WarCraft 2 Tides of Darkness | Orc Mission 15 | The Lost Isles

[@minhkhoaluong25]

I cannot believe this is an indepedent project from enthusiastic fans who truly love warcraft. May Adun bless them.

[@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь]

Indeed. They just absolutely humiliated and embarrassed Blizzard

[@AleksanderDrako]

To be honest, it is easier to believe then if it was Blizzard project given their recent shows of effort

[@_ace786]

Elune praise them

[@masoudfarrokhy6926]

Neither do i

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

Goddammit. If they had taken Cho’Gal’s heads here and killed him for good, we might have avoided he whole Twilight Hammer cult mess later in WoW.

[@joaopadua7134]

This isnt cannon

[@DIEGhostfish]

​@joaopadua7134 True, but Rend and Maim and their troops *almost* killing Cho'Gal is canon. Heck, it's probably where his big X scar came from until Blizzard got lazy and left the scar on his AU model.

[@_ace786]

no it is...the human campaign will be the fight back from lorderon rallying and driving the orcs back

[@Morec0]

While Rend and Maim and their clan were indeed dispatched to deal with Gul'dan, Zuluhead was not. I'm sure I'm misremembering, but I'm not sure anyone else was sent with them. Something I forgot to mention on the previous video was the death knights, and Gorefiend, stayed loyal to the Horde. Ogrim questioned Teron what he would do, and whether out of true loyalty or knowing whst would happen otherwise, Teron said Guldan had betrayed the Horde but he would not. Drak'thul would remain on thst isle for decades, haunted by the ghosts of the orce he betrayed. Another great recreation of a classic cinematic. While inside... Well, I'm sure we'll see. Wow. Lore dump. So, the sister mentioned was named Griselda, Blackhands daughter who pursued a relationship with an ogre despite her father's wishes and he ordered the player (technically Doomhammer) to hunt her down and kill her. The Blackhand brothers were indeed magically aged as well, when the Horde needed more warriors for the war on Draenor the warlocks used fel magic to age up a number of orcish kids to add to their armies. On the topic of old gods, there's a quest in Shadowmoon Valley where you see and stop a number if the aarakokra from summoning something that uses C'thun's model. It's been a point of speculation for a while that even Draenor had its own old gods, or they were somehow linked. Cho'gal would indeed survive, and the scar seen on his belly in Cataclysm is the wound he sudtained here. Interestingly, his mutstions would actually come later in canon, blessings from the old gods as he worked against the new guardian Med'an.... But, guven that's Med'an canon, I'm okay with this change. I can't wait to see what happens next.

[@DIEGhostfish]

A huge portion of the Dragonmaw were sent after Gul'dan as the dragonriders were the ones most likely toncatch up to him. I don't remember for sure if thr Dragonmaw went.

[@krel3358]

The entire missions and lore were created because in WC2 and later Starcraft blizzard mandated that you had to fight each race at least once in the campaign, including mirror matches. WC3 was the first time they departed with that idea.

[@Morec0]

@@krel3358 Which is a shame, imo. Inner conflict always makes things feel more dynamic.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@Morec0 By the end of TFT you had everything but nightelf vs nightelf and the Satyr were almost similar enough to count.

[@Morec0]

@@DIEGhostfish I was thinking about that. Yeah, TFT resolved most of the issue.... Was there orc versus undead? I don't recall.

[@thewalrus45]

man when the whole place gets all N'zothed up when Cho'gall goes full Void. Fucking awesome.

[@lhfirex]

It's time to close Gul'dan Ramsey's restaurant.

[@aleksandarvil5718]

13:15 😨😰🤯😳😱

[@WhiteFangofWar]

Impressively detailed boss battle against Cho'Gall.

[@ExecutorNral]

I just love how Rend called Cho'Gall heretical filth. A fitting tittle for them.

[@Marconius6]

I like the fact some of these WC2 levels are now basically just WoW raids, but from an RTS perspective. Adds some nice variety to the campaign.

[@joaopadua7134]

I just realized that drak'thul is that warlock that maiev finds some 30 years later on the island

[@mohdhafiz2559]

tbh I realise that this mission and upcoming mission maps are same with the Night Elf campaign

[@ricorommeldumaplin4822]

Gul dan will definitely experience first hand the curse of zuljin from the previous episode I already can't wait to see what happens next

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

How do you think the mission to destroy Dalaran and Lordaeron will change

[@joaopadua7134]

He will just die

[@nahruz.w3044]

Wait so that why he died so easily in the Isle?

[@LucasSilva-zg6xy]

Rend and Maim having the fight or their lives Utok: *casually writting that down

[@ExecutorNral]

Actually he was the one throwing the runes at us

[@LucasSilva-zg6xy]

@@ExecutorNral wasn't zuluhed?

[@ExecutorNral]

@@LucasSilva-zg6xy he's creating them. But in final fight Utok was just chilling there

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@ExecutorNral Lending Zuluhed his magic.

[@farseer2043]

What a faithful recreation of the Warcraft III Night Elf mission map! Also the dialogues between Blackhands and Cho'gall are hilarious, as well as the Void-ified Tomb of Sargeras (K'tanth returning to its roots?).

