Warhammer Vermintide 2 - Is it Worthabuy?

[@unshavengaming4111]

Why am I watching this when I already have it?

[@ChuckstaGaming]

Because it's Mack :)

[@unshavengaming4111]

ChuckE that’s the exact reason

[@destero8853]

Because now you know why you bought it :D

[@plopperator]

Were you looking my opinion on the game maybe?

[@imp1107]

To confirm the fact that you like it and to confirm nobody else is disliking it otherwise you rant on that page.

[@Dresdenstl]

"It's like a Left 4 Dead clone." Well, it's not like Valve makes games anymore...

[@MaXiMoS54]

Besides left 4 dead was made for PvP mostly, the PvE was quite boring and easy.

[@LittleWasp]

AREN'T YOU EXCITED FOR ARTIFACT????

[@TwitchismyParty]

its a mix of godofwar, left4dead and deadbydaylight lol 😂

[@Dresdenstl]

Not to mention the L4D community is cancer.

[@Grammostola]

I played L4D 1 & 2 solely for the PvE. As soon as I got through everything on expert I stopped playing since I never really liked the PVP.

[@lordzon]

Left-4-dead is dead.. Valve killed it.. So Vermintide 2 is needed.

[@rarepepe4849]

its dogshit though

[@Andrew87454]

Too be fair Mac, there hasn't been a left for dead game in ages so I don't mind.

[@James-xv8xv]

rainbow six outbreak.

[@Andrew87454]

No

[@Gamberbro237]

I bet old man Gaben'll released Left 4 Dead 3 any day now, nyeh Squidward, nyeh Squidward, nyeh Squidward

[@TejMilkMilch]

yeah probably along with the orange box 3

[@bettertobendthantobreak2983]

The Lynch King rainbow six outbreak is not as good. Rainbow six engine is not good for a game like left four dead.

[@Paul_Hardy]

To be fair Mack, loot drops are random anyway, whether they're in boxes or not.

[@I3aI3steR]

plus if you open stuff with for example bright wizard you get stuff for bright wizard thats thats far from completly random :D

[@dreammfyre]

This is how I want a proper MMO to look and play like. First person, no friggin RTS levels of zoom out, fun action packed combat and a nice fast flow. Add an open world and dungeons/raids with actual loot-tables to all of this, and you got a hit on your hand.

[@Sh0cklyz]

Trust me, it would become annoying to click for every auto hit.

[@maviardiv1749]

An fps Path of Exile would be AMAZING.

[@fallis07]

The game wouldn't be a tab target auto-hit mmo, that's his point, he thinks one should play like this game does.

[@aaroncuckstain9845]

Then Russians and Asians couldn't run the run it on there toasters.

[@TheRixtah1]

I've wanted an MMO like that for years

[@Zen-rw2fz]

The loot crates aren't completely random, the power of the weapon is allways closer to your most powerfull weapon in the inventory and you get a lot of them so you can just salvage most of the crap and craft what ever you like. The most important thing is that you don't have to pay extra for them and again you do get a lot of them justby playing the game

[@MrPeterGoldman]

It's pretty cool playing this after going through a whole campaign in Total War Warhammer 2 :)

[@fallis07]

One thing I would mention Mack is that you can only get items out of the loot box that are for your class, so as a Marcus Kruber I'll never open a mage staff for example, and you can earn boxes on one character and open them on a different one if you want the loot for that character instead.

[@iannordin5250]

One thing your missing: the melee just feels so good. It's so meaty.

[@WorthABuyreviews]

I mention that in the summary

[@havalinachiel7694]

@@WorthABuyreviews just subbed . I find it interesting that you also point out at these guys and gals ( the commi ) are actually kind of very nice and they rather stick to what the game is all about , not very into fuzzing and wanking around . action rpg or even moreso hack n ´slay titles usually are very much fun , because everyone is more like " oh , eyh look what I ´ve found - could be nice for your evoker or whatever " . I ´d even point out that some publishers or greyish corp crap champions ruin the hole hack n ´slay genre for them . More like : " It just doesn ´t need to be so funny any more " . - This title here really , for me , no thanks sir . cd time related abd that ´s some sort of highlight ? Where are those crit buffs , where are those double sword wielding speed % etc. Loot which can be obtained like something you loot straight of a amazin box . Oh come on :) So , aside from my own opinions , this review here was still very down to the point , pros and cons , cool

[@Keberus]

Just a little correction: The Dwarf Slayer has no ranged option, but two melee ones.

