Warframe vs Star Wars. Baruuk vs Jedi & 2,000 Clones

I'm really enjoying this series, so trying my hand at a longer video before I cut it down to Short length.
Warframes from the game Warframe are ridiculously powerful. Even though I do these matchups randomly, pretty much picking who they go up against at random, Star Wars is a really fitting one.
Hopefully DE can hook me up so I can make more of these.
#tennocreate #gaming #starwars star

[@MarcusVance]

I'm MVSwords on there. A few people have really helped me/this series out already, so if you want to do something similar, I wouldn't say no. Other than that, i play at weird times, so we might be able to crack a relic together... eventually!

[@BGWEED585]

I would love to help out crackin relics

[@osmacar5331]

Aight got it. Sending FR next time am on. Always willing to help if am free. This dinosaur could do with playing more.

[@tctc4413]

ok just a thought , but if you include warframes pets in the vers series , i think it would be more fair .

[@sleepingdeep7885]

@@tctc4413 Dude, if you include the pets you get into stuff like Smeeta literally altering probabilities. and the Vasca being able to sap health from enemies and give it to the warframe so that even if they do get hit they just get healed.

[@tctc4413]

@@sleepingdeep7885 well just the pets by them selfs , and smeeta vs a space marine seems more fair.

[@zedusan2141]

A note: Baruuk's 1 negates melee attacks too, so he could just wait for the Jedi Knight to swing, miss, and proceed to beat the shit out of him

[@MarcusVance]

What? It does? Jeez... I didn't even realize that.

[@drakobloodwing540]

Imagine going for a swipe when you're fucking lightsaber.If fucking goes through him and he just starts fucking star platinum your shit your shit into the next week

[@zedusan2141]

Yep, so the Jedi are just either put to sleep or just miss and get ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAd

[@Sweg177]

@@MarcusVance also his 3 is not just small damage. it is a 95% damage reduction when cast with proper power strength

[@rubberband7599]

For comparisons with weapons you could look into their signature weapons. Many warframes (especially all the recent ones) have signature weapons that might be there go to weapon in lore. Baruuks weapons is the cobra and crane, a melee weapon that can shoot a small wind projectile when hovering in the air.

[@gobsmack8192]

warframes have some very scary feats in lore- Atlas punched a planet-killing asteroid to smithereens, gauss outruns bullets and his own sound barrier, wisp opens a portal to the sun, protea can reverse time, the list goes on.

[@vonfaustien3957]

Some of the EU Star wars stuff gets wild as well. Luke was tossing micro black holes at the Yuzzan vong, Palpatine could rip apart planets with his force storm and body hop, Anukian Jr turned into a pure energy being for a while and Nilus and Vitiate just flat out ate the life force of the populations of several planets. That said clone wars jedi are no where near that and even than your peak jedi on par with a warframe in damage potential bit still a lot less durable

[@CocoLarge.]

Don't forget limbos abilities being entirely paracausal like how he can send you to a different reality or project that reality into an area with the only explanation around it being "math"

[@Nezha_Main]

​@@CocoLarge. Well clearly he went to Harvard!

[@jessegraves6642]

Atlas used his ground tumblers covering the entire circumference.

[@jaquezpatrick8035]

@@CocoLarge. If he miscalculates he also explodes...(again.)

[@Wizinja]

Also Baruuk has a mod that changes the element of his fisticuffs to whatever the enemy is weak against. So theres that.

[@MarcusVance]

Yeah... It'd be a bit too OP if I covered mods. Maybe I should, though. Talk about everything a 'frame has and can do to build up context of just how powerful they are.

[@lazybuddah9639]

​@@MarcusVancethe moment you touch modding shit gets wild, especially augments, it gets even wilder with the helminth invigoration, archon shards, necramechs, and the actual purpose of the helminth above invigoration

[@theyondant6088]

@@MarcusVance The hilarious part is that Mods are actually canon, in universe technology in the Origin System, so ridiculously OP, min-maxed super-builds are technically canon.

[@alisbin]

All of it is canon, though some of it (shards, helminth, etc) are recent on the timeline

[@lazybuddah9639]

@@alisbin pretty sure helminth was pretty old since it's basically the strand of infested that the warframes are made with

[@pleolin8125]

The daggers actually reduce the damage he takes and permanently disarms the enemies. Barukk’s only limit is that he can’t use his fist form until he gets provoked enough.

[@siennaistrans]

baruuk is literally so enlightened he has the equivalent of "the force 2™"

[@JustMcKenzie]

The way my I see the fight ending in my headcannon, the jedi knight makes a sacrifice play to drop the shields, only for the padawan's lightsaber to bounce off the warframe... A rather rude way to find out about the sheild gating that every warframe has.

[@Anonymys43]

Every Warframe except Kullervo, Nidus and Inaros (they're shieldless)

[@JustMcKenzie]

True true! I forgot about those guys, cheers!

[@cecilrhodes2153]

@@Anonymys43and Kullervo has an Overgate, Nidus has resurrection at 15 stacks, and Inaros has resurrection after his sand shadow gets enough hits.

[@z_is_for_zombie7423]

> Padawan saber bounces off Baruuk > Baruuk’s fist approaches Padawan’s face at mach 1 billion or whatever > Freeze frame > Curb your enthusiasm plays

[@steveverera9999]

@@cecilrhodes2153 There's also the fact that Kullervos Overguard, has a .5 second invul like all Overguards.

[@RexRagerunner]

The things you forgot to mention: - His 1 not only makes bullets pass through him, but melee hits to pass through him aswell even though because of in game reasons melee hits damage him anyways because of hitbox stuff. - His 2 aside from making people sleep, also gives the affected people amnesia which means when they wake up they will forget that they ever saw Baruuk which makes him unkillable since if he's ever come close to losing he will just put people to sleep and escape and since people will forget about him when they wake up, they won't chase either. - His 3 daggers don't only deal damage but also knock the weapons out of peoples hands. In game this only affects ranged weapons, forcing enemies into melee but in lore it affects all types of weapons. - His 4 gauntlets literally summon a desert wind with each hit, so not only it does AOE but it also does push/pull/knockup/knockdown depending on whatever combo youre using. - His passive gives him a Restraint meter. 1,2,3 empties this meter while 4 fills this meter. The emptier this meter is, the more damage reduction he gains, so the more people around him, the more people he will put to sleep or more bullets he dodges, the faster this meter will drop. He can basically constantly knock the light sabers out of the Jedi's hands constantly making them pull their lightsabers back with a force pull while he is tearing into the clones, he can become a sand image so nothing hits him, he can kill groups of people by constantly pulling/pushing them or knocking up/down them constantly.

[@dansherman1980]

“Atlas summons earth to be around him. That’s difficult to beat.” That’s not counting the rubble he picks up.

[@lagartopunkarra]

If you see Warframe lore and their powers, it gets really crazy and other worlds would have a really hard time defeating a Warframe. Examples: - Atlas punched a world ending asteroid into basically dust - Gauss can outrun sound itself - Grendel can eat anything, like literally EAT ANYTHING - Octavia can kill you by literally throwing a rave party - Wisp can open a portal inside the Sun and throw its radiation to you - Limbo controls a whole alternate dimension - Nova can cover you in antimatter and deatomize you - Saryn is basically a violation to the Geneva Convention by herself - Kullervo can teleport to you and attack you with the heaviest of melee hits

[@camerongrondzki2716]

One fun thing I'd recommend for any future Warframe videos is each Warframe has signature weapons. I think it would be a fun mix up to have those specifically thrown in the mix instead of just saying they could use any weapon

[@ahmadsuleman9169]

Also all of this is ignoring that warframes have revive systems built in. So like even if they die; they can at least, be brought back quite a few times. Also certain warframes can just refuse to die, revenant my beloved.

[@Killmate50]

Just imagining Nidus and Inaros... How terrifying those two would be in reality or the WH40K universe... Would Nidus be a Tyranid?

