Good video as ever, always a pleasure to see Damon play and you always choose great armies. Lots of minor rules errors and this doesn't matter that much in itself - quite a few of them had no effect and others got corrected as you went along etc. And in general I would rather watch you two play with some mistakes than watch most others play the 'perfect' game. However, it is fairly obvious that the two of you are still sort of playing 6th Ed in your heads and aren't connected to what the dice rolls mean in terms of outcomes until you go through working it out. The emotional connection isn't there in the same way as when you're playing 6th as things stand and this is funnily enough a bit infectious - watching it I'm expecting 6th things to happen and have to remind myself all the time in a way I don't when watching other Old World. I guess this will change as you play the new edition more, but just at the moment I think your games of 6th are still going to be way better regardless of which is the better ruleset. I also thought this game was a very poor advert for the Old World magic system. Really don't like every spell getting rolled every turn in a straight 2D6 roll-off in this way. Magic still very important (even if it was mainly just in the one turn), but horribly dull and monotonous. Not a criticism of you guys in any way of course.
@Pandemoniumsway2 сағат бұрын
1:39:47 Is your home rule to not make give ground after combat? Same qestion for army dispel. You can always try to dispel vortex with army dice.
@alvisecattaruzzo986312 сағат бұрын
fantastic matchup
@damonb450518 сағат бұрын
Looks like I was re-rolling failed wounds with the Ruby Ring due to the Hagtree Fetish, which is a no-no....and I did know this , but all I can say is the heat of battle and creeping senility made me completely forget. Mea culpa!
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
All good mate. I knew it too and still didn't think twice when you rerolled them! 😅
@robbyv10118 сағат бұрын
Wow! Just finished watching this in full; fantastic as always! Let's address the elephant in the room, Damon's biggest mistake was leaving "Barakgore" (the one true Beastmen leader!) at home, he would never stand for that BSB's nonsense! In all honesty, I'm struggling to identify what actually went wrong for the Beastmen; one strong turn of Orc and Goblin magic and shooting really swung this one because up until that point he looked to be in the stronger position. Shame we didn't get to see the black orcs in combat, but those boar boyz definitely pulled their weight
@Alex-yg5uh19 сағат бұрын
Awesome bat rep, Old World is the way forward.
@cuddlemuffin44Күн бұрын
That’s the best giant model GW has ever produced. Just large enough, not too busy, no-nonsense. Tombstone tied to a stick. I just spent a chunk of my paycheck on eBay for one!
@stephenweeks1014Күн бұрын
Great game as always! Hope I can visit and play sometime from the US! Quick thing I noticed so far: according to the FAQ hagtree fetish doesn't allow you to re-roll bound spells like RRoR.
@ernestorodriguez3637Күн бұрын
Why is he not a gigante verde?!
@bungledasabrick8280Күн бұрын
I'd say that the -1 pursuit move would apply because you're trying to stay cohesive as a unit while a fleeing unit is breaking up with everyone running for their lives. Just my tuppence. Enjoying the batrep 😂
@Yurt_enthusiast7Күн бұрын
Love seeing a Goblin v Skellies slapfight😊 Dunno if you counted it but Blorcs are heavy infantry and need to be flanked by a unit strength 10 unit to be disrupted, they would only need 4 models per rank
@ErikDavisHeimКүн бұрын
Very fun swingy game! Damon’s such a good sport too, really nice to see a player with such a good attitude.
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
He’s a good egg indeed!
@thomasc6684Күн бұрын
What a spicy batrep! Love to see the Giant and Jabberslythe respectively. Couple of rules things to note: Monsters (and Heavy Chariots) have the Lumbering special rule, allowing a free pivot of up to 90 degrees at the end of their move. Quite early on there was a point where the Jabberslythe flew over the river but didn’t have enough movement to wheel to see what it wanted to, but it could have made a free pivot at the end of its move. Each player always gets a fated dispel every turn, including in their own turns, which allows you to try to make a fated dispel on a vortex cast by the opponent even if you’re out of dispel range with your wizard(s). Hope they help! 🙂
@damonb450522 сағат бұрын
Good catch with the Lumbering rule - I’ll have to remember that one in future. Cheers!
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
Thanks mate! Glad you enjoyed it. You can only do the lumbering 90⁰ pivot if you haven't charged marched or fled. So in this case, wouldn't have helped.
@thomasc668412 сағат бұрын
@ sorry - hadn’t realised it had marched! You’re absolutely right. Looking forward to the next video!
