Warhammer Fantasy 6th Edition Battle Report | Dwarfs vs Beasts of Chaos

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Rogue Element Gaming

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@grimdarkroast
@grimdarkroast Жыл бұрын
Two well painted armies, facing off on a beautiful table of terrain, played by two friendly dudes... this is peak Warhammer. This is my favorite battle on the channel so far! Excited to see the 3rd battle in this series!
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
What a roller-coaster game that was!! Thanks Stos for the exciting game and such a joy and honour to be on the channel again. So one thing I completely forgot during the game was that the Chaos Furies cause Fear and are Immune to Psychology - so the Organ Gun crew would have auto-broke when they lost combat and the breaking Bestigors wouldn't have caused a panic check on Furies. Would this have made much of a difference to the outcome? I don't think so... but sure won't forget next time I use them in a battle!
@eclecticoelho
@eclecticoelho Жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe you prefer harpies and maybe you can include more dogs with ambush.... Good game, Damon!
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
The terrible leadership of dogs really stops me from ambushing with them. Whenever I have they always end up getting lost and coming on my table edge! Horn of the Great Hunt is always an option I guess….
@eclecticoelho
@eclecticoelho Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 Yes, I usually put the horn for it, especially for the herds. What I don't usually do is place the hounds in panic range of my own units (except chariots or minotaurs) as if they were screens against fire, you can at most protect a unit and not very well. Even so, I ambush with the dogs because with their movement and the possibility of coming out from behind or a side for 30 points it is worth it. Thanks for the feedback Damon, i love your new unit!
@tjeerdates9030
@tjeerdates9030 Жыл бұрын
Next time! Beatifully converted beasty fu(r)ry models!
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
@@tjeerdates9030 Thanks mate! The Beasts have a taste for dwarf flesh and be back for more 😁
@AlbertoQuarti
@AlbertoQuarti Жыл бұрын
Great game as always, thanks for these battle reports! Just a quick correction: those furies are daemons that cause fear so that organ gun dwarfs should have fled at the first combat lost due to been outnumbered by opponent who cause fear, and they don't test for panic because they're immune to psichology
@offroadturkey
@offroadturkey Жыл бұрын
Great game dudes! Still the battle reports on KZbin. I love that it focuses on your personalities and the armies. A lot just have a high cam and a dice roll cam, there’s no personality. You and your opponents have it in loads and it really brings the battle reports to life!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate! Glad you're still enjoying the games and my blathering! 😄
@blastvader
@blastvader Жыл бұрын
Great game as always. I love seeing that Beasts army on the table. Worth noting that all Deamons cause 'fear' (it's under the 'Deamonic' special rule umbrella) so when the Organ Gun crew lost combat they were outnumbered by a fear causing enemy and should have broken automatically.
@leseronvaryn
@leseronvaryn Жыл бұрын
Please go on dude, you're making a gorgeous work to keep 6th edition alive.
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for the positivity mate! Much appreciated 🙏🏻
@benneem
@benneem Жыл бұрын
In terms of tactical advice, I would give two broad points: 1. It sounds weird to say, but skirmishers are bad flankers while ranked units are good flankers. This Beastmen army wants to put Bestigors, Minotaurs, and Dragon Ogres in positions to get flank charges. Meanwhile the herds fight basically just the same in the enemy's front or flank. Even if it takes an extra turn to get that set up decisively winning in one round by cancelling the enemy static combat resolution is key in 6th (and 7th) edition. 2. There is no need to hurry to engage more enemy units in the front when you are making gains elsewhere on the battlefield. All the Dwarf shooting was dying or tied up, it seems to me there were oppertunities to wait for the dwarfs to turn around and deal with ambushers and/or to spend a few turns manoeuvring while out of axe and hammer range.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
All good advice Ben - I’ll take it on board and much appreciated!
