Warhammer 40K Space Marine 2 All Thousand Sons Chaos Space Marines Cutscenes

[@Bestoftherest222]

The studio did an amazing job keeping things looking lore accurate. I wasnt expecting a perfect display, but man did they exceed expectations. Great game!

[@geeman.8081]

I'm a casual warhammer fan with casual knowledge of the lore. This game has encouraged me to get into the lore as well as the tabletop game.

[@Waywardpaladin]

Shouldn't the sorcerer have no mutations? The Rubric is supposed to make their flesh inviolate.

[@yoelchristian6332]

The only thing that didn't make sense to me are how rubicon marine are in the same size with the Primaris Marine, aren't they supposed to be smaller considering they are firstborn.

[@TrippyTimesTwo]

@@geeman.8081 Same here, minus the tabletop part because I suck at painting, and I have enough expensive hobbies as is. I was getting into the lore over the course of this year, now I’m throwing myself at it. Awesome stuff.

[@nevermore7285]

@@Waywardpaladinthey can be, but some of them choose to become mutated, seeing it as a source of strength.

[@kaneslives]

Bit of sad irony. Magnus and Guilliman respected each other and had very similar mind sets about what to do with there Legions after the Great Crusade. They wanted there sons to be more than conquerors and become guides, teachers, statesmen and just all around be good people to humanity.

[@dschehutinefer5627]

Well, somewhat similar thoughts on many issues, but the respect thing is more up to interpretation. In the books they barely ever interact at all and Guilliman for his part is mostly indifferent towards most of his brothers. He did quietly side with Magnus at Nikaea though.

[@Dtuba15]

Of all the tertiary legions I think the 1000 sons would be the most likely to become loyal again if things fell right for it to happen.

[@atlash6387]

​@Dtuba15 I would say they are one of the least likely to become loyal.

[@Dtuba15]

@@atlash6387 now that I think about it I agree.

[@dschehutinefer5627]

@@atlash6387 In the post-Gathering Storm canon? No way in hell they become loyal again, with GW making sure that that Magnus has no soul left and is just a generic doomsday villain actively fighting the Imperium. In the preceding decades however? It actually looked like it had a minuscule possibility. At least Magnus was fine just sitting tight in the Eye of Terror, with TS warbands joining Black Crusades explicitly being outcasts Magnus himself threw out and all the fighting the TS as a legion did being solely targeting the Space Wolves. Given how Magnus was tricked and forced into serving Tzeentch in a position of actually being loyal to the Imperium and deeply desiring to break free of Tzeentch... back then it looked like him actually accomplishing that and, even if not actually re-joining the Imperium, but at least gaining the freedom to do his own thing, might have actually been on the table. Of course, the Imperium of the 41th millennium is such a dogmatic and hostile place, particularly when it comes to exploring arcane arts, that Magnus even in such a situation would rather die than bow to such fools. Least likely I wouldn't say though. Many of the other legions are far too gone as well and had been traitors even before becoming consumed by Chaos. I also thought the Rubric made the TS sorcerers immune to both mutations and warp-induced madness, so even the "regular" TS probably is quite a lot more... coherent... than many of the other traitors.

[@Toofarvar]

Guy was on calth during the heresy I understand the rage and anger at seeing a traitor 😂

[@dyingearth]

Albeit, it was Word Bearers not Thousand Sons that attacked Ultramarines on Calth. He became a 'volunteer' Primarius test subject for the next 10K years until Guillima's return.

[@spartan-qm2zv]

A traitor is traitor and they all the same to Charon at least

[@marcusaustralius2416]

Where his Mark? His whole face should look like it was half burned off, sadly none of the survivors went without the scarring

[@raro344]

@@marcusaustralius2416 He said he was a child so probably was underground when the whole thing when to hell. But after reading both the novella and forgebook.....damn that is hatred, that is like, A LOT of hatred.

[@marcusaustralius2416]

@@raro344 yeah nah that's my bad, I forgot it's just the troops that fought that got the Mark Went through parts of the book, turns out they had already pre-built many of the arcologies underground, they weren't fully populated and were still under construction in large part but they were there

[@Shikamarulovehistory]

I like the detail of Cadian traitors, you can tell they are not loyal at first sight by comparing what all the other Cadian NPCs do vs what this first one does.