@stephenhanna8490Күн бұрын
1:58:00 Jabberslythe should have been hitting on 3s no? #Justice4JibbaJabba
@JulienBourjaultКүн бұрын
Hello, Nice game as usual. Few things i saw: Turn 1 : The jabberslythe can’t march and shoot Turn 2 : the chariot doesn’t have a LOS on the razorgor to charge so doesn’t need to test impetuous. He can’t charge actually…
@stephenweeks1014Күн бұрын
I thought he said the jabberslythe had move and shoot. That ignores march restrictions.
@damonb450522 сағат бұрын
The Jabberslythe certainly does have the Move &Shoot special rule, so can indeed shoot if it’s marched.
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it bud. Chariots can draw line of sight through Wolf Riders, as they have the "Chariot Runners" special rule.
@jtrain9926Күн бұрын
Great batrep, the armies and table look amazing. Worth noting, the Hagtree Fetish doesn't affect the Ruby Ring of Ruin as it's a bound spell. *Edit, also the Orc Chariots have Warband, so you can re-roll your charges, as does most of the Orc and Goblin Tribes army list.
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
Good catch! Haha, I'll have to keep that in mind for next time.
@dylan9025Күн бұрын
Say whatever you will about Old World-positive or negative-the reduction of magic to just a dice roll is such a bummer. Takes out so much of the, dare I say it, magic?? GW did the same with 40k and it just makes me so sad. Great batrep as always! DAMOOOOO
@briane80Күн бұрын
ToW is just souless, Magic and shooting is boring. I find ToW BR's far less entertaining than the 6th ed battle reports. So many weird rules and one-offs to rememeber for each unit and troop type.
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
I agree! I miss the old magic system too.
@MrCABman1972Күн бұрын
The Boar Chariot in turn two did not need to roll for Impetuous as it could not see anything, I'm pretty sure the Gorgon was too far away and was the only thing they could see. They have to see the target to declare a charge against it, so the charge in and of itself was not legal either.
@rogueelementgamingКүн бұрын
Boar chariots can draw line of sight and move through wolf rider as they have the "chariot runners" special rule.
@MrCABman1972Күн бұрын
@@rogueelementgaming Ah, yes that is true, forgot that. Hard to keep up with all the special rules of all models. ;) Although, Chariot Runners only work if they are skirmishing, where they really skirmishing at that time?
@MrCABman1972Күн бұрын
One other thing I think you did not think about is that you can do fated dispels in your own turn, such as removing vortexes. May also say I enjoy your battle reports, one of the best on KZbin in my opinion. Very entertaining to watch with good narration and feeling.
@MrCABman1972Күн бұрын
Oh, another thing, in turn three when the Black Orc fought off the Harpies they are not allowed to reform to follow after the Harpies, they only get to turn. If they had been Drilled they could have expanded the front rank but I don't believe they are.
@DoomDiver222Күн бұрын
Great looking game as always. Appreciate that you guys are bringing big blocks. Not a fan of how they handled vortex/fanatic/etc movement this edition. Things that “move xD6 in a random direction” actually stay still 1/3 of the time for some reason? Because according to the FAQ the word scatter is implied? It’s lame. Downright offensive for fanatics. 1:12:36 on a related note, vortex spells usually say they deal hits to units the *moving* template touches or moves over, so I don’t think the dragon ogres would have taken hits for moving onto the template beyond the dangerous terrain roll. I don’t necessarily like this but I think that’s how it is.
@stuartmanwaring2 күн бұрын
Where are the dead trees from matey?
@UncleScrooge272 күн бұрын
Stos and Damon, a clash between two absolute legends! Always love to see the beasty boys on the channel, even though I definitely prefer 6th edition battles. The only plus of TOW is that it allows good cheesy Gorgonzola to be on stage, he's awesome!
@knedoshane2 күн бұрын
Warboss Brogg "Porkchoppa" is just awesome! I haven't watched the video yet, but I would follow that Waaaaaaaaaaagh!
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
Cheers dude! He's a proper gnarly boy for sure!
@robbyv1012 күн бұрын
Damon deployed in ambush for the intro...
@tinyelvenmitten17742 күн бұрын
What a perfect way to start the weekend I'm still so confused about old world, but just looking at these beautiful armies makes up for it!
