Warframe | BFG Revisited | Opticor

[@SomeAssh0le]

This weapons really deserves an incarnon, one that actually gives it a projectile that explodes in a massive radius like the real BFG

[@fluffezic5183]

Most underrated coment ive seen to date

[@Mkrzanu]

Tenet version seem to be a better fit

[@Φλεγόμενη_Ζήλια]

Give it an incarnon that's a wide beam like furis with 1k ammo

[@duskdeadman4333]

THIS! I NEED THIS!

[@bluegolisano7768]

not exactly how the og bfg worked, but decino has a great set of videos covering that. it should work like the modern bfg though; big ball that zaps a bunch of enemies at the same time, cooking a bunch of shit to death. wouldn't be opposed to DE using the original version though, imagine 128 enemies in steel path suddenly disintegrating _after the shot explodes_

[@knicklichtjedi]

I think we need an episode two here with the Opticor Vandal. You also mentioned the Vandal, and personally I think, that the Vandal could have a different build due to higher charge rate.

[@BlueBolt5000]

I agree.

[@gregorystephens9104]

I agree

[@ARCHMAGOS-RATTLEBONES]

I also agree!

[@amiablereaper]

Yeah but.... the grind.....

[@kekistancitizen6900]

OmniVoice: OPTICOR PRIIIIMEEEE!

[@excal_umba2164]

Please I need this the amount of destruction I could do with that thing

[@flamaniax5728]

Opticor is corpus, so the best we can do is Tenet Opticor. It'll still be sick as hell.

[@ddssrr1614]

What you think of the opticor Vandel ?.. pretty solid when it first come out.

[@ryanw.9828]

Collab!

[@TheDaxter11]

@@flamaniax5728 Opticor incarnon and a Tenet Opticor. I imagine they avoid having incarnons for Kuva and Tenate weapons but imagine.

[@K-dis_Boher]

firstly, the vandal version improves a lot of the QOL issues opticor has, but I also found that running it with galvanized aptitude with standard slash setup works really well; especially with pet doing priming for aptitude, it makes it a lot more viable

[@igreshi]

I recommend wyrm prime with the bond mods that give final 1.5x CRIT and 60% fire rate to buff the two things that you felt were missing in your build. another thing that could help is actually double stacking CRIT with critical delay and the galvanized mod I'd replace vigilante armaments. Just off the top of my head that's what I'd try

[@AtomicAlchemist]

Also, put all 4 vigilante mods on the sentinels weapon to get a 20% chance to enhance crits without even needing vigilante mods on the primary weapon

[@unsubme2157]

​@@AtomicAlchemistHOLY SHIT YOU ARE GOD

[@gustavosanches3454]

This is why if you want to use the Opticor you use the Opticor Vandal, it basically turns the BFG into a semi auto laser canon with decent fire rate and bonkers damage + some aoe

[@koultunami9013]

"The Opticor is an old gun" - that hurt

[@SamanthaLaurier]

Ah, my beloved Spartan Laser. I've tuned mine for normal Starchart as that's what I mostly run, and it's just amazing. Love this thing. Also, I love that the end was basically "I'm not too satisfied with the results, but that doesn't mean it's a bad weapon" Too many creators decide that if they can't make it work, then it doesn't work.

[@SwedetasticGames]

I don't exactly remember what update, but it was post-Plains of Eidolon launch, people figured out that the "beam" of the opticor was just a linearized cone, coding wise. So with this, they tried Negative Accuracy. This would cause the "pipe-cone" to start clipping through itself until you had a 180 degree cone of damage with -200%+ Accuracy, and since the beam was Hitscan, it would auto-hit heads in that cone. Was a wild couple of weeks of people using +300% Fire Rate -200% accuracy rivens to make a auto-clicker mapwiping BFG.

[@nicktheninja3166]

Does this still work this way? don't have a rive (yet) but i am wanting to try and build the opticor vandel. Will also have to make a mental note that minus accuracy is a possible buff on that corrupted mod for [select] hitscan

[@SwedetasticGames]

@@nicktheninja3166 no, it sadly got patched years ago

[@nicktheninja3166]

:(

[@C_Kiri]

I understand the struggle here, because when the Vandal came out, I was also in the camp of 'well increasing the fire rate and reducing the damage completely ruins the appeal'. Like, the Opticor is meant to be the ultra-slow windup to stupid big numbers. I kinda wish they'd stop playing scared about it, and just let a weapon like this have a THICK-ass beam. When we're on iteration, like, *ten* of Arca Plasmor-like guns, culminating in the Incarnon Lex Prime being a 'one-shot god and 70% chance to proc slash too' kind of gun, I feel like you could take the Opticor and make that beam the size of the Fluctus, or the explosion the size of the Ogris, and it wouldn't ruin the meta. Considering we just got the Onos and that thing's beam is so deeply... 'not enough', I feel like DE is still scared of that. Know what I mean?

