blowout panels making the crews safe from ammunition hits. Also there are tanks of wich are still classified in warthunder thus you need to check your sources a bit closer..
@stijnVDA1994
@stijnVDA1994 Жыл бұрын
Honestly what is worse is the game doesn't even work right actually not looking at the tank phisics but rather looking at the servers that do not work and maps being over reused wich aren't really good at all. And then there is the disappearing round round bug
@Vojira
@Vojira Жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about this game so I was just sitting here, waiting for the reveal and the "Oh my god" that left my mouth at 5:35 was one of immense disbelief
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Жыл бұрын
3:59 😅😂is just normal tank get destroy by mine
@meligoth
@meligoth Жыл бұрын
As a veteran, any weapon or platform is only as good as the sum of its parts which includes the people using the weapon to the maintenance folk that keeps it in top shape. The first argument about a weapon ive heard was the AK-47 vs M-16 debate., and boy the AK simps was a sight to behold.
@Alexthedragon18
@Alexthedragon18 Жыл бұрын
We can just slap the AH64 and the F117 to that list
@victim2077
@victim2077 Жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly most of the WT "leaks" aren't classified (as in only those who work with said plane/tank/helicopter have access to it), but are (pardon if I'm mixed nomenclature) marked "not for export", so every citizen of given country can see those, but said documents can't be taken/sent abroad.
@SoggyKatnip
@SoggyKatnip Жыл бұрын
Nope
@mxcherryblue5943
@mxcherryblue5943 Жыл бұрын
No, you're wrong. Each one has their own classification
@olekzajac5948
@olekzajac5948 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, this video ages absolutely brilliantly... every couple of weeks:)
@jasonviande5053
@jasonviande5053 Жыл бұрын
Why the hell are people arguing about realism in an arcade style video game? I just don't get it.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
It's very sad
@jokerincgaming2730
@jokerincgaming2730 Жыл бұрын
I'm loving the offspring theme 🤘🤘
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Hahaha cheers mate. Big fan
@payne7119
@payne7119 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the devs initial reaction was can we add a premium version of this tank and charge $$$ for actual specs, but then thought better off it.
@ItsTheFizz
@ItsTheFizz Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a game developer and having to repeatedly explain that your game isn't a Kremlin PsyOp...
@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 Жыл бұрын
We don't have to imagine, this is what happened.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Жыл бұрын
Most russian games are. The worst of that is Tarkov. Which are pretty openly support russian war against Ukraine and had ppl even touring Donbas with russian troops, illegally crossing Ukrainian border. Other developers are less egregious only sponsoring terrorists and spreading russian propaganda by making their units WAY stronger than in reality. If you think it's silly remember how many Westerners were sure that Kyiv will fall in 3 days, that Ukraine will never retake Kherson or destroyed S400s in Crimea.
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos Жыл бұрын
I think it's more of them calling up various sides with a, "Yeah, it's us again..."
@theatheisthammer
@theatheisthammer Жыл бұрын
@slopes they made the challenger 2 basically down the street at Vickers defence system You could go watch them testing it constantly when I was younger and you could walk round them as they were kept sometimes behind a chicken wire fence you could actually touch them and there testing ground wasn't fenced off. So people could photograph it inside and out, they were not really being secretive.
@Keirnoth
@Keirnoth Жыл бұрын
"I don't understand why you would lie about that" This is the most INTERNET of Internet arguments ever lmfao
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
But an engineer would technically know more than a commander about the nitty gritty makings of a tanks wall thickness. That is if he was an engineer
@NightshadeX85
@NightshadeX85 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather take the word of someone in the REME than a tank commander. REME are part of the technical branch and you ALWAYS, ALWAYS ! take the word of the technical over anyone else's. So it's hardly embarrassing if this is true. I think an aircraft engineer knows more about aircraft than an air stewardess or air traffic controller. I think a car engineer and mechanic knows more about cars than a taxi driver so it's hardly an own is it ? People who break things down and fix them and get them working again know more than people who operate them.
@KaoruMzk
@KaoruMzk Жыл бұрын
Why didn't the devs limit the game to only WW2 era vehicles!? They would have saved themselves a lot of headaches.