@pumbagor
@pumbagor Жыл бұрын
Nice game! In the combat of the minotaurs and the warriors, you should have removed the minotaur on the right, you always have to make sure that there are the maximal number of miniatures in combat. And the minotaurs'd have fled between the dragon ogres and the herd, so no engagment! Also the steed of shadows is cast in a 4+ not 11+... Also, you forgot that the furies cause fear so the organ gun crew should have automaticly fled since they where outnumbered! And furies are deamons which are immune to psichology, so no panic check! I share this information so all of us can improve and enjoy this game even more! :)
@Tyrisalthan
@Tyrisalthan Жыл бұрын
That organ gun should have broken automatically against furies, since they fear-overnumber the crew and won the combat. And chaos hounds have ld5, not 6. When herd killed 5 quarrellers, quarrellers wouldn't have autobreaked since they did have a rank at the start of combat. A double 1 is pretty unlikely to get though, so maybe it was ok. In the multiple combat, dwarf general could have issued a challenge. Any character in the enemy unit that is base contact with the enemy (any enemy will do, it don't have to be with the unit issuing a challenge) can accept a challenge, and move through the ranks to base contact with the challenger. Furies, as are all daemons, are immune to psychology, and don't need to test for panic. For beastmen army, I would suggest to have some marks. For example, bestigors could have a mark of tzeench to give a power dice, giving a little bit more punch to the spells. Instead of two spells for 3 dice each, you could cast two 5+ dark hand of death spells on two dice each and one 8+ wind of death or similar on 3 dice. The battle standard can't then be on the bestigors, but he could have lead another herd instead, which would have been better anyway. of course you could have mark of tzeench on the bsb too, if you can find points for it, to further bolster your magical capabilities. Another option for bestigors is mark of khorne, giving them frenzy and extra dispel dice. 2 attacks with great weapon hits pretty hard even against dwarfs. Extra dispel comes handy against vampire counts or similar magic heavy armies. If you are willing to give your general a mark, then minotaurs could also have one. Khorne minotaurs with great weapons is one of my favourite units, 16 S6 attacks will usually go through even fully ranked blocks. With khorne you just have to partially block your frenzied units charge lines so they can't be baited into foolish charges, and when you want to charge somewhere with the unit you can voluntarily declare charge. If you charge somewhere else with the blocking unit in the same turn, you can move them out of the way so minotaurs could connect their target without problems.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate for the comments - much appreciated. I only realised I had forgotten about the Furies causing Fear (and therefore auto-breaking the crew) and being ITP until after the game - such is the price you pay for senility! I always um and er about putting marks on my units. I keep thinking the points are better spent on getting more bodies on the table - though Khorne marked Minos is something I have seriously thought about. Getting a free re-roll on Psychology tests is pretty good for 0pts and I kind of like my Herd not being aligned with any Chaos God - fits my idea of the Beasts' lore/fluff as they believe they are the true Children of Chaos and wouldn't follow a particular God (well that 's how I justify have a sub-optimal army 😁)...but you never know maybe I'll give a marked list a crack in the future!
@Tyrisalthan
@Tyrisalthan Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 I also want to usually put more bodies onto the battlefield. That is why I dropped dragon ogres from my list and substitute ghem with normal ogres. They don't hit quite as hard, but usually hard enough, and they are almost half their price, so you get an extra unit for those points saved. Beastmen get so few marks anyway, so it isn't that big of an investment to have bestigors and maybe few characters to have one. If you still have time to play before tournament, give it a try. I also would put sword of might to the bsb. S4 is usually not quite good enough. Beastlord has S5 natively which is good enough. You might give one of the shaman power familiar, and other one staff of darkoth and a scroll. And since you have ambushing units, horn of the great hunt for the general makes it more probable that they arrive where you want them to. If you do get the horn, you might want to get few more ambushing units, hounds are cheap amushers and will negate ranks when they charge rear when somebody else charge front. They have poorer ld than herds, but since they are only 30 points for the unit of 5, you get several tries to get some of them to the rear. With ld6 for the horn they could actually pass the test, and even if not they still arrive somewhere, and half of the time the scatter points in the opponents side of the table. If the worst happens and they arrive from the back corner and can't do anything else, they still contest a table quarter, which is over 3 times the price of the unit. Good luck on the tournament!
