Wardflex Gas Line For Stove

[@jasonreist2528]

From an appliance guys view, we never ran the gasoline w/o the range there because we ran into issues with trying to guess where to place the valve. If we had no choice but to do it w/o the range a usually safe place was 10-11 inches in from either corner. This would usually allow for the range to set against the wall. I feel your pain for getting it across a finished basement ceiling. Never fun. Great video!

[@throttlebottle5906]

yep, near impossibrew to guesstimate and that magical noodle pipe sucks IRL.

[@croyal4240]

Isn't it easier if you use a pipe wrench to tighten pipe and fittings ?

[@tc1904]

I agree, the back left corner is where the anti-tip bracket usually goes on these new ranges. I would’ve put the valves and the stub out somewhere in the middle

[@920HVAC]

A pair of 10” Knipex alligator pliers would work great for the gas pipe work. They are easy on the hands too, Keep up the great videos🤝

[@robertnocerajr3985]

Yeah made inside of Germany 🇩🇪 but I’m always using the blues

[@hkhsm359]

Yep..! Knipex pliers are very good but litte expense. You can buy nearly quality tool more cheaper. I bought horbor freight similar ones. They are working good.

[@print3dsignal427]

Love my knipex alligators, milwaukee pliers are trash.

[@jphvac5725]

I know I always like the monster pipe dope, but I’ve grown to like the thick green stuff better. Ever use it? They all make a mess but it seems to stay wet for longer and easier to remove fittings years later.

[@Bob.W.]

Thx. Enjoying these videos. I detest drywall ceilings in basements. Hanging ceilings are so much more convenient.

[@jazzyboydc]

I had a plumber come out and run a gas line to my dryer. There was confusion involved and he installed flex. A year later I had a different plumber install hard gas pipe. Never was a fan of flex gas line. It works if ur in a pinch. But there is no way I'd allow that in my house. U swing a hammer anywhere near it u got a problem. Just my personal preference

[@bullmoosepiper7732]

I'm not a fan of the CSST either. I use it, but it really boils down to cost. Does the customer want to pay the money to run black iron pipe or not? Most don't. Like most things in life, convenience and reduced cost of install is what most installers and customers will go with. Unless there's a consumer like you that demands black iron instead of CSST, 90% of the time you're getting CSST unless it's an old school plumber who doesn't use it.

[@mr.redneck2715]

I would ask Santa for some nice wrenches!! Crescent wrench would be better than nothing.

[@waltradcliffe4482]

I usually have to put the shut off towards the center and on a 90 to keep it low and more room to slide back on dryers and stoves, my guess that is why the outlet is towards the center too

[@MiHeatingGuy]

Per Manufactures diagram that's where they want it

[@plumbcrazy375]

You do you I'm not trying to busy your balls but I've been a plumber for almost 40 years worked in SF Bay area some of the toughest inspectors

[@larryeaton7384]

Obviously weekend warriors are crammed full of skilled BS. I sympathize with you in tolerating the skilled homeowner in general. I am a skilled professional, skilled as a jack of all trades 72 years long in the tooth. I am in the process of installing a gas line to my kitchen from my existing gas tie ins in my attic approximately 25' from my kitchen wall drop down from my attic furnace. I know what I need and I know what I want and I know how to do it. I appreciate the fact that you are a skilled craftsman with a God given talent to separate the, how too guessers from the how too knowers. There is a big difference! I see from reading a few of your commenting "Guessers" you have challenged the wisdom of the common homeowner to make a simple choice. "Do you want to tackle the job yourself or get a professional craftsman to do the job right the first time according to the local building codes"/ Good question! I was impressed with what you went through to do it right the first time. No holds barred and never say die in the face of the weekend warriors! Do the right thing! Good video!

[@throttlebottle5906]

up next, *callback*, my oven doesn't fit all the way into the blah location, because the gas pipe is in the way.

[@ianberger4605]

Always offset to accomodate the legs

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@ianberger4605 too many of them have exact locations where things can protrude from floor/wall and max distance from wall. while they're somewhat standard not all are and you'll run into headaches. I've seen plumbers/electricians/builders and architects in screaming matches over it before. the fun ones are dual fuel having both 50Amp electric and gas supply, then the oven shows up and has tubing off the gas valve where it says is open space.

[@hkhsm359]

Nice job. It's hard to work on that stuff. Keep posting videos.