[@ra1nyran]

@@Killmate50 i think nidus could be an entire tyranid hive fleet on his own

[@jackkiller0008]

​@@Killmate50 nidus can just spread space HIV and infestation

[@FacelessEnt.1920]

I love this, and yeah it is very difficulty to scale warframes against other fictional armies. When you have warframes that can spread contagion to anti-matter and everything in between it gets crazy. This new warframe, Dante, is absolutely nuts.

[@Anonymys43]

Lol wait till Jade gets released, she looks OP af

[@FacelessEnt.1920]

@@Anonymys43 Bro, Jade is something else.

[@MathewDHennen]

​@Anonymys43 Jade looks solid. I doubt she'll kick Wisp off her pedestal. A VS argument would be pretty good with her tho. Assuming her name indicates that she has access to or a relation to the Jade Light. You know, that thing the Orokin used to execute other immortals. That said, it does just kind of come off as a disintegration ray, and any actual information on it is pretty scarce.

[@muntu1221]

​@@MathewDHennen The Jade Light might have Void implications. The frames hit with it no longer exist in history.

[@TheLunarDawn]

Pretty sure nothing is going to take even an inch of Baruuk's fist, much less 6-inches. Especially considering that nearly all viable Baruuk builds run an ability augment called Reactive Storm, allowing Desolate Hands to adapt to enemy weaknesses, negating any possible enemy resistances they had prior to engagement. Off the top of my head, the augment would only be at a disadvantage against other Warframes; specifically, against proto-shields which take neutral damage from all sources with no weakness or resistance.

[@virutech32]

Ok but radiotoxic fists is ridiculous. Im imagining a rocksalt-type shotgun round filled with super hot☢️ soluble polonium/cesium salt.

[@bobtehdinosaur]

Funny enough, Warframe actually has a lot of shotguns that you can use with radiation damage. The Drakgoon is a flak shotgun that fires out a bunch of molten hot shrapnel lol.

[@virutech32]

@@bobtehdinosaur jeezus and i thought the cyberpunk one was wild. "Oh yeah the DP just wasn't doing it so we mixed in some RTG-grade plutonium buckshot for flavor" 🤣

[@bobtehdinosaur]

@@virutech32 yeah man Warframe is pretty insane. I have trouble thinking of any other sci-fi universe that can beat the Tenno.

[@Tom-fl8eh]

There is a pistol called the Nukor. It does funny things.

[@nullproxy9639]

There is a shotgun called the arca titron that just slams walls of hard light at your enemies, and the Kohm which is an auto shotgun with a nutty magazine of 150 shots

[@Zelmel]

At the end there talking about frame powers, there's also ones that can straight up absorb damage taken into a blast outward (Garuda) or that can just straight-up become invincible barring various types/amounts/time of damage (Rhino, Inaros, Nezha). Outside of that, and full-on area murder machines like Saryn, you've got things like Titania that can shrink, fly, and do insane damage with both inherent guns and passive things, and berserker frames like Valkyr that could probably solo kill a company of Space Wolves assuming the right build (long duration, good power mostly) because while berserk they're literally impossible to damage.

[@Tyler-vu8yr]

And then there’s Grendel…. He swallows enemies to fuel his abilities and regenerate his health and makes energy power ups more potent. Or rolling through hordes of enemies in his ball form (while also being able to use his other three abilities in said form)

[@NecroAsphyxia]

“Every single Warframe has an energy shield” *laughs in Inaros*

[@jankieek8218]

And Nidus and Kullervo. (Although those guys have their own ways to deal with damage)

[@raddude1328]

I find the idea of baruuk standing in his idle pose with his hands out letting the lightsaber just passing through his body just to lower his restraint to allow himself to use desert wind very funny. Or the idea of him getting force pushed only to just punch back with several rounds of his desert wind. Look forward to more of these.

[@ethanemerson4862]

To be fair, the Jedi wouldn’t be affected by Baruuk’s sleep ability because they are resistant to mind tricks. And they could MAYBE block his fist-wave attack (again, MAYBE, depending on the individual). They also are just as fast as a Warframe if we use the Legends universe. But yes, the Baruuk would still win.

[@tctc4413]

they could block 1 or 2 , to bad for auto melee ;)

[@ethanemerson4862]

@@tctc4413 auto melee was a miracle for my poor thumb (I play with controller)

[@laszloneumann500]

Yea thing is with warframes is when not set to warframe standards, its not just that they are incredibly destructive, they are also more durable than most tanks other universes have

[@tctc4413]

@@laszloneumann500 and then u have to kill them, 4-6 more times

[@elibeeblebrox1084]

​@@ethanemerson4862keyboard ain't any easier my guy. If anything it's harder to tap fast due to longer travel on standard switches

[@ramonebriscoe1608]

Also remember, Baruuk's daggers provide him with damage reduction up to ninety percent.

[@loonboy1996]

Most tenno could kill a named ultra marine. That is power!!

[@ghosthippie8465]

Plot armor who? - some tenno with eternalism

[@dubborino979]

The horrible thing is his fists can be augmented to always deal maximum damage or at the very least, optimal kinds of damage. Unsure how it interacts with other things but it's not a far stretch to say they could absolutely demolish physical armor.

[@matthiasbarish1296]

I’ll say it right now before watching the video: Baruuk no diffs this whole thing. Elude dodges the clones’ blasters, Lull knocks them ALL out (Jedi included), Desolate Hands disarms all of them, and Serene Storm turns every one of them into silly putty regardless. If my main is able to solo the “final bosses” of the game, which are almost GODS compared to most enemies, he’s gonna run through them like a motherfucking runaway train

[@alisbin]

I think it's probably unfair to compare a warframe to a regular unit from just about anywhere, they are on par with main characters and key figures. For starwars, comparing to masters windu or yoda would be totally fair, same with primarchs from 40k. While some warframes would be poorly suited for fighting any individual named character from these powerful settings, the whole deal is that you send the right warframe for the job. Fast target? Send gauss, he's faster and immune to moat damage. A god level tough target? Either send a completely immorral frame like Revenant to outlast them or one of the many insane damage dealers. Warframes don't just hang around, they only come out to play for purpose.

[@Mr.Hun13r]

i mean the primary antagonist of warframe would just erase most entities in 40k and the Tenno have defeated them twice already, along with other primarch equivalents.

[@ghosthippie8465]

I wouldn't say we defeated them, more like uh... mess with their plans a little bit. We have yet to actually fight them.

[@nullproxy9639]

We haven't fought wally directly at all, at best we've just been inconveniencing his efforts to pierce our reality

[@IamLumiTheVixen]

Wi did NOT defeated THAT, we just made his plans take a little longer To That, the tenno walk along the lines of slightly annoying and nothing

[@Mr.Hun13r]

@IamLumiTheVixen we blasted it back to its own reality, that's a win not a decisive kill bit a win

[@ghosthippie8465]

@Mr.Hun13r that never happened... and even if it did, it was most likely not even the real wally, more likely a projection of him.

[@seb-fluffysnowcap9530]

Reactive Storm Baruuk is OP in WF.

[@Pooolj]

i don't know an average now days exterminate mission take around 2 minutes and most of that time is spent getting to the extraction point lol

[@CocoLarge.]