[@DIEGhostfish]

19:06 I see the modders went with the very cool idea of Rend and Maim's near-killing of Cho'Gal putting the X on his chest that was in Cata. And rightly ignored Blizzard copping out and putting it on his WoD model.

[@farseer2043]

His WoD model was very lazy, he shouldn't have been so hulked and have rocky things on his body. Even a generic Ogre Mage model he had in the beta would have fit him more.

[@beiberns]

Aayyy it's drak'thul the orc we meet in Maiev missions. Also weren't there 3 clans fighting on the side mission?

[@GoGoing-wn9kz]

👍

[@masterexploder9668]

Blackrock, Stormreavers and Twilight's Hammer orc skeletons. I think they just lumped them together as Blackrock to mark all forces loyal to Doomhammer.

[@maxymusify]

Amon works hard, but Exectuor works harder! 3 vids a day goddamn.

[@minhkhoaluong25]

He’s truly the people’s executor

[@ХамитЮсуп-т5ь]

They even added Drak'Thul from Warcraft 3. I had a deja vu

[@TheWarmachine375]

3:54 Is Drak'thul the same Orc Warlock encountered by Maiev Shadowsong during her pursuit of Illidan Stormrage on the island where Tomb of Sargeras is in Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne?

[@GoGoing-wn9kz]

Yes

[@MM-tu4fn]

The most important comments, apart from the great game. Zuluhed's voice is absolutely stunning - the best chosen voice!

[@kevinvarela7465]

My fuckikg god so fuckng goooooood this chapter

[@VChong1991]

If this really happened...you gotta give the blackhand brothers credit. They went toe to toe against cho'gall. Not your usual side bosses.

[@tunch90]

Same map of nightelfs of frozen throne?

[@ExecutorNral]

Yep. Broken Isles.

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

@@ExecutorNralThe same Isle in Wow: Legion too

[@aleksandarvil5718]

​@@ExecutorNral Back WHEN Suramar were just ancient Higborne ruins, BEFORE being reused as home of Nightborne/Shal'dorei !!!

[@aleksandarvil5718]

3:53 Drak'Thul Prequel Origins

[@TheWarmachine375]

2:41 Shouldn't the Death Knight be loyal to Gul'dan or his control over the undead Human knights with the souls of Orcs is as not perfect as it seems?

[@deadweight2121]

I don't really expect the Orcs in the clans known for being power-hungry to be very loyal.

[@shini1908]

its been established in lore that these first generation death knights are only loyal to themselves and whatever individual goal each one of them has. they only followed Gul'dan in the first place probably because they where tolerated and not killed by the horde because they where useful.

[@TheUrobolos]

He made them to be secretly loyal to him. But they were too powerfull and ended up being only loyal to themselves. Indeed they kickstarted the BTDP campaign by offering Ner'Zhul the help of opening new portals to new worlds, in exchange for one of this conquered world to be gifted to them to rule it as they saw fit

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@shini1908 Gorefiend was loyal to the Horde, relatively.

[@masterexploder9668]

Warlocks all vied for control between each other and I would guess some of them considered the idea of betraying Doomhammer to be crazy. They already died once for crossing him and didn't want to waste their second lease on life, such as it was.

[@Purplevelv3tpickachu]

They really made the fight with the ogre filth a real pve fight...that's kick-ass!

[@smiledog3975]

Even the drums of N'zoth are played in the ending of Cho'gall.

[@TheWarmachine375]

1:11 It's because the ruins used to be the Highborne Elves, predecessors of the High Elves, who were once dominant race of Azeroth with a massive empire under Azhara before the War of the Ancients happened.

[@TheWarmachine375]

19:24 It's best if Cho'Gall got taken out permanently.

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

Why didn’t they do it? It just takes a few seconds to lop off his heads.

[@imasyourleague]

N'Zoth theme in warcraft 2, but we never seen this in Warcraft 3 Reforged, shamefurr Blizzard Entertainment!

[@StormKnight1]

The boss fight seems well made but it loses its suspense because there is constant runes of healing dropped. Removing the feeling of threat.

[@TheWarmachine375]

9:26 Mannaroth is the one who had the Orcs drink his demon blood and Grom Hellscream took him down to free his race from it.

[@MultiMrSomething]

And Mannaroth IS Sargaeras' demon.

[@zyxelroble320]

I hope they recreate the original scene of Guldan in the 2nd Elven Campaign.

[@MicahandModesta]

Holy fuck that music in the last Cho'gall phase from the warbringers film couldn't be any more terrifying and epic. I got a bug in the second phase sadly so couldn't proceed :( :(

[@sirichaijaruwattanadilok4901]

Due to Drak'thul's cowardice, he has survived till WC3. Such a long-lived virgin.

[@farseer2043]

And after too.

[@DIEGhostfish]

He's in WoW's Legion expansion too.

[@masterexploder9668]

@@DIEGhostfish The madlad is still going in 2024.