@Optimusprime56241
@Optimusprime56241 Жыл бұрын
That woulda been boring as hell and they woulda run out of content years ago
@Fuzhou
@Fuzhou Жыл бұрын
I mean. Tanks have been around for only a short amount of time.
@carnonPL
@carnonPL Жыл бұрын
when you mentioned the "classified' thing I knew exacly what was that about and began to slowly laugh more and more
@Topgungordo
@Topgungordo Жыл бұрын
The F-117 got leaked a week ago
@PixolScoot
@PixolScoot Жыл бұрын
Warthunder Mods: For Five Minutes. could you not release classified information... FOR FIVE MINUTES!!! Community: ..... F-117 Flight Manual go brrrr
@parhamghm
@parhamghm Жыл бұрын
Awesome game yet not completely without problems. I’ve played this and it’s totally worth it❤
@yudhat1700
@yudhat1700 Жыл бұрын
This is because gaijin BIASED SO much toward Russian tech tree Thsts it
@flyboymb
@flyboymb Жыл бұрын
When I saw the description saying that War Thunder could be no more, I was thinking that it was running afoul of gambling laws or something that would actually go against the company. I haven't heard anything about any government taking action against Gaijin for leaks being posted on the forums.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Жыл бұрын
well once the information is leaked then it hardly is private or secret anymore.
@BlackburnBigdragon
@BlackburnBigdragon Жыл бұрын
The most accurate tank simulator is "Steel Beasts". But it's expensive. Very expensive compared to War Thunder.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Oh really? Need to look into this
@dancingwiththedogsdj
@dancingwiththedogsdj Жыл бұрын
Sir, I absolutely love your videos, the voice, humor, just overall style, and the content itself always seems very well done! Thank you for your time, doing what you do, and for being you! You rock! Have a wonderful day/evening to all! 🍻🌎❤️🎶🕺
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh cheers dude :D trying to refine my style constantly so comments like this are a real boost
@dancingwiththedogsdj
@dancingwiththedogsdj Жыл бұрын
@@slopesgameroom well, if nothing else, you just made my day and that itself should count for something! 😊 I think you're great and just fun to watch! (I mean I think you're accurate as you can be and all too) Keep up the fantastic work and keep your wonderful attitude! Appreciate ya! 🍻❤️👍
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Have a good one mate and again, a big thanks
@timothypeterson4781
@timothypeterson4781 Жыл бұрын
Me: "Everything? I doubt that." *Shows up to Slope's house, gets let in and fed dinner.* Huh... He was telling the truth.
@beachside1
@beachside1 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if Russia had the same situation about one of their tanks? The guy would be imprisoned and the shot.
@MayumiC-chan9377
@MayumiC-chan9377 Жыл бұрын
i’m married one my husband served in the South African National defense force and after years of service and forming a private security company he purchased a Centurion and its his calm place. I love watching him working on it and getting to help him. He never neglects me and we always spend time together but when he has time he will go to our on land garage and work on his Centurion,Brdm 2 and BTR-70 yes he collected the armored vehicles first.
@JordanHowellMusic
@JordanHowellMusic Жыл бұрын
Wow Well said, all the names at the end of the video ; all of the KZbin I guess shout outs of every single persons name? You did it all correct , in one take! Much props that IS DJ skills. do respect it.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Hahaha really? I always pronounce stuff wrong... go me :D
@mosser-wm3dx
@mosser-wm3dx Жыл бұрын
Slopes dropping the ball on the nuances of the "classified" situation. Some documents that have been shared were in fact declassified but only for use in the country for origin. Weird little grey area were technically they are ok nationally, but not more. Not even digitally
@SirusFIN
@SirusFIN Жыл бұрын
There was the F117 leak this year
@Ordoabchao-x9k
@Ordoabchao-x9k Жыл бұрын
Guess what just happened today the 11th kek
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
It's insane that it keeps happening
@Ordoabchao-x9k
@Ordoabchao-x9k Жыл бұрын
@@slopesgameroom And for the F-117 no less. The flight manual i think.