[@shrek9025]

still my most used primary after 7 years

[@MCGamerCZ]

Hello there

[@StevenKaramanolis]

HALLO :D

[@shivm941]

“General Kenobi”

[@bloodraven6413]

HALLO :D

[@julianpeckford-st3wv]

Yw for the gift also use a suda drone on inaros seriously tho it’s bugged rn it’s really funny try it before it gets patched XD

[@flamaniax5728]

Hello!

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

God the Opticor NEEDS an upgrade. The vandal is NOT an upgrade and if you like the feel of the OG opticor the vandal doesn’t even feel like a side grade. They should’ve made a Tenet Opticor.

[@0stre]

O yeah, Tenet Opticor that would be something!

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

@@0stre glaxion wasn’t needed. There’s already a Torid. There isNOT a opticor “prime esc” variant.

[@VexTrooper]

One of the issues I've had with the Opticor weapons is the charge/fire rate. One solution was instead of adding more fire rate mods on the weapon, is to bring in a companion with the [Reinforced Bond] mod, which grants 60% Fire rate to weapons. That way, it frees up a mod slot on your weapon, which you can use to add another damage or status mod

[@Metaretru]

Now this is absolute classic, i remember wrecking the starchart with this badboi and the vandal variant. Opticor need buff, or at least an incarnon badly so it can become the BFG once more!

[@0stre]

No no no, Opticor is ok, other weapons should be nerfed!

[@angelcarranza1558]

Still my most favorite and most used weapon, and I have you to thank for that all those years ago.

[@ddssrr1614]

Back in the day i got a riven for it & the boom it made was amazing. good times.

[@erPinolone]

Jokket, get the Opticor

[@Elcharllis]

Alad v is an odd boss

[@eddoh2701]

Jokket: Normal or Vandal? Boss....boss?

[@benjaminsherry9443]

This gun deserves an incarnon that creates Heavy Barrel Arcade Game/Wave Motion Gun vibes with something like wisps 4 but a bigger beam and not garbage scaling.

[@TheSanto245]

My beautiful Opticor, power crept so hard over the years. What was once the single strongest hitting weapon in the game is now on the low end of damage, even the Vandal version is rough to use. We def need an Opticor incarnon or tenet version. Also, I always felt that the Opticor is more similar to the Gauss Cannon than the BFG, with the Arca Plasmor being the true BFG.

[@NathanTruby]

When they said they were making Incarnons for weapons that have fallen behind, THIS is what I thought they meant. Opticor is by no means a bad weapon. It's just a relic of the past. The 2nd gen Incarnons we got are good, but I just thought they'd do more.

[@trevorromein14]

Its a sad day when you look at the Opticor.....THE WARFRAME BFG......and can only say, "meh" Its like watching someone tear down the sky and all you do is shrug XD

[@Zeroydeas]

When I want to use the good ol' BFG, I grab Kullervo. I have my companion prime enemies with status effects, build for pure damage + Crit on the Opticor itself, no firerate. When I see a big group of enemies, I cast Collective Curse, fire a shot at someone's head once they're primed, and most of the crowd just explodes. It feels really good, but Kullervo is really carrying it there. For the Opticor Vandal, I do build some fire rate, but I also add punch through. It works really well in narrow hallways with the punch through added.

[@ThePopeOfAwesomeness]

I remember the day it came out. Good old days. Use it with the MIGHTY SEER

[@Lunictd]

Ah, yes, the BFG! I have good memories of this and its little Vandal sibling. Maybe I'll check it out again soon. Thank you for the great videos!

[@MRx36000]

Ohhh gosh, how I loved this weapon xD I paid around 2k plat for a riven with +Critchance+CritDmg+FireRate+Recoil. It was totally worth it, I had a lot of fun with it.

[@SOULxxdragon]

Remember back when was trying to get this fun weapon way back when, and really enjoyed the weapon, felt nice using the other variant of our BFG. Thanks for the helpful video MC!