@aaronishappy2 күн бұрын
Damon is a legend! Always a pleasure to see him on the channel. Great batrep as always. I hope one day we can see someone bring Ogres to the table for more bestial barbarity
@Yurt_enthusiast72 күн бұрын
I believe that excellent Jabberslythe was made by Blood Moon Minis. Unfortunately, it's out of production. Also: a vortex stays when units walks upon them, that's why they're often difficult and/or dangerous terrain. Weirdly vortexes doesn't do their magical effects if it walked upon, only when it moves by its own. (Rulebook, VoC as example, page 323) Also also: didn't matter this game but as a charge target that's already locked in combat can't choose to flee it doesn't need to roll a terror test. (Rulebook page 179) Also also also: While it's more fun a "damned by chaos" result doesn't make a model suffer a failed stupidity check, it simply gives it the Stupidity rule for the rest of the game. A unit only needs to roll a single time regardless on how many Stupid models it contains and while it's boring a failed stupidity check says it can moves up to its M which means it can move 0. (RH page 116) Also also also also: Strike last set a models I to 1 before modifiers which means it gets the I bonus from charging. (Rulebook page 178)
@damonb450522 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the heads up on the Stupidity rule I’ll have to make sure I get it right in future.
@damonb450513 сағат бұрын
I think you're right about the Jabberslythe being the Blood Moon Minis "Jabberwocky" mini.
@Yurt_enthusiast711 сағат бұрын
@damonb4505 I was eying the same model back in the days for my own Beastmen project but in the end I ended up with GWs own
@microamperio2 күн бұрын
I love your battle reports! Thanks for creating it and sharing it!
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
Most welcome mate!
@TheKaneCrow2 күн бұрын
Amazing battle between the green and the beasts!! Awasome!!🤘🤘 Remember that "warband" rule for the Orc Mobs ("...if the majority of the models in a unit have this special rule, it may re-roll its Charge roll.") It could may had helped El Gigante... but they do the job against the charriot!
@trompell02 күн бұрын
Damon is my favorite lad. The guest of the guest. I feel like the greenskins are the unironic good guys in this fight.
@farlanewhitty11492 күн бұрын
Great stuff! The Dragonogres should have given ground after their first combat with Boarboys (and taken template hits); the boars would have taken them also if they followed. EDIT:carried on watching and you figured almost figured it out - you don't have to take a leadership test to decide not to follow up with your black orcs.
@rogueelementgaming12 сағат бұрын
You actually do need to test to restrain a follow up just like a pursuit move pg 156 under Restrain and Reform.
@farlanewhitty11499 сағат бұрын
@ - sorry man, you’re dead right! Will be more careful before commenting - thanks for taking the time to correct me :-)
@ja37d-342 күн бұрын
Lovely! Needed something this friday. Always lovely to see Damon too! I prefer 6th Ed still but you make cool TOW-armies and then it is pretty fine.. Can´t stand the minimal units, min-maxing and multiple dragons..
@phillbaska2 күн бұрын
Damon was not present in the intro as he is still waiting to ambush you in the next turn
@rogueelementgamingКүн бұрын
Ha!
@TheTayJay932 күн бұрын
Stos has brought us a new battle report! This is the best hangover recovery I could ask for
@maisonjeannet7992 күн бұрын
great game guys :) i saw a mistake at 1h13min: the impact hit can only be resolved if the charging movement is 3 or more... so the charriot and razorgot can't have it ;)
@thomaswallace75772 күн бұрын
I love the narration! Everything about your video screams time and dedication. Your upbeat personality is infectious and you always make everyone's day. Bravo sir! bravo!
@rogueelementgaming2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much 🤗
@ortwinlowyck73342 күн бұрын
You should have done a voice-over using the original footage, mimicking Damon's voice 😀
@rogueelementgaming2 күн бұрын
Hahahaha!
@nielsbgp2 күн бұрын
Great BR! A lot of the Orc units have Warband, so you can reroll failed charge rolls, I think. Would have come in handy in several situations! :)
@rogueelementgaming2 күн бұрын
Bugger! Defs forgot some warband rerolls!!
@FidefromCouto912 күн бұрын
I'm a simple man... I see Damon's Beastmen and I automatically press like
@rogueelementgaming2 күн бұрын
They are indeed a beautiful herd!
@yaumlamachine69843 күн бұрын
!!?!?? WTH happened here 🤯🤯 !?!? Thanks for the awesome video 😊
@rogueelementgaming3 күн бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@yaumlamachine69843 күн бұрын
Awesome video guys. Your energy is contagious 🤟 As an O&G player who doesn't sport a lot of victories against the undead, this one was a joy to watch! 😂 💚
@rogueelementgaming3 күн бұрын
Cheers dude! Glad you enjoyed the game!
@yaumlamachine69843 күн бұрын
@rogueelementgaming you got a good formula going, keep at it! I especially like your games featuring Greenskins (shameless bias). Cheers!
