Warframe, please DON'T NERF this Mesa!

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

How do you play your Mesa? Quick corrections regarding the vid: 1. Unfortunately only Wyrm PRIME can get over 1200 Shields, not the normal one :/ 2. You can have Combat Discipline at max rank because the damage reduction from Mesa's 3 applies to this aswell making it safe. Thank you for pointing these out 😉

[@roskameis636]

in a wrong way

[@asdf30111]

I build her for single target damage, rather then nuking, way cheaper and still super useful for disruption.

[@skuawill1820]

Hi, hardcore Mesa main here :) I posted Replyed twice by now but youtube deletes it for some reason, probably cus i posted the link from overframe with my whole build. I guess imma type in here i guess. So for mesa i use full umbral mods, Primed Redirection and sure footed with duration, effiency and strength. For arcanes i go with Arachne and velocity. Also 5x Tauforged topaz shards. and also which is gonna be weird is for hemith i use Infested Mobility. Cus mesa is already doing nuke dmg so i would rather go for mobility. Secondary Epitaph for putting corrosive, heat and cold status effects. With Seconondary Outburst. Melee Ceramic dagger only build for initial combo that i can go up to 209 (11x combo) It also does dmg but not the purpose of it. Pet Adrza Kavat same bond mods with final crit and fire rate. Thats my build. Curious what ur gonna say about it.

[@Sasorika_Prime]

I started to use Mesa withou Peacemaker, focusing on Ballistic Battery + Ballistic Bullseye. Worth a video?

[@B3nny0200]

​@@skuawill1820i play her almost the same way. Besides the new shards and without the tankyness. But she still does a good job

[@voltzbohton2574]

fun fact, saying " please don't nerf this" then saying that it's "broken and /busted" may result in the develovpers nerfing said build.

[@Frodo-zi9bz]

Yeah not the brightest move lol.

[@ironcrysisblacktvgaming8070]

Yeah the melee arcane is getting nerfed it can literally give u a x12 combo for the rest of the game even if u heavy attack it wont wither away, and it just works soo well with outburst theres no way this wont get nerfed, even a rank 0 melee crescendo is broken

[@ironcrysisblacktvgaming8070]

It got nerfed

[@aldovk6681]

This guy knows what he’s doing

[@Pingüinazo01]

​@@Frodo-zi9bzHe did it because it's a much attractive title, he doesn't care if they nerf it or not

[@sonsoffishes1]

Been away 6 years. Blown away by how much has changed and the build breadth and depth achievable. It's amazing and overwhelming at the same time.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Wow, after 6 years, definitely :O There's a lot of new stuff. But I'm sure you'll be able to wrap your head around it ;)

[@hyne1234]

2:26 Regulators 16:12 Wyrm 15:56 Mesa 10:19 Bronco 10:32 Furax 7:43 Vulcax (Wyrm gun) 13:10 extra Wyrm mod explanations

[@MajorBraumstrong]

Cool build, two notes though: - Shatter Shield actually reduces damage taken from Combat Discipline and due to rounding it actually prevents any damage up to and including R4 Combat Discipline (at R5 you only take 1 damage per kill with Shatter Shield active). You can even see in the video that killing enemies doesn't chip her health in the slightest. Since you should already always have Shatter Shield on, this means you can use R4 Combat Discipline, giving you +8 capacity, which just so happens to be the exact amount that an Umbral Forma saves you, so you can avoid using it in this build. As to the interaction with Arcane Avenger - worry not, even taking 0 health damage still counts as taking health damage, so there's no issue with activating it. If this interaction is a bug, it might or might not get fixed sometime in the future, but for now we can use it to our advantage. - It might be worth considering to use 2 green shards in place of 2 of the orange ones, to get a total of +4 max corrosive stacks. This makes the crits slightly weaker (on Mesa's Regulators it ends up being 25% less final crit chance), however for unarmored enemies, that crit chance isn't really needed, as this build is an overkill for anything not protected by armor. 2 green shards however, make it possible to fullstrip enemies, so long as you use corrosive on your Regulators. This (especially in longer SP runs) ends up yielding much higher DPS than making that extra crit chance and the +75% corrosive damage bonus vs Ferrite Armor (which you ofc lose once the target is stripped). So, if you're willing to accept seeing slightly less red crits to instead melt heavily armored enemies much more quickly, green shards are probably what you'd wanna go with.

[@fatboimason5067]

If u somehow want even more firerate, equip the afentis as the primary. Use only the secondary fire that throws the spear down forming a bubble, when in the bubble you get decreased recoil, and 100% increase in firerate and reload speed. His speargun can be throw down as many times as u want.

[@fatboimason5067]

if you want to put mods on it, id recommend only ammo and fire rate mods

[@rayferno3269]

I have recently started building Mesa after i finally finished building my Wisp, so this video came like a godsend for me! Thank you for your hard work as always Blacky 👍

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Aaaw perfect timing :D Thank you for the sweet words and the nice feedback

[@burdleyq]

Honestly the build lost me when asking to use not only the bronco, but asking me to get finisher kills. I’d rather stick to ceramic dagger and use a good secondary too.