@recn6149
@recn6149 Жыл бұрын
Since advice was asked for. There were a couple of times when multiple beastmen units needed leadership tests. Each of thsoe time, one of th eunit was the general of BSB. You can choose the order those tests are made to best make use of bonuses. For example 48:29, the generals unit needed a rally test so did a unit of dogs. You roleld the dogs test first on their low LD, then when they falied you rolled the generals unit on hi shigher LD. If you did the generals unit test first, when it rallied you coudl have used his higher LD for the dogs test.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
This is true….I think I’ve been under the mistaken thought that I had read an FAQ that indicated Rally’s were considered simultaneous and so a General fleeing at the start of turn wouldn’t be able to use his Ld to help other units Rally regardless whether he rallied first. Now I’ve scoured the FAQs and I reckon this was a figment of my imagination!
@cain40000
@cain40000 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic battle report. Thanks for taking the time to make these. A couple of little rules mistakes that have been covered in other comments. I'm looking forward to the rematch...
@julienmaes6298
@julienmaes6298 Жыл бұрын
For me, the critical moment was when the dragon ogres whiffed it. By the way, it wouldn't have change anything because of Damon abysmal rolling, but I would have targeted the thane (Bardin Flinteye?). You remove him from that unit and they have no more oomph, and you'll be able to grind them off.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
I agree though it was a risky charge in the first place as the dwarves were starting the battle with 5 combat res(3 ranks, banner, outnumber) which is why I put all my attacks into the rank and file to try and take out as many as possible and hope I only got a wound or two in return….well that was the plan anyway 😢
@julienmaes6298
@julienmaes6298 Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 Statistically you should have done 5 wounds, but the thane would have done 2. The way I would have done that is try to kill the thane, probably flee due to low combat res, hope those damned dwarves don't get me with their little legs and try again without the thane this time. Different strategy, but it wouldn't have mattered when you only make 2 wounds with 12 dragon ogre attacks... Anyway thanks for coming on the channel, love your battles with Stos, so fun and good spirited!
@weirdcorners
@weirdcorners Жыл бұрын
Love these reports! As others have said - best on YT. Great camerawork, pacing, explanation of rules etc. Also the integration of lore and narrative really add to the fun. Keep it up and looking forward to the vamps!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Wow, best on YT is a big call and high praise! Cheers champion 🍻🏆
@inigoelorzlopez3213
@inigoelorzlopez3213 Жыл бұрын
First of all, excuse me for my english if I say something wrong, I'm from Spain. Thank you so much for the videos, I love them and I'm learning a lot how to play with the dwarfs (Dawi power forever
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Glad you're enjoying the vids. Beast herds don't break ranks when they charge in the flank/rear. They have a special rule called 'Raiders' that allows them to act like skirmishers while still claiming a maximum of two rank bonuses in combat.
@inigoelorzlopez3213
@inigoelorzlopez3213 Жыл бұрын
​@@rogueelementgaming Oh, true. Excuse me, you're right. The raiders don't cancel the rank bonus not even when they are more than 5. Do you see? Always learning ;). Thanks.
@the-old-tower
@the-old-tower Жыл бұрын
Love these batreps Stos, best on youtube bar none. You and your excellent guests have pretty much single-handedly inspired me to come back to warhammer fantasy. 6th edition, of course! Please keep doing what you're doing - always a pleasure to watch - and for my part, there will be 1000pts of painted models ready to march from the tower by summer. Cheers!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah dude! Thanks so much. So stoked to be drawing people back to Fantasy! Also, HUGE THANK YOU for becoming a channel member, and at Rare Choice! You sir, are an absolute BOSS! 🙏🍻
@the-old-tower
@the-old-tower Жыл бұрын
​@@rogueelementgaming A very fair deal for the enjoyment and hours of inspiration I've had so far! Happy to know it'll be contributing to a channel that is doing such a fine job of showing off this wonderful game.. and hopefully tempting more people back in the process! 🤝🍻
@ArtOfDuane
@ArtOfDuane Жыл бұрын
Such a cool beastman army, glad to see it back! excited to see how this one plays out with the new units
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Duane - I had a blast playing this game - hope you enjoyed it!