[@WorthABuyreviews]

Yeah I meant the dwarf class has ranged options, I did not explain that bit well at all, the slayer is a sub class.

[@raycocker639]

I'm glad you didn't mention Left 4 Dead too much... It's like comparing Doom every time you review and FPS game.

[@freakycookie101]

“Is it worth a buy? Let’s read the words, the words..... of the developer” the way you say that haha it’s oddly satisfying.

[@TejMilkMilch]

yeah cause he says it with such disgust and anger it's awesome

[@PeterSpiers]

and the way he quietly whispers 'of the developer'. Always makes me lol

[@TheRixtah1]

To those concerned as I originally was, the developer has confirmed that loot boxes will not be sold for premium currency. All loot can only be unlocked through in-game experience. No pay-2-skip features implemented. Source: www.pcgamer.com/vermintide-2-will-not-have-loot-boxes-developer-confirms/

[@Ghost572]

The first place I come for a review

[@L3G1TPOG]

same m8

[@simonak9699]

Same!

[@hansolo762]

The only place I come for a review! *Fixed that for you!

[@photomorti]

yep same

[@ekstrajohn]

first and last

[@ShebbyYT]

You know it's gonna be a really good and fair review when the first video clip is mack getting his shit kicked in because he isn't blocking or parrying

[@Lictor90]

For me this game did 2 important changes: enemy variety and better levels

[@meatbap]

Kimochi90 imo, the maps in V2 are forgettable, there is nothing that compares to Horn of Magnus in V1

[@Lictor90]

@MeatBap i loved that mission and played a lot but i found overall a better version in Righteous Stand. Imho the fort and cove missions have a very immersive design. V1 was a good game but almost all the core maps felt the same due to the setting and mono enemy faction

[@meatbap]

Kimochi90 V2 admittedly has greater variation and consistency across the maps but none really stand out for myself. Some of the maps are borrowed elements from V1 (Enemy Below, Man the Ramparts) and not even the best elements, these were 2 of the boring maps for fast loot finders.

[@meatbap]

The 'Left 4 Dead' comparison is ironically derivative and lazy, also in no way a negative and not something Fatshark hide from.

[@darkwaver517353]

AS far as random loot goes, the biggest improvement for me over the previous title is the fact that now, when you open a lootbox, you only get items that are universal or for the specific character you cleared the level with. In the first game, you could play with the elf and only get items for the dwarf as a reward. At least they've fixed that. EDIT: I noticed that you can actually open lootboxes with any character, regardless of the character you earned them for. This means you basically have complete control over which character you make stronger with better weapons

[@watchingvids101]

If you listen to this at half speed, Mack at times sounds like he's drunkenly trying to explain the game XD

[@anonymousanon-ofyourebuisn7653]

Hahaha

[@kommissarantilus3742]

a word on the loot crate system, the big change is that you get the weapons from the character you are playing instead of weapons from other character that you are not interested in, in v1 you used to get a lot of gear for characters you dont even play

[@buttergolem8584]

It's like the first game with small changes and more variety.

[@C4Shop]

"$*#& was that French?" :D Dying of laughter lol

[@lonr373]

670+ videos Quality content hilarious commentary and you speak from the heart idk why you aren’t more popular keep it up man

[@TheLobstersoup]

Makes me wonder, if you actually only glanced over the first one. It didn't have lootcrates, but it had dice. Instead of upgrading lootcrates, you'd get more dice and roll them in the end. It was just a more tedious process to get loot and everyone had to go through it at the end of a round. This seems better, but essentially the same: scrap what you don't need to upgrade other weapons. I haven't played the 2nd part, but you're doing the first one no justice. This looks very faithful to gameplay from original Vermintide. And that was quite good, just needed some updates.