[@aleksandarvil5718]

15:02 Maim = *#ThugLife* *#SavageComeback* 🔥🔥🔥

[@porukasaposvetom8904]

Holy shit, what an epic map and the boss fight with Cho'gall. This is an absolute masterpiece!

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

The fight was awesome, but I am slightly bothered: How the hell did two orcs manage to beat a powerful ogre magi pumped to the brim with Old Gods powers? I feel like Cho’Gall even without the amp could beat them with magic alone.

[@porukasaposvetom8904]

@@kiennguyentrong1897 Cho'gall is a powerful mage, plus a strong melee warrior, but not enough to defeat two stronger melee fighters, I guess. The battle is made in regards to the actual story of WC2 where Cho'gall doesn't die, but rather escapes the Broken Isle and goes to serve the Old Gods. In that regards, I am hoping to see Maim surprised to see Cho'gall isn't lying on the ground to collect his heads when they escape the tomb in next chapter...

[@masterexploder9668]

While powerful, they are not invincible. If this was an open fight with both sides having normal units at their disposal, I would just say that they got overwhelmed by superior numbers of forces sent by Doomhammer, while from the other side Gul'dan and his Stormreavers were ripped to shreds by demons.

[@nobelmassinaarben2467]

The Old God!

[@mante0520]

I only had main in this mission, i had to cheat to win the fight. Dont know why must have been a bug

[@silverharstem2221]

how is the shading so good mines a little bit blurry around the edges

[@AlexeiVoronin]

Cho'Gall's transformation isn't quite lore-accurate, though. At this point of the timeline, he shouldn't have any relationships with the Old Gods. Not yet, at least. I hope this campaign concludes with the original (albeit non-canonical) ending, where the Horde wins the war and conquers the whole continent.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Originally it seemed to be Cho'Gal turned to the old gods after Rend and Maim almost killed him. But WoD and Chronicle had him serving the Void Lords, the power behind the Old Gods since his time on Draenor. In fact they had him reach out to the various Old God servants and... basically negotiated a lease of Blackrock Spire from Ragnaros. I'm not 100% in favor of this lore, I actually hate the Void Lords being the power behind the Old Gods, but having hi somewhat connected to them works okay.

[@AlexeiVoronin]

@@DIEGhostfish - Aaah, another of Blizzard's countless retcons. Well, what I described was the original lore from the days when WC2 was first released. Void Lords and even Old Gods weren't a thing back then ;)

[@Tritalas]

Supposedly the orcs of Twillight's Hammer discovered the void lords when they resided in Oshu'gun under the dark influence of K'ure.

[@Furion669]

I'am missing Rend in this mission, how can i fix that

[@wilk579]

uhm i have bug i no have 3 hero ;-;

[@L2L732]

2:30 I just realize that this map is the exact position as Maiv’s base and map when she arrived in the Broken Isles hunting Illidan in the future, but older and creepier…….wow, thats some serious dedication!😆🤓⚔️🖤

[@maksymilianziele28]

After that mission there should be extra one where Garona is after all surviving Shadow Council members for revenge, including Cho'gall.

[@x138c]

insane work, fuck

[@Nethrezar]

Cho'Gall is the Bubblebass of Warcraft II.

[@alfredlaalpacadeageofempir9215]

>2:35 *MAIN:* Hunt Down The Dan. >3:47 *OPTNL:* Black Sabbath. >10:21 *MAIN:* Migdal Bavel. >11:12 *SCRT:* Library of Ruin. >13:13 *MAIN:* Bruiser Brothers. >19:02 Mission Accomplished. >8:03 Inka Urco, Hostilis Ex Nihilo. >15:06 Cho & Gal, Enfants Terrible. >2:59 Mur'guls 🥰🥰🥰 >5:04 Every RTS Enjoyer Be Like: >6:18 Fel Beasts kinda Eldritch ngl. >7:07 Odd they're not mindwashed. >Ship Portrait & Voice don't match. >Rend's Sister? Asking for a friend.

[@therealultimatetroi835]

His sister is Griselda, the orc that got executed for eloping with the ogre

[@micuu1]

4:05 that's Maim, always straight to the point (of his swords)

[@AlastorTheDemon]

had this mission bugged, only getting Maim

[@DIEGhostfish]

Interesting hellfire peninsula theme in the final cutscene.

[@ExecutorNral]

Yes, Honor Hold theme. Legendary music there.

[@DarkMegaPlague]

I think they play that theme in the beginning area for Draenei aswell,,, the part when you met some shipwrecked humans, dwarf and elf on azuremyst island.

[@AleksanderDrako]

Wonder, it is more of a Chronicle type of campaign right? As if mostly canon - not with, You can win the war by either side like in case of original Warcraft 1-2 campaigns?

[@DIEGhostfish]

It's weirdly had a lot more Alliance cities fall compared to the original canon, and ESPECIALLY compared to the book canon, but the Alliance is going to bounce back.

[@AleksanderDrako]

@@DIEGhostfish i did heard someone state about W2 campaigns that Orc missions were first and they all but last won and then Alliance campaign kicks in with bounce back. How far fetched is that?