Ammo: -12.7mm: Universal Convergence: 400m Manual Engine Control settings: -70% radiator How to duel with the P51H and a few related tricks. The ending may surprise you.
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@Alpha-mo1kg6 жыл бұрын
that other P51 pilot at the end should get discharged immediately, failed to follow up with a fantastic bait not once, but twice
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. He got what he deserved by being shot down by that same Spitfire within 30s of my demise. I really don't put my trust in random teammates in general, but for these kinds of quality baits I expect at least a crit. He was a ground pounder though, if I had checked the scoreboard before trusting him, I wouldn't have put my life in his hands.
@THE_IS300_KID Жыл бұрын
Hey man it happens to everyone. even legends like us
@aidanhamilton98596 жыл бұрын
Your team mate let you down big time.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, happens!
@jaiell20495 жыл бұрын
US planes always let me down Well not always, but most of the time
@tonk41843 жыл бұрын
@@jaiell2049 spitfires have never let me down 👌
@jercki726 жыл бұрын
when your teammates aren't exactly paying attention to what you're doing ..
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Haha the guy caught on. He took a while to get into position for his 2nd pass, but that's fine. Problem is he'll rarely get an easier shot than these 2 opportunities, so it doesn't bode well for him.
@Waffalish5 жыл бұрын
3:24 Didn't see that one coming, tear'd up a lil, tragic. Good effort Adam ;(
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Sad times call for sad tears.
@doch.80395 жыл бұрын
Top 10 saddest anime deaths
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
RIP in piece.
@josuel64796 жыл бұрын
very good video, I congratulate you, few people upload content like yours that is to my liking, most just spend it talking, but your videos are interesting
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@prof1crl6 жыл бұрын
Tough fight and awesome flying. Just being able to escape should prove useful to a lot of pilots.
@mattfairfield91036 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha!! You got me! I was like "damn this guy must be really good if he wins this duel!" You did do a good job though. Way better than I could have done lol
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks mate!
@highsodium1ntake2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips and reality check at the end Adam.
@SoulAir6 жыл бұрын
nice masterful baits! I like the bit about the perpendicular maneuver. this has been my defensive bread and butter with boom and zoomers.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I do take pride in my baits.
@tytanowyjanusz99845 жыл бұрын
And that's why you should't rely on randoms. You can do masterbaits, but they will fuck even the best opportunity up, but in terms of killstealing - they are always doing the best efforts
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Haha indeed, and I don't rely on them usually.
@GreenFuryGaming6 жыл бұрын
awesome content buddy
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Thanks m8!
@neonguyen28246 жыл бұрын
Awesome fight! Yesterday I also made 2 dogfights against the XIVc variant in my stock P-51H, and both ended in tragic way... although the 51H can turn and win with most things in its BR (even stock), just don't turn with Spits The 51H still needs the help from squad mates like other 51s, i think. Expecting it to be as competitive as Spits when alone is unrealistic. Also, I'm surprised to know 100% throttle is better than WEP at low speed, thanks for your work, mate!
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
In general yeah you shouldn't dogfight with Spitfires, but if you know what you are doing you can kill an average pilot, and if you have a teammate nearby you can last long enough to bait for your teammate. My pleasure, and thank you!
@Reyeoux5 жыл бұрын
It's generally better to dive from altitude and attack in sweeping passes, use the energy from the dive to escape and climb again
@bigtime95975 жыл бұрын
A year late, but who misses a bait with tracers... TWICE?!
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Average pilots ;).
@YlmazDALKIRANscallion5 жыл бұрын
You laughed me so much in the end. =D
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Haha my pleasure!
