ACW: Battle of Malvern Hill - "Magruder Attacks" - Part 2/2

[@charlessaint7926]

What I appreciate in this video is it shows Jackson's performance in the Peninsular Campaign. While a great general and leader on other fields, here it shows his rather indecisive nature that many overlook.

[@WarhawkYT]

I've always said, he is great by himself but under Lee's supervision, he becomes docile.

[@cal4837]

He was probably right to not attack at Malvern Hill though. That Union position was incredible and the Confederates already lost a ton of men in this battle with no real gain for it.

[@twilightgamedesigns4887]

@@cal4837 I think all the Confederate generals should have followed Hills advice and left them alone to leave, would have saved alot of men and material as others have said.

[@Stiglr]

I *really* like your "dusk" effects in the animations. It makes it harder to read the names of units, sure, but that also underscores the effect it had on the battlefield, and heightens the drama: an attacker has only a few minutes of daylight left to break the enemy line!!! Once again, a superlative battle description, chock full of great details, pithy quotes, and overarching background information that brings the battles to life!!

[@WarhawkYT]

thanks Stiglr, weird, I've looked at the unit cards with the dusk effect applied only many different types of devices (phones, ipads, computers) and havent had a problem reading the cards. I know for a long time when we used the black text for the union cards it was kinda hard but now with the white text, no problems whatsoever.

[@Stiglr]

@@WarhawkYT Oh, they're still legible (woods overlays notwithstanding), but the dusk overlay makes them a little *harder* to read. And as I said, that's actually the desired effect! :)

[@deteon1418]

Never underestimate the power of interior lines and artillery. Lee will definitely remember this lesson in future battles… Great video!

[@WarhawkYT]

hmm I wonder when Lee will use that in his battles :thinking:

[@josephwalukonis9934]

But Lee did not remember and thus ordered Pickett's charge at Gettysburg!

[@vassilizaitzev1]

I've walked the grounds of Malvern Hill years ago. It gave me vibes that I was walking The Somme. Nicely done with the video.

[@MatthewChenault]

It’s important to remember that the consequences of the Seven Days Battles would last months afterwards. The wounded from Gaines’ Mill, Savage’s Station, Glendale, Malvern Hill, and every clash in between would clog up the hospitals in Richmond to the point that wounded were shipped out of Richmond because their hospitals were filled beyond their normal capacity. Two Brothers, Levi and Willoughby Windham, would end up passing away weeks from one another after both were wounded at Gaines’ Mill; one being buried in Oakwood Cemetery and the other being buried nearby the University of Virginia’s campus. Some of those men who were wounded would die over a month later from disease brought on by their wounds. Many others would die suffer where they fell, only to pass on and be left in the hollows and fields of Hanover County for years. The grisly horror of this single campaign would forever scar the city of Richmond, Henrico County, and Hanover County. It would be immortalized by the photographers that, years later, would come to these places and take an account of the men who fell over those seven hellish days; images that would forever define the war as a tragedy.

[@WarhawkYT]

Yeah, Lee the Butcher with his first strike, a lot more to come!

[@jebstuart4004]

Well said. Horrific first modern war. Mass murder. The very young private Edwin F. Jemison died at Malvern Hill ( buried Macon GA) that day. His first and only fight. I love military History but, with nowadays eyes, it s hard to understand their massive sacrifice......

[@illinoismotionpicturestudi5065]

I first started watching shortly after Shiloh and have been on the discord ever since. Seeing you make your videos and evolve was an honor. I’m incredibly proud of you Saris, after a year of hard work the days on the Virginia Peninsula have finally ended. Here’s the future

[@gooseberrydell8095]

I love the presentation of your graphics. It makes everything so clear. I hope you some day shift to other periods in our history, like the Revolutionary War. ..Very educational.

[@thomasjmitchell2306]

Your video is amazing! I can see that Bobby Lee have the federals on the run and didn't want to lose the momentum. I also appreciate your in-depth look into the battle showing that DH Hill and Huger were not very cooperative and this also contributed to the rebels losing this battle. I see why Lee made the changes that he made in reorganizing the army after this battle in preparation for the Northern Virginia campaign.

[@gallantcavalier3306]

I must say, Henry Hunt’s command of the batteries is something else. He is the equal to E.P Alexander from the Confederate Artillery. You never hear much about Hunt except at places like Malvern Hill and Gettysburg.

[@WarhawkYT]

in some cases, he was neutered by the general commanding, ie Hooker or Burnside

[@michaelmccabe3079]

Greater than Alexander!

[@bunk95]

Theres electronic artillery guys all over. Theyre often dressed as marketed as part of departments of transportation. My portion of the[ ]systems being nuked. Is yours?

[@davidrosie4109]

Working my way through your vids. Excellent job you’ve made of them.