[@migglethemiglet9824]

Just use rauta and skip ceramic, every time the buff goes off just shoot rauta a few times and you’re good

[@Daniel._..]

just use the ceramic dagger, you won't get that 45% fire rate, but you get 25% Parkour velocity from the ceramic dagger, and you can use evolution 2 of the ceramic dagger "gun and blade" to get +100 initial combo by killing 100 enemies with your mesa 4 (they count for some reason). and then you can get an x9 combo without doing any finishers, and if you want to get to x12, it's really easy to get finishers with a dagger, just heavy attack an enemy with a dagger, and spame X, (Enemies are vulnerable to finishers upon being hit by a Heavy Attack with any Dagger weapon). and going from x9 to x12 is way faster than doing it all the way from x1. and if you don't want to do any finishers you can use the rauta like Miggle suggested, but then you need to switch back to your pistol to activate the buff and you are locked to that primary, it's more fun for me to just E+LeftClick every 30 seconds.

[@parker4025]

@@Daniel._..lol a heavy attack from my dagger is going to kill anything it touches immediately idk if I’m getting a finisher off anything but an eximus

[@diabolo9446]

​@@migglethemiglet9824still doing like it today, rauta + furax with his amalgame mod gives the feeling of a fully agreed build

[@chillmydudes]

there is a crazy thing you can do called ‘properly modding your mesa and favourite weapons’ which works just as well and takes no setup at all

[@christianskidmore4830]

Or, you can do the fun build because it is indeed fun

[@fabim9144]

I realise this is an older Video and you might have found out yourself already. but if you use archon continuity on your Mesa, you only have to add toxin to the regulators in order to get corrosive ON TOP of the Toxin damage. so 2 Status effects with only ONE elemental mod on the regulators, that gives you the option to add a Base Damage mod like hornet strike. some arcanes work while other dont. Precision works but Fortifier doesnt, Deadhead works and havent tried encumber yet. you can use a sentinel as a Status spreader. using Verglas you can easily spread cold and freeze entire groups or if you add toxing to it, you will spread viral, the companion bond mods are crucial for that, as MHB has done in this video, I would recommend replacing her first with nourish and spreading cold with Nautilus and Verglas, . I also use the muzzle flash augment to blind enemies permanently which incapacitates them completely and applies the stealth dmg multiplier. Replace Anemic Agility with Accelerated Isotop so that instead of losing damage you add to it, that one mod makes a huge difference in the end because not only are you adding to the total damage but also apply another status effect which boosts the dmg buff from galvanized shot. now you apply 3 different types of status effects with just your regulators; toxin, corrosive and radiation. then Cold from the sentinel and Viral from Nourish. plus whatever status effects the enemies try to apply to you by reflecting their bullets with your 3rd.

[@persleng1536]

You don’t mod corrosive for it’s status effect, you mod it for the faction damage bonus

[@jacksonparker39]

@@persleng1536even so corrosive and radiation with only 2 mods is insane and like he said with the sentinel taking care of cold and heat youve got the whole bracket under your belt

[@mythcql]

Mesa should be known as “Body Regulating Unit”

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Haha regulating the numbers of bodies in the room xD

[@ochan4924]

Mesa could regulate my body

[@Unknown-gq4qg]

​@@ochan4924lol

[@Aegis4521]

@@Unknown-gq4qgshut up

[@Unknown-gq4qg]

@@Aegis4521 child

[@primate6854]

"please DON'T NERF this Mesa!" Proceeds to list off perfect synergy and tailor made builds that requires not just a melee but also a secondary and a companion dedicated to the build. If they nerf it they got something personal.

[@twoheadedgiantgaming7029]

Vulpaphylas and hounds can both get reinforced and tenacious bond with full uptime, and hounds can status prime really well, while vulps can keep the buffs active while downed and in sentinel mode

[@deanradley65]

Whilst this is true if you don’t have bite mod, which is a pain to get, you don’t get the crit boost from tenacious bond. Whereas with a sentinel and Vulklok you just boost its crit with critical delay etc.

[@lookalike4805]

How are you getting 50% Crit Chance on your Hound ? 🤔

[@hydraPV]

dude, this is insane, this is building, you are insane, keep going like this

[@dhananjayaperera3560]

new players forget this build

[@ricksanchez7849]

true

[@satoutatsuhiro866]

new players can still use all of the mods showed here as they get them. Arguing that new players can not affort the build is pointless.

[@kena6812]

@@satoutatsuhiro866 By "all of the mods" are you including the mods exclusive to old nightwave series that havent been available for literal years?

[@zephyrosend3281]

I appreciate your work, the meticulous build, and love how extreme it goes, but I would also appreciate it if in the disclaimer, along with the complexity element, you mentioned the absolute insanity of investment in it. 4 Topaz (so 8 'normal') archon shards maxed Primed Redirection (introduced just last month) maxed Secondary Outburst Melee Crescendo (the higher, the more expensive) I'm not necessarily saying everything should be a budget build, but I'd like to know how easy or difficult it is to replicate before having to watch the entire video to figure out I'll need several months of farming just to consider getting this. That said, thank you for thinking these out and putting them together.

[@lowsyawe]

Yeah this is kinda my issue with some of his builds, great work but he doesn't mention costs as much as he should.

[@kevokev4009]

thing is its like this for every warframe. its almost implied.

[@zephyrosend3281]

@@kevokev4009 I appreciate that optimizing a warframe would take similar resources for each, but wouldn't you rather have at least the basic list of materials before you start cooking, rather than in the middle of it? :P

[@sniperloic2904]

>Be me >Doesnt have bronco cause its shit nor augment due to 4 years gap >checks my weapons and realises Zakti opens to finisher when it detonates >Profit

[@LeonTheFallenOne]

15:56 for Mesa Combat discipline+ Mesa's Waltz Rolling guard - primed Redirection - umbral intensify - primed continuity Primed flow - adaption - equilibrium - blind rage. Arcane velocity and avenger.