@TheTISEOMan6 жыл бұрын
I like your videos and I also caught on to how %100 throttle is actually better at lower speeds than WEP but in the gamemode I play it's after going a certain altitude. I was wondering though. Is this weird quirk accurate, and also -- sorry to ask -- how much does that throttle difference compare in Arcade. I usually have trouble playing realistic due to vision issues. So I was wondering how much of a difference in Performance the P-51H would make in Arcade seeing as there is NO videos about the P-51H in arcade. I've been having these issues: Lack of control: I don't mean the plane isn't responsive. But I just don't get that feeling of control I get when flying the F8F-1b. Most of the time when I fly the F8F-1b I get the feeling of power and I can handle myself. Yet the P-51H I always feel weak and having to fly the defensive Engine Performance: For some reason, this plane in Arcade just eats dust above 5000 meters. I can barely reach 6k and 7k but I'd be going 170 km/h and be having, somehow, Yaks able to outspeed me at higher altitudes. That's not discounting I don't know what angle to climb since once the airspeed goes below 250. I just lose all power and eat dirt. I dunno if you'll take the time to answer, but I would appreciate your help.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! As far as I know, and I know a decent amount, this quirk shouldn't exist. Prop thrust is highest at lower speeds. You're asking if this quirk applies to Arcade too? I would assume so, Arcade has about 50% more engine power/thrust when compared to RB. I highly recommend playing RB, visibility isn't an issue when the names of the enemies pop up quite a distance away. Lack of control: US aircraft and P51s in general are quite odd to fly, you need to get used to the roll and elevators to prevent wobbling. F8F by comparison is much more stable, so I think that's normal. P51H is the fastest prop aircraft in game, and 6km is its best altitude for speed. As you gain altitude, your climb angle needs to be reduced. If you're using IAS, you need to climb at a constant speed (about 270km/h). At around 6 km you shouldn't be much higher than 10 degrees above the horizon. Also, if you use Manual Engine Controls, don't forget to switch supercharger gears.
@TheTISEOMan6 жыл бұрын
Adam514 Yeah, I knew about the issue. But it seems that the Aircrafts high altitude performance for arcade is extremely neutered
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Try climbing at a higher speed. I'd be surprised if it's actually the case, since it's more work for them to change performance based on if it's RB/SB or Arcade.
@smokeypillow4 жыл бұрын
oh damn i flinched hard when u got shot down, wasn't expecting that
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Happens from time to time ;).
@joaopedroschramm19484 жыл бұрын
Mannnnnn i love your channel❤️
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the love!
@OktaviusBiedermann5 жыл бұрын
Best ending. I really didn´t expect that from you lol
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha don't I always deliver the best ending?
@matiriko236 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sandeepshetty15893 жыл бұрын
you were getting separation after the initial dodge...and then you turned?
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Yeah baiting for teammate to deal with the enemy quicker.
@joseemiliorangeltrejo23273 жыл бұрын
Adam, his manouver only applies on P51 or also in BF109?
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Which maneuver?
@joseemiliorangeltrejo23273 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd the evading one, where you turn pretty good
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
@@joseemiliorangeltrejo2327 Yeah why not.
@lAmLordeYaYa4 жыл бұрын
Does WEP reduce thrust at low speeds only for this aircraft or does it affect all props the same?
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Generally it doesn't reduce thrust, but it's complicated. Aircraft with high power and small props (Bf109s, Spitfire LF Mk IX) will lose thrust at low speed on WEP, but that doesn't mean 100% will produce more thrust because there's a big power difference between WEP and 100%.
@lAmLordeYaYa4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Ok that does sound complicated haha, so basically i'm wondering, since i play 109's mostly, (G2 the most) should i use WEP when doing stall manouvers and energy traps when going under 250kph? And does the same prop pitch trick that increases thrust in a stall work (referring to the one you did on the G14 AS video) on the earler BF's like the F4 and G2? Thanks.
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
@@lAmLordeYaYa WEP won't change much on F4 and G2, so might as well not WEP and cool your engine while at low speed. Also, the prop pitch trick gives the most benefit for higher power Bf109s (G6 and up), not worth doing on lower Bf109s.
@lAmLordeYaYa4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thanks, your the best for answering, i noticed the prop pitch airbrake does work for the G2 and F4, but you need to do it at lower speeds only or else you cook the engine, i've been using hte prop pitch trick for take offs in my G2, but dunno if it's rlly making a difference, i've tried it in stall manouvers too, can't really say it has helpted too much, its great on the g14 tho! like you said, thanks again man. Edit: Prop pitch trick actually works on take off on th G2!
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
@@lAmLordeYaYa My pleasure! It does make a difference, but the difference is small enough for you to not take the effort and risk of engaging manual prop pitch in combat. Check out the overlay in my latest videos to actually see the thrust difference, you'll be interested in that.