[@Jaxbrix-g2y]

They act weird, like glancing around to each other like "uhhm what do we do"

[@MightandLight]

And by the time the explosion go off they have all fully changed gear in a matter of seconds so we can tell they are traitors. Now that's commitment

[@hathawayishere]

Its also their eyes they arent cadian they dont have purple eyes

[@Nickname-ef9tv]

@@hathawayishere Since they got scattered around quite a bit i wouldn't be surprised if Cadian regiments have people without purple eyes in their ranks (Titus and his squad were entirely unfazed at first). It is them acting out of character that quickly set off their alarm bells.

[@hathawayishere]

@@Nickname-ef9tv cadians are distinct from other guardsmen entirely due to being made up from cadians. While true a majority of the time you can tell if its a heretic by their eyes. You can actually see titus being uneasy and very suspuscious already in the beginning.

[@lordofchangelulz6645]

Im suprised that there are no pink horrors in this. They are the basic infantry of Tzeentch.

[@Justmyopinionsir-q4v]

tzeentch decided that for this one, he would not send out the gae

[@jordanwebb1543]

Proabably hard to animate all that pink warp fire they almost exclusively spam. Rubric Marines are cool enough imo

[@ieatmice751]

There aren’t any demons in the game, it’s just cultists, Tzaangors and rubric marines

[@sameiimo1734]

I'd assume the shadow in the warp has something to do with it, probably harder to get daemons in when the Tyranids are putting a blanket over your powers and such.

[@thecandlemaker1329]

Pink horrors are the basic infantry of Tzeentch daemons. These are the Thousand Sons, whose basic infantry are tzaangors. These armies are allied, but different.

[@stepanserdyuk4589]

"Traitors... you will burn!" The dust isn't flammable

[@marlikbudvergard]

Yeah, and the funniest part of his hatred, is there is no receptor to it

[@Cedar_Wolf]

Dust is remarkably flammable. There's some amazing videos of dust explosions on KZbin if you look for them.

[@georgetazberik6834]

I don't totally understand the physics/chemistry of it but it's my understanding that dust mixed into air makes the air more likely to catch fire somehow. Meaning it's the air with fine dust mixed in that is flammable and not the dust itself.

[@idfpepe2459]

​@georgetazberik6834 considering this dust is a magic one, doubt anyone but a psyker can burn it

[@GorchakovVS]

@@marlikbudvergard Even if there was(living sorcerers) it's still misplaced because his beef is with World Bearers, not TSons who did nothing wrong.

[@Solo_1914]

18:32 what an amazing choice of words

[@somerandomguyfromtheintern480]

Asian guy, black guy, white guy, and all no one bitching about DEI and hating of Leandros. This is the way.

[@Cadian9t]

Ye cos they're just marines. Not once does he look at the camera and go " man, this whitey be talking crazy " or say " hey look titus, I'm american "

[@roguedrones]

@@Cadian9t DEI is anti-white racism, but at least with ultramarines and their MASSIVE armies from many worlds, it makes more sense.

[@tauva33]

But no latina

[@atomicforgery9266]

I don't see what that crowd is complaining about to begin with. They're like a trillion humans in 40K, it's not impossible for a space marine to be a different ethnicity as long as they can survive the process. Pariah Nexus had an asian Salamander.

[@tabularasa648]

Imureh looks like a typical DEI Liberal with the bald side and hair on one side. A fitting image of typical liberal who sold their soul to the warp should they have any "representation" in a Warhammer 40k setting.

[@spvstu]

I like the main guy has infernal master back pack but exalted sorcerer accessories and disc. It builds his character’s power and customizing just like an actual 40k model.

[@Nickname-ef9tv]

Not just models, in-canon chaos space marines do a lot of scavenging.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

​@@Nickname-ef9tvThousand sons were well supplied by their acolytes and if I'm not mistaken they have a deal with Perturabo and Medrengard. Usually they change wargear because it suits their objectives, like this gauntlet was from a sorc guy from a different warband that is blessed by Tzeentch in some way, those kinds of things

[@Conmon115]

"Second Company! We hold this ground in the name of the Primarch!" 14:43

[@Briggers0810]

"If we die, we die with vengeance on our lips!"