@ja37d-34
@ja37d-34 Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 Hope to see you with your beastmen and maybe others if you have, again.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
@@ja37d-34 I have a Vampire Counts army in the works that I hope to have on the channel soon. Unfortunately I had a Brettonian army but sold it years ago, which I now regret doing - c'est la vie!
@ja37d-34
@ja37d-34 Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 Oh nice! I like the 6th Ed VCs, the book had a nice feel and was fun to face. Will be nice to see! Yeah I know the pain.. I had absolutely nothing left when I came back to the hobby 2019... I only had O&Gs and had previos sold my Dorfs.. But for 40k and specialist games... Ah, 240 metal Cadians? 3 Forge World Leman Russ variants? All gone.. Ah well.. Nice to hear you will be back! Australia seems strong on the WHFB traditions with this, the Border Princes Podcast, the XCELLENT Crown of Command podcast and YT channell. Now it is not just the country of Crocodile Dundee and Fosters (;) ) to me but a strong Warhamemr country!
@Mrkabrat
@Mrkabrat Жыл бұрын
Dwarfs getting encircled again, yet going "Oh no, not again you don't" has to bee how you avenge a grudge. Fun to see two fully painted armies and beastmen getting some love
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Kazukan Kazakit Ha! 📖
@TheRealActualPaincake
@TheRealActualPaincake Жыл бұрын
Always great to see the Beasts running about! If I knew CanCon had 6th edition, I would've been there (were I not on the other side of the world)!
@flossyjostle
@flossyjostle Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your battle reports and loving the videos! Great to see some 6th ed getting love. One question I do have though is about your slayers not making leadership tests, even though they are stubborn I thought they still had to test but always tested on base leadership (so no penalties for losses, beig outnumbered etc) it's been a while since I played but that's how I remember it!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! That is Indeed how stubborn works. Slayers however, are unbreakable. I think we said stubborn at some point in the vid though. Woops!
@williamlegg5514
@williamlegg5514 Жыл бұрын
Might be worth remembering that a cannon can grapeshot which turns it into a weaker and shorter range organ gun (as per errata rules) and can deal with unexpected skirmishers like this relatively effectively! Great game as always 👍
@FA-cf4ex
@FA-cf4ex Жыл бұрын
So I finally finished watching the video. I found the game quite balanced - Especially both army lists. Of course, there's always room for optimization, but if you put the narrative and fun in the focus, you can easily omit this :D. What I like is the less heavy magic/heavy anti-magic approach in this game, which gave magic a moment to shine. Thanks again for sharing this really really lovely content. You guys are heroes at showing why 6th edition was hands down the best WHFB edition flavor-wise. I'm thrilled to see the Vampire Counts when they're ready. Until then: Have fun, happy painting, and keep up the marvelous content!
@joshuamartin2709
@joshuamartin2709 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully painted armies, lovely to see them in action!
@a9876954
@a9876954 Жыл бұрын
Lovely game! It's great to hear a narrative to the battle and your energy throughout the game is amazing. Keep doing them😊
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! 😁
@thurlochocriodain9273
@thurlochocriodain9273 Жыл бұрын
Great game. I loved watching it. It gives me some good ideas for my own army of stunties.
@kilivanjg2813
@kilivanjg2813 Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic to watch, you guys are great narrators and i really enjoyed it! thank you very much!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@bobolegentil9026
@bobolegentil9026 Жыл бұрын
And based on the fact that the beastman player asked for advice, I have one for him :) If you had been more patient with your little dogs, those ones could have removed the flank of a bunch of dwarves on a charge later. So, as an advice, I invite to be more patient with your dog because those ones are the best unit of the chaos army! Timing is the essence. Good luck!!