[@potroastmutt7915]

TIL that Combat Discipline can proc health damage triggers. This opens up so many weird build ideas

[@torunsmok5890]

It's been basically mandatory for chroma since shield gating was made a universal thing

[@Siilur]

4:00 apparently the normal Wyrm only has a base shield of 250 (875 with primed redirection). So i guess, i have to wait for my foundry to complete Wyrm Prime :')

[@Synkhan]

combat discipline combo stacking can be achieved much faster by using Vazarin focus schools second ability (group ragdoll), which opens them up to ground finishers thats still count towards combat discipline. Much faster and easier to set up with most melee weapons. Rest of the build is pretty cool.

[@Lucas-zw2mj]

Woah this is high level content. Amazing guide

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Aaaaw thank you ❤️

[@busyenough]

this is too much work for my lazy ass, but i take about half of it. Tyvm for the video :)

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Haha that's fair xD Wish you much fun ^^

[@aximoral3657]

honestly you dont even need everything about the build , just have around half the fire rate from the video and have arcane avenger and all the required mods for regulators with nourish and ur all good. Secondary outburst isnt really needed if you're going for low steel path content. Although for things like netracells you might need the full build.

[@blueglas7463]

​​​@@aximoral3657 Low SP? I don't use secondary outburst either and my Mesa still shreds in all content, even in EDA.

[@aximoral3657]

@@blueglas7463 yeah mb i sent that comment before i completed the build , with the build complete (except outburst) , its shredding to extremely high lvls

[@Luismi386]

Hi! About Combat Discipline, you can have it at rank 3 (maybe even 4), and the 95% damage reduction from your 3rd ability makes it that you are not damaged by the aura mod, but the arcane triggers

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you for the heads up, for some reason this didn't struck me xD

[@davidcermak6966]

fun fact you can actually boost firerate even more using afentis as your primary because of its unique trait for another + 20 percent firerate

[@Crimson63194]

Ive had mesa prime for ages but never knew how to build her, so seeing this is awesome to see, thank you so much for this amazing video

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Aaaaw thank you for the sweet feedback ❤️ To be fair, there are more accessable ways to build her, too. So don't feel forced to fully replicate this super minmaxed build 😉

[@tenozz]

Anemic agility can be replaced with new Accelerated isotope mod, giving extra DMG and survivability

[@brokendreams5298]

Spend 10 minutes building finisher kills ---> its an extermination mission that my teammates did in 40 seconds.

[@PrueferAuge]

15:02 vulcax build 16:01 wyrm build

[@brandonsmith5127]

i love the niche builds that are coming out now with the whispers in the wall and the archon fusion. tactical potato did one on ember fire mage and its great to see this level of synergy between all the modifiers the game has to offer. even with the setup needed with the melee arcane, like you said after setup it wipes the rest of the way, so its only viable in missions that are endless { survival, interception, defense} but still top of its class. Keep up the good work and love the video

[@TRBN420]

you can mod the shields of panzer vulperphylers to over 1200 aswell + overguard when reloading. no wyrm prime needed

[@noahboddie3482]

But you couldnt use the robotic mod that instantly restores shield would you?

[@TRBN420]

@@noahboddie3482 you're right. wouldnt be that much of a downside anyways because of shield gating but with panzer vulp you barely reach 1200 shield and you only get the overshield for it when you reloade. with mesa you dont reloade that often so we woulnd get that fire rate buff all that often. havent thought about that ^^'

[@satoutatsuhiro866]

I like panzer because you do not need to invest into shields as much since panzer can also keep you alive to some extend.

[@srdjan72624]

After spending 2000 plat and millions of credits to acquire everything from the video I just realized that melee crescendo does not give you x6 multiplier after 1 finisher... you need to finish 40 enemies before you get the maximum secondary outburst multiplier value and good luck finishing 40 lv 160+ enemies, its gonna take you like 20 minutes to do that AND you have to do it without dying or you lose all your combo. I suggest people dont buy melee crescendo and leave that arcane slot empty, you can still buy secondary outburst as you start with 2x combo multiplier at the start of a mission so thats free +40% crit chance and crit damage :)

[@Itachiiiiii09]

ceramic dagger incarnon is a better choice

[@valerijusilkevic5502]

​@@Itachiiiiii09Its fixed 😂 And dont need anythink. Running corrosive+heat reggulators. No problems what so ever 😂 P.s got Topazes.

[@Itachiiiiii09]

@@valerijusilkevic5502 it aint tho ....

[@valerijusilkevic5502]

@@Itachiiiiii09 My bad :D Every ones goes for Furax now. So i thought it got fixed.

[@bubblegumpop078]

Not to sure if others are doing this but this is what i decided to do, use the okina incarnon get the perks of "seing red" for extra combo when you hit enemies affected by slash and take the other perk that pauses the combo duration when holster this is just for QOL purposes, anyways for the 3rd perk get the status chance perk and the mods i use are, spinning needle (stance mod), discipline merit (tennokai), galvanized reflex, quickening, relentless combination, jagged edge, weeping wounds, corrupt charge, fury and carnis mandable with all these mods you juice the fuck out of slash procs and bc of the slash procs you build insane combos verry easily you can stack off all the way to 12x combo points from 1 single target and enjoy sec outburst this set up is insane it builds max combo verry verry verry fast in a snap been using it and it works well. You can test it out for your self in the dummy area and its a cheap set up unlike the ceramic dagger thats expensive asf and dosent require you to kill 100 enemies w primary

[@TheDaracknoid]

Well i cant put primed pistol gambit for some reason Edit: i figured out why it was allready on

[@chadikhr7258]

GOOFY ah mistake

[@canolathra6865]

You can actually use up to rank 4 combat discipline and not take damage while your 3 is active, which can give you some better mod capacity.