[@Conmon115]

@@Briggers0810 "VENGEANCE!"

[@dragonrider1736]

It is better to die for the emperor than to live for yourself! In the name of our father, WE DIE IN GLORY!

[@jasonyun1158]

"Get up and hold this ground!" "My legs are gone Brother"

[@Dillamusic90]

never in my life heard of warhammer 40k, I bought this game because of the good critics, now i am so into the lore of this universe, is so good. I really thought this was just power armors fighting aliens, but all the distopic-religion thing is awesome. Let´s hunt those heretics!

[@idfpepe2459]

Hydra Dominatus

[@monkmonk275]

Brother, you went down on a rabbit hole that you cannot get out, welcome and remember ONLY IN DEATH DOSE THE DUTY ENDS...FOR THE EMPEROR!!!

[@Dillamusic90]

@@monkmonk275I just bought my first miniatures and painting. I am so into this man haha best universe and lore ever

[@jasonyun1158]

"THARIUS GET UP AND HOLD THIS GROUND FOR THE PRIMARCH" "Bitch my legs are gone"

[@drgonzo305]

That thousand son entrance after he takes control of the Astropath is amazing. The lightning bolt turning into the reaper is awesome

[@ThePsychicMaster64]

Its actually a staff, all of the thousand sons sorcerers wield force staves; the one imurah uses is based on a real staff that's found in the kit for exalted sorcerers. I never noticed that it kind of looks like a reaper until you pointed it out tho

[@thecandlemaker1329]

Why do you keep calling a scythe a "reaper"? A reaper is the person who wields it. Is this what English has come to?

[@drgonzo305]

@@thecandlemaker1329 because in 40k it’s generally called a reaper or a man-reaper if it’s held by the death guard or Mortarian

[@drlca6601]

@@drgonzo305 lmao got em

[@Generalscorpio]

That sorcerer needs to be a new Thousand Sons model.

[@brandonlee934]

ya it's a very good design

[@thanhhoangnguyen4754]

​​@@brandonlee934 Although it need the head only. Considering his armor basically kit from exalted sorcerer.

[@furrybogard9724]

It's funny when someone doesn't know the game all that well and is introduced, and thinks, 'Cool, it's like Gears of War'. Then they see a scene when their standing next to regular humans and absolutely tower over them like complete juggernauts and say 'Oh! NOW I see why you all like this! I'm in.'

[@4n9usBur93R]

Calgar is like the dad we all need... riving in agony as the warp splits your atoms and all he shouts is "GET UP". This just shows how much of a hard bastard he really is.

[@Sombra-lf6gm]

Imurah began as comically evil dude and turned into typical "kalgar dropped me in the warp and i am very angry now((("

[@wintertrooper7918]

I'm pretty sure the reason that greater demon that he summons from the massive rift DOESNT just fuck everything and everyone to hell is simply cause teezntch (?) Found Imurah to be an annoying prick and just wanted the ultramarines to kill him so he wouldn't have to waste his time

[@pikminmaster2165]

@@wintertrooper7918 And let's be honest here: Tzeentch does not want to fully win the war, otherwise there wouldn't be anyone to scheme against.

[@wintertrooper7918]

@@pikminmaster2165 yeah if he won then he'd go poof

[@MightandLight]

​@@wintertrooper7918Naaah you got it all wrong. Tzeentch gave that mission to Imurah then immediately sabotaged him by influencing the ultramarines enough so they would find out about it and try to stop him.... Only to then sabotage the ultramarines as well so they couldn't

[@solarendband]

That marine was on Calth during the word bearers invasion?? Didn’t that happened during the Horus Heresy? About 10,000 years before this and the Primaris? Tell me if I’m wrong, I know Space marine can live centuries, but how can he live for that long?

[@MaikelJayksoon]

A lot of first generation Primaris marines were actually volunteers who were collected during and right after the Heresy to be experimented on by Cawl. Those marines were then kept in stasis until Gullimanns awakening, when he could finally give the Primaris marines the green light (because he also ordered the creation of Primaris marines but was obviously dispatched until the 41st millennium). That is why many Primaris marines (initially known as the nameless legion or something like that) literally went to sleep in 30th millennium and woke up 10000 years later

[@Nickname-ef9tv]

Theoretically Space Marines are immortal, though their profession brings such high mortality rates that it is exceedingly rare to live past 1000 years. Not to mention that some chapters have an unstable genetic setup. Serving 300+ years is already a very good cut. Virtually every Space Marine who gets past 1000 years is either entombed in a dreadnought (basically walking coffins with massive armor and firepower), has been in stasis for some time, or got lost in the warp where time and aging is completely erratic.