[@steelchampion]

Honestly, this game feels more like Vermintide 1.5 than Vermintide 2. You'd be forgiven in thinking that this was still the original and they just applied a major content patch to it, but for £20 I'm not complaining and I'm enjoying it :)

[@Harmi-XD]

I hated the first, this is much more enjoyable with the changes they made.

[@Harmi-XD]

introducing 15 classes, introducing over 50% more types of enemies reworking many systems but keeping the same combat and gameplay style, seems like a proper sequel to me.

[@BadDeirdreBarlow]

Loving the addition of the pros and cons at the end of the vid mack!

[@omgilovesteak6484]

I like the way you say Melee. Not like some say it... Meee Leeee

[@Relhio]

I don't understand the hate on loot crates in this game. It's either you get a screen at the end of the game that gives you the items for the character you play or you get these and open them at a later date on a different character for example.

[@Green.n.Purple]

Because games used to give you specific loot for clearing challenges. Now it's all randomly generated nonsense that prevents you from getting what you want.

[@aaroncuckstain9845]

Lol it was actually the opposite in verm 1 you always got loot for other characters not the one you were playing.

[@Gamberbro237]

I can appreciate it in a way, but I can't tell what'll keep my playing longer, the massive stupid huge wall of challenges like in Modern Warfare 2 or the spooky wall of randomly granted loot I just have to pray my tits off to hopefully get. To me it just matters what keeps me playing longer as long as it doesn't get so ridiculous I feel like I have to grind endlessly just to get what I want.

[@Harmi-XD]

You obviously haven't played the game, it's easy to get the loot you want in this if you're good at the game, which is fair enough, if you can't finish a level, you don't get loot, depending on your performance, depends on how good the loot is, and because powerlevel is universal, you don't NEED a really good weapon. Damage isn't that big of a difference. Plus if you don't like the loot? Break it down to craft the SPECIFIC weapon you want, or upgrade existing ones.

[@Green.n.Purple]

+LukeH97 You act like you can just break down 1 or 2 weapons and get what you wanted. You can't. If you want a charm the does something specific, or a weapon of a specific type, you need to be lucky. All salvaging does is give you one extra chance at the dice roll once every 5 runs.

[@OttoVonGarfield]

I could see a game like this mixing really good with the Gauntlet formula.

[@jick408]

thankyou for making these videos. I also really enjoy the pros and cons list at the end.

[@paranoialife1]

But you do have control on some of the loot. you can select which character to open the chest on to better tailor your loot.

[@roberonin7400]

i got to say i actually like the loot in this one hated it in number 1 but the craft melt down and crafting a blue print for exactly the weapon you want then upgrading it and re rolling stats you can really get what ever you want after you level up and learn all the blue prints

[@jaylaw83]

Cant wait for this on console. The game looks amazing and a big step in the right direction for the sequel. Can only imagine what this would be like in the 40K setting...

[@Soulcommander]

does it play well on ps4? And how do you record the gameplay you post on KZbin?

[@Chozo_Ghost]

Gonna preview Ion Maiden, Sir Mackerson?

[@owenking7928]

I am liking that summary at the end

[@cannibalkrisofbloodtrails317]

Mack = Gaming Vids without the BS. Please keep up the great work\m/.

[@floriandrini6598]

I like the idea of showing the good and the bad things of the game in the end.

[@Grammostola]

It`s L4D in the Warhammer universe with added RPG elements and loot grinding....I loved L4D 1&2 and i love Vermintide 2 because it`s what I´ve been wanting for since L4D2. This game will entertain me for at at least 50+ hours and is available for around 20$. A must buy for anyone who even remotely likes that genre imho.