[@flaretheninja8718]

*For anyone wanting to scale Mesa to level cap, this is what you will need to know and what you should do (prepare for two long paragraphs):* Lets begin, galv shot isn't better than a faction mod in the long run as base damage falls off + going corrosive heat is much better to synergize with your archon shards, so swap out galv shot + anemic agility for primed heated charge + a primed expel mod while also using primed convulsion and pathogen rounds over 60/60, all you need is rolling guard and catalyzing shields to survive as damage reduction falls off compared to gating and crowd control, should add 2 green shards to armor strip and 2-3 topaz crit shards, 1 cast speed shard (all better as tau forged), adding the muzzle flash augment for mesa's 2 gives you more broken amounts of cc and building more range is better by adding stretch and augur reach to shield gate (over equilibrium and primed redirection), melee crescendo is nice and all but ceramic dagger and tandem bond on your pet is much easier to maintain when the enemies will not die to finishers, use a maxed combat discipline because mesa 3 negates all damage done by it but still procs nourish viral wave and arcane avenger, you do not need Wyrm Prime to get 1200 shields and instead you can bring a high magazine secondary and use the passive reload magazine mod when holstered to trigger reinforced bonds overshield gain on your pet and maintain the fire rate buff (I use the Dex Furis). Using Vazarin to get protective sling is a good idea, Madurai for cast speed/damage/sling strength or Zenurik will for more energy so pick any for your focus school. As for the primary, I have been using the Burston and Latron incarnons for incredible scaling dps, even though I still end up using regulators more anyways. My pet is usually the Adarza Kavat for another 60% crit and because I find most beast mods better than robotic mods (tandem bond is also beast exclusive). The kavat dies sometimes, but with Tenacious, Tandem, Reinforced AND Momentous Bond, it comes back incredibly quick in level cap runs. Are you going to miss out on guardian and manifold bond? Yes. Do you need either for this set up/skill level? No. The exilus is personal preference, I do not run waltz because it removes the knockdown immunity when falling (and I like seeing the animation when mesa shoots) and I use primed sure-footed, but this is a semi-flex slot and can also be waltz/power drift/cunning drift. For the waltz lovers, it can save your energy and pairs with rolling guard/dodge speed increases, bear that in mind. Making these changes will bring you a more scaling Mesa build that can be brought for all types of endurance runs, bear in mind that this is not needed and most players do not care about this, but some do including myself and this is what I would do to make the most min maxed build you can get. If you don't care about level cap runs or even steel path, highly suggest building completely into peacemaker and ignoring the some of the range + survivability + shield gating shenanigans. *Side Notes:* Precision intensify is NOT a good idea for min maxing, trust me, I have tested this, and will give diminishing returns in the scaling scheme, while also weakening your shooting gallery and nourish substantially. Pillage is probably the only other good alternative for a helminth but I do not like it as much. Do realize that Eclipse and are Roar are diminishing returns with the former being inconsistent and the latter just not benefiting the build anywhere near to what Nourish provides. Brief Respite in the aura is solid and will help shield gate, but is not needed as negative efficiency and 1 augur mod on your frame + 2 augur mods on your secondary will allow full shield gates with 3 out of the 4 abilities (and because you will miss out of the nourish viral explosion and arcane avenger). Afentis is an option for Balisitari Might and it's fire rate buff, but god is it awful having to do that all the time, I would rather have a competent primary for when I am not shooting regulators. The flex slot in the build would be stretch (as augur reach is necessary), so you can swap stretch for streamline or anything else "reasonable" if you please. Yes, I know the Panzer keeps the bond buffs when its down, but as I already said my kavat comes back so fast that I do not need it. And again, please do not come at me for "GUARDIAN U MISSIN GUARDIAN WHERE SENTINEL" my friend I am aware, Guardian is what you do if you are not an incredibly consistent shield gater and can not handle the stress of level cap runs, however, if you are skilled at shield gating you will never ever need it and I said this is MINMAXED for experienced players and I have played Mesa so much by this point that I can safely do gating myself. The Nourish, Shooting Gallery AND Muzzle Flash cc will help you stay alive regardless, just don't get melee'd. There is a cool Rauta trick to which helps you get your combo back so fast but Tandem bond is super good already so I don't run it and the ceramic dagger fits my playstyle more. Do not listen to anyways who says subsume over Mesa's 2, or says her 2 is not good or the augment is not useful and thus she shouldn't be built for range, they are completely wrong and assume they do not play Mesa. Cheers + great video MHBlacky

[@alexm1707]

Replying so I can find this later

[@Jordyitus19993]

yes

[@flaviokelmer1109]

😮

[@JonWitNoH-k2v]

What is the fire rate cap on the regulators? (Is there one?) Also, what shards should I use? I have one green and 4 red on her. The reds are all secondary crit and the green is corosive dmg but would the more coros stacks be better?

[@flaretheninja8718]

@@JonWitNoH-k2v mesas regulators do not have a fire rate, however there is still not infinite exponential way to increase it to infinite fire rate yet. As for shards, as I said in the comment, sticking with the 2 corrosive green shards to allow armor strip is a MUST and its good you have it. Red shards are now beaten by topaz shards, so I recommend switching in 3 of those. If you want, you can go 2 topaz and 1 cast speed yellow shard or 1 energy max blue shard.