[@solarendband]

@@MaikelJayksoon oooh ok… I didn’t know that part. Thanks for the clarification!

[@zachar40k]

@@MaikelJayksoon they were not volunteers, they were kidnapped as children.

[@Invictus1293]

@@solarendband all the Primaris that weren’t made in 40k came from 30k. Like they woke up and the Horus Heresy was the last thing they remember and they were kids becoming Space Marines. They got froze for 10k years.

[@ThePsychicMaster64]

Man this is all so cool Can we please get aa thousand sons range update now

[@Abaddon86]

The way of sending an Email,in the grim dark future... 5:55

[@husky2961]

Being someone new over the lore. I was confuse why the previous normal soldier actually bow down when they saw the ultramarine but not the one in the dome. They just shout ultramarine and ended up looks suspicious

[@Cyrus-rodn45]

How does chaos psykers power works during a tyranid invasion, thought the shadow in the warp completely nullifies it. Or am i missing something

[@dannybutts6877]

The shadow in the warp does mess with interferes with and suppresses the warp psykers and their powers yes but a strong enough psyker can push through this and still manifest their power it's just a lot harder for them and it's the same for when they face the null Aura of a pariah or blank like the sisters of silence hell a strong enough psyker can even override the Aura of a sufficiently weaker pariah

[@campbellcrum8478]

It doesn't nullify it completely, it just makes it much harder to use, and the psyker can always "feel" the presence of the Hive Mind in the background.

[@Cyrus-rodn45]

@@campbellcrum8478 okay

[@Brasswatchman]

Invasion might not be that far along. The shadow in the warp might not've fully taken hold yet.

[@killermax5]

I guess they dont have to worry about guarding from the corrupting influence of the warp itself which makes it much easier to use.

[@Nverdis]

🤨 Hey would Calgar recognize Necron architecture and tech when he sees it? Perhaps he would be more pragmatic in this sort of situation considering we got Thousand Sons to worry about but still

[@wintertrooper7918]

After like 400+ years of service you're bound to learn a thing or two about after fighting on hundreds if not thousands of worlds

[@darulezlulez2625]

What happens when you kill more than thousand traitor astartes? Isn't the Legion theoretically wiped out then?

[@Shikamarulovehistory]

They just go to the void

[@ShadowGhost0117]

To be fair, they got that name due to the fact that since they have super unstable geen-seed (normal marine one moment, next thing you know he’s a chaos spawn) they were on the verge of dying out. By the time Magnus The Red was found, there were only a thousand left. They grew to be a larger Legion afterwards (still on the smaller end of the Legions with only a few thousand).

[@ieatmice751]

First of all that’s just a name, second of all I’m pretty sure that due to their immaterial nature, rubric marines reform like demons after a while

[@juanpaez8423]

@@Shikamarulovehistory they regenerate or smth? or they just get killed and thats it

[@fabaan4220]

​@@juanpaez8423they go to the warp after death. They can just exit the warp later and return. Also the rubricae arent really "alive" so they can easily be assmbled again

[@Nickname-ef9tv]

Leuzes intentions were pure, but everything else was _way_ off the mark.

[@disgruntledtoons]

They spent a long time looking at those Thousand Sons before taking action.

[@tauva33]

seems mechanicus using necron tech, make sense primarch and cawl finding a tech that can close the warp, so mechanicus research it only tech can close it was necron one. It wasnt heresy they just being deceived by thousand sons, well at least we seing some progress, but it comes at a great cost of many live lost. I hope next warhammer games continue its timeline after space marine 2.