[@SavageGeneticss]

When I first started playing I was in love with the opticor, I still have my old one. Maybe if they ever make more tenet weapons Opticor will get the much needed upgrade is deserves

[@ddssrr1614]

Incarnon would also be sick as hell.

[@Mr.Pidgeon]

Gauss would help immensely with redline, or maybe something from the helminth. A vandal video would be nice in addition to the video. Thanks for the wonderful content as usual. Also, warframe review 2.0?

[@julianpeckford-st3wv]

Glad to be in a opticor video before kuva and incarnons the vandal it used to be my favourite primary it was pretty broken with og viral hunter and heat also yw for the gift and try a suda drone with inaros before the bug gets patched xd

[@maniacalcoast2742]

opticor prime would go crazy with protea prime, buyt i can see tenet opticor being a thing too

[@arcticpolarbear1748]

There’s just a certain charm when watching your videos

[@kumamarru5492]

The Opticor Vandal has been my go to gun ever since I first grinded it. I got it when I was still a newbie to the game after grinding thermia fractures. Needless to say... After using weapons like the Boltor and the Braton, the Opticor Vandal made one hell of a first impression. I still use it to this day. I have an Ability Strength/Duration Rhino with Nourish and a Crit/Fire rate build with a Fire rate/Multishot/CD riven. It ends up feeling like a semi-automatic lazer gun. It's very fun. Still one/two shots enemies even in steel path, and stacks slash/viral procs deceptively well thanks to all the multishot and fire rate bonuses.

[@1110jesse]

One thing I learned after a long time of using hunter munition on many weapons.. Don't just slap it in anywhere and expect it to feel good. Either build around it fully with your whole loadout (primary weapon, primer and frame all make a full combination) to make sure you proc it fast and reliably as possible, and make the most out of it... or then completely half-ass it by running a normal 7 mod build for viral and crit, and just add hunter munition as a last mod instead of something like hammer shot or vigilante armaments. And as far as opticor goes, I'd heavily suggest running with Arcane Acceleration for extra 90% fire rate. I hated the original opticor so much because it was so damn slow. I do like vandal version, not that I use it tho..

[@mikeD1234]

Fantastic philosophy and fantastic series. Keep running those bad weapons bro. I appreciate it.

[@MythicqI]

Opticors outta date onos is the new BFG

[@wailfulcrab]

Just Hunter mumu without viral procs from anything will feel bad

[@unsubme2157]

Nourish is omnipresent

[@bizzarovision]

Things changed in the past 6 years. Before I left, this used to destroy everything and was my main eidolon gun.

[@DailyAri]

Perfect timing, was about to look into this

[@riddarhyttan]

First weapon I hit the visual cap with back in the day. Or rather, Banshee did. It was OK back then but 'Needs help' is the story of this gun.

[@sasaquatch13]

You can help the fire rate with a Wyrm with 1.2k shield and Reinforced Bond

[@Glamador]

I have 5 forma in this weapon and I've loved it forever, but I only ever use the Vandal version nowadays. The fire rate is the most important thing. Hunter Munitions, multishot, and galvanized aptitude to scale the direct hits multiplicatively makes it feel a lot better.

[@Shellnanigans]

The Incarnon should shoot a richocheting solid laser After the shot the Lazer will stay in the environment as a physical object, making contact with enemies and damaging them. I imagine this as one of those "laser walls" from spy movies Finally it will explode along the line

[@TheRealsemaJ]

Note on vigilante supplies MC. If you put 3 of the mods on a sentinel weapon with supplies on the weapon you %20 to enhance crit even if you aren't running a companion that uses gun sentinel weapona.

[@Endymion0021]

Personaly I had my falling out with the Opticor (Vandal) years ago, but with the companion rework, fixing crit modi and fire rate with bond mods or setting up gunCO with Diriga/Hounds salvaged this weapon archetype for me, yet I still think the Quellor being my prefered choice of the pre fire charge weapons, just having a status assault rifle primary fire for flexibility, having the kuva/tenet luxery (innate cold on both modes) of only needing 1 extra status mod for viral and the forced impact proc on the charge shot for internal bleeding lets it work with more builds or on most enemy types in general, only detriment is the limited range on the charge beam but that can be extended with projectile velocity mods.