@aaroncampbell19804 күн бұрын
Vortex of chaos...surprisingly a vortex lol love it
@rogueelementgaming4 күн бұрын
Classic times! 🤣
@Orcimedes5 күн бұрын
What a great matchup. good to see these two agressive armies leaning into their strengths without falling into tournament cheese as for 1:11:15 : I'm pretty confident it was played correctly. i.e., the pursuit/overrun is not slowed down, but they still have to make a dangerous terrain check and the template stays there until it moves. anti-spoiler zone: And what a great first showing for gorgeous george!
@rogueelementgaming5 күн бұрын
Cheers champion! Thanks for weighing in on the overrunn situation. Stoked you enjoyed the game and army compositions!! 😁
@kellyX-s8k5 күн бұрын
Love the commentary and models! 👌
@rogueelementgaming5 күн бұрын
Thanks mate! 😄
@preece11886 күн бұрын
Great work. Leave the mat, tidy or tidy it away, I don't think it makes much difference. Keep them coming! Those Longbeards are amazing. My favourite sculpts
@rogueelementgaming6 күн бұрын
Sweet! Super keen to get them painted and on the table!
@briane807 күн бұрын
Would like to see Anvil of Doom in a 6th ed BR using original dwarf army book - it looks very powerful. I enjoy magic heavy lists like your Orc and Goblin army led by Snaggletooth. It's fantasy after all not historical wargamming,! and it's fun when people can get big spells off (or blow themselves up). Vampire Counts - maybe try Necrarch Lord rather than blood dragon for better magic phases and a black chariot for the lol.
@rogueelementgaming7 күн бұрын
Some great suggestions! I'll give these a try for sure!
@katfezza45707 күн бұрын
That giant is my favourite sculpt of all the giants over the years. I have him in metal and he's serving double duty in my Greenskins and Ogre armies for Old World.
@ja37d-348 күн бұрын
Nah, it is fine filming on the battle field, either works. :) Oh man, those metal Longbeards are soo good! What made me play Stunties back in the day - I had two blocks of 23... Some of the best models from GW ever! Just behind the humble plastic Orc warriors.... ;) Most of the stuff added post-6th Ed is absolute nonsense. Just to sell some new shit.. Cannot think of any reasonable add-ons now.. Might be some.. But sure, try some of that in TOW. Glad you don´t bring it into 6th Ed. :D
@rogueelementgaming4 күн бұрын
Blood Knights are a stand out for me of something cool added post 6th Ed. The Corpse Cart too. Maybe it's just Vampire Counts! 🤣
@ja37d-344 күн бұрын
@@rogueelementgaming Sure, pretty cool. But Blood Knights seems to be a better version over the other Knights? Slap on some extra special rules to get the more immature kids wet about getting something OP.. Kinda.. I actually don´t know too much about the Corpse Cart but the model I have seen was cool and seems to fit the theme.. So sure! But when something "new" is so good you always see it and it is a better version of something old.. The cynism in me wakes up.. it was a more commersial decision from GW than actually making the game better then. There is, was, always better things they could do. Just new models and slightly tweaked rules goes along way. Catering for those muppets unaware of any balance, not caring for the background just wanting the "Best" does not make the game better.. For Orcs and Goblins I kidna like the models for the Mangler Squig and that spider.. but i can live without them.. Maybe for some appendix Forest goblin list or Night Goblin list? O&G have enough prior to that....I would rather have seen stuff made into similar-looking plastic models that were in metal..
@YouTubeuser62948 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see the giant die first turn on his first game 😂
@ja37d-348 күн бұрын
Really cool to see a nice little mob of really cool Dwarf Rangers. Hope to see them soon! In 6th Ed.. ;) I still base for 6th Ed too. Use spacers if you play TOW and really "need" those bases.. I think it looks much better with wooden handles, crossbows etc on Stunties. Not the GW nonsense of the 2nd 6th Ed book and onwards, no wood. So sterile and boring.. Also agree, no huge need for loads of highlights when you batch paint like that. Some chosen places, maybe the command if you really want. A good foundation and washes, ncie bases does alot.
@kwest97478 күн бұрын
Really gorgeous George giant painted there! This guy went through 6-8th ed traumatising my beastmen… well more 6th to 7th. I recall he didn’t quite have the pizzazz in 8th once everything else got a bit more killy.
@rogueelementgaming8 күн бұрын
Thanks mate! Stoked to finally have a big boy for my Orcs and Goblins.