[@Th3ba1r0n]

15:00 That is SO a "300" moment. lol "Ultramarines! What is your profession?!" >:O

[@karljohan2300]

its nice to see someone else but nurgle and khorne get all th elove

[@warpcrafter]

When does this game take place? The Word Bearers attack on Calth was during the very beginning of the Horus Heresy. In the 32nd millennium.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

The game takes place in modern 40k. Many Primaris marines (mainly the initial batch that were unleashed) were volunteers that Cawl gathered during and after the Heresy on orders from Guilliman. They were placed in stasis, waiting to be awoken when Guilliman ordered it, and would most definitely have been unleashed thousands of years sooner had Guilliman not been placed in stasis due to Fulgrim nearly killing him.

[@idfpepe2459]

M42-early 43? Because Guillman has already been resurrected

[@the_96_studios]

The only dude with a helmet is the one that dies 💀💀💀

[@alienlordgamin5339]

9:04 I’ll admit, I’m not super familiar with ultramarine and wordbearer lore; was there a “recent” attack on Cath? The only time I can think was during the heresy.

[@irgilligan]

That's the one he's referring to

[@jasonluetge6681]

He is referring to the heresy battle. Either he was a ultramarine back then and underwent the rubicon primaries (becoming a primaris marine) or much much more likely he was a boy on Calth and was selected to become a primaris marine by Cawl. Either way he was frozen and only returned after robute guilimans return.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

What I like about Chairon is that he fight like a pre-angrom World Eater.

[@ethantaylor9613]

And that kids, is why you don’t show your devotion to the dark powers with tattoos

[@alex21390]

I’m a bit of a casual. What was on the Guardsman’s arm that alerted the Spacemarine?

[@GrayRookwood]

A mark of chaos.

[@alex21390]

@@GrayRookwood after going down the wiki now I see it. Right under his wrist is a mark of Tzeentch. I was only familiar with the 8 point mark. I didn’t know there was more

[@GrayRookwood]

@@alex21390 I'm a novice and new to the lore, I assume there are various different markings for the many dark gods that inhabit the warp, I wonder what servants of chaos we will encounter should there ever be a space marine 3.

[@arrowtt3364]

It was the Eye of Tzeentch

[@mattblencowe9576]

Yah nah Magnus did nothing wrong 😊

[@57ham]

yea he was supposed to do nothing, and he did it wrong

[@angry_zergling]

@@57ham HEY!

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

He did everything wrong. For the right reasons, but still, he did everything wrong. And he knows it. Still my favorite Primarch.

[@Illmare]

He fell victim of his own ego, bro had good intentions but ended up causing Armageddon lol.

[@tipodeincognito5660]

​@@IllmareTo be fair, the Emperor bears a lot of blame for what happened. Should he have talked about the existance of chaos to him clearly, he probably would have understood.

[@benjiboy111111]

Wish they had sand coming out of the rubric marines

[@ThePsychicMaster64]

They do, when they die you can see glowy warp dust spill out of them. I do agree it would have been cool to make the effects more sand-like, but that would have been a lot more work on top of an already very technically intensive game

[@mcswaggerduff8946]

They do spew sand when you deal damage to them in game and during executions

[@nevermore7285]

They erupt in a purple dust geyser when you execute them

[@eclipse3037]

bro got the carmine treatment

[@levistapleton930]

0:48 That's weird? I think I need to get my eyes checked .Surely somebody didn't just make something up that has no grounds in the lore.

[@thewindowsmaaane]

What are you talking about?

[@SpaceMan101South]

@@thewindowsmaaane Just ignore him, typical worshiper of Tzeentch making stuff up to pretend like they know something you don't. Don't think about it too hard or he might actually gain some power over it.

[@thewindowsmaaane]

@@SpaceMan101South yeah what a weird pric

[@nevermore7285]

No grounds in the lore against it either

[@jagermaestro1]

Yeah you did, you made up that the gene seed changes people to all look like clones or that Ultramar, a region of space with several planets, only has 1 race. Which brand of mental deficiency is it? Where on the spectrum doth thy lie mutant?

[@jeff5534]

Was it an Eye of Terror tattoo that gave him away?

[@thecandlemaker1329]

It's not the eye of terror.

[@mikeylejan8849]

I love the game but too many technical issues!

[@ero9841]

Imurah sounds like tts airman. I just realized it.