[@Izanagi009]

I don’t like being that guy but any thought on if this build works on Vandal version

[@StudentDriverBR]

I remember using it in Vay Hek raids back in 2015/2016 i painted it to look like the Halo 3 M6 Spartan Laser, even with my crap build it was able to hit kill the enemies lol

[@ugandalorian495]

Well since I’ve seen that inaros and hydroid can armor strip Could you do it with other Warframes Just opinion

[@Sole_Samurai]

are we getting tenent opticor? :^) I will be watching the dev stream. I am excited.

[@potatoaim002]

I remember receiving this gun when I was only MR5 idk how it worked but I did. Was unloved with it since, still have it till this day and it has 15 forma to it because of the changes with each update

[@Crazedwaffledevourer]

Oh my god, that gun used to be my main primary

[@VengeDracul]

Nice. I have the Vandal version and a Riven for it. 😂 I should fool around with it one day lol😂

[@TheEvanDude112]

It is a goddamn crime we never got a Tenet Opticor

[@dancingimmortal448]

its issue is the fact its not strong enough to run full ctir or status, its just a raw damage weapon that needs something.

[@undercoverbreadbug2723]

You can only do so much for the Opticor, atleast you gave it a chance.

[@Dracowinges]

Remember making a -fire rate setup for it, its hilariously slow.

[@heresy0615]

Vandal varian next also, is that a glitch on the bottom left corner when you are aiming or just me?

[@kilmcm45]

I was going to ask why not the Opticor Vandal? I think we might have a Tenet Opticor coming soon....?

[@Raso719]

The vandal is my go to. Somehow it always seems to hit harder. Of course I haven't used either and quite some time....

[@theh7898]

Hopefully we get a Tenet Opticor soon

[@WillowLawson-k3e]

My opticor vandal with the typical build vile vital hammer chamber aptitude viral, on zephyr is nuts and on mags bubble it shines with grouping

[@maxineshideout852]

The opticor is one of my alltime favorite weapons together with the Ferrox and sadly the Opticor just hasnt been able to move with the times. Back in the day it just oneshot everything and now it needs so much ontop to do much in steel path, star chart still oneshots but still sad

[@mwyler3390]

with the built in magnetic damage in the explosion combined with very "methodical" fire rate, ive had decent utility with the Primary Obstruct Arcane. Disarms enemies within 15 after a mag proc albeit with a cooldown. While you do lose the damage potential of other arcanes, I think its worth a try if you have something more akin to hot weapon swap playstyle.

[@pupuchi5842]

Hoping this is the new tenet weapon they teased on devshorts today

[@drHandOff]

prime shred, basic punch through is only 1m, so u boost both ability to kill groups and fire rate

[@Dracowinges]

Question about corrosive, if you put the shard that increases the stacks, but you don't have a source of corrosive, but your companion does, does that increase it too, or just if you apply them?

[@kilmcm45]

Hunter munitions is fine on this.....and since the explosions do magnetic, it works fine on corpus....which aren't as weak to viral+slash combo. Radiation+toxic with the Primary Blight arcane...I can even fit hunter munitions....the slash and toxic with all the extra crit damage....this is great against every enemy in the game and I've even used it on the big robo-spider

[@Silvrsterlng]

Maybe I'm just crazy, but I genuinely think the only thing that holds Opticor/Opticor Vandal back is the magnetic aoe; I swear every time I use it half my headshots do no damage because the aoe took priority instead of the massive laser part. Also the fact that it got self-stagger when the aoe changes went live also is mildly annoying.

[@flamaniax5728]

Yo, I did not expect anyone to get my name right on the first try! Most people usually get it wrong! Well, if I can make a suggestion, why not run it on Gauss? Redline boosts the fire rate, and the Redline version of Hot+Cold Thermal Sunder will strip all of the armor from a foe. Hm... Maybe I should try it? I've got Opticor vandal, but it shouldn't be too different, right?

[@coffeeonmyfoot86]

Diriga arc coil, bond mods DeadheadGalv aptitude, galv chamber, galv scope, moar crit, corrosive fire rate etc No Hunter Munitions, just big pp dmg. Its okay for base SP, but not for any higher level content. One shots fodder and two shots eximus.

[@ardekakka]

qorvex (punchthrough and a grouping tool), arcane acceleration, reinforced bond, viral + electric or more crit + gas and bam, ragdoll grouping tools + electric are nasty stinky

[@米切爾魏特曼]

Last time I use Opticor was in circuit I didn't get it fully build with viral slash but still bring it to level 4k SP, hunter munition work quite well on it while it go brrrrrrrrra with infinity ammo😂😂😂😂.