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and a good point! I always think of the dogs as a throw away unit for redirecting or screening but you’re right they could be used to get a good flank bonus/deny ranks.
@manticora94
@manticora94 Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 the battle standard always gives +1 resolution, apart from being a standard. By the way, no worries! I just wanted to point out these few things, but the overall quality of the channel is unaffected. And many compliments for the army, I am a beastmen player too and I really like your army!
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
@@manticora94 thanks for the comment! In 6th ed you only get +1 combat resolution for having at least one standard in the combat, even if you have a Battle Standard and a Standard - see rulebook p.73 "Note that if several standards are involved in the combat (a unit Standard or a Battle Standard) then you still only add +1, not +1 for each standard. "
@FidefromCouto91
@FidefromCouto91 Жыл бұрын
love to see those amazingly painted beasts back on the channel!
@niceboldt7295
@niceboldt7295 Жыл бұрын
A nice Gentleman game with a lot of cool fluffy moments! Thanks!
@username12120
@username12120 Жыл бұрын
I thought I only had my mate James and his khornate beastmen to worry about coming up against at cancon. I'm gonna have to look out for Damon's warherd and his psych/leadership rolls, now, too.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry mate as you can see I can easily snatch defeat from the jaws of victory if we get paired up at Cancon! 😂
@tjeerdates9030
@tjeerdates9030 Жыл бұрын
Crazy momentum switch half way through there, great game of Warhammer! Strong looking army list for the beasts as well, with the furies and the ambushers to try and counter dwarf shooting. Too bad for Damon that the Dragon ogres and Minotaurs kind of whiffed against the warriors there on the flank, those were the units that could have tried to crack those pesky ironbreakers. But that's dice for ya.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
It certainly was a great game and I really thought I had it in the bag until suddenly it all went so wrong! But that's Warhammer for you 😁
@angussturt-bray4873
@angussturt-bray4873 Жыл бұрын
Another great Bat Rep mate! Just a query if im not mistaken you only get +1 Armour for sword and board when engaged in the front so the Xbows wouldn't have had a 4+ save
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Cheers dude! I don't think that's a thing in 6th Ed my man.
@muldivite
@muldivite Жыл бұрын
Dwarfs were my first army and this game makes me miss fantasy soooo much!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
*wind whistles* Come back to meeee
@viknar6005
@viknar6005 Жыл бұрын
After 2 bad "dwarf fases", i really thought that you were doomned. But, again, dwarfs are always good in pretty everything xD truly, to the beastmen player, it was actually hard to win that strenght possition, many things could went wrong but with luck (well diserved) he managed to surrounded the little ones. Then, a terribly dragon ogres charge....and pretty much the same for the rest of the beast combats....aaaaaa, amazing. Greetings from spain
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it mate. Salute from Australia!
@TheRealActualPaincake
@TheRealActualPaincake Жыл бұрын
OH, don't forget, Furies are Daemonic, and so don't take regular break checks (page 29 of the Hordes of Chaos book)
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
Fortunately they didn’t lose any of the combats so didn’t need to take an Instability test but I did forget they cause fear so would have auto-broke the dwarf crew 😢
@Erkenbrand13
@Erkenbrand13 Жыл бұрын
Always a good day when you drop a new video mate, best batreps on yotube . Can´t wait to see those vampires in action
@benneem
@benneem Жыл бұрын
48:45 oh no! He can choose to attempt to rally with the General first. Would the dogs have passed?
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure I read an FAQ where Rally tests are considered simultaneous so if a General is Fleeing at the start of a Turn you can't use it's Ld for any unit's Rally attempt.... but I'll have to check on that as you may be right!
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches Жыл бұрын
Great to see Damon on the channel again, thank you for another classic battle report Stos & Damon! Here's to many more 6th ed battle reports during 2023, can't wait to see your Vampire Counts in action Stos once you've had the chance to finish them!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! The Vampires are slowly coming together.