@silience40954 жыл бұрын
Why does WEP reduce thrust??? Does this apply to any other planes?
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Applies to high power planes with relatively small propellers, so Bf109s are also like this but worse. Reason is the prop isn't big enough to handle the power at that low speed, and hence "stalls" to keep RPM from passing its maximum, reducing thrust.
@silience40954 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd And all this time, I'd always use WEP for verticals in my all my 109's damn.
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
@@silience4095 WEP still gives more thrust than 100% on Bf109s simply because of the big extra power from WEP (and higher RPM).
@ynwafanmrks18174 жыл бұрын
Damn, one of my friends bought the Spitfire Mk 14c. Idk if it's worth buying for that much... Even J2M3's or Ki-83's outclimb it. Not sure about Ki-84-Hei's though.. Also what is the difference between all Ki-84 types? IKR that the Hei has a gear switch at 3000m.
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
All same performance, different guns.
@redjohn18056 жыл бұрын
That ending haha awesome
@britishfalcon92395 жыл бұрын
As a brit I feel satisfied watching an American plane being colonised XD Great video mate (:
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Lmao thanks mate!
@gliderfs6212 жыл бұрын
The fact is IRL, Mustang stands no chance against the Spitfire. All american pilots who flew both of them said that the Spitfire was better by far on all points except range than Mustang.
@AdamTheEnginerd2 жыл бұрын
There are a bunch of different variants of both aircraft, what you're saying is definitely false for some variants. Also they had different missions.
@gliderfs6212 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd the D version was contemporary to the MkIX and MkXIV which outclasses FW190 and Bf109G. German pilots feared the Spitfire above all other western allied planes, the other plane is Yak 3 on eastern front.
@Heaven-dy9lj3 жыл бұрын
You did well scrapping in a P51 against a Spitfire like that. P51'S are tough but are not strong against Spits in this type of arena Now KI's and F4's are a real tricky challenge for Spits.
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@projenitor23875 жыл бұрын
HOLLY SHIT I don't think i've ever seen a p51 dance like that!
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Power of flaps ;).
@jercki725 жыл бұрын
Well, I didn't realize you pointed out that it's better for prop efficiency to reduce throttle sometimes, that early.
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Technically reducing throttle always increases prop efficiency, it's just that for some planes (109s), the lowering the power increases efficiency enough to compensate the loss in power in the thrust result.
@jercki725 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd yes, that can be the case when the airfoil is 'stalled' I think
@Oookkaa3 жыл бұрын
There was this time I was in a 2v1, 2 bf109s vs some fighter I cant remember. He was behind me and I had engine damage. I figured I could have tried to run to base, but my teammate was just shooting AI planes, so I brought the enemy fighter right to him hoping he would react but nope, I flew a loop around my teammate as the last surviving enemy was chasing me and finished me off, then killed him unceremoniously fast
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Lol nice.
@PorkNBeans47 Жыл бұрын
Tbh was not expecting the pilot snipe 😂😂
@bryanwegman72582 жыл бұрын
I've almost never had a P-51 survive the move you started with xD. Or some of the other ones for that matter.
@TimmacTR4 жыл бұрын
nice
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@MsIndycar4 жыл бұрын
Wow Adam met his match. Nice flying tho.
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@roadent2173 жыл бұрын
It's too bad your teammate couldn't make it to your funeral. He would be given the task of carrying your casket. So he could *let you down* one last time.
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Lmao nice one.
@wruenvadam5 жыл бұрын
I have had potato aim before on a run on a baited enemy but I tend to not miss twice. Normally its my brain farting my lead distance for the guns or not realizing my distance from the target. Tend to get it right on my second pass. Also the only time I ground pound is when there is literally nothing else to do, such as someone being 20+ kilometers away and climbing to space. Had a similar fight though in my hellcat against a C205 Serie 3. Managed to win that one though. Hellcat isn't as good climbing wise vs the C205 but I managed to keep us going down to get my speed up so eventually I leveled out earlier like you did at the later point of this fight but was able to maneuver as he came down and was too late to pull out of it quickly enough, allowing me to get on his tail and get him. Unfortunately that battle was a loss and I did not feel like going up against a couple 109s, p47 and something british by myself in a Hellcat. I am not that good of a pilot and I was not trying to feed them a kill, after already being butchered enough in the thing. Also have you made an up to date video on the F6F-5? I'm starting to come to grips with it and it is the American aircraft I am most comfortable in so far, but I would love some pointers on how to fly it better, and maybe a few tricks I might be able to use against Bf 109s especially, cause those G-2s and F-4s be messing me up a lot. Of course it can handle japanese aircraft, but I rarely face those... Well zeros anyway, not really the J2Ms, A7Ms, and Ki-61s which are just as if not more capable if I'm to be honest. They seem to be anyway but that's just me.