[@Ianpact]

Hm, wonder if the opticor is slated for being among the new tenet weapons?

[@BZUltimix]

Opticor is still a meta-based weapon just a very old one lol, and I have yet to get the Vandal but I be lazy with thermal fractures xD

[@techothunder4166]

Have you tried Opticor Vandal? I has a faster fire rate, and a bigger AOE

[@theeternalslaughter]

You should try primary frostbite, it's amazing how much crit it gives per shot and per cold stack

[@theeternalslaughter]

Mix some corrosive w\status chance + radiation + cold and add primary frostbite with some raw DMG and crit and some weapons will wreck everything up, like the bubonico that with a similar build smashes through anything even steel path and specially if your Warframe freezes enemies

[@GARJV]

try it with wisp??? her increase fire rate might make up for its slow wind up

[@NorthInium]

I still wanted to have more tenet weapons. Like the exergis, opticor or lenz would have lend themselves perfect additions to the tenet catalog. I still feel like DE cheaped out on the Tenet weapons.

[@paulcook4251]

Been looking, its actually fodder. I cant think of a single build where there it doesnt require immense outside buffing My only “unique” build is camp nidus with parasitic vitality and teeming virulence, tek adarza, gas and electric

[@eyalamit5120]

I have a decent build for it. But it uses an Incarnon with more crit chance and fire rate. Still a wee bit slow but pretty consistent.

[@kekistancitizen6900]

I switched for vandal long ago, and fire rate issue is not that big anymore

[@lagartopunkarra]

Yeah, nowadays if you want an Opticor you just get the Opticor Vandal, the original one is a bit too slow

[@ML7WL]

To me it could keep the slow charge, but amping the damage and giving it full body punch through exploding for smallER (the distribution it has now is kinda low) damage with each enemy the beam touches...or even putting the explosion only when hitting a surface BUT prolonging the duration of the beam;d on't even need to be a held trigger, just firing the laser for some seconds allowing the player to move the stream to hit more enemies or the enemies to walk into it. Or both changes above combined?

[@Kowalzky]

2:32 Is that weird effect on the bottom left due to the zariman ephemera?

[@silfrido1768]

You need to run arcane acceleration with this weapon

[@ivocoelho8694]

You have the other opticor so this one feels a lot bad. I would like you to have compared them in same video. Ya now same build different outcome but by how much. Still a thumbs up for me. I love your videos.

[@RicardoAlmeidatm]

They should make it so if the beam pierces more than one target it explodes multiple times. Would that probably make it completely broken with enough clumped up targets? Yes. Do I care? No.

[@Nightmareblackop]

Your last build is kind wonky. Like your didnt even use a dedicated crit mod at the end so there was no point strike or critical delay so that would make your damage all over the place. My suggestion similar build but ensure u have a crit mod, vigilante set bonus and instead of Inarous run it with Gauss or Whisp for the fire rate buff and then u will absolutely love it

[@AnymMusic]

imo the Opticor should get much more damage in exchange for a smaller explosion radius. Like, it looks like it's meant to be a tank buster weapon. Single target, slow fire rate, super high damage..... but as it stands now it doesn't have the super high dmg :(

[@decepticonsoundwave297]

That sounds like something they'd do for a Tenet version

[@A_Stratos445]

Do the twin rogga next!

[@michaelchang6736]

I put a lot of charge rate on it so it fires extremely quickly, damage is a bit lacking

[@crowofrevelry]

Replace the charge time with a delay between shots and it'll probably feel better. Alas.

[@GabiDudu1000]

Inaros build video?

[@benleighton9013]

would this build be better on the vandel version?

[@Bagheera2]

I have problems actually getting it to register headshots because the beam seems to be so "wide"

[@daemoh3696]

A Slash build without viral?

[@jasonglebe3235]

The Opticor isn't the BFG. The Opticor is the Spartan Laser. The Arca Plasmor is the BFG

[@M-Filip]

TBH I forgot about this weapon

[@DexterPerez-nx8dv]

U should use arcane acceleration and avenger on a frame that doesnt need arcanes

[@keetongu9511]

The opticor is essentially a bow that doesn't recieve the double fire rate bonus bows get. Poor weapon :

[@gravidust.2]

Just like the lenz, it's alt is what it should have been