[@Oaklestat]

The community has been really great for this game. It is really a nice change

[@metalsirene1]

Pretty decent review, though the bit about the loot isn't quite accurate. Entirely understandable, since the in-game info is woefully lacking. Anyways, while the loot you get at the end is indeed randomized, you are always gaining progression no matter what loot you get. The game functions around a stat called hero power. You gain hero power by leveling up and getting better gear. The way you get better gear is to open lootboxes. The hero power of the gear you get out of those boxes is based on a hidden variable that's attached to your account which represents the highest hero power on an item you've seen. Whenever you acquire new gear, either through boxes or crafting, it's generated with a random hero power that is +/- 10 points around that variable. If you see a new number higher than the old one, that becomes the new variable. So even if the gear you get is basic trash, it can still raise your potential for more powerful gear. You can also craft specific weapons with the right salvage once you've unlocked the blueprint via leveling up the class that uses it. So it's still designed to be grindy but tenacity will guarantee you eventual progress and you aren't stuck with stuff you have no interest in (except maybe early on when you have no salvage or blueprints), unlike pure RNG.

[@steelchampion]

I was going to comment with this, so I'm glad you did :)

[@WorthABuyreviews]

What I was saying is the loot being RNG means you can't progress in any specific direction, so I need a new staff but keep getting useless rings, that chest in the video was utter trash, duplicate items and none of the ones I needed badly.

[@metalsirene1]

Like I said, the crafting system lets you make whatever you want so long as you have the components. You just have to level up the class a bit to unlock the blueprints. You can get a bit unlucky early on when you don't have any scrap to use but all that useless junk breaks down into things you can use to craft specific types of gear.

[@Harmi-XD]

Mack you do realise you can specifically craft the staff you want in this and it'll take no more than 3 games if u have ZERO resources.

[@HughJass-cq9le]

too bad i dont have friends to play with

[@SlippyMcDervish]

I agree about the friendly community. Everyone is very helpful and will always revive you if you down.

[@ianipoo]

Mack, you need your own podcast where you talk about current events and your views on the world. We all would subscribe and listen to it 100%. Please do this. Even if it's just you talking into a mic while you walk around town. Rather than just talk to yourself, which we all know you do (as do we all) vent those thoughts for us all to hear. GUARANTEED there will be gold for material. You could call it the *No Bullshit Zone*

[@bricktop.]

HYAAAK!!! Hell yeah! I'd listen to that as well m8

[@bigchonkers47]

this dude sounds like one of the characters in the game itself

[@Nick-vr6fe]

Is it optimized?

[@Rawbful]

Still looks like it has same issue as the first. There is no weight to anything. When you swing the sword and hit something, it feels like you are brushing them with a feather. Unfortunately, I am spoiled by the weight of the combat in Chivalry so this is a deal breaker for me.

[@badboje6040]

Three Koreas? I thought there were only two!

[@FROSTB4NE]

Bought this after your preview, had full confidence once you said you liked it, i knew would be good, you never fail to deliver 😁

[@rhinomechanics8423]

Yep, Like Left 4 Dead 2, But better. I've got SO many hours on l4d2 that this game is an AWESOME welcome of freshness to me. Voice overs a great, lighting, Details.. ect. its like Brave heart Left for dead. I love it its a Blast. I got this on a free weekend and it runs slick on windows 7. . . Its "Worth a Buy" to me.

[@Guanjyn]

I really enjoyed the first game, but from the moment I tried the beta, I knew this second one was better. Especially love the power level system because it was so furiating in the first game when players would join me and my friend playing hard mode and they were like level 1.

[@perer005]

How are loot crates for completing a misson different from getting random loot when killing a boss? Or do you want some maps to have a unique loot table? I think loot in V2 is just random stats on item-types without any real unique weapons.

[@Kie-7077]

The visualisation that accompanies the loot crate suggests to me that either they intended to have paid loot crates and cancelled due to all of the controversy or that they intend to introduce payment for loot crates down the line. The more I watch the video, the more it sounds like they were going to have paid loot crates.

[@Harmi-XD]

They had the same in the first one with no loot boxes, they swore already they'd never do it. Either way, if you're good, you'll get good gear, the best gear is gated behind the hardest content, and for your information, this isn't like diablo/destiny with MASSIVE stat differences with weapons. It really isn't that much of a difference.