[@thatoneguy9857]

Why he got that haircut tho 😭

[@rafaeltiburcio6624]

Which one? Imurah? Honestly with that ahir cut I thought he was an Emperor's Child if it weren't for all the blue

[@andrewcrane5105]

he is be done there that then

[@robbiestafford6889]

If your on about Imurah I’d suspect he’s suffering from The Flesh Change to some degree, since he is a Flesh Thousand Son, not a Rubric Marine.

[@thatoneguy9857]

Yep I do mean Imurah

[@Schorfsee]

how more about the not accurate physical look of him, not being lore accurate thousand son.

[@ArtanisTheEvil]

Rise, Son of Gulliman.

[@thesaxon3966]

I thought the thousand sons were dust on the inside? How does one of the. Have. A face?

[@UNION_JACK_THE_RIPPER]

if they weren't strong enough psykers they turned to dust. those who were powerful enough kept their bodies some powerful ones saw their powers increased

[@sidtheragali1447]

their leaders (psychers) remained alive. they guide the basic rubric marines, who are dust inside

[@korax965]

Not all of them, just non psykers, that is the result of a ritual made by Ahriman in order to save his Legion from the Curse of Change (which turned Thousand Sons to a sort of mindless blobby monsters). Long story short, ritual went wrong and all non psykers were turned to Dust and their Essence kinda trapped inside their armors. Emurah Is a sorcerer so was not affected by that thing

[@ShadowGhost0117]

⁠@@korax965all thousand sons are psykers, but the baseline legionary is a very weak psyker. It’s the same idea with how the Grey Knights are, with regular squads being comprised of multiple less experienced psykers being guided by a more experienced one.

[@dragerdet]

so does this game take place before or after horus

[@inotaishu1]

always ironic how chaos followers talk about humanity being imprisoned by the emperor when they serve forces who will keep them enslaved forever.

[@forest8779]

As someone who has zero fucking clue about 40k who was the chick that got possessed by the chaos god?

[@minhhuynhhieu5705]

Omg ultramarine vs the thousand sons🙉🙉🙉

[@ergihazizaj390]

Now imagine this open world I’d loose my mind

[@ichigokurosaki1081]

Open world with vehicles and different biomes and weather with different planets too.

[@WX3-zp3hc]

@@ichigokurosaki1081 you just made me cream

[@tauva33]

And u can play all the races

[@ChiefKene]

@@tauva33Heretic

[@boris2997]

​@tauva33 shut up already with your race crap 💩

[@michaelkadrie786]

Incredible to see, now please make a game with almost any other faction/chapter.....the ultramarines are soooooo boring :(

[@idfpepe2459]

We never had 1000 sons in any of the games before this one tho, alpha legion and night lords next please

[@LukeD-st4xu]

Except that is an inaccurate protrayal of a prospero sorcerer done. They are not long haired emo edgelords. They are bronzed and incredibly tall, there are three books filled with description. Otherwise lore accurate is good. Thousand sons were noticeable tall compared to the other astartes, but much fewer of them. Pretty sure magnus recruited exclusively from prospero before it burned.

[@G_Signer]

Why is thousands sons dude looking like emperors children? Blond Man as a middle eastern styled marine? Wrong😂

[@fadillangston9797]

Pyskers sometimes have white hair...

[@royaltyfree9607]

Thousand Sons aren’t all middle eastern in appearance.

[@austinkersey2445]

The Thousand Sons are based on the Ancient Egyptians, who were primarily Mediterranean (which includes North Africa), Middle Eastern, and even some shades lighter. In that way, it makes sense. Besides, the Legions are not constrained by real-world history to match up one-to-one with the cultures they represent.

[@wintertrooper7918]

​@austinkersey2445 after all magnus has fucking red skin

[@R-M-s1q]

Hello

[@ДмитрийПоречный-ы9з]

Двуликий?)

[@Jonah3427]

Hate how this game is mocking thousand sons instead of making them intersting curse you GW

[@idfpepe2459]

Imurah is a weakling, probably some new blood in the 1000 sons.

[@Jonah3427]

@idfpepe2459 maybe you're right brother

[@miguelarcachero6103]

Peacemaker(SS Isekai):"AMERICAN MOTHERF-"😆

[@vlad111222333444]

0:47 сын Вулкана в рядах Ультрамаринов?