@eclecticoelho
@eclecticoelho Жыл бұрын
Great battle report with fantastic armies! Thanks! I have a doubt about redirectioning the charge cuz its difficult without been there know its the correct or not. You only can redirectioning a charge when the new objective its not a legal charge at the beggining, and i think the dwarfs will get in the general herd ignoring the chaos dogs. It doesnt matter anywhere.... I love this videos, cheers up with the vampire count army!
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
I wish Stos couldn’t have redirected that charge but it was all good as he couldn’t have charged my Herd originally
@eclecticoelho
@eclecticoelho Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 Thanks for the clarification! You are true gentlemen playing!
@Thegamesdungeonyoutube
@Thegamesdungeonyoutube Жыл бұрын
really enjoyed this guys, thanks!
@markbradley3440
@markbradley3440 Жыл бұрын
Did I just see dwarf warriors over half way up the table?? WHAT 😂
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Natural sprinters mate 😁
@Quercusilexballota
@Quercusilexballota Жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to another battle :D! Super exciting. Sorry for being a pain, but at 1:46:32 you needn't have done the panic check as furies are daemons and all daemons are immune to psychology.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
You’re right mate. I remembered this after the game, which is a bit late!
@Quercusilexballota
@Quercusilexballota Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 there is a lot going on in every battle, no wonder we all forget stuff here and there! By the way, gorgeous armies sir :D
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
​@@Quercusilexballota Thanks mate! It's ridiculous how much I do forget in the heat of a battle but usually it's things that wouldn't affect the outcome greatly.
@3lch4rly1987
@3lch4rly1987 Жыл бұрын
And you should have fought that round. First of all, every combat must be completed. Then the resolution and checks are done, and after that go the panic checks and fleeing movements. Great battle, best reports in KZbin mates!!
@maurohinojosaalcantara7244
@maurohinojosaalcantara7244 Жыл бұрын
"Muuuy importente" you could say :D. That was fun.
@manticora94
@manticora94 Жыл бұрын
lovely painted armies and great quality as usual. Unfortunately, you made some mistakes: you didn't count che BSB in the "dessert" fight and you didn't count furies demonic rules (5+ ward save, demonic instability, immune to psychology and fear) so the cannon's crew would have automatically break after the first combat resolution because they were outnumbered by a fear causing unit amd they would have not panicked for the other unit being destroyed (that might have changed a lot of things). As always: keep up the good content, just make your opponents review their armies before they play the game
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
In 6th Ed only one banner counts towards combat resolution . I realised that Furies cause Fear and are ITP after the game - I just completely forgot in the heat of battle and it was my first time using Furies - even though I had their rules right in front of me! I don’t think it really affected the outcome of the game - but such is the price one pays for missing important rules of your own army!
@Farmerwal
@Farmerwal Жыл бұрын
Good start to the year
@julienmaes6298
@julienmaes6298 Жыл бұрын
So excited every time I get the notification for a new battle report! By the way, which list restrictions do you guys play? The 2000+ ones from the army books (meaning you would be able two rare units) or something else?
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Yeah, just the usual 2000+ ones from the army books.
@geoffgooge412
@geoffgooge412 Жыл бұрын
So weird hearing my name in a video! Gave my wife and I a good laugh with your pronunciations (first time was best).
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@m4lt3_malt
@m4lt3_malt Жыл бұрын
why doesnt the beastmen redirect their failed attack to the slayers or the organ gun? and why doesnt he rally the genereal first and then the dogs rally with the LS of the general??
@konstantineKein
@konstantineKein Жыл бұрын
YES! The great guys back on the channel :)
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms Жыл бұрын
Just love these battle reports! I may have just bought the 6th Ed rulebook and Dwarf army on eBay, it’s your fault 😂
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
YES! One of us, one of us!
@hessischelandbote1701
@hessischelandbote1701 Жыл бұрын
I am a little bit coco fused. Are they harpies or gargoyles . He roll a 5+ ward save. If they gargoyles they causing fear and would break the crew but fear and winning with higher number, and they are immun to Psycho (no panic).