[@Harmi-XD]

Also in the first game people were ASKING the devs to put up cosmetic microtransactions and they refused to take more money

[@Kie-7077]

Fair enough, I've been getting a bit jaded with all the AAA co greed that's been going on, I didn't realise Vermintide was an indie game, I'm more inclined to support Fatshark in the future since they shun loot boxes and 'microtransactions'

[@Chronolith187]

New to this channel, and i just want to thankyou for the work you do. The amount iv learnt in the last few days by watching your content has really cleared my view on gaming. So thankyou Mack \m/. Please keep up the great work.

[@WorthABuyreviews]

No Probs, glad you enjoy the content

[@fbibarbie]

2:55 incorrect the slayer subclass for the dwarf has no ranged options. Slayers do not use ranged weapons.

[@WorthABuyreviews]

I meant every class has a ranged option, the slayer is a sub class

[@robgear4362]

Anyone reading this in 2019, the Slayer now has a throwing Axe option through the WoM DLC

[@triniraper]

kingdom come deliverance going good, im totally gona my Vermintide 2

[@o7sendo]

I really hope this game has a workshop.

[@SkyBum123]

Your opinion is always valued. Guess we're playing V2 tonight!

[@otakon17]

4:09 okay, actually I just had a thought. What makes lootcrates worse than random gear drops in something like say, Diablo? Least, in-game loot crates that you don't pay money for.

[@DruuzilTechGames]

Quite a bit of flickering going on in this video. Something up with your recording software Mac?

[@aaronimpactnz]

Is this 1st person perspective only? The character models in the menu look great.

[@fcukugimmeausername]

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK. DONALDS.

[@mememem]

Foot Knight's got a wicked stache

[@infantryblack]

Holding "R" while a mage cools your hands off.

[@SenpaiTorpidDOW]

It doesn't damage you if you are in the white still, but yeah, that's only the very first segment.

[@punish01]

Can saomeone explain to me how does it look like when for example my main char is dwarf and someone else in the lobby has picked the dwarf before me. Does that mean that I have to play a different char which is underpowered because I haven't played it that much?

[@plopperator]

lower you're fov. You look like you've got werewolf vision.

[@ianipoo]

Mack, what's your other KZbin channel where I can watch your uploaded livestreams?

[@MegaBinn]

Mac, are you gonna review Northgard now that its fully released?

[@JohnSmith-wj2wd]

Can someone explain why the Warhammer universe looks so different between games? I recall seeing games with heavy weapons and tanks, yet this appears medieval and completely different, while it still carries the same name.

[@SuBSynKToC]

There is "Warhammer Fantasy battle" and "Warhammer 40k". They are very different.

[@countottovongruber778]

By the sounds of it, the games you're referring to takes place in the Warhammer 40,000 setting, which is set in a science-fantasy universe. There you will find your heavy tanks, giant bipedal war machines controlled by humans on cybernetic life-support systems, and a whole host of other pew pew far-future stuff.

[@JohnSmith-wj2wd]

Ah thanks for the explanation. That clears up the confusion.

[@johnmcintyre9675]

Mac, are you going to release the new Rust WAB any time soon?

[@TwitchismyParty]

👽Anyoneelse who finds gamebugs in vermintide 2 fun to watch? 😂

[@jinxed_jinxed_3443]

"A Zee-lot" lol

[@MoZz..]

What is the Twitch Gameplay about?

[@civilian1598]

May have to pick this one up on Greenman Gaming ;)

[@matthewcrain3821]

I agree with the RNG stuff you should just be able to get what you need.

[@djmandrick]

This looks like the POV is through a fish lens. Is it noticeable in the game when you are playing or is it just my wonky, old eyes?

[@joepnijveld]

Mack, is it possible you could create one of your awesome reviews on 'Into the Breach'? It's from the creators of one of your all time favorite's: FTL

[@JohnCrichton]

Wokmossel damn, ask and you shall receive

[@AzNpowangeFTW]

My concerns are. How much content is there and what does end game look like? Easy as butter?

[@paaatreeeck]

The game may be many things, but not easy. The first game was MUCH easier, and most people never beat the game on the highest difficulty...let alone all the mods from complete masochist that made it stupid hard. Which will also be coming to V2, with actual mod support in a few weeks :)

[@SenpaiTorpidDOW]

This game is a good chunk harder than the original. 2 of the new 'bosses' are harder than the rat ogre. AND there are actually numerous unique bosses at the end of specific levels now which are very hard.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

I don't really play games like this but it looks pretty sweet.