@alansmithee2012
@alansmithee2012 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a post of someone getting some government job, and he said one of this interview questions was "Do you play War Thunder?"
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that too
@Pendarr
@Pendarr Жыл бұрын
3:56 wow so its been an undefeated tank until like 5 days ago? I don't know much at all about tanks but that does sound very impressive considering how crazy weaponry must be now
@ivorynargie
@ivorynargie Жыл бұрын
If im not mistaken, it is the only modern mbt that saw combat and was not destroyed yet, till 5 days ago
@デヴィン
@デヴィン Жыл бұрын
Depends on what you consider to be defeated. If I remember correctly, back in 2003 one of these became stuck after a track was damaged, took over 10 hits from rpgs and was later recovered. There was also one destroyed by friendly fire.
@blunderingfool
@blunderingfool Жыл бұрын
​@@デヴィンOh, one of them was taking RPG hits all day! Also there is a distinct difference between "Immobilized" and "knocked out". Take a guess at which counts as defeated.
@デヴィン
@デヴィン Жыл бұрын
@@blunderingfool Some people consider immobilized to be as good as knocked out
@guywiththebottle
@guywiththebottle Жыл бұрын
Can't help but be critical about stats such as this one. It is not like most modern tanks are sent to war on a daily basis. It is not quite a world war situation and so you can keep a tank on the training grounds for 30 years and still call it undefeated.
@likky1
@likky1 Жыл бұрын
a video game is a video game. realistic or not. its not supposed to be 1 to 1 with the real thing. if that were the case shotguns would not be close range only weapons
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Hahaha omg that's such a good point about shotguns
@carrito1981
@carrito1981 Жыл бұрын
I love bombing targets in this game. Must satisfying feeling ever. Fly for 5 minutes doing nothing, then death from above! Nothing like it 😂
@umi3017
@umi3017 Жыл бұрын
I'm an airliner instructor and even then I'll think twice before put any copyright material from my company and aircraft manufacturer out to public flight sim hobby forum...
@klipsfilmsmelbourne
@klipsfilmsmelbourne Жыл бұрын
Navy mode I know it’s least played flooded by multi account farm bots to fill up the match and ruin the game for anyone playing it Damage model on naval vessels I sometimes I complain of some vessels can’t sink properly for coastals hull is black while you hit it and won’t sink properly. Bluewater vessels in old version of the game you can simply hit ships everywhere but they change the damage model creating false advertise
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
That sucks
@lordlundar
@lordlundar Жыл бұрын
I don't say this much (okay, this is the first time tbh) but Gaijin is better off just shutting down the official forums, if for no other reason than to give plausible deniability from potential government actions.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
It will just happen on Reddit or in fan made discords etc is my guess
@lordlundar
@lordlundar Жыл бұрын
@@slopesgameroom Of course, but it's not about stopping it, it's about distancing themselves from it.
@IceMarsoc77
@IceMarsoc77 Жыл бұрын
On another note, I too am a tank enthusiast, but I ain't going to leak classified national secrets to a foreign company to get lets say the M1 and its Variants to be properly modeled in the game. Currently in the game the biggest weak point that everyone seems to shoot at on the Abrams tanks is the breech, turret ring and the lower hull on the front. In actuality the game has it modeled different, the turret ring in the fron facing forward is modeled with too much of a gap, in actuality its supposed to be slightly smaller gap, also the lower hull encasing the driver has Depleted Uranium encased with chobahm and other materials which make the Abrams all be impervious in the front lower plate to all other rounds except to those of its own the M829 rounds which are DPU(depleted Uranium sabot darts). Most Tankers like myself have learned to live with these differences as we know unless the MoD or DoD declassifies the material to the public which they wont unless the vehicle itself has been phased out of use... Gaijin can only model it as close to 90% instead of 100% accurate, but that last 10% we tankers have come to learn at that point its skill that determines a vehicles worth in game.