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
They are furies and I completely forgot that they cause fear and are Immune to Psychology during the heat of the battle and first time using them!
@hessischelandbote1701
@hessischelandbote1701 Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 Sry , most of the time I play in German , and with the German unit names. I like your army, they are fanzy. We started to play in our group with the army book of the 6th and the rules of the 7th. I like the play style of the beast much, but you should bring the drawfs in position for you , don’t play there game ;) You are more Mobil, faster… yes they can shout one or two turn, take the firepower out of the game , and wait with your power until you can break them and charge with one or two units. And chariots are gold , cheap fast and strong
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
@@hessischelandbote1701 So true. It is the mobility of the Beasts army that is one of its strengths. Problem with dwarves is trying to pull units out of their battle line to try and get flank charges. It's hard with dwarves since they tend to sit in a wall of iron and wait for you to get to them. Thankfully BoC has Ambush so you can easily get behind their battle-line (if you make your Ld rolls!) for rear charges.
@hessischelandbote1701
@hessischelandbote1701 Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 there is a chance if you change the use of your dog. For example this time. The situation where your dogs choose flee. Take the charge, and choose the line of “overrun” into nothing, and that they open the flank. There is no different between a Panik check for fleeing or destroyed unit. And Minos and ur lord have the refoll chance of the mark. And good chance to pin and controll are the (here comes my missing English) rare choice , 2D6 random movement. In German it’s “Chaos Bruten” . And if you have problems that the dwarf is not moving ( but i think this is not good for the video), change you placing in the beginning. I’m this battle I would to try : next to your chariot, bestigors, one of your big monster unit, and start the positioning the, “dogs , dogs, chariot, chariot”. And if There is a hill , you exactly know where the dwarf will place there units, you just need the find the direction of his line ;) Have a great time, I just like your army and dwarfs vs beastmans “should” be always your victory! ;)
@lincolnwargamer7582
@lincolnwargamer7582 Жыл бұрын
Your charge at 37min, Two points. 1. I don't think you could have redirected into the Herd after the hounds fled as they were a viable charge option when you declared. 2. If you had done the redirect and the Herd stayed they would rank up to the unit you declared first. As you declare them in order then move them in the same order.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
1. The Dwarf unit definitely didn't have room to wheel past the dogs and charge the closest Gor in the Herd so a redirect was OK 2. You are correct!
@lincolnwargamer7582
@lincolnwargamer7582 Жыл бұрын
@Damon B I thought it had to just be a unit out of sight, for example if the warhounds were in front of the Herd unit the Dwarfs didn't have line of sight to the Herd hounds flee now Herd is visible. I'll have a read of the BRB 🤣
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
@@lincolnwargamer7582 It's just got to be a unit you couldn't have originally charged normally - see the illustration on p. 53 of the rulebook
@MrBenedictus25
@MrBenedictus25 Жыл бұрын
Why did u not turn the cannon and fire at the guys behind u. With the gravelshot or what it is called
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Because I forgot that was a thing 😅
@thordargreybeard
@thordargreybeard Жыл бұрын
Perfect flee Damon. 38 ish mins. Game over if you don’t 😊
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
There was no way that Herd could have stood up to being charged by both Dwarf units especially with that combat beast of a Dwarf Lord - he scared the life out me! So I do think it was the right thing to do no matter how inglorious it was at the time.