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
No video on the F6F yet, it's on my list! There are much better US aircraft at a similar BR though. You outturn Bf109s F4+, and a small speed advantage too. But the climb difference is big.
@wruenvadam5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd what other aircraft would you suggest I try? I just want to like American planes because I've built models of plenty of them. I just feel like they get shafted a little. I was thinking of the P47 but I'm still unsure. I do have the F4U-1D but I have had numerous issues because of its rudder and not quite being able to get on target unlike the Hellcat which seems to have better rudder response at speed.
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
F4U A certainly.
@wruenvadam5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Yeah that one was really fun. A 2.7br corsair is just to die for. Not quite as crazy as the He100 at 1.7 though. That... That's just a bit dumb. XD it might only have 3 7.92s but when it has the advantage almost all the time, it doesn't really matter.
@iagopires84366 жыл бұрын
u helped me to don t die so fast for a spitfire, please do a duel of a f8f bearcat and a spitfire
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
I'll try!
@LuizBarros996 жыл бұрын
Funny how 5.7 spit can beat even one of the best prop fighters in game with little effort.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Well the P51H isn't a turnfighter, and the turnfighter should win in close up dogfights.
@LuizBarros996 жыл бұрын
Adam514 I know, but the Spitfires are NOT slow AND climb and turn like crazy, which makes me question their BR...
@LuizBarros996 жыл бұрын
Adam514 also, what is this thing that u use to show advanced info about your plane, such as thrust, climb, etc.?
@LuizBarros996 жыл бұрын
Adam514 hey, one plane that is a joy to fly is the Yak 3 VK-107; you should give it a shot. P.S.: Practice "tap fire" with it, it only has 2x 20mm with 120rpg
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
It's called the "local host". How to access the "local host": You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work! Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT: -Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila. Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT): -Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying. Unfortunately my only paid premium is the German Tempest. I know the Yak3 VK is a beast though.
@TheMinman8085 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that the p51 pilot somehow missed all his shots on a slow close to stalling spitfire
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Turk3YbAstEr4 жыл бұрын
The Chad American plane vs the virgin American rb pilot
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Euh what?
@WhooptieDo6 жыл бұрын
I know it's easy to be a backseat driver here but I think you could have had him if you took him into a spiral climb on that second pass... I haven't flown the H yet though, so idk.
@WhooptieDo6 жыл бұрын
It's hard to do against griffons because they have so much power but he stalled very quickly...
@GreenFuryGaming6 жыл бұрын
I suck in it
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
I did take him into a spiral climb?
@WhooptieDo6 жыл бұрын
You went vertical into a stall climb. Spiral climbs are more wings level, using the rudder and full elevator once you get slow. You won't stall but if they work to get guns on target they will have to burn far more energy and stall..... You will still have controllability to whip it back over and get them. Remember when you, Bob and I were messing around that day?
@WhooptieDo6 жыл бұрын
It's very effective against earlier tier planes, but tough against later planes like griffons.
@StealthySparky6 жыл бұрын
Ahah Je suis surpris que tu n'ais pas fuit ce combat après l'avoir "energy drain". You're greedy ;) Intéressante, l'astuce avec la WEP à basse vitesse mais y a t-il une raison pour laquelle tu n'as pas utilisé tes volets à 2:14 ? Plus de portance est toujours bon dans ce genre de situation, non ? J'ai l'impression que cela aurait aider pour les ciseaux qui ont suivit juste après :D
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Haha j'aurais du considérant ce qui s'est passé par la suite, mais j'avais un allié proche et... ouais. L'astuce avec WEP ça fonctionne juste sur certains avions en passant, bien moins que la majorité. Je ne les ai pas utilisé afin de ralentir le pointage de mon nez vers le sol et donc ralentir mon gain de vitesse. Je les ai utilise quelques secondes plus tard, peut-être que j'aurais du les utiliser un peu plus tôt.