Baruuk has an augment (the existence of mods in the lore is canon, confirmed in a devstream) that changes the energy waves he produces into the weaknesses of the surface they hit

[@ThatDude54onWarframe]

Cant wait for Wisp to destroy some poor people by summoning the literal sun

[@noahloyd9176]

There's one thing about all but the Warframes who don't have shields at all (Inaros, Nidus, and technically Kullervo) that most vs. videos don't take into account: The shield gating mechanic. I remember addressing it years ago when Death Battle ran Raiden (MGR:R) versus Excalibur. The shield gate mechanic renders the Warframe impervious to all damage from any source, of any kind, until a period of time (between one and two seconds by default) has passed following the depletion of its energy shield (with the sole exception of the handful of effects that bypass shields, and even this is effectively no longer a thing, as I recall, bleed and toxin take from your shield pool first now.) In my explanation in the Death Battle episode's comments, I mention that, no matter how powerful Raiden and his sword are, no matter how many times he can swing it in a second, even if the shield gate lasted a minimum of one second, Excalibur could get in a killing blow while completely ignoring Raiden's attacks as if they weren't even happening. Essentially, a Warframe *doesn't even have to think about the damage being dealt to them* until their shield breaks, and then, they have a panic window to just jump, dodge, or otherwise move out of the way. With the exception of effects that physically knock them over, they can shrug off any attack, whether a hit from a sword, a cannon, a missile, a laser beam, quite literally anything that can be thrown at them, while returning fire or without breaking the pace of a melee combo. Think of it like that scenario of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object, only in this case, the unstoppable force is a Warframe who literally isn't even reacting to the damage being dealt to him, and the immovable object is not in the picture to contest it. In a melee match of any kind, regardless of the weapon, whether it's a Jedi master with a lightsaber, Darth Vader, or whoever else you could throw at them from the Star Wars universe, there's no way they could actually defeat any Warframe (with, again, perhaps the exception of those with no shield gate) in melee combat. If you're familiar with things like HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) or Kenjutsu/Kendo (very roughly speaking, Japanese style melee combat techniques), you can reference them for an example of what I'll explain next, but the short version is that normally, you have to be aware of what your opponent is doing in melee combat. Now, in the case of a Warframe, who is effectively able to ignore damage, let's say generic, unmodded Warframe walks up to Obi-Wan Kenobi, one of the most famous of all lightsaber duelists, skilled in many techniques and styles, and the two fight. When Obi-Wan takes a swing at the Warframe, he has to keep in mind his own position, if he has to fall back, block or dodge an attack, or otherwise remember his own defense even while attacking (after all, he's considered a master in defensive styles.) When the Warframe attacks, he might as well just be swinging at a target dummy that moves around; because of the shield gate, the Warframe doesn't even need to consider his own defense while attacking. He doesn't need to counter. He doesn't need to block. He doesn't need to dodge or parry. He doesn't need to do anything; his opponent might as well not be attacking. This is, effectively, what happens when you have a peasant with a stick fighting a knight in full armor with a longsword; the knight has basically nothing to fear and can just plow right through whatever the peasant is trying to do. Having done a fair bit of my own practice at martial arts with swords, katanas and armor, it's easy for me to grasp the incredible advantage you have in a melee fight if the only thing you have to think about is landing a hit, especially if you can let your opponent attack confidently, and then while ignoring his attack you perform your own, one that would be impossible ordinarily without taking that attack yourself (but effortless for a Warframe.) Most Warframes that ever take any serious damage only do so from a series of multiple distant sources (extended exposure to ranged weapons fire, explosives bombardments, and the like), and almost never from a single opponent of any caliber. With the rate a Warframe's shields (and shield gate) restores at and their mobility, it's almost impossible to take one down if they desire not to be, repositioning for only a matter of seconds before they're fully charged and back in the fight. I don't think there's any Jedi who could ever hope to best any Warframe, let alone Baruuk. A Sith with dark side powers might have a slightly better chance, with a bit more ranged offense to choose from, but certainly not in melee combat. It might be worth hypothesizing the damage type a Star Wars blaster would deal to a Warframe; I'd venture to say it would be either Heat or Radiation, and not only do both of these elemental types have mods that grant increased resistance, any Warframe can have Adaptation installed, which gives them a ramping up ability to adapt to incoming damage (like the Borg in Star Trek) to near negation. Sometimes I try to run down all the fictional characters and settings I can think of to try to think of anything, anyone, that could defeat a Warframe, and the list is basically nonexistent.

[@steveverera9999]

There isn't just shield gate and shields themselves. The warframe body itself is ungodly durable. We see a lesser version of what it would look like and it's Senator Armstrong. Now imagine that cranked to Orokin standards. On top of all of it since Mods are canon in lore. And how the Orokin treated them and the Dax with how Teshin talks. Warframes already mastered advanced forms of combat to such an insane degree, the only times their mastery is challenge is in C O N C L A V E. From what i gathered on every Force power, Force stasis is the best bet of anyone. But there's the speed gap. No matter what they do they can't cross that speed gap without sacrificing something like with Force speed/sprint. Like let's say Baruuk somehow stands there for 3 seconds instead of just caving someone's skull in at Mach 100. They are only delaying the inevitable best they can hope for is either run when stasis get's overpowered in brute strength, something that regularly happens in warframe or somehow hope that baruuk can't tank 5000 lightsaber slashes since grineer have something similar like the Machete/Dual cleavers/Sheev and they barely do jack squat. Hell an arguably more broken version of Force stasis, Magnetize from Mag. Warframes can walk it off and so does a lot of higher tier enemies.

[@laszloneumann500]

bro thats a gameplay mechanic and is not backed up by lore

[@noahloyd9176]

@@laszloneumann500 There's quite a lot of gameplay mechanics backed up by lore. Corpus shields are based on the same shield tech the Tenno use, which is why you can't oneshot one (outside of a headshot) unless your damage significantly exceeds their total shield capacity. Similarly, Lotus describes Zanuka as being "like facing a Warframe with a full compliment of mods." Similarly, the Conclave uses a mechanic for taking score for a downed opponent by collecting a little dropped energy orb; yet Teshin describes this as the Oro, or essentially the soul, of a Tenno, and claims only another being possessing Oro may quench that of another. You might notice it as a prefix in the name of the Orokin Empire. The Parazon must be coded with a sequence of mods to clear Kuva Lich Puzzle Mode, but the lore is that the Kuva infusing them must be unwound using a sequence of arcane inscriptions upon the blade dealing the killing blow. You can find many similar descriptions in the Leverian entries as well. Unless DE writes off a mechanic as 'outside the scope of the game's lore', such as paying platinum to re-roll your Kubrow back in the day, pretty much any information in the game can be considered canon until retconned or disavowed.

[@laszloneumann500]

@@noahloyd9176 i know what u mean, i been playing the game for 7k hours now, nothing in lore refers to shieldgating as its a gameplay mechanic, also the non oneshottable corpus is like a 3 year old "new thing" it didnt at all used to be that way so i dont think it can be used in the lore arguement as if any of this was lore based, it would have been long established that its a thing, but its not. Where was your shieldgate when stalker stabbed your frame or when the grineer queen burrowed into it with the staff? Clearly nowhere. If you refer to the warframe cinematics for example there you can see mag get shot in the air and the metal parts of her deflecting, no energy shield even turning on, let alone "shield gate invulnerability" Invulnerability in general is just a gameplay mechanic, you cant 1:1 translate it into irl concept because physics exist, unless a frame turns literally immaterial, they can be crushed with enough force like a nut(probably the weight of a few buildings needed but still), there wont be no shield gate coming in clutch saving them from being tossed into a blackhole either. Its just nonsensical to think otherwise, even more nonsensical to write a short novel about it when it really doesnt take a lot of thought to figure out why shieldgating is not part of the lore

[@noahloyd9176]