[@paulceglinski3087]

Been looking forward to seeing this. I think this is where Marse Robert found out that those people had a lot of artillery. Bobby Lee must of been having a bad day to send the boys into the muzzle of the guns. From the looks of your future videos, I can't wait! I hope you're able to weave the entire Peninsula Campaign into some sort of long vid. Most Sundays are Civil War Sunday and Warhawk is the only quality Civil War channel so my playlist is extensive with multiple Warhawk vids. Cheers.

[@WarhawkYT]

glad to hear that Paul! I'm considering attaching all the Seven Days battles together into a single video.

[@paulceglinski3087]

@@WarhawkYT As I type this, I have pressed the playlist to 7 Days. I plan to binge the whole thing this evening. Just wanted to see how it might look. A few odd flips from vid to vid, I reckon. Can't press the like button anymore, but it's views for the algorithm. All hail the Algorithm! LoL. Cheers.

[@marknewton6984]

Lee later asked Magruder why he tried a charge so late against a fortified hill.

[@responder2246]

Thank you for including more distances between forces. It gives one the scope of the engagement and the possible feel of the endurance of the soldiers. (marching/charging 500 yards in 90 degree temps and into cannon fire is no picnic for sure.) Thanks again.

[@matsal3211]

Hold up, let me get my bowl of cereal to enjoy this video😎

[@WarhawkYT]

yummy!

[@gallantcavalier3306]

UNION ARTILLERY!!! MASTER OF THE BATTLEFIELD!!!!!

[@WarhawkYT]

Lets see if the Yanks can hold on to their artillery edge in the future

[@michaelmccabe3079]

Artillery is the king of battle!

[@WyomingTraveler]

Enjoy this video tremendously. I cannot wait to see your portrayal of the northern Virginia campaign and the battle of Manassas

[@WarhawkYT]

Thanks Wyoming!

[@jeffreyallen3461]

Let's go Porter!

[@WarhawkYT]

Porter is the man!

[@CCM2361-]

Really enjoy your channel! Thanks for all the work you put into these videos

[@jamesryan5934]

I remember walking all over this Battlefield .....I always felt I fought here in my Past Life.

[@ericappleman5843]

Dude these are awesome, keep ‘em coming!

[@weekendwarriorsports4406]

This was some of your best stuff. Keep it up. I really appreciated the deep dive into this battle.

[@WarhawkYT]

You're welcome WWS! Glad you enjoy it!

[@jarb674]

You do a wonderful job. Always look forward to your videos and rewatching them while i work

[@WarhawkYT]

Thanks Jar B!

[@jarb674]

@@WarhawkYT of course got to give credit where it is due. Miles north of manassas and having family in the valley its great hearing such great content about the areas around us. Plus when you walk the fields its always nice having the extra information, makes it come alive that much more

[@otlayr3030]

Kind of funny that Armistead put his hat on his saber leading a charge at both Malvern Hill and Gettysburg.

[@brunneng38]

Very exciting videos! I wonder who will win this war??

[@couzdogable]

Great work! Thanks buddy

[@WarhawkYT]

Glad you liked it Couz!

[@SoulKiller7Eternal]

As always...a beautiful video on a battle that I enjoyed walking the field of. It really is a big difference to have imagined just beautiful lines of Union guns and entrenched infantry waiting in such a beautiful formation. A again...it wasn't a Union Victory because of McClellan...but because of his subordinates.

[@WarhawkYT]

glad you liked it! I had the same experience when we visited the battle ground back in may of this year!

[@honorharrington9707]

I love it. Goodwork

[@gallantcavalier3306]

I hope in the Northern Virginia Campaign, you’ll mention how General John Buford with command of a Cavalry Brigade almost caught Stuart, how he managed to scout Lee’s Army for Pope, and how he saved General John Pope’s Army from Beverly Robertson’s Cavalry Charge and protected the retreat.

[@WarhawkYT]

Ill check in with our researcher with what he is writing. I bet we would cover that in some form!

[@gallantcavalier3306]

@@WarhawkYT Wonderful, thank you very much!!

[@danielhess1082]

another job well done

[@WarhawkYT]

Thanks Daniel!

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

Stop uploading videos during class

[@SecNotSureSir]

You think you’ve got it bad? I just got off a 12 shift working in a 3rd world country. But I must watch before I pass out for the day.

[@RodolfoGaming]

You don't have to watch as soon as it comes out the video is still here

[@loyalpiper]

Stop looking at your phone in class, detention for you

[@mathiasmueller9693]

Or work!

[@andrewshaffer225]

@@SecNotSureSir feel that, minus the third world part.