@StealthySparky6 жыл бұрын
"peut-être que j'aurais du les utiliser un peu plus tôt." Ouais c'est ce que je voulais dire ^^ Après c'est pas évident de penser à tous dans ce genre d'engagement. Par exemple j'ai fais un combat épique avec une série de ciseaux contre un simple P-47D-25 avec mon FW 190 D-12 il y a pas longtemps et je m'attendais pas à ce qu'il me donne autant de mal. J'ai réussit à remporter le combat mais en revoyant l'affrontement en replay je me suis rendu compte que si j'avais utilisé mes volets plus tôt j'aurais sans doute gagné le combat 3 minutes plus tôt :P J'ose pas imaginer ce qu'il se serait passé s'il avait été en D-28 ^^
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
C'est pas facile battre un P47 sans volets, mais avec volet le FW ne devrait pas avoir de misère à l'emporter. Si le D28 t'apporte à basse vitesse dans le vertical et que tu n'as pas le tir, alors ouais ça peut aller mal mdr.
@MrSnipyCat3 жыл бұрын
i know this is a old video, but how bad can your aim be to miss a near stall plane twice, was he using a phone to control the plane? Christ...
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that sealed my fate.
@MudkipsAreEpicWin6 жыл бұрын
If you weren't only using mouse aim you would have probably had him. For some reason the plane doesn't always go exactly where you want it to on mouse aim only.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Hmm it doesn't always take the path you want it to take, but it always gets to where you point your mouse.
@MudkipsAreEpicWin6 жыл бұрын
Adam514 Yes, but if you were using elevator control you could make more efficient maneuvers, faster. You can also use your mouse to keep track of enemies behind you while making accurate maneuvers.
@jakethesnake96213 жыл бұрын
Watching this as a P-51H pilot makes me scared of spits now
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
I suppooose.
@shadowaffles6 жыл бұрын
Dat ending... _tears_
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
:'(
@colonelmustang49195 жыл бұрын
Haha Lord Vilatius the only person who killed the great Adam514. Mais bien joué quand même. C'est bien de savoir que tu es un humain toi aussi 😂😂
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Haha bien sûr, tout le monde meurt éventuellement!
@MrWoghbest4 жыл бұрын
how the hell he misses that 0 speed stalling spit???
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
It's impossible to calculate the skill of a ground pounder ;).
Last time I played American planes, my team had only 4 fighters left, (myself included), 3 of which were down on the airfield rearming because they were stupid enough to go after the same plane. I was getting swarmed by 2 Bf-109s and 3 Fw-190s. I used my teammates as live bait, dragged the enemies to my airfield and let them clean out my team while I picked them off. Good news is, we won thanks to me. XD
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Lol press F to pay respects.
@russianvodka77976 жыл бұрын
yeeeeeeeessssssss spitfires are the best
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Traitor!
@zrbbg96395 жыл бұрын
I hate them
@for_talos5 жыл бұрын
Fw 190 are the best
@zrbbg96395 жыл бұрын
@@for_talos More like Ta-152.
@igotdainfinitystones77605 жыл бұрын
Squire
@wustengeist17915 жыл бұрын
Potato team, potato aim Yes, I'm eating a potato. Yum
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Playing on a potato too?
@wustengeist17915 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd it's inevitable
@kayonicks6 жыл бұрын
lol the ending made me laugh
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@CoolCarVideo Жыл бұрын
Ye ya spitfire 👍. H ey you should use text to speech program. They have some really good ones. And it would be a funny commentary 😉
@stefanmichaelsenzegarra56884 жыл бұрын
I have died to worse stuff when I energy trapped a P63 on my G2 but my teammate TK'ed lol
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah happens.
@GewelReal5 жыл бұрын
>trusting randoms
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
And giving second chances ;).
@arkadiusz97954 жыл бұрын
No happy ending in life, was fired today tho
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
What was your job and why did you get fired?