@@laszloneumann500 Like I said; if it's not contradicted by an actual statement in the game, in a cutscene, or in published information by DE (such as the Leverian), a mechanic is canon as in-universe. It's literally on screen for a reason. Where was the shield gate when the Stalker Stabbed our Frame, you ask? You might have noticed that there wasn't an Operator inhabiting it, leaving it 'just a metal puppet', clearly powered down and inactive; of course its shield wouldn't have stopped War. Where was the shield gate with the Grineer Queen? I'm sorry? She was burrowing into the mind of the Operator, visually shown by flashes to the Operator with the tendrils of power coming from her staff clearly visible reaching toward their skull. Where was the shield gate with the Mag cinematic? Well, on Mag, of course. If you take what you interpret from that cutscene to be canon, then I assume you think that Mag didn't even have a shield at all, since you assume the deflected hit she took appearing to 'ping' off a metallic surface means that such images reflect a Warframe taking damage directly to the physical chassis and not an energy shield. This includes later when Volt runs into a bullet (making another metallic 'ping' sound) and most prominently in the New War cinematic, where a Nova, standing apparently undamaged (and presumably with a completely full shield) takes a hit from a Grineer Ogris which visibly punches through its chest armor before seeming to entirely destroy the Nova. DE have repeatedly demonstrated, by their cinematics, that the more 'theatric' side prevails in their promotional video materials as opposed to the gameplay side, because it just seems so much more gritty and epic to see the Warframes taking what appears to be damage (even if sometimes they resist it), but if you seriously take that to be the canon truth, then Warframes clearly would have no shields at all in canon - when they clearly do. No shielded Warframe in the game can be taken out by a single hit from an Ogris, period, so the cinematic contradicts the gameplay. An unmodded Warframe wouldn't last very long against a high level Grineer Bombard, perhaps, but the Lotus specifically mentions Mods in-game, in-universe, in her introduction to the Zanuka fight; so while it's not shown in the cinematic trailers, there's absolutely no reason to assume any of the Warframes seen there (especially the Orokin-era ones, who would have had access to everything the Empire could possibly pimp them out with) would also be unmodded. Again, if you think the cinematics and cutscenes are the definers of canon, I reference again the New War cinematic, where the destroyed Nova's Operator casually sweeps the default Void Beam across all the Grineer in the hallway (including a heavily armored, bullet-sponge Bombard) and incinerates all of them instantly. This is very much not how it works in gameplay, but it "looks cool" in the trailer, so they did it anyway. As for your point that you seem to think only "long-established" things, and not things that have been added or changed within the last three years, are canon, I direct you to the original Councillor Vay Hek, who *used to be* rather a friendly and jovial character, with one of his lines during his battle sequence being "Come on, give your old Uncle Hek a hug!" I wonder if you were even playing when that was a thing. Anyway, it used to be a thing that Warframes didn't have augments. It used to be a thing that Hydroid could turn into a puddle. It used to be a thing that Excalibur had Super Jump. It used to be a thing that Warframes had stamina that they could run out of while sprinting, dodging, blocking, or wall-running. It used to be a thing that Ember's World On Fire summoned pillars of fire beneath the feet of all the enemies in range, regardless of line of sight. It used to be a thing that there were only five Warframes. It used to be a thing that Archwing and Railjack missions used an entirely different set of damage elements from regular ground missions, which was a thing from the day Archwing was first added to the game; I believe Plasma damage was Archwing meta back then. It used to be a thing that Heat damage didn't reduce enemy armor. It used to be a thing, almost since the game began (when Infested were first added) that it was possible for Toxic Ancients to oneshot any Warframe in the game at a sufficiently high level by completely bypassing their shields with a nuke of toxic damage. It used to be a thing from the beginning (until after the launch of the Zariman tileset) that enemies such as Ancients and Grineer Scorpions with grabbing hook attacks would be able to instantly grab you and pull you off your feet with uncanny accuracy, and there was nothing you could really do to prevent it; there was never a delay before the knockdown. All these and countless other things have changed over the years. I've been a part of Warframe ever since I was invited to be one of the very first batch of test players outside the DE team; I've seen every change, every alteration, every update, every event, every hotfix, every nerf and buff, every rework. I still remember and fondly miss the sound of the original Grakata and will always say the sound they changed it to simply sounds like microphone static by comparison. Just because something "was such and such a way for a long time" doesn't mean it trumps a later change, a retcon, a revision, or a rework. DE has been changing the game as well as adding to it ever since the very beginning, and there's absolutely no basis for cherry-picking certain pieces of the game's lifespan and saying they're more relevant than where it is now. The crux of the matter is: Is shield gating 'part of the lore'? Yes, it is, until DE states officially otherwise, because if it wasn't, it wouldn't be part of the game. Is it universal to all material relating to Waframe? No, there's clearly no evidence of shields whatsoever in the cinematic trailers, which gives the impression that, in the Warframe Cinematic Universe, Warframes don't have shields at all. As for the really odd tangent about '1:1 real physics', I would assume you must think really hard about how Thor can fly by spinning around his hammer in the Avengers movies, or how Tony Stark can make a wrist watch turn into a functional exoskeletal battle armor suit capable of flight and combat, including missile launchers, or how Superman can just... fly. I feel like you've completely missed the part of 'science fiction' that has the word 'fiction' in it. The funny thing is, I think you and I would both agree that almost everything about the Warframes would be physically impossible in reality. I think we'd agree that there's no alternate dimension ruled by a weird statue embedded in a wall that grants children unnatural energy powers. I'm pretty sure we'd agree that there's no logical reason that ANY energy field could functionally prevent kinetic damage from affecting an object or entity it surrounds. Those concepts seem absurd; but the point of SciFi is to throw things out there that aren't, and talk about them like they are. What, do you also think the Helldivers aren't canon to their own game because there's no 'real' way a human being could survive being shot feet-first through a planet's atmosphere at high speed in a human-sized bullet and impacting the surface, coming to a complete stop upon impact? Look, I get that you tried to apply real-world logic to a completely fictional setting where eldritch probability-alteration exists... I just don't think it was a smart play.

[@alertArchitect]

I think the best Warframe to fight the Star Wars universe would be Inaros. Not because of any particular technical or lore reason - just that if we're talking specifically Clone Wars era, his powers are all based around the most potent counter to one of the strongest Jedi available... Sand.

[@cyndasqill]

You never gave me my astramilitarum vs fallout American and Chinese armies. But this was cool too.

[@MarcusVance]

Don't worry, I'm thinking through that stuff.

[@cyndasqill]

@@MarcusVance best day ever.

[@Furi_S_Poi]

Its amazing knowing Warframe and how studious and devout its fans are. I love it.

[@Jhoodjin]

We have a warframe who can casually open portals to the sun... I am afraid the space marines would only be capable of beating Excalibur and Rhino but would lose a lot of troops trying to as well. The other warframes tho...nah its not even close after those two everything scales up to a very high level of feats

[@wander-0014]

I mean I guess theirs ash two mainly because he's more ninja adjacent than the other frames are.

[@Jhoodjin]

@@wander-0014 ain't gonna lie to you I forgot dude existed but he was also one of the strongest ninjas based on his standing in the lore. Unfortunately gameplay wise I can see a space marine one shotting him if they get their hands on him

[@williampearce5757]

I can't wait to see him put Hildryn up against the Space Marines. Hard to fight when your enemy is regenning their shields by *obliterating your armor.*

[@ObeyBeeno]

Baruuk slams he can disarm and put the whole army to sleep then serene storm will wipe them all out in about 30 seconds

[@loginlost_horizon6327]

Damn, I really need Volt video so i could die in peace. Always like your videos, keep up the good work!

[@masongrae5010]

I’m really digging this series

[@sketchysketches381]

I'm very curious to know if you consider mods in these thought experiments. Like baruuks most popular builds basically sleeps an entire map indefinitely or reduce damage to basically nothing. I'm sure if you know about Saryn then you know her most popular build is just spreading the plague across entire maps. I wouldn't get too into subsumed builds or the shards but basic builds can get gnarly. If you just consider lore and base powers I completely understand that

[@MarcusVance]

Yeah, I think I might need to do another series that's covering what feats they can do with common builds, mods, and weapons

[@noahloyd9176]

@@MarcusVance Honestly, there aren't many fantasy, fiction, or sci-fi matchups where a Warframe truly needs mods to widen their already tremendous edge over almost any opposition. I know we Warframe veterans tend to throw out the "you should see what happens with a meta mod setup", but the simple fact is that a basic Warframe is already close to a running, jumping, flying, space-travel capable solo army with powers that could bring worlds to their knees. It's true that the mod system adds that much more to them, but you can pretty easily approach the situation like this: Is (insert scenario here) enough to defeat (insert Warframe here) with no mods? If no, then, well, game over. If yes, well, as soon as you get out of the intro mission, your tutorial has you put mods on your gear, so basically every Warframe, and all of their weapons, always have mods; does this tip the balance? If yes, then, well, game over again. If no, you've probably found yourself one of the strongest characters in all of fiction.