[@gallantcavalier3306]

Warhawk, I have a favor to ask, I saw a documentary the other day on the battle of Antietam, and I heard the historian James McPherson make a comment about McClellan that I thought was the funniest thing. He said in reference to McClellan’s love of everything Napoleon and I quote; “McClellan was fond of Napoleonic phrases and Napoleonic gestures, but with this outward demeanor of a gambler, McClellan concealed the heart of a chicken.” That has to be one of the funniest things I heard a published and well regarded historian on the Civil War say about someone like Little Mac!! I hope that in some way, you can work that quote into a future video, and as to where I got it, I got it from the Antietam episode of the series: Civil War Journal.

[@WarhawkYT]

If we can find a contemporary account similar to that conclusion, we would definitely use it. We havent been big on using quotes from historians in the future.

[@davidbuckley2435]

@@WarhawkYT I also feel that quote is a little unfair to McClellan. While he certainly had his faults and they were many, I think his biggest failing wasn't timidity but perfectionism. He always wanted to make sure his forces were perfectly positioned before attacking, not understanding that the perfect plan is often of the good. It's why Malvern Hill, while a Federal victory, should be classed more as one of Lee's worst blunders rather than an example of McClellan's genius. To paraphrase Longstreet a year later, "no 15000 men in existence could carry that position".

[@greaserbubtheoriginal7923]

as allways well done

[@TheFossilChannel]

amazing. always enjoy watching these videos

[@WarhawkYT]

Glad you like them!

[@travisbayles870]

My Great Great Great uncle Captain Wesley Mellard of the 13th Mississippi Infantry Regiment Co D Barksdales brigade fought at Malvern Hill

[@raylast3873]

Jackson when DH Hill asks him if he should attack: „Weeeeell, Lee never changed his orders so 🤷‍♂️ i gUeSs u better attack 🤷‍♂️ “ Jackson when his own officer wants to attack: „What are you insane bro, do you see how strong their positions are? No way we‘re attacking that“ DH Hill:

[@fortusvictus8297]

I read it more like, Hill: "You think I should Bobby? Jackson: Dunno, go for it, no guts no glory right? *Hill attacks* Jackson: 😬 Trimble: Looks like they are really getting at it...think we should join in? Jackson: Bro...don't you see that? No way. If Lee wants us to attack, he will ring us, till then, stay low and out of sight.

[@Musketsandbayonet]

good job !

[@WarhawkYT]

Thank you Lukas!

[@CMDRFandragon]

Sup with the hand in the coat in some of the General's pictures?

[@micahistory]

good video once again

[@WarhawkYT]

Thanks Micahistory!

[@Stiglr]

Another interesting dynamic in many CW battles: commanders would attack a well-fortified position with even odds (or at times, less). Conventional wisdom says you want 3:1 or better to attack a "good position". All the Peninsula battles were fought without a significant tactical advantage....

[@WarhawkYT]

well, Lee had 3:1 odds against that portion of the yankee line, however, some of his subordinates decided not to attack, ie Jackson

[@Stiglr]

@@WarhawkYT Ah, yes, the legendary Jackson 7 Days Torpor.

[@fortusvictus8297]

@@Stiglr It would be hard to claim Jackson's division could have performed as it did in the coming campaigns had it taken the losses in this battle that Hill's/Magruder's command did rushing an entrenched enemy position across open ground with no real support.

[@Shifty69569]

Ah yes perfect listen for my work day! ❤️

[@WarhawkYT]

Perfect!

[@MrOrdgar]

Henry Hunt was the greatest artilleryman of the war, if not the era.

[@bunk95]

When you use one guy in place of units does whats marketed as murder sometimes occur?

[@Jbird1988]

Fighting this in Ultimate general civil war atm. Double cannister is loaded

[@MatthewChenault]

Lee: “Billie move your troops up to help support.” William Mahone: “Will I fight this time?” Lee: “No.” William Mahone: “Um, okay…” *Proceeds to play with his wooden choo-choo in a corner.*

[@WarhawkYT]

are you thinking of Ransom in the woods? Little Billy Mahone does him part

[@MatthewChenault]

@@WarhawkYT, nah. I like imagining Mahone having a toy choo-choo with him. His early war career is quite minor for the most part. He does fight in some engagements, though his first major battle would come at Second Manassas where he ends up getting wounded with a flesh wound that hospitalizes him for a while. His major escapades don’t come until 1864 where his men accidentally shoot Longstreet and the Battle of the Crater. That and he’s short. So… I like to imagine him acting immature and wanting to focus more on his railway ambitions over generalship until he’s needed, which either ends in absurdly favorable odds or ends up going terribly.

[@guraz1130]

Great video! Thanks! I would like to ask: what do the colors of the regiments mean on the map? Some Confederate regiments are gray, some are brown, some are with outlines…

[@1987MartinT]

Those were the colours worn by those regiments.