[@robertnocerajr3985]

Yeah I definitely understand. It’s easy to find a critic.. but I will never put the supply right in the corner of the cabinet base...and I will trace back to a larger supply.. it seems like an attached unit and I understand that they probably don’t have much larger gas supply available.. but I always bring all furnaces 1” minimum.. and a gas cock isn’t an acceptable shut off on the run. Only for termination points. Use full port ball valve only.. I apologize but I understand and respect that heating guy’s are doing hvac but not necessarily plumbing wise... I suggest getting a ridged 300 for gas work and stay away from flexible gas lines because 1 drywall screw is all it’s going to take to create a disaster.. but thanks for sharing this message here.. making me feel better about what I can do... Robert jr nj here tri state.

[@richardjoseph8683]

I would definitely liked to have seen the gas meter for two reasons. Check for bonding wire for CSST tubing & size of gas pipe at the meter. I doubt he sized the piping correctly without knowing all the loads on the existing system. Also obviously did the job with no permits or inspections. Any alterations to gas piping must be pressure tested to 15 PSI & a riser diagram submitted for proper sizing to the local administrative authority

[@MiHeatingGuy]

This is service not install get straight not reinvent the wheel 250 meter more then enough gas For less then 160k btu in the house

[@richardjoseph8683]

Dude I don't know what state your in but in NJ what you did would never fly & a minimum $2,000 fine. That's a new gas line install not a service call to replace a faucet washer.

[@MiHeatingGuy]

And your point is what

[@plumbcrazy375]

I calculate my gas runs than I know I'm right

[@williammorris3303]

You sounded super excited about this whole thing

[@channeldreams8759]

You should have installed the gas line closer to the center. The feet of the stove will hit the gasline.

[@jeffreymurdock8366]

Not bad. In all the times I've drilled holes in tiles I've never seen or used the style drill bit you have. Just used a diamond cup hole saw without a center bit. Surprisingly its not that hard to do like that but I do like your hole saw better.

[@FredD63]

It’s not tile it’s flooring

[@lloydyoung8628]

Hey , i have a question ? Why put a shut off on both ends of the CSST ? Not a big fan flex , but its the only way to go in a case like that . If you ran iron you would still be there .

[@FredD63]

I would have ran than differently and used Trac pipe and Trac pipe fittings especially the floor flange

[@daviddesilva4971]

What...you edited the video! Thxs for saving us on the boring parts...otherwise a 40 minute vid. Nasty job in a finished basement. Thxs for the vids!

[@andrewwelch5668]

What did you mean by "clamping the gas line up"? Did you mean putting a CSST grounding clamp on it or put a cap on it so that some dummy doesn't start messing with the valve to let gas into the space?

[@m.konwin8372]

How did you leak check bottom of termination plate under floor?

[@greensnapper1602]

Was a Good 1 Thanks Keep them Coming

[@tonydelgrego2906]

Nice job

[@plumbcrazy375]

I would have opened the wall the corners on ranges usually go to the wall

[@robertnocerajr3985]

Absolutely correct

[@richardjoseph8683]

Where he put the termination is not good without knowing the stove model. Anti tip bracket usually goes in the corner. Most stoves have dedicated gas & electrical location's

[@MiHeatingGuy]

Per manafacturer specification that's where they want from the cut sheet

[@plumbcrazy375]

@@robertnocerajr3985 I've put it where they want it and came out totally different even called the manufacturer because there was a concrete stem wall wanted to come up from the floor ha ha

[@3740westmichigan]

@@MiHeatingGuy not on no cut sheet

[@paulmoffat9306]

Make long distance calls? I'm about 1200 miles from you, in Canada. Reason is that I seem to have become invisible to contractors. I contacted one local company, who installed my gas furnace, over 3 times to come out to run a line to my new gas range. Last I saw him, he said be would be over 'next monday'. Silly me, I didn't ask which month or year (it is now 3 months, still waiting, no answer on the phone). Next contractor said 'I need a some time for outside work before ground freeze', that was 11 weeks ago. I'm now thinking of just buying a new electric range (the kitchen is wired for one in the same spot) and give that brand new, unused gas range to some needy person!

[@lloydyoung8628]

Hey Paul , sorry to hear that . If you happen to live in the GTA east of Toronto i could help you . It's too bad when businesses treat their customers that way!

[@robertnocerajr3985]

Anyway at best I’m positive you’re not supposed to use a gas cock as a shut off. Only just prior to the fixture.. I can break a gas cock in half with channel locks.. use a full port ball valve inside of a run.. but I’m definitely guilty of making the same mistake.. thanks again for sharing

[@scorpiorican09]

Trip to box store for ceramic hole saw just to find out it’s not ceramic 🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂

[@ryans413]

What a pain in the backend but you gotta expected that with finished basements

[@natehicks8939]

Could you have not fit a union up there and fit the rest down below and just connect the union?

[@keithschroeder3776]

Start using pipe wrenches.