@konstantineKein
@konstantineKein Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate! 🙏🏻
@LamboHJ
@LamboHJ 10 ай бұрын
In that Time Thorek slays the Beast General (I see 13.12.2023 21 Clock Europe Time) the 5000 Abonnents is reached I wish you all the Best, next Year next growing the channel. I believe it and I do my little Help to that fantastic sympathic Guy
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming 10 ай бұрын
5000 subs Woopwoop! Thanks for your continued support mate! 😁
@TheKaneCrow
@TheKaneCrow Жыл бұрын
Great Battle!! 🤘
@lincolnwargamer7582
@lincolnwargamer7582 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of posting the army lists with point breakdown? Again mate fantastic batrap. #6erforlife
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Here's my list: GENERAL Dwarf Lord(135) Gromril Armour(12) Rune of Stone(5) Shield(3) Runic Hand Weapon, Master Rune of Swiftness(25) 2x Runes of Cleaving(40) Master Rune of Spite(45) (265) HEROES Thane BSB(80) Gromril Armour(8) 2x Runes of Iron(30) Runic Hand Weapon, Rune of Cleaving(20) (138) Thane(55) Great Weapon(4) Light Armour(2) Master Rune of Gromril(25) (86) CORE 20 Warriors(140) Heavey Armour(20) Great Weapons(40) Full Command(25) (225) 19 Warriors(133) Heavy Armour(19) Shields(19) Full Command(25) (196) 10 Quarrellers(120) Shields(10) (130) SPECIAL 22 Iron Breakers(286) Full command(30) Rune of Battle(25) (341) 20 Slayers(220) Stan, Mus(27) (247) Cannon(100) Rune of Forging(35) (135) Stone Thrower(85) Rune of Accuracy(25) (110) RARE Organ Gun(125) (125) TOTAL1998pts
@lincolnwargamer7582
@lincolnwargamer7582 Жыл бұрын
@Rogue Element Gaming I think need to rewrite my Dwarf list I can never get as many units as this in my lists 🤣🤣🤣
@bobolegentil9026
@bobolegentil9026 Жыл бұрын
oups, the demons are doing fear, so those ones were outnumbering the organ gun, this one should have automaticaly flee, without any roll.
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I realised this after the game 😢 but I don’t think it would have had much effect on the outcome unfortunately
@bobolegentil9026
@bobolegentil9026 Жыл бұрын
@@damonb4505 we never know, a charge on the side at the good time to dwarves, not immune to panic, it can make a huge difference :) I play often against dwarves and it is very fun, for me, when it works hihihi
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
@@bobolegentil9026 That's so true! I hadn't thought about the fact that they could cause a panic check if charging in the flank or rear of an existing combat. Problem is that stupid high leadership dwarves have. Though, as you said, it would be great if you can pull it off!
@HA1LILPALAZZO
@HA1LILPALAZZO Жыл бұрын
always found it weird with the measurements with Panic tests :-/ I mean one of your units breaks or is destroyed in combat in 6" will cause a panic but fleeing units in 4", destroyed fleeing units in 4" and 4" if destroyed by shooting was kinda weird :-/
@f.javier3802
@f.javier3802 Жыл бұрын
Amazing games mates!!
@jeffreyfulmergardner478
@jeffreyfulmergardner478 Жыл бұрын
Hey can you post a link to that battle you Talked about at the beginning of the video
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/larOfH2io7R9qbs
@WarhammerFantasy
@WarhammerFantasy Жыл бұрын
🙌
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
🙏
@v.d8898
@v.d8898 Жыл бұрын
Will you play Warhammer the old World ?
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely gonna give it a crack when it drops. Depending on how they handle the rule set will dictate for how long though.
@MrBenedictus25
@MrBenedictus25 Жыл бұрын
Swap the cannon with a Flame cannon. Just say it is one. This cannon isnt hitting anyway so why have it
@rogueelementgaming
@rogueelementgaming Жыл бұрын
I prefer to avoid proxies if possible.
@ja37d-34
@ja37d-34 Жыл бұрын
Oh nice, that made my day - a new report! Sweet to see the little thicc boyz come out to play again.
@ja37d-34
@ja37d-34 Жыл бұрын
That was entertaining! Damon is a great sport, as are all the dudes you have invited. Great vid!
@damonb4505
@damonb4505 Жыл бұрын
@@ja37d-34 Thanks mate - glad you enjoyed it! I had a great time playing this one and Stos is always a pleasure to play against. Just disappointed my army collapsed at the end as it was looking so promising that the Beasts would be feasting on roasted dwarf again! 🍖🍖
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