[@wholesomez4967]

This is a good fucking series, keep it up my dudee

[@ironwolfsaber2739]

Okay Clone Regiment 10-0, you are fighting a Barruk Warframe. Based on early Intel we where able to get ship a few tools to help out. Your first order of business is establishing an ambush point, the aphitheater would be ideal. This is where you would install the shipped tractor beam underneath. Let the baruuk capture the data mass placed in the center, if they are poorly trained victory will be assured. Once caught in the tractor beam, the Warframe is to be fired upon from all directions. Any weapon with range and repeatability should be placed near the assumed front, blaster with high power should be placed or reposition to his rear. While troopers near the front may notice no effect they are to continue firing in the event the baruuk turns. The master Jedi will provide battle meditation to ensure all shots fly true and well cadenced. By continuing to fire you prevent baruuk from counter attackingin the event they attack, shots from all directions will begin to find a home. Keep this up for at least ten minutes, any baruuk would be exhausted by then caught in this trap. With any luck the Warframe will become a smoldering mass of metal. As shots from behind him will continue to strike and with eventual depletion of their energy will find the rest of them hned in. An experienced barruke, especially a prime variant may prove a potentially lethal challenge as one for their first instinct would likely to be striking down at the very things keeping the warframe in place. Another concern is the amp theater may not provide the gap nessecary to avoid strikes from his fists. Should the baruuk escape give the Jedi thermal detonators, they would be able to guide the grenades to where they need to be. While a Jedi can square off with a Warframe for a short time in melee combat. Baruuk provides an extreme challenge over their typical opponents. Any Jedi slated to face a baruuk should brush up on fighting against opponents who turn off lightsabers mid combat for best success. Combat Intel also reports that very experienced baruuk may just leave you all alive and only destroy/capture the objective. This is one of the least dangerous Warframes by behaviour alone. It does not mean to under estimate it in combat poweress.

[@steveverera9999]

Meanwhile new tenno(MR14): So uh these guys drop the parts for the new weapon right? Warframe vet: yeah but the drop rate is like .4% let's just kill 10k and extract.

[@slavibg2525]

something to note you probably don't know about: there's an mod thats for baruuk specifically and its called reactive storm. What it does is it changes serene storm's(baruuk's 4) damage based on the enemy's weakness (for example if a baruuk fights superman and he has that mod on his 4 it would basically be kryptonite 2.0 lol) and it gives 200% status chance to his 4(that scales with ability strenght im pretty sure so you can have a shit ton of status chance lol)

[@giraoshaw]

Everytime I think about these scenarios as i click on the video, it dawns on how utterly screwed the Warframe's opposition truly is

[@danser_theplayer01]

This monk here: Dodges all incoming damage 360° like a damn ghost. Disarms enemies with smart daggers. Reduces damage with daggers. Puts enemies to sleep so hard, they forget they ever saw him. Reduces damage when becoming angrier. Reduces damage when using wind fist. Blasts hardened enemies into oblivion with his wind fists and deflects projectiles.

[@greyreaper800]

Great vid! I did notice that you usually skip over weapons in these vids , probably cuz theres hundreds of them. I don't want to step on your toes but perhaps you could cover the weapons that released specifically with that frame,like Rhino with the boltor or Ember with the glaive, that way you can narrow down the search for weapons and give a more accurate representation of each warfeame, but if not, hey no worries!

[@imaplaygames633]

"This one primarch was able to freeze a couple enemies in time." Rhino stomps his foot into the ground hard enough to both send people into the air AND slow them down in time, Limbo can fling you into the rift and freeze you completely, Protea controlls her own time and Gauss can flash freeze whole groups of people. To name a few.

[@lj_aderyn]

I'm interested to see Gyre and Garuda, mostly because they're my favourite. Also excited to see if Jade appears here once she gets added later this month.

[@arthurchodoroff4622]

Pls do more of these.

[@samk1135]

Something I've yet to see anyone mention is the parazon. It's basically an assassin's creed dagger that every warframe has access to by default. This is important because this dagger has the power to oneshot any enemy (provided they've taken enough damage). It's also able to kill kuva liches and sisters of parvos, enemies that can canocially die and come back to life, making them effectively unkillable with the parazon being the only way to bypass their immortality. I think that a warframe could probably kill a primarch if they used this weapon. Potentially even someone like vulkan.

[@absolutleynotanalien8096]

I wonder what would be left after a warfare battle royale

[@keemdontcare]

note: although its a mod and not base, Baruuk has access to an augment called Reactive Storm which changes the damage type of his ultimate according to the enemy's weakness.

[@AbortoMalHecho12]

Sth i would take into account is that baruuk has an exclusive mod that when he hits an enemy with his fists, their damage type changes to the target's weakness

[@potatoking5602]

3:53 and all of those elements at the same time if he uses the augment that makes it so the element adapts to the enemy weakness

[@mrracoon5077]

btw you can turn the ai off for the enemies in the simalacrum, makes it a little easier to get footage without getting knocked over or risking dying

[@elbarroetoide6898]

the most Ive heard for primarchs is Angron holding a warhound Titan's Foot for a few seconds and almost breaking everything in his body. Atlas punched a planet-killing asteroid and just one shot the thing, that's closer to damn Omni-man than any primarch so I would say that at the very least, some warframes are above Primarch level. CANT WAIT FOR VORUNA

[@steveverera9999]

Not planet killing that under sells what it says on the book. It's "Planet shattering" so at base it's moon size. With his rumblers and his final 1 punch it turned to dust,

[@Hiraeth010]

The last portion of the video mentions the warframes against prime-arch’s, something to be considered is the fact that the Tenno hold a considerable amount of power from the void, and face off against considerable threats, like the king of duvari who (I’m possibly wrong, it’s how I interpreted the lore) has a whole realm he can manipulate, basically his own little universe, one which the Tenno may or may not have created and gave to him. Theres also parvos who had his own little time space, and we fight him and aren’t rag dolled in his reality. I believe there should be enough lore to justify them possibly being on the same tier as a prime arch. There’s also some weapons to consider, since some of them have some crazy lore. The Sibears weapon states “ice in motion can crush mountains, this frozen hammer is no different.” If you want to be charitable, you can say it has the strength to shatter mountains, or you can write it off as an hyperbolic statement.

[@steveverera9999]

The king of Duviri is a toy from the drifters past. And is the one in the story book. To simply explain, the drifter created everything and got tortured by their own emotions. TH world of duviri is born from their minds and it stems from a story book the Orokin gave for them to control the emotions of children by the same name "Duviri". Also duviri is basically their own Godly dimension, The story of it revolves around how the drifter has been suffering, we gave them a helping hand and they realize that they could've ruled duviri forever but decided to stick as the drifter instead. That dimension also makes it so the drifter is more akin to a God. The only one that even manages to actually harm it is The Man in the Wall. The Protea thing too, to further explain it. The entire Granum Void is basically in its own Paradox, the reason it can travel back in time where in the quest the ship exploded and we traveled back to where we should've escaped. I mean you don't even have to go that far, Saryn, Limbo, Nova, Atlas, Rhino, Valkyr, Octavia, Wisp, Volt, Gauss, Sevagoth, Dante, Dagath, Nekros, Ash, Chroma, Grendel, Mag, Revenant, Inaros. Have their own busted af ways of dealing stuff. Each one of the ones i listed are either Planet wipers, Planet destroyers, Invulnerable, or just outright have abilities that are broken af since the meddle with forces of reality. If were talking the Tenno alone. The Tenno got their power from someone that killed all versions of them in the multiverse after making a deal and have only 2 remaining, and wielding the Void isn't just simply using it. Imagine scooping a piece of dirt and hurling it at someone. Now imagine that piece of dirt is from a dimension where all realities, all possibilities collide, and Eternalism rains supreme. In the first mission of the game we are tasked to arm a Void bomb and defend it against the infested, and it wiped out all life in the area without touching the structure. Now imagine that concentrated into a gun.