@CharonXI6 жыл бұрын
Im crying ;(
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
RIP dreams.
@vkalinovcic3 жыл бұрын
sharpshooter's name is.......rainingblood1974....nice
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Fitting.
@googlepissoff57765 жыл бұрын
That teammate had the worst aim I’ve ever seen
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Eh I see it from time to time.
@smellysocks24633 жыл бұрын
I fly brit and German and the spitfire is nice to fly and annoying to fly against as its go amazing agility
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@MrGx595 жыл бұрын
Salut joli dogfight ! Dommage pour la fin mais je pense que ton allié est plus à blâmer que toi... Étant donné que je joue en IAS et pas en vitesse sol je n'ai pas trop de repère mais je pense qu'à 2:57 tu n'aurais pas dû sortir tes pleins volets pour cette manoeuvre... J'aurais plutôt tenté un "looping" en volets combat histoire de garder un max de vitesse tout en gagnant en surface pour l'aile, en plus tu avais une petite avance sur le spit, ce petit laps de temps aurait pu permettre à ton allié d'avoir un angle parfait ( même si il n'était pas doué...). Même si la manoeuvre que je te propose est risquée je pense qu'elle aurait fonctionné. En plus même si le spit n'a pas le meilleur Roll rate, il perd moins d'énergie qu'un p51h en combat en ciseaux je pense. Enfin bref bien joué quand même !
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Merci! IAS et SPD sont égaux à très basse altitude, et en haut à gauche il y a aussi IAS. À 2:57 le Spitfire était quand même proche d'avoir un tir éventuellement, c'est lui qui avait l'avantage en position selon moi. Le Spitfire perd plus d'énergie en tournant, c'est aussi ça qui l'aide à aller derrière moi.
@dogeness6 жыл бұрын
Rip 😰 gg though
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Can't win em all.
@reedgraff24655 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen anyone play a p51 like this, lol..
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have if I didn't have a teammate near me.
@reedgraff24655 жыл бұрын
Adam514 also I feel like it was a weird approach for your teammate, I try to get a kilometer and a half and then go straight so my teammate has a straight shot... then if the enemy turns off my 6 I’ll turn on to him...
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
I got the enemy very slow for my teammate on both occasions, it'd be hard to do much better than that.
@reedgraff24655 жыл бұрын
Adam514 but the approach was very awkward slow or not, it was a weird looking head on, where he had only a very small pocket of time to shoot.
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a head on, the enemy was facing over 90° away from my teammate.
@flak88423 жыл бұрын
Spitfire Griffon at low alt are unbeatable in Dogfight except japanese planes For A P-51 H is gonna struggle A lot against a griffon
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@flak88423 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd that's why I am getting my Griffon Spitfire to make every P-51 Player Suffer
@Heaven-dy9lj3 жыл бұрын
True. The Ki's and F4's are a real test for Spits and separate the men from the boys. : )
@abdvxn4 жыл бұрын
NOO! dont fight you both are friends and Allies
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Gaijin said otherwise ;).
@Variety_Pack5 жыл бұрын
I died laughing
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Good!
@prosnail61305 жыл бұрын
I dont see nothing funny here
@berg6993 жыл бұрын
That feeling when the hero of the story is let down by a filler character.
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Haha yup.
@AS-qv8cv Жыл бұрын
Spitfire No.1
@legend24604 жыл бұрын
Poor shooting on the other P51s behalf otherwise you would have survived you set him up twice and he couldn't deliver
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Yup, usually these baits are enough, but not this time.
@legend24604 жыл бұрын
Adam514 lol every time I try save a team mate I always get there and get the kill as my team mate dies or is set on fire and eventually goes down I try my best to keep as many company as we climb but if they dive I rarely follow until I'm sure there's no visible threats high then I go down and take out guys harassing my team mates it even shames me to admit you and dogeness have asked for my help on one occasion many moons ago be a few months now but I was in a wyvern just grinding some lions I was doing abit of bombing pillboxes and rocketing them and taking shots at enemy aircraft if the opportunity came along and you were in your Tempest Mk V and doge was in an LF Mk IX but anyway you guys had both run out of ammo and we're trying to RTB to rearm but ending up being harassed by 2 190Ds only a few km from base and me being a pleb ground pounder was not paying attention to chat when you both asked me for help consequently you both scolded me for it I watch the reply and though shit that was a rookie mistake on my part
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Haha that's a nice story!