[@20xdee6]

A couple notes: Panzer Vulpaphyla can also get both bond mod bonuses easily, so you don't have to use Wyrm Prime, which depending on the mission, might be a better idea overall. The Viral Quills in particular are useful. Galvanized Shot is currently bugged so that Mesa doesn't get to see the full bonuses applied to Peacemakers, so generally people aren't using it right now. This is why either bane mod or a third elemental mod gets slotted in there. Using a max ranked Combat Discipline is not actually detrimental to your build, because Shatter Shield reduces the hit to 1 hp per kill due to the way Combat Discipline applies the damage to you. You are worse off for being forced to take a suboptimal capacity bonus if you don't.

[@KhoiNguyen-iq3gj]

How do i get crit on my panzer

[@QxTYoko]

@@KhoiNguyen-iq3gj you need to get either hunter synergy mod or bite mod.

[@ajschwartz3924]

You could theoretically make this build even more crazy with precision intensify instead of umbral. Because it gives a 90% increase to your 4th ability strength when maxxed out.

[@MilanVannooij]

Could u help me abit? Im new and dont see a single mesa build every1 agrees on

[@TheUnstableThinker]

@@MilanVannooij That's honestly because there isn't one, she's a very forma intensive 'Frame, so there's a lot of discourse on how to make her work.

[@shockmaker1524]

Don't you sacc dmg resist for the 3rd skill this way?

[@SudoNitro]

@@shockmaker1524 nah doesn't affect it

[@silentreaper5805]

U can have combat discipline at max rank. Her 95% dmg reduction actually applies to combat discipline making it only do 1 dmg anyway. That way you get the benefit of more capacity and more healing for Allies

[@sodreir.8666]

Suffered through Mutalist Alad V to build her non-Prime version. Worth it

[@handler89]

Hey, how did you manage to get past him?

[@sodreir.8666]

@@handler89 Invisible Octavia, Rubico with max zoom, headshots only.

[@totodomination6809]

Been waiting to see your Mesa build for awhile now! Thanks for sharing. Good stuff!

[@DrewBoivie]

Why would they nerf this Mesa? Its an incremental improvement over how strong Mesa has always been (S-tier on most everyone's list every year). The big thing this guide demonstrated for me was how flexible Mesa modding is. For instance, while I made a lot of changes based on this video, I kept some things like heat on Regulators with Archon Vitality, Catalyzing Shields, Natural Talent, etc.

[@codythelavabucket2678]

I just got mesa so this is a godsend video, thanks Blacky

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Aaaaw thank you ❤️ Wish you much fun with her ^^

[@Chromus505]

its already been confirmed by pablo that the topaz shards are not working as intended, they are giving final crit multiplier like avenger, instead of the regular crit chance which is gonna be changed

[@doootheytho9821]

I thought it was already patched in the last hotfix

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

This. This video should be having eveything working as intended.

[@Chromus505]

@@MHBlacky_ENG oh, in that case then yeah the build shouldnt be nerfed

[@MstarSmith]

This is a cool alternative. I was expecting another ceramic dagger vid but this is surprisingly refreshing! Thanks!

[@sportakous]

I AINT DOING ALLAT

[@jordimsx8105]

It's nice to see some advanced builds in your videos, not just begginers stuff. Great synergy. Going to test it today. I would add a part to talk about fornas in theese builds, as it might be the real challenge for non veterans to build this pack (Frame-weapons-sentinel). Excellent work. Keep at it.

[@teadid5663]

you lost me at needing your ENTIRE loadout having a very specific type of build/mods and some obscure arcanes

[@OsirusIrdia]

the arcanes are very common and not obscure, avenger and combat discipline go hand-in-hand. Arcane velocity is less commonly used, I'll give you that. But any build that focuses on secondary damage or the warframe's weapon is a secondary makes it very useful (titania comes to mind).

[@Ronin_Wrath]

havent played the game for a long time now but this was really entertaining to watch

[@stalkerosadcij1298]

you said ''Wyrm or Wyrm prime'' But the default wyrm can not exceed 1200 Shield even with redirect. I bought it thinking it would but at the end was disappointed.

[@karofy754]

i would say mesa was a top 3 warframe back in the olden days of warframe back in 2014 or 15 wen she got added nd she could solo defense till wave 40 which was unheard of back then

[@brandonsmith5127]

but to be fair she needed a balance, especially in comparison to the rest of the frames, although niche this build seems incredible

[@lukigugu4854]

You can do cascadia flare on your secondary, your primary will be ignis, ingame you proc. cascadia flare with ignis for 480% dmg boost than you can press 4

[@rolandholpar1074]

This is not the first video from you im watch!!you videos are awsome!!!

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Aaaaw thank you ❤️ I'm happy that you enjoy them so much. It really means a lot 😉

[@deanradley65]

Where’s the heat damage for the topaz shards buff coming from?

[@AlexIatan-p4r]

bronco

[@deanradley65]

@@AlexIatan-p4r Ah so the crit buff you get from killing an enemy inflicted with heat is permanent?