[@epsilon752]

You should also cover signature weapons if a frame has them. Garuda has Nagantaka, Gauss has Acceltra, etc.

[@joesieben1170]

Honest, i cant wait until limbo. Void wizard money gang

[@00Grimreaper00]

Warframe tennos vs destiny guardians as an idea for your next video?

[@obliviontheshadowgod6204]

since plasma edged blades do exist in warframe a fullout lightsaber duel against a warframe is totally possible and i just love that mental mage

[@Bandit74100]

There's also nekros who can just bring the dead back to life to fight on his side and in the lore He doesn't have a limit to how many he can have at once so he could turn an entire republic fleet into his own and lead it into battle to distract the clones while looking for the jedi general. He could also revive jedi from the dead and literally PUNCH THE SOUL OUT OF THEIR BODY. Warframe feats are absolutely insane if you look at the frames backstories. (Also Prime versions of Warframes in lore are the first versions, while the regular ones are just recreations that the tenno made from old orokin codices and schematics.)

[@silent0089]

Xaku vs any enemies that has impervious armor/shields and it'll just strip them away like Mr. Krabs who just molted from his shell

[@aprilmay3302]

The moment when the Frame you REALLY wanna see is SO FAR DOWN alphabetically (Voruna)

[@bluewepener2721]

Man talking about atlas: "He controls ground" Bruh. Atlas literally punched a meteor into dust.

[@baohuynh6860]

6:00 in the words of Sseth " Talk S***, get bury alive"

[@Dunkopf]

Theres a reason the main antagonist of warframe is. . . . Tap tap taping

[@YourIdeologyIsDelusional]

Warframe massacres most other settings until you start getting into Superhero settings, because Warframes for all intents and purposes scale like superheroes. Some of the most powerful Jedi and Sith could/might be able to match them, but we're talking 'Jedi' like Starkiller, or maybe some of the really powerful Jedi or Sith from the comics that were retconned. ...And it still would be in the Tenno's favor in terms of raw power. Jedi and Sith are admittedly very tool-boxy, so the most powerful of them could rely on their versatility to overcome the power of a single frame, but you have to remember: Warframes can do stuff like freeze time or _magnetize people's bones._ It's a big gap to overcome. Warhammer 40K gets absolutely flattened, possibly even worse than Star Wars, because Warhammer 40K is all about being hopeless and depressing. Starwars at least has some big name heroes that could possibly hold their own if the circumstances were favorable. In 40K, at the end of the day, even the all powerful space marines are ultimately just grunts in a chess game between gods and god like beings. The 40K gods could threaten the Tenno, but as far as I'm aware very little else in that setting would be particularly different than the enemy grunts that the Tenno regularly mow through with minimal effort.

[@crestfallensunbro6001]

I don't think any other sci-fi can beat warframes, i think some frames could even take on Warhammer Titans, and they would fold Titanfall titans. While ingame its a bit weak, wisp can blast things *WITH THE FULL CONCENTRATED POWER, OF THE SUN* Then there is the dynamic duo of Gauss and Grendel who can respectively: Run at at least the speed of sound or roll on pace with a sports car Generate either extreme heat or cold around themselves or *eat enimies with what appears to be a miniature black hole* Absorb kinetic and thermal energy and added it to their stored power or generate energy from taking damage but at the same time rapidly repair themself fuelled by either that same energy or consumed enemies Both can use their enormous momentum (one is like 90% speed theother is a more even mix) to ram things with incredible force and the latter shatters even alloy armour on impact

[@ghosthippie8465]

I give destiny flack from time to time but they're actually a reasonably strong verse that's filled with all sorts vague and weird shit going on. They have "Gods" that are capable of reality warping among other things and have displayed reasonable feats of power that could challenge even a warframe.

[@Quantumact2908]

"every single warframe has an energy shield." actually, not entirely true. Nidus and Inaros both have no shield. though unless im mistaken, they can get overshield which is basically just a worse shield

[@Pooolj]

they can get overshield but when they can tank a bombard missile to the face and just keep going as if a fly crashed into them it does not really matter lol

[@Quantumact2908]

@@Pooolj yeah, i just felt the need to clarify that... for some reason, honestly not too entirely sure why

[@MarcusVance]

That's true, that's true. I've been on a Kullervo kick recently, so should have made that connection.

[@theyondant6088]

Yeah worth noting about those two: Nidus has RIDICULOUS regeneration if he has a bunch of Mutation stacks, and Inaros straight can drain the life of those around him to return himself to life AFTER he got done dying (nevermind he can just permantnly trap someone in a sand vortex and devour their lifeforce).

[@drakobloodwing540]

Yeah, the 2 ones that don't have Shields are basically fucking immortal.What is a giant sandman?The others are living by obama

[@crab264]

Honestly, when incorporating Star Wars into thought experiments like this, it would be interesting to see The Old Republic stacked up against ridiculous lore like WarHammer 40K and Warframe. There's a lot of characters and groups that would pair up well against things like Warframes and The Imperium of Man.

[@steveverera9999]

The Corpus are already having nightmares beyond human comprehension, you sure Star wars can handle em?

[@justarandomstick9966]

For the weapons of warframe, u can use signature weapons of the warframe for the battle.

[@TheRandomLurker]

Lorgar got shot by a Titan. Several times. He lived. The titan then tried to step on him and Angron ran in, stopping the stomp and holding the titan's weight on his shoulder. Primarchs seem down to earth at first but they have a tendency to have severe plot armor *in actual canon* that lets them do anime level of shenanigans. Warframes are extremely strong and are basically walking genocide engines, but the sheer durability of a primarch can't be discounted because the warp itself seems to bend reality in order to keep them around. It's the equivalent of the assassination mission having invulnerability phases and them getting away in the end, which Warframes unfortunately can't get around.

[@minasthirith6314]

Drag the primarch to the Void. Let Wally deal with _this_ bullshit.

[@TheRandomLurker]

@@minasthirith6314 Wally is, for all intents and purposes, a Chaos God in his own right, and therefore he may attempt to make a deal with any primarchs he can. That said, this means all Operators/Drifters/Tenno are basically Daemon Princes of Wally, and Void damage literally attacks the very soul and would be one of the best ways of dealing with primarchs. Daemons would likely be dealt with extremely similarly to Thrax grineer and other void horrors, though this *also* means the tenno can actually cause true damage to them so they'd be terrified.

[@minasthirith6314]

@@TheRandomLurker That's true. That's true.

[@theyondant6088]

Just want to clarify something important about those saying 'Lorgar survive a direct hit from a titan!', no he really didn't. Lorgar was a powerful psyker by this point, and he created a psychic shield that blocked two Titan-grade plasma shots, however those two shots still nearly killed him, knocking him down and draining him severely. He was able to block a Titan shot with a psychic shield, but that is NOT indicative of what a Primarch can generally survive; even Vulkan got basically disintegrated by re-entry heat falling from orbit, and plasma actually gets MUCH hotter than that. Make no mistake, a Primarch can survive and even shrug off RIDICULOUS amounts of punishment with functionally no long-term damage, and I sincerely doubt most Warframes would really match up beyond being able to survive long enough to disengage and escape, if even that. But Primarchs are by no means indestructible.

[@TheRandomLurker]

@theyondant6088 I mean, I'd say generating a shield that eats the hit counts as "surviving a direct hit from a titan". Not only was he the one that generated them, but he survived, even if it was barely. The shots were aimed at him, it wasn't the blast of a shot aimed elsewhere. A Primarch's psychic abilities play just as much a favor in their durability as anything else.