@cptoscar4 жыл бұрын
Ahhahaha ,yes I got surprised
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
By my death?
@cptoscar4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd yes
@druginducedfeverdream16135 жыл бұрын
This is the biggest downside of WT. Those baits were SO perfect. The spit was slow, and that dude missed both times. I can't tell you how many times I've given people the easiest shot in the world and watch them not even hit the bastard...Good flying though on your part.
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Yeah at tier 4 though they should be able to get at least a crit on one of those baits, but oh well. Taught me a lesson.
@marcinhalbiniak40914 жыл бұрын
The P51 is only about 3 Miles per hour faster
@anneallison64023 жыл бұрын
Only russians can beat a spitfire easily at that height
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
I'd put my money on the Spitfire.
@anneallison64023 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd spitfire mk 22 vs yak 3 vk107 at low alt, which would win?
@Merluso4153 жыл бұрын
chale bro :c
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
What does that mean?
@FloatCosmically5 жыл бұрын
Teammate had garbage aim this is why you died.
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
I would agree with that.
@prosnail61305 жыл бұрын
YEA FKING BAN US WHO HAVE BAD AIM I CANT EVEN LAND A HIT IN ARCADE AND REALISTIC SO YEA BAN US
@FloatCosmically5 жыл бұрын
@@prosnail6130 When did arcade ever have fuel and oil to even worry about except when you get shot?
@fishback6556 жыл бұрын
How DARE you fight with SPACEFIRE!
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Haha my apologies!
@DelFlea6 жыл бұрын
😖😖😖😖
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha.
@kerosenevapor14305 жыл бұрын
You did mistake at 2:40 to go full wep. You should keep behind him.
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
I was at very low altitude, if I don't turn on power I won't be able to continue turning. Also power probably helps to turn tighter.
@FerTapNoCap3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Aim.exe?
@FerTapNoCap3 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd stopped working!
@pedrosabino87516 жыл бұрын
Yes, I like when spitfires shoot down the p51s.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Heartless!
@Reyeoux5 жыл бұрын
Thats the point
@gologlesub4 жыл бұрын
E
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
I agreE!
@srgabrielfb4 жыл бұрын
lol
@AdamTheEnginerd4 жыл бұрын
Jealous of my teammate's skill?
@nachovazquez89163 жыл бұрын
XD
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
F?
@gbro88223 жыл бұрын
Lol
@AdamTheEnginerd3 жыл бұрын
Teammate?
@nateberry93935 жыл бұрын
F
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
F
@Reyeoux5 жыл бұрын
The spit pilot was an idiot and the 51 pilot missed a few chances to exploit this
@AdamTheEnginerd5 жыл бұрын
Which chances?
@Reyeoux5 жыл бұрын
At 1:30, you could have achieved separation from the fight, climbed above the spit as it would inevitably look for other targets and then use the altitude advantage to dive on the spit or stallfight it, rather than turning around to turnfight a turnfighter with an energy fighter.
@Heaven-dy9lj3 жыл бұрын
Spit pilot flew real bad.
@Reyeoux3 жыл бұрын
Woah this comment still exists
@Heaven-dy9lj3 жыл бұрын
@@Reyeoux lol. Even if our memory's don't 😊
@user-bp9wf1ny2r6 жыл бұрын
I cried at the end ,Gaijin should ruin the spitfire like they ruined the german 6.7 br tanks
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Lol Spitfires compress now at least, makes for some fun reversals.
@LuizBarros996 жыл бұрын
Adam514 not the series 20 griffons, nor the roll on clipped wings ones
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
They uncompressed them in 1.77 haha.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
Good, you shouldn't be able to burn that much fuel and not overheat lol.
@AdamTheEnginerd6 жыл бұрын
WEP is 100% in WT that's for sure.
@yeetothecheeto57873 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a happy ending? Yes, yes I was, and I got it, The Spitfire won. Rule Britannia. Your teammate let you down big time though. Two great baits and he still couldn’t kill him. F.