@Spectere
@Spectere Жыл бұрын
brb, looking for my Americana CD.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Such a kick ass album
@martinmethod427
@martinmethod427 Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing: the reason why these leaks happen to begin is because of the absolutely horrible balancing job that Gaijin Entertainment KFT does. Most designs tend to get neutered severely for "balance reasons" (Think Leopard 2 and Type 10 Autoloader), meanwhile Russian designs tend to be WAY more survivable than what the Ukranian conflicts have demonstrated them to actually be, because the documents they refer to tend to be heavily propagandized in the favor of the Russians and against anyone that isn't Russia or it's allies. Of course, it also doesn't help that there seems to be a priority inclusion clause where Russian vehicles are at the top of the list of inclusion over other nations (Mainly Japan; those fuckers are on suicide watch at this point). Pair these with monetization that makes EA look like a saint and the absolute pieces of shit that is Pacifica and Stona, and you get the biggest reason why people wish for a serious competitor to War Thunder.
@blunderingfool
@blunderingfool Жыл бұрын
That bit about Japan, hehe. Thanks for phrasing it in such an amusing way.
@Pendarr
@Pendarr Жыл бұрын
Who are Pacifica and Stona?
@martinmethod427
@martinmethod427 Жыл бұрын
@@Pendarr Just a pair of Europeans Gaijin Entertainment has as the Forum Moderators for their game forums. These powertripping assholes in combination with their forum's "no taking about moderation" rule is why these two can be a dick to anyone and everyone, and can in cases gaslight to get people to break rules to lock up threads. These pieces of shit would not be chosen as moderators for any other online forum. Honestly, I want the forums nuked out of existence just because of these two assholes ALONE.
@riv4lm4n
@riv4lm4n Жыл бұрын
Hopefully warthunder gets destroyed and everyone's money they wasted into it is refunded. Right ? We'll never get back the time wasted tho
@DJB0X3R
@DJB0X3R Жыл бұрын
Well the test track with Hammond, Clarkson and May. That also includes the Eboladrome.
@Zeithri
@Zeithri Жыл бұрын
My god I need to be on the forums more because I want to read those plane and chopper ones. Where do they mostly post them lol? xD
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I'm staying outta this one
@TheSevenBeloved
@TheSevenBeloved Жыл бұрын
Hearing the offspring in the video is awesome. I just saw them at a concert for the first time. Love it and love the video.
@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays Жыл бұрын
Using the music from the classic Worms was a nice touch.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
Glad you spotted that mate
@TheL1arL1ar
@TheL1arL1ar Жыл бұрын
I heard hell march for a second 🤘🏻….
@jerrybuck9236
@jerrybuck9236 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else have to pause this video and break out the old Americana album? That intro got me hyped!
@lexusluna
@lexusluna Жыл бұрын
the reason why some tanks irl are not like what you expected in warthunder, its basicly called balancing.
@SomberFireBall
@SomberFireBall Жыл бұрын
Slope I love the video but I do have to bring up that the video's research is a bit sloppy. For example 3 out of 6 of the "in-game" fighter jets shown at the end of the video are not even in the game at the time of writing nor will the SU57 (3rd plane to shown white and blue paint) ever be added to the game. I'd recommend if ever do a video on the topic again ask some War Thunder players or KZbinrs like Ash, Zoltan Sultan or Iron Armenian I'm sure they'd be more than willing to Collab and help with the video. Anyways good video and have a good day.
@guywiththebottle
@guywiththebottle Жыл бұрын
Oops.
@HonkeyKongLive
@HonkeyKongLive Жыл бұрын
Hell hath no fury like the rage of a military nerd.
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is one of those things that is largely misunderstood. Leaking operators manuals which don't require a security clearance to view, and often times military members have stashed away in their garage forgotten. Doesn't constitute leaking "classified information" if this was the case you would see the FBI, CCP, MI6 breaking down people's doors.......which surprise surprise they aren't. These reason they aren't is because most of these manuals are obsolescent and don't pose a security risk. The reason most of these documents haven't received an unclassified designation is largely because no one has requested it through FOIA or other means and the government is rather lazy.
@rorysyers8457
@rorysyers8457 Жыл бұрын
All this to win a flame war? We nerds will bring apocalypse if we not careful.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom Жыл бұрын
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