[@kriss3401]

warframe, maybe not ALL of them, but many could definitely be at the level of a primarch, if we're looking gameplay or lore wise etc, some are just absolutely absurd in power, especially revenant and also there is a thing called the helminth, where you can sacrifice a warframe to take one of their (predetermined, chosen by the devs) powers, and to put it on some other frames, one of them being a 40+m aoe wave that literally removes completely any armor/energy shield the enemies in the area have, like, imagine a space marine basically being reduced to their bare clothing and exoskeleton, the armored part being removed entirely

[@lacidar3752]

A loyalist primarch survivability feat is humorously literal plot armor. The warp won’t let them die outside of dramatic, climactic battles. Traitor primarchs no. Magnus and lorgar are the best chances here to win. Magnus can make a flamethrower that melts eldar titan-scale targets. As a daemon he has near-immunity to conventional ranged weapons like said titan via barriers (you pretty much have to use magic or melee, something warframes have no problem with). His telekinesis can lift a capitol imperialis (which is in the kiloton range). His powers can create a portal to suck a target into the warp, ignore armor, cover… A blood angel tasted sanguinius’ blood and it allowed him to see lasers standing still, for speed/perception feats. Angron held up a titan and lived through its plasma cannon blast. Not sure how this levels against warframes but it’s something.

[@LDSG_A_Team]

Hilariously, this is still a SEVERE underestimation of what Warframes are capable of 😂

[@MarcusVance]

I'm intentionally not getting into weapons or builds or mods.

[@LDSG_A_Team]

@@MarcusVance I totally understand why, lol. Warframes are already ridiculous enough as it is. Taking builds into account that make them literally BILLIONS of times more powerful in some cases would get silly, even if that really is canon to the lore of Warframe (which it is). It's already challenging enough to discuss the implications of various Warframe abilities at base. Look at Nova's antimatter shenanigans and portals. Look at Nekros literally punching the SOUL out of enemies and then resurrecting them as his minions. Look at Wisp opening portals to the sun, which is her WEAKEST ability, hilariously enough. Look at Caliban rapidly adapting to incoming attacks, even if he doesn't actually take any damage from them. Look at Dagath, who can deal a bunch of damage to you and then make you take it all again a second time. Look at Garuda ripping blood out of her enemies' bodies and using it as a weapon. Look at Valkyr's complete invulnerability to all damage when channeling her 4. Look at Ember raining meteors down from the sky. Warframes are already WILD.

[@coma2726]

​@@LDSG_A_Teamnekros has the soul punch not nidus, nidus is the immortal infection with tyranid like abilities and can ignore armor.

[@LDSG_A_Team]

@@coma2726 whoops, my bad! Good catch, thanks!

[@vaia316]

In warhammer 40k, if you take account that the sisters of silence acomppany the custodes, you could say that a warframe has a squad of nullifier crewmans beside them at all times, and if a warframe gets notable enough, they could be a target of a culexus assasin the one that shoots the null beam. In those two scenarios the warframe get reduced to their base capabilities, that would be somewhat easier to scale. If you matched the warframes with other factions, the only ones with nullifier analog would be the necrons, with their pillars. All the other factions get a warframe in all their glory.

[@MarcusVance]

Not quite. The Warp in 40k is like a big pool of psychic emotion. The Sisters of Silence are Blanks, so they don't have a presence in The Warp-which hurts things sensitive to it. In Warframe, it's The Void, which is just another dimension that has nothing to do with emotion. So the Blanks wouldn't really interact with the Tenno in the way they do with psykers. Meanwhile if we're getting REALLY NERDY AND TECHNICAL the Renno would themselves essentially be some Uber-Blank since they're from a different setting and have no imprint on the Warp.

[@steveverera9999]

@@MarcusVance The void is not exactly nothing to do with emotion, it's just most people that do wield it with emotion are either dead or bound to its will. Wally is only the indifference, but he wields it with pure malice and the one that we know that has the most powerful grasp of the void. Hell the love of 2 people is enough to build a gate but that's more to do with citrine being there and the tenno controlling her. Or the most well spread example, Duviri.

[@jordanwilliams3768]

Waiting for a grineer vs orks video

[@TheNeverPoet]

5:14 we have Limbo. he does precisely that

[@Geese3]

Personally for the 40k bit, certain warframes could definitely beat the primarchs, they can still die, be corrupted, and have limitations, revenant hard counters them as he not only corrupts but he tanks hits and ignores armor, yes some primarchs are effectively immortal because the forces of chaos, or through tech, or other mess, but warframes have a counter to this [Spoiler for the war within and beyond] warframes have access to a mod set call requiems which removes immortality on any being, whether lich, sister, or otherwise, so unless the primarchs power is comparable to the strongest tyranids and daemons known, the warframes can kill them, and its not gonna be a massive challenge, warframes have fought beings who adapt to any attack and can kill them without removing this adaptation, and theyve killed eidolons, orb mothers, and planet sized sentient destroyers in lore, and thats not including that frames normally break physics with some abilities. If you put warframes in 40k with their only goal being to take down the imperium, theyd get it done very easily, theyll sabotage, assassinate, and destroy all their resources until yhey crumble.

[@kartorrent7496]

I’d like to see how Vauban does (I, myself, am A Vauban Main, and 99% of the time I have the Slash Mines out and nothing else, it works wonders when the slash attack does big damage in one hit, has several hits (And at an even more rapid pace if I stack the mines on top of eachother.) and has this neat effect where it bypasses all armour, dealing something called, “True Damage,”.)

[@kartorrent7496]

All I need is the Prime Systems…

[@clericofzombies1177]

When It comes to power scaling if the Tenno have gained enough territory in time the IOM would have to muster aLOT of resources to defeat the opposing side but the IOM would not be able to recover in time to keep up with the other factions ultimately dooming the IOM in the long run. But on the other hand the Tenno would be the best aliy the IOM would want, if Gillimen makes contact first and everything goes well :)

[@tmplblck]

All Warframes come out of the Foundry able to deflect incoming fire from the front while holding a melee weapon, yes. Baruuk is different in that he can just ignore the incoming fire from all directions with any weapon.

[@tmplblck]

(it's ability range. more range, more degrees.)

[@ArchJ17]

Patiently waiting for ash aka like the warframe universes best assassin in lore.

[@rotta7057]

Didnt he do Ash already?

[@MarcusVance]

​@@rotta7057He did

[@rotta7057]

@@MarcusVance nice I remebered correctly. Great video btw

[@technokingshadow6323]

Personally the best way to gauge warframes is to definitely look at their lore and their feets in their lower accurate versions and then you better cage where they would be placed in 40K but at the same time kind of a Ally to the humans and also kind of a basically X Factor no one's really don't know what they're going to do but due to the fact that they mainly do good

[@averywhitaker3513]

Hey Marcus, can we get a warframe feet tierlist?

[@MathewDHennen]

Warframes are hard to deal with because their power is all void based. Some technology exists to counteract that, but in game it's little more than a minor annoyance. Furthermore, if we assume that story missions, event missions, etc, are the canonical strength of our enemies. Which I do believe to be a fair assumption myself. Then Warframes are at such a level that modless they're unstoppable killing machines. You start adding any level of mods and an endgame frame is literally unkillable and measures their kills per minute in the hundreds. As far as these VS style arguments go, Warframe is one of those where you really can't power scale fairly. I appreciate Star Wars, I appreciate 40k, a single Warframe can solo their entire verses if allowed mods. The only way to make things fair is to remove the gameplay aspect, but doing that gives you games like Limbo who are even stronger than their playable counterpart. So it's really just not a fair argument. That said, I am a sucker for a good VS debate, even if match-up isn't exactly fair.

[@saulhernandez6332]

Please Please PLEASE get to inaros soon! I cant wait for him!!

[@saulhernandez6332]

Inaros, the god king, turned mars into a weapon to fight off the Orokin

[@alisbin]

Yeah, lorewise mars surface sand is actually all nano machines that are made by and technically part of inaros.