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Yes, it is 😉

[@LetrollerIGNtroll]

Combat discipline is affected by mesa's 3 so leveling it up is alright, as when it's maxes you take 1 damage. I'm pretty sure there's a level where you take 0 dmg (rounded down)

[@LetrollerIGNtroll]

Also isn't having 4 shards for crits pointless since the cap of 50% doesn't change? (Unless another update came out idk)

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@LetrollerIGNtroll they stack

[@skoshi293]

Too much cooking

[@apache6111]

You are the best warframe content creator I've seen, normally I found warframe content a bit tedious but yours is different. Just returned to the game a couple days ago after many years thanks to cross save and I feel a bit lost, I just found your channel and been watching your videos constantly, I'm interested in learning to mod for the first time (I'm MR18 and never actually understood how lol), trying to keep up with todays content and your guides are so easy to follow and entertaining to watch that I'm hooked even when I'm not playing. Thank you for such top quality content Blacky :)

[@Siilur]

10:35 why exactly Berserker Fury and not a Mod that gives you Inital Combo? That would synergize very well with the Crit per Combo thing, no?

[@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabc.]

I think its because they may not be permanent

[@Siilur]

@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabc. the +X initial combo is not permanent? I thought that was the whole point of the stat

[@Stralelvan]

Hey Blacky, I was wondering if you could make a video like your returning player/new player one but for those of us that are starting to get towards end game. Focus on showing off the things we should be grinding and how to get all the different systems and things to know about them like the helminth.

[@brandonsmith5127]

if you ever need help the q and a chat is very helpful, i too was a returning player and i managed to work my way to endgame. ever need a question answered im no blacky or tactical potato but im happy to help

[@ascendedboi4011]

Me watching this knowing damn well I can’t do this build: 😃😃😃

[@DasNerdwork]

Holy moly, that right there is what I call a min-maxers steelpath build. Thank you for the warning in the beginning too. I felt like in a math lecture where you look away for a single second and suddenly there are 20 calculations with variables and parts you have no clue where they came from lol

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Haha big love for the awesome feedback ❤️ Why you still up? Time to get some sleep 😜 But honestly, I think this is my most minmaxed build to date and I was crazy afraid KnightMare might come up with the same idea before me xD

[@StayInMyMemorie]

idk what u mean, she was top tier before.

[@gothfalcon]

This is pretty awesome. I would point out that for the Bronco modding, Amalgam Barrel Diffusion gives slightly less multishot, but also gives you a ton more mobility when using Mesa's Waltz and rolling as you should to move. Also, if you roll constantly, it keeps your targeting from shrinking so you would only have to cancel the ability every 30 seconds to refresh your buff from secondary arcane. I also personally prefer Pistol Amp for my aura and cutting my crit rate down some by running another arcane like either Arcane Energize and using Pillage instead of Nourish for armor strip and shield regen or sticking to Nourish and using Arcane Aegis to be very tanky with the damage reduction to shields. Either way, very interesting and well done build

[@rcqr4148]

Yep ready to make this build in a few hours at MR 9 (my mesa prime ain’t even done crafting)

[@cody_orphvn9171]

Bro is ready to fight against lvl 9999 now !

[@majesticbbqsauce727]

Remember, Jolt is only obtained from Baro. (As of right now) If you missed it in october, it' likely gonna be a wait before it shows back up. It shows up for 1 week, twice a year.

[@petervelcro4609]

ty for the reminder 🤗

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you for bringing this up ❤️

[@atlas1227]

I like to add negate on my wyrm so I can save rolling guard for just a bit longer

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Very good idea and smart use of the last slot 😉

[@eskilgrnevik2494]

Thanks for making understandable and entertaining tutorials! :)

[@KiillahX]

Can you post screenshots of build. Too much moving around putting one mode. lol trying to take a full pic

[@mr.redhands8390]

I run a similar build with molt reconstruct, avanger and corrosive green shards. When I woke up today and I saw Baro selling primed convulsion though, I thought damn, mesa and orange shards is going to be busted.

[@SmallAndSoft]

Only real Mesa mains remember Dual Toxotcysts

[@christianskidmore4830]

Ew, gatekeeping.. you're hopefully just joking around though?

[@SmallAndSoft]

@@christianskidmore4830 your 3 months late ofc im joking smfh

[@christianskidmore4830]

@@SmallAndSoft It's hard to tell online, some people really are such pricks that they would say what you did and be entirely serious

[@SmallAndSoft]

@@christianskidmore4830 no i was drunk sorry. 😞 have a good day

[@christianskidmore4830]

@@SmallAndSoft I didn't think you were being rude or anything, no worries mate. Good day to you too :)

[@FernandoCarlomagno]

Insane build, good job per usual blacky 🎉

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you ❤️ Happy you liked it :D

[@worldwide72]

I just got back to Mesa after years of not playing What the fuck is an archon shard

[@NimbleBard48]

Archon Shards are items you can istall in a max number of 5 on any frame. You use your Helminth to do that. They provide additional stats like +25% Strength, Casting Speed, Health and that kind of stats. Just an additional thing to make your frame stronger in a way you want. Currently you can get Archon Shards mostly by doing two things weekly: Kahl's Mission or Archon Hunt. The Archon Hunt can randomly reward you with a stronger (Tauforged) type Archon Shard. That's basically the summary. The newest Update from December - Whispers in the Wall - introduced 3 new shards but I haven't delved into that yet.

[@livingalife8879]

Replace the blue with an energy yellow, nourish or pillage Also rolling guard is just operator switch that costs a mod slot

[@buky69]

this build looked very impressive at first, but I gotta admit this is a tad bit tedious, and the whole setup relies on the fact you absolutely do not fumble and die once bc you'd need to start over. so, unless you're minmaxxing like an addict or are in a reliable squad in for a lobg ass mission, I honestly don't think this build would be practical in any way.