[@Tobikaj]

Plan on doing Surviving Mars?

[@dabobapersona4571]

Hey Mack I really miss your mackscorner videos

[@GentlemenMonkey]

I didn't care for the first Vermintide and was ignoring the sequel out of hand, but if Mack found enough to like with the new one I might have to give it a second look.

[@FMG_MADLOO87]

The one review I've been waiting for ha

[@Mr__Chicken]

Honestly, as a Vermintide 1 owner this game is just not worth it. Literally almost no actual gameplay changes. It's not worth the £20 for very slightly better graphics, new looking enemies, and classes which play exactly the same as before. Why didn't they add actual new classes? Or new modes? Or a better loot system? Or some half decent customisation?

[@undercoverscab5570]

Review convinced me to buy the game. Keep up the good work Mack!

[@Wash1pp]

Its like Left for Dead 2 in combination with Diablo 3. A whole lot of similarities with the grinding and the a lot of loot.

[@shahn0or]

Hi mack, are you going to review Monsrer Hunter world ?

[@dropdown64]

shahn0or when the pc version is out

[@navid3867]

you cant use range with Slayer

[@MrCholoPants3415]

The combat is not spammy in the slightest, mate. You'll recognize that when you start playing on Legend or Champion... You will die in 3 hits if you start spamming attacks. The melee combat is extremely complex.

[@werb9006]

3rd tier dwarf doesn't actually have access to a ranged weapon :))

[@tubey84]

I like the loot crate system... if it's free. Roguelike elements are fine by me in that regard - it's just when the stupid bastards charge money for it that it becomes an issue.

[@per-5786]

Mack you are probably the only honest reviewer

[@alexisdoomed]

apart from dark souls 1

[@carbonated_cat_soup445]

Would random in game loot drops been better? I reckon so. There's no feeling like seeing that orange beam when a legendary drops in D3 even after like a million hours of play lol

[@stijn1113]

Could you review surviving on mars

[@kustomkure]

Vermintide 1 obliterated Left 4 Dead.

[@mlaurence08]

Thangs m8; I got V1 on sale and it was dull, glad I checked this out ;)

[@Samaker]

Mac, please review Into the Breach, just £11.39 and it's on steam.

[@WorthABuyreviews]

Doing it now

[@Samaker]

Holy shit really?

[@Dentar]

Are you gonna review Osiris new dawn?

[@WorthABuyreviews]

Hopefully

[@Gamberbro237]

I'm so hungry for a new Left 4 Dead game but I just really can't get in to this, melee combat where you just point and click to swing just doesn't have the punch for me; doesn't really feel good or right.

[@extrarice1]

this game is about timing, dodging, and using your quick attacks and heavy attacks at the right moment. There is a lot going on if you play it properly. Its honestly way better than L4D which was just a plain point and shoot.

[@SenpaiTorpidDOW]

I mean the equivalent of dodging in L4D was good timing of your pushes, but yeah L4D was way more hit and run than this. I also think L4D was a lot easier to solo, but that's just me, maybe that's just because I put a lot more hours into L4D than I have this game. But really accurate use of the ranged weapons in this is pretty damn hard since you need to get headshots nearly always.

[@extrarice1]

L4D is probably defiantly easier to solo, I think WH2 is much more designed for team-play. The lowest level is easy to solo but the higher ones you need to be playing with others I think.

[@Gamberbro237]

It just feels 'off' to click and swing, it feels like a lazy solution to coming up with a better way to simulate sword fighting; though in fairness it's not like I can come up with anything better. I kinda like how Kingdom Come handles things because it feels like the complexity allows for more choice in how your character reacts to a situation but that system left me struggling just going up against 3 cumans in the prologue so I can't imagine trying to use that system to fight like 20 rat men at a time. Using a gun though just makes sense as a point and click style of fighting. Hopefully in 10-20 years VR takes off and we'll all just play games like this by swinging around real sword controllers having real duels.

[@stuartcooper3261]

Great review Macketh.....as always