[@chaosgyro]

I'm having trouble believing a Warframe COULDN'T beat a primarch.

[@limysyenpai537]

biggest flaw of a warframe is it's operator find the operator which is always on the ship orbiting the planet the warframe is in and you can just kill the operator. Or use magnetic field to drain or prevent the warframe from using it's skills which kills most of the warframes that heavily relies on skills to survive.

[@thegrouchization]

A few problems with that plan: Firstly, the ship you're looking for is hidden in the Void, so trying to find it would be all but impossible. It also doesn't need to be in orbit for the Transference signal to work. Several missions (Mars Mirror Defence, Lua Rescue, Void/Derelict Sabotage) show that the feed will remain stable even across interplanetary distances. Hell, recent story events have shown that a Transference signal can be redirected into the distant past without issue. Secondly, Operators are only confined to the ship before they unlock their innate Transference. Once that happens they can warp between the chair and directly possessing their frame at will. Third, even if you manage to pin down their location, the Operator is immortal. Killing it just results in it returning to life on the spot, none the worse for wear. Even banishing it through a portal to the Void itself will only buy time. As for the magnetic fields thing, you should probably know that it would only partially hamper a Warframe, and even the most frail of caster frames is still a superhumanly strong and durable killing machine capable of bringing itself back to life (and that's without even touching the fact that they have several direct counters to this supposed "weakness").

[@wisamaltory509]

My friend this is only the beginning ,warframd has some very broken stuff,like that octaviA or nezha or revenant and dante too

[@Jimbobda1st]

I'm pretty sure I've seen a Frame block a small explosion with the melee weapon

[@averywhitaker3513]

They can block it, but they will still take damage. Some explosions have direct impact damage, which the warframe can block, and aoe that they can't (If everything's working correctly*. The game can be buggy sometimes)

[@darkreflection9087]

Warframe vs Destiny Guardian

[@steveverera9999]

Lowest of the low rank frames, At best it would take 50 fully coordinated, fully kitted out, raid team ready guardians to beat loki. And that's him without using weapons, mods or other stuff. With severe casualties on the guardian side, like at least 37-45 guardians would be fully dead. Mods + weapons is overkill with Loki. He would recreate what Crota did on a larger scale.

[@Aerowarrier]

Problem is a lot of the more crazy Primarch feats were done in the Warp, like Corvus’ rampage against the Wordbearers, so there’s no telling how much of that corresponds to them in the material plane. Magnus did manage to teleport an entire planet from the Warp to real-space but that wasn’t with his own sheer power alone. Lion’El Johnson can basically planeshift now so that’s cool, I don’t know any impressive combat feats for him though. Warframes would at least have a hard time killing Vulkan if nothing else since he’s a Perpetual. Hopefully we’ll see what ten thousand years has done to Jaghatai and Leman soon and they’ll show off some of the realized potential of a more martially focused Primarch

[@Aerowarrier]

One that isn’t corrupted/empowered by chaos anyway. Tho it’s implied that the Daemon Primarchs might actually be weaker than they would have been if they hadn’t given themselves up to Chaos, especially with how powerful Corvus is now

[@craterface2940]

impressive combat feats of the Lion, let me think.... he killed alot of varied chaos beast in his youth, he is probably in the top3 best swordfighters amoung the primarchs. he killed demon Angron at one point. he wasn't slayed by Konrad several times. Konrad fighting style is maybe the closest to that of warframes amoung the primearch. unless its angron.

[@Aerowarrier]

@@craterface2940 I mean yeah but none of that is much compared to freezing time as an afterthought and slaughtering an entire group of super soldiers in seconds or sending people to the stratosphere with a single punch. None of the Horus Heresy things really stack up to Warframes just cuz they weren’t facing the ludicrously powerful things in 40k back then until the very end. And even Sanguinius couldn’t stand up to Horus so bleh. We just haven’t really had the chance to see what a Primarch with 10000 years of honing his craft is capable of without any deamonic corruption clouding his strength yet

[@osmacar5331]

Depends on the warframe. However most warframes can plaster 40k. And it's the only verse that could. And make note the abilities in game is for gameplay reasons, in actuality warframes are a LOT more powerful than in game. The game is a sample of their capabilities. Like mag, she controls electromagnetism. That's powerful as she can agitate electrons. Volt is palpatine and can make ionised shields. And Gauss is just a torpedo with legs and plating so slecialised thag it doesn't lose effectiveness when superheated, and in fact gets tougher. Plus he can dispense of stored energy from him booking it.

[@Pionear.cg.]

In the future why not use a frames signature weapons? Eg garuda and her crossbow or revenant with the phantasma and his melee etc. Could just be usefull to further compare them

[@beansfromouterspace849]

God wait till he gets to protea

[@jonathanmanard7797]

Asking for feats jhagatai khan was able to turn thosands of orcs to mush in mere minutes. Ferrus mannus as a newborn cracked his planets crust and i believe went into the mantle as he was yeeted by chaos. Magnus is able to warp reality like hes playing a modded skyrim save. Vulcan is literally immortal he can be disintegrated, chopped up, thrown into space or anything else and he will always come back. The reality of it is like the tenno the primarchs are sort of paracausal but nowhere near like a tenno

[@TheJazzDog]

I mean, mutated nidus is literaly imortal, and gauss can casualy move fast enough to redirect bullets back at you like in his prime trailer.

[@Danomnomnom]

The other thing that is relevant to Baruuk is his Restraint meter. His 4 can only be cast when his restraint isn't full. And his 1, 2, *and* 3 all contribute to reducing restraint. Just imagine a large squad opening fire on Baruuk with his dodge active, and then being pummelled by the Serene Storm. Thats a horrifying prospect.

[@silversteve4293]

One of the Primarcs held up a warlord titan when it tried to crush it. I don't remember the exact details but that sounds like a similar feat to what atlas did. For a durability feat i do want to say that even Fulgrim got obliterated from a point blank virus bomb. Nova's small ball could do similar damage (although in a much smaller radius) I would also like to point out the the warframe called Nidus at lvl 0 against a lvl 1 greener can regenerate faster (higher lvls get really ify thanks to mods and scaling and ect but my Nidus can withstand ridiculously high enemy lvl like 500) so at least Nidus should have similar endurance to custodes who can even fight with a blown out brain

[@averywhitaker3513]

Its a warhound (not warlord) and angron very nearly breaks trying to shift its weight off of him. Meanwhile, atlas OPM's the planet shattering asteroid without taking damage. It's a very different situation though. Literally the difference between holding something over the head versus punching the floor. As far as a virus bomb goes, there are several ways for warframes to produce toxins, gasses, and/or bioweapons capable of destroying inorganic materials. I also don't like the comparison of a virus bomb to antimatter because, once again, entirely different. But, for the sake of all this, yes nova can produce antimatter capable of destroying (annihilating, if you're feeling technical) anything made of matter. That would include primarchs, but not warframes, for two reasons. Most warframes cannot be killed in a single hit, regardless of what non-magical source it comes from, because of shield gating. The mechanic is such that when shield drop from a large percentage to 0%, they induce a short period of invulnerability. Several frames can do similar things on demand, but shield gating is passive and intrinsic for all but like, three (?) warframes. The second reason, is that warframes are immortal. They can just revive, without the limit for 4 per mission (gameplay mechanic), forever. Even after being entirely destroyed. There is a way for some units to destroy a warframe, but that requires oro (we have no information on what oro is), having the power of a sentient(whatever that means) or mathing it out of existence. Not a typo, just gotta anti-life equation the freaks. And lastly, warframes don't have brains or organs, they're just sacks of heavily infested metal meat, puppeted around by children champions of the Man in the Wall. They could fight without a head just as well as with. Barring some frames like chroma who _might_ need a head to spit elements. Honestly might be able to spit it regardless, but there's a chance not

[@averywhitaker3513]

This is almost entirely off topic, but have you ever heard of the marine rowing a boat that pissed off God?