[@sansomega6261]

thats why before you'd use ceramic dagger for initial combo instead, so just do that

[@mr.u2926]

I dont play cause need to get her first so, i gonna save this video for the future to see if she recieves a nerf or still broken. Can u make a Equinox video in the future? Took me 3 hours just to get all her blueprints and really love her concept

[@lx5884]

Didn't know that primed redirection existed until now, well hyldrin shield count will go brrr

[@doootheytho9821]

Baro brought it for the first time ever 2 weeks ago

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Hahaha yeah its pretty new :D

[@jakubremba9085]

for finishers just try vazarin school and grouping abilty, you can ground finisher multiple enemies at once :)

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Very good point, thank you ❤️

[@Bl1n]

This mesa shoots faster (70 rps) than an a10 warthog (65rps).

[@SpottedHares]

I love my Mesa build in the circuit where you get the faster rate of fire on each hit. No idea how much damage it’s pumping out per second as the numbers popping off are so dense you can’t make them out.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

That's the problem with Mesa. There are just too many numbers xD

[@sul8802]

Amagalm furax wraith body count mod eh… … As far as I can tell, the fire rate buff were mentioned to buffing “secondary” weapon. Is that mean mesa’s exalted weapon count as secondary?, or just “pistol” ?

[@demonetization9993]

pistol and secondary are the same

[@kevindetwieler9212]

Take Mesa to duviri circuit and pick all the fire rate buffs, it definitely enhances her dps. The amalgam mod is really nice, it's a noticeable difference. Mesa scales better with fire rate even more than damage and having synergy enables far superior build quality. Arcane velocity is also a must have/best in slot as well as molt augmented.

[@niktuscemek4247]

Very intersting build but a long way to go before to have all the details.... (shards... arcanes velocity and outburst, crescendo.... a lot of formats) LETS GO GRIND !

[@LeMarek97]

Do you have a written guide? I think its quiet comprehensive but I am bad at seeing which polarities I need to build.

[@MookuuPC]

Applied this to Titania and I am in love.

[@barbas20]

now dont work any red crit here.. only orange

[@tarique9424]

Ive waited so long for this moment, and now that I have my Mesa, my attentive stance is out

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Haha then I hope thid one is achieving complete fulfillment :D

[@bru1984]

Is arcane crescendo buged ? I make finisher with Bronco I don't gain combo count each time at all.

[@GiaBuliga]

This is such a difficult build for a lot of people because the amount of time to input to even have a chance of getting arcane crescendo, archon shards everything else is just insane. Arcane crescendo is one of the new legendary melee arcane so it’s difficult to get at any levek due to it being in the netracells 😅

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

100% yes, but this is very much meant to be a minmax build and it was a ton of fun to put together. I will put out a more general Mesa video in 2024 ;)

[@christianskidmore4830]

​@@MHBlacky_ENGCould you also maybe do a budget build that's like this one but obviously not as good?

[@mazzaroth7827]

I'll be honest this is one of the worst mesa builds I've seen on youtube in a long time. First issue it's impractical/dedicated to long term survival missions as with your choice of furax wraith over cermaic dagger you're stuck getting finishers to build up your combo mult. You're looking at something like 36 kills to max your combo best case scenario. That's 36 times you have to stop and shoot a guy to set up a finisher. That's what five mins of nothing but just setting up your build when most missions are over by then. However only 36 kills is unlikely to actually be the case unless you have 3k plat to drop on a max melee crescendo. Your rank two arcane needs 72 kills to max combo but I'll still keep the 36 for comparison purposes. We have to hit 220 combo count to max our multiplier. Let's look at ceramic dagger incarnon, Gun and Blade +100 initial combo count at max stacks that can be built off of peacemaker kills something we were already going to do, Adept Reflexes +20 combo count, corrupt charge +30 combo count, Covert Lethality +16 combo count. 100+20+30+16= 166 We're at 9x mult without having to go out of our way to get finisher kills once Gun and blade is stacked. We start at a 4x mult without those stacks something that takes the furax build 10 kills to reach. With a maxed melee crescendo we need only 9 kills 1/4 of furax's 36 to hit max mult. The ease of use and quality of life of ceramic dagger blows the added firerate of furax away. If you're really that desperate for fire rate where's your afentis? We're already jumping through hoops here why not add another. Second issue is the topaz shards. We need 34 kills to max the cc/cd on them but you're only source of heat is the bronco of all things. Fine we can use it to open stuff up to finishers instead of Sling Stun letting us keep Zen. However, that being your only source of heat is a big issue. Going corrosive heat on peace makers would allow you to get those stacks without having to manually build them up with a secondary. Third issue the combo of Rolling Guard and waltz. I'll be honest I think Rolling Guard is a shitty mod. It limits your movement options on any build you have it on. You're running it with a mod that requires you to roll to get any use out of it. Waltz or Guard one of this should go because a slot is being wasted here. I can keep going but I'll stop for now. The build is one of those super specialized builds that is impractical in 99% of the content in the game and is requiring an arcane that likely less than 1% of the playerbase even own much less have at max rank. Who is this even for? Vets have better builds and want to go fast and newbies can't build it.

[@ErrorCode576]

Bro I have a ceramic dagger with a riven combo count that gives me x3. Resets before I can swap back to the secondary. X12 all the time in a matter of seconds starting a match. The only good thing that came from the video was the wyrm build for warframe survivability. Everything else is pretty much trash.