[@idfpepe2459]

Он обворовал арсенал Саламандр и спёр 6 маяк Вулкана, поэтому его отправили к главбухгалтерам на перевоспитание

[@mikewaterfield3599]

So much for psycho indoctrination,

[@Jnaathra]

I'll take the divine knowledge please. This universe is always so predictable and boring. How many times can you tell the same story?

[@johndoe5555]

aren't they supposed to look like a Primarch or an Impi? Perhaps the Smurf genes are really weak in this piece of coal...

[@Schorfsee]

could have been a dathwatch game either.

[@zachar40k]

no, gene seed does not explicitly change someones skin colour or features to look like their primarch, in terms of looks, it varies wildly from not at all to looking very like their primarch, its why abbadon for example is such an outlier, he looks like a clone of horus, where many of the legion dont, in terms of skin colour, only the salamanders have a mutation that makes their skin coal black, in no other legion does this happen, the ultramarines recruit from the entirety of ultramar, and so they have people from all cultures and worlds.

[@nevermore7285]

The only ones who look like their Primarch are the Alpha Legion, which is kind of their whole thing.

[@johndoe5555]

@@nevermore7285 I once heard that the gene seed is dominant and gradually changes the carrier, giving him the features of a primarch. I understand that there are mutations caused by the home world (such as the skin of salamanders). But like, if you’re in a legion of wolves, over time you’ll have long hair and a craving for beer and Valkyries. :) Or if Sanguinius was your dad, then you will also become blond. So yes, the ultra-charcoal looks a little out of place.

[@nevermore7285]

@@johndoe5555 there’s minor changes like that, but they aren’t guaranteed and they’re not typically as extreme as a full race lift. Personality changes are much more common, with them taking on some of their Primarchs. Even then, they can still vary heavily.

[@tigermafia6251]

Thousand sons are so weak

[@JohnDFogg]

A Black ULTRAmarine?! A Russian techpriest maintainig most of his flesh?! HILARIOUS!!!

[@mcswaggerduff8946]

You sound like an infant

[@drlca6601]

you do know every legion has every ethnicity depending on their pool of recruits...? Even the Salamanders are actually mostly non-African heritage, just with mutated skin tones masking, again, every ethnicity. The Imperium has probably over a thousand distinct ethnicities. Thus you could have "black" White Scars and Asian World Eaters, or get this, even a Blood Angel who looks like Wesley Snipes, and my personal favourite, Mexican Space Wolves. Viva los Lobos De Fenris! There isn't an African-heritage Primarch though... considering we don't know the missing two's appearances, and Vulkan's ethnotype is not really discernible, and his skin wasn't originally jet black afaik. While some Chapters may appear to have one prevailing complexion over the other, larger Chapters always will feature every Terran phenotype, with a wide variety of traits, almost like the modern British population it analogizes. If you read the books, you would know that, but you're just a child or troll making a comment like that. This response was for passerby. If anything this just demonstrates we need a "black" Primarch, and yes, Shaq is the only look I will accept as inspiration. GW is clearly behind the times. They'll give us female Custodes before a Primarch who can actually dance.

[@duvipearson6251]

Smoke crack bro

[@Crucial_End]

Maybe the lore has changed since I last read it or DEI/ESG pissed all over it. Not surprised though since it is a GW product after all.

[@zachar40k]

if youre talking about black ultramarines, theyve always been possible, gene seed only changes skin colour in the salamanders chapter, and only rarely makes someone look similar to their primarch in terms of facial features, youre getting mad at nothing

[@Crucial_End]

@@zachar40k no because the melanochrome that regulatres the melanin is there to protect against radiation. If the radiation warrants it they would all be dark skinned. Space marines are neither black or white as their skin color changes with the environment. Lore-wise it makes no sense at all that one space marine is dark skinned while the other is not while both are in the same environment. Ultramarines have very stable geneseed too so mutations are exceedingly rare. This was 100% a DEI decision, it makes no sense in the lore and blatant 2024 leftwing politics in media breaks the immersion for many.

[@therealistintheboot8822]

You don't know your own lore.

[@royaltyfree9607]

What are you even talking about. There have literally always been black and Asian ultramarines

[@CClossus]

You’re a whiny prick, huh?

[@Furious_Slap]

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