[@WarhawkYT]

They represent the colors that the regiments most likely wore during the battle.

[@kvnrthr1589]

If there had been a more competent Union commander I think they could have smashed the Confederates in these battles. Seems during the Seven Days battles, Lee would amass a huge concentration against a smaller Union force, but fail to coordinate enough to win. But McClellan would not move any other units to join the battle, he wasn't even there except to order a retreat. Credit to Lee for choosing to attack regardless though. Despite the tactical failures I guess he understood McClellan's timidness enough that even losing attacks would spook him.

[@desmondsdesigncenter]

Ahhh yes, McClellan's finest hour and he wasn't even there......Sounds about right...

[@WarhawkYT]

amazing aint it?

[@danielkitchens4512]

Don't see why this is considered a union victory when they left the field in control of the enemy and the casualties were low . the union could of held on to malvern hill but because of McClellan they retreated before the battle could be renewed.

[@deteon1418]

It was definitely a tactical victory, the union defeated the confederate assaults.

[@WarhawkYT]

The union held the ground, inflicted more casualties on the attacking confederates, and managed to send them running back

[@MK-tu1zh]

Through your descriptions it is obvious that McClellan was a horrible offensive commander, But his defensive strategies were unmatched. This battle appears to be McClellan's finest hour. It was flawless until Lincoln intervened. The only flaw I saw in this whole battle was the confederates desire to engage in a hopeless battle, and Lincoln saved them from their folly.

[@Daniel-ri5jj]

what's up with the blue boxes of the confederates

[@WarhawkYT]

Confederate Zouaves, we talked about them specifically in the Battle of Oak Grove video

[@Philbert-s2c]

"In just a week General Lee has pushed back General McClellan..." I'd argue that McClellan pushed himself back. Lee may have outgeneraled him-he didn't beat the Army of the Potomac, as this battle demonstrates.

[@davidmartyn5044]

General Lee`s mission was to save Richmond, in that he did. He took the fight to a bigger army , who could have and should have just rolled over the Confederacy. The Confederates again demonstrate the inability how not to co-ordinate anything like attacks and troops, something that was a feature of the South.

[@WarhawkYT]

McClellan to the rescue!

[@davidmartyn5044]

@@WarhawkYT Long dead events, long dead people. What is the good of war?

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@davidmartyn5044 None of that disproves my point. Lee should have been destroyed in that campaign. The fact that he wasn't has everything to do with McClellan and very little to do with him. We will see in 1864 what happens to Lee when he faces a General that won't be unnerved by aggressive generalship. In fact, Lee's aggression never works against a General that doesn't cooperate with him.

[@thomasjmitchell2306]

@@Philbert-s2c I disagree! If Lee had the same pre Gettysburg army in 1864 against Grant the results would have been different in my opinion.

[@ciscoterres717]

"advance rapidly [because the enemy is retreating]" does not mean "all out attack" over open ground uphill against several Federal regiments that are obviously not retreating, but are holding their ground, and backed up with several batteries. Magruder had a curious way of interpreting orders. The order should have been ignored because it did not match the "facts on the ground". I read that there is a theory Magruder was mentally unstable during this time.

[@WarhawkYT]

Magruder saw some "success" that Armistead had and thought about adding on to it

[@bunk95]

The entire areas being [nuked] pal.

[@bunk95]

Dont go near a [doctor] without purpose, they often forced to make [mind] and no one can know if they want you’re central nervous system to be the way it is right now. This goes for the other parts of your body as well.

[@The_Unrepentant_McClellanite]

Huger was coping and seething to the most dramatic extent possible.

[@marklundberg895]

Poor old FitzJohn Porter really did a superb job during the Seven Days, doing the job McClellan should have been doing rather than sitting aboard the Galena. His performance at 2nd Manassas and Antietam were not so good, and he later got shafted by Pope and hostile politicians, but Mechanicsville, Malvern Hill, and even, I would argue, Gaines Mill were well fought battles by the AofP. McLellan should have flat-out ended that war in the Summer of '62. I would argue that the Army of the Potomac that Summer was at its peak, in terms of training, comparative equipment, and morale...and Mac squandered it

[@NelsonDiscovery]

Strategic objective achieved obviously. But the confederates lost large amounts of manpower in normalcy charges at the federates unassailable positions. And only on a few occasions did that amount of lost manpower result in dislodging the enemy from their defences. All in all, the threat of their proximity was enough to force a federate retreat without them having to destroy themselves in attacks that were guaranteed to fail.

[@raylast3873]

I guess they shouldn‘t have tried that.

[@alanpattee4383]

😂

[@arkansasboy2177]

What was the 16th Georgia infantry doing during this battle my 4th great grand father was in the 16th

[@carloschristanio4709]

Lee sure loves throwing men at fortified postions....