[@liesiontheir]

@@ErrorCode576 Could you be more specific about what makes the build "trash?" I feel as if this is the highest possible damage you can get as mesa, no? Maybe some green shards would be better, but im not sure. Ceramic dagger seems easier to use with this build but that doesn't make the build trash, just higher effort. I'm looking for the best mesa build possible if you could point me in the right direction.

[@hajimaruidolaku5675]

​​@@liesiontheir It's too much inconvenience for too little reward. There are tons of other builds with a lot less setup but still achieves the same end-result. That end-result being "kills stuff fast"

[@DungVan-tb3nl]

Dude writing a whole paragraph just to point out pointless pov

[@liesiontheir]

@@hajimaruidolaku5675 You think brozimes build is better?

[@Call_Me_Ainz]

Wyrm is not the only companion, huras Kubrow, raksa Kubrow. Sunika Kubrow, any vulpaphya, predasite. Hound or moa with right components

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

The only Sentinel.

[@HostameN_113]

@@MHBlacky_ENG These mods can be used in any Companion, not just Sentinel.

[@1manApocalypse_CP]

Djinn with reawaken can reach 1200+ over shields too, granted you need to reload to set it up or another method of giving it over shields, but it exists.

[@alvarg]

do you have any high damage builds that don't take 3 months of work to acquire all parts

[@imienazwisko9227]

If you are Kinda new in warframe Just pick saryn add as much range as you can and use 1st ability a lot Bonus point for some ability strenght

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

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[@MastaBroshiX]

This explains why ive been seeing so much more mesa lately

[@mikailfournea9545]

Also helps her prime rotation is active right now

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

The time to get her :D

[@MastaBroshiX]

Time to dust her off, I've been on an ivara and sevagoth kick

[@TheFF7Encyclopedia]

I use Sling Stun to get finishers, means i can completely bypass bronco

[@fran99080]

For QOL you can go Vazarin and for-go rolling guard, and bronco. Just use void snare for ground finishers for stacking melee crescendo and protective sling for survivability. Could use a nukor, atmos, or any beam weapon for priming heat for topaz shards.

[@srdjan72624]

Is this build still viable as of oct 2024?

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Yup ;)

[@groovyguy0069]

As a Mesa main I can confirm NO, this build is garbage.

[@parkerventura2989]

@@groovyguy0069any build recommendations? Just got into the game and just got Mesa

[@peyothebest]

​@@groovyguy0069 which build should we use?

[@groovyguy0069]

@@peyothebest My build is: Growing Power, Mesas Waltz, Narrow Minded, Archon Vitality, Umbrail Intensify, Blind Rage, Equilibrium, Preparation, Primed Flow and Primed continuity with arc velocity and arc energize. Furax Wraith with the amalgam mod for extra sec weap fire. Regulators: Galv shot, Pist Pest, Leth Torr, Primed conv, Primed Pis Gam, Galv Diff, Primed Tar Crack and Primed heat charge. I use the Adarza Kavat for more crit chance. This build you can use as soon as you spawn in, no need for convoluted junk.

[@raphaellfms]

I did swap the elementary/status mods for primed heated charge and hornet strike and anemic agility for accelerated isotope.The dps is much higher, the 12% extra status chance and extra 25% in fire rate is nothing compared to the extra element (for galvanized shot), and 281% higher raw damage. They melt way faster. Also, most kubrows, vulpaphyla or moa can use the reinforced bond

[@duck6770]

is that for the regulators?

[@raphaellfms]

@@duck6770 it is

[@DecidingMC]

So. I have to ask, because I've seen several videos involving it but it's not stated. Is soma prime worse than regular soma?

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Nope, the Prime is better. But for many players, having the normal Soma once they reach MR 6 is preferrable 😉

[@DecidingMC]

@@MHBlacky_ENG sweet I've had prime for a while but just started getting back into warframe. Been at mr 5 for like 4 years or something like that.

[@DecidingMC]

@@MHBlacky_ENG ty for the response as well. Love the content keep it up man.

[@novagaming4970]

Have fun getting that melee arcane T-T 5% drop chance in netracells 5 times a week

[@IIBEAST91]

Poor new warframe player watching this ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️

[@MilanVannooij]

Why

[@IIBEAST91]

@@MilanVannooij Bro stuff are actually expensive to get if you check the market. You have to put crazy amounts of time...

[@ShadowBMe]

@MHBlacky_ENG Another easy little thing you could do to add more damage is use the Madurai Focus for Phoenix Talon's +30% to Physical Damage. It's probably not as big a bonus to damage as some of these other things but compounded with those nasty crit multipliers and shredded armor values from the corrosion effects, it's not exactly small either. I just came back to Warframe after a several year break and have been enjoying seeing your content. I appreciate you!

[@xxdarkmeowxx528]

Is this build still viable? After all the updates? I’ve already got it built but wondering if it still works

[@ringofdreal1374]

The only thing I know is that Nourish has been nerfed, but although it's nerfed, it's still not bad. I still use it and extremely helpful specially if you have Blind Rage.

[@fran-angel4853]

@@ringofdreal1374 terrify is way better, CC and armor strip, hell yeah

[@MrCptCapslock1]

@@fran-angel4853 What about energy tho

[@102ndsmirnov7]

@@MrCptCapslock1 just change one of the shards to a tauforged amber shard with more energy from orbs.

[@abysses3865]

With Moas you can get more than 1200 shield to activate the fire rate buff

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Yep, but honestly I don't like them as much because they die way too quickly :/

[@christianskidmore4830]

​@@MHBlacky_ENGMoas I think should have a slight buff in survivability, for sure. They even sometimes die to like level 50-60 enemies