[@patmadix172]

Good job .

[@throttlebottle5906]

feeling dumb and messing up is al part of life, how you admit to, deal with it and move forward is key! own up to mistakes, correct them and move forward, but don't get burnt by other folks mistakes trying to pin it on you!

[@3740westmichigan]

Will he do a u tube of him going back an having to move the valve over behind the stove ???? Because stove wont push back to wall

[@MiHeatingGuy]

The stove will not go back all the way the wall to begin with because the of the 220 electrical. And that's where the manufacture want you to put the gas line per their diagram

[@3740westmichigan]

@@MiHeatingGuy would like to see diagram never seen one that's in corner 40 years in trade !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@richardjoseph8683]

@@3740westmichigan Your absolutely right. The guys a hack & big bullshiter!!

[@3740westmichigan]

@@richardjoseph8683 thanks you are so right

[@larryeaton7384]

Seeing as how you responded so timely to my comments regarding this video, I figured I would further communicate via this avenue in like manner. I heard you state clearly at the end of this video, how you were approaching a possible tie in to a new or used fire place. I could not find one in your library. Do you have one on making a tie in to a fire place? Also I would like to congratulate you on your SNOOPING skills. For the most part in hiring help as needed, the first thing I wanted to know from a new hire is, " How would you snoop a line for leaks"? If he answered correctly, I considered hiring he or she. If not, I simply scratched my left ear and said, I will let you know soon. I'll call you! I will be honest with you. As long as I follow your skilled videos, I will express my points of view. The first time I see you in trouble, I might even make a suggestion or two! No offence intended! I tried to find your name, even on Amazon. I came up blank, so if you don't mind, I'll call you, "GUY"! I'm watching you, Guy! Later!

[@tracker1ify]

What were you measuring the 16 in for?

[@ATSNorthernMI]

Probably so he didn't drill into an engineered truss.

[@plumbcrazy375]

3/4 gas won't supply enough natural gas for a furnace and range and what ever else that is supplying you need to size gas for cfm

[@robertnocerajr3985]

Absolutely correct

[@MiHeatingGuy]

At 40 ft 3/4 pipe can supply 136 mbh and that is enough for a furnace, water heater and a stove so i don't know where your getting your info from

[@plumbcrazy375]

@@MiHeatingGuy you have to calculate gas from the meter to the furthest point be careful I have a code book you culculate in cfh not btus

[@plumbcrazy375]

You said mbh

[@plumbcrazy375]

@@MiHeatingGuy no way in hell can 3/4 gas supply mbh problem is cfh is how you calculate gas I calculated it and you are short on btu,s ive worked in places where you had to draw it out and they calculated it by 1000 not 1100

[@rollenschultz2707]

The gas line should have been rough in at the time when the house was built

[@MiHeatingGuy]

Should a been done 25 years ago when the condo was built

[@throttlebottle5906]

likely sold on all electric only home with magical great discounted rates for lifetime ++ except that never came to fruition ands now everyone is forked-dry-no-lube ;)

[@JRig2Stx]

Back in the '70, The Door Bell had a All Electric plate...

[@avsyracuse8119]

Nice video & job. ALOT OF ADS!!!!!!

[@7431carlos]

Really in the corner 😂😂😂

[@bradwhite6491]

Drip leg not needed?

[@ratchriat1716]

who said plumbing is easy 😁

[@MiHeatingGuy]

No one

[@richardjoseph8683]

Especially when you have no clue what your doing!!🤣🤣

[@craighvac1808]

Man what is with the channel locks

[@MiHeatingGuy]

????

[@robertpaine3479]

Clock the gas meter

[@MiHeatingGuy]

Why am I gonna clock the gas meter

[@MiHeatingGuy]

??????

[@tomgray2139]

Observe position of test hand on meter with everything off. Watch for a least two minutes, if dial moves, you got a leak.

[@TheFoolishboy9]

@@tomgray2139 Yep or use a 'U' gauge or manometer to perform a tightness test.If there's no drop then no need for spraying. You would lose your license in the UK if they caught you spraying joints without doing a tightness test first.

[@captjack8133]

​@@TheFoolishboy9 Well he's not in the UK and I doubt he gives a rats ass how you guys do it over there haha

[@croyal4240]

I use Gastite myself

[@throttlebottle5906]

ouch, bad placement of the gas! best bet is 9 to 12" in from the cabinet side or 4 to 6" of unit centerline and even that will NOT always work for there is tons of stooge designed collegiate sheeple cruft on the market. everything non-standard and meant to cause you and homeowners massive headaches.

[@DavidBrown-lq2qp]

hope you leak test