ACW: Battle of Savage's Station - “Sumner’s Rearguard”

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After having an all-too-brief brief day to rest and recuperate on Saturday, June 28th, the Union and Confederate armies are on the move once again. General McClellan establishes a strong rearguard position around his former supply base and field hospital at Savage's Station. On Sunday, June 29th, 1862, Confederates from Major General John B. Magruder's Command pursue the Federal rearguard at Savage's Station, following orders from General Lee's complex plan of pursuit, where men from Brigadier General Edwin V. "Bull" Sumner's II Corps must make a stand long enough for the Army of the Potomac to continue its escape towards the James River.
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Sources:
To the Gates of Richmond: The Peninsula Campaign by Stephen W. Sears
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The War of the Rebellion: Official Records of the Civil War
A Bloody Day at Gaines' Mill: The Battlefield Debut of the Army of Northern by Elmer R Woodard
Script Writer - J. Woody
Map Maker - Dystoth
Historical Consultant - Jesse G
Background sounds - Cajun1862
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@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
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@JubalEarly52
@JubalEarly52 2 жыл бұрын
It's unfair for Lee to place so much blame on Magruder, The plan was complicated, ever changing, and ultimate unsupported unbeknownst to Magruder. If Lee wanted to be aggressive, he should have committed Jackson and Huger to the fight from the beginning.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
i agree
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Maguder's performance was no worse than any others during the Seven Days. Jackson and his men missed the battle at Gaines Mill because he decided to nap under a tree when the march enc a small steam. That left AP Hill unsupported but he attacked anyway, and got large numbers of his men killed. And Longstreet held up the advance of half the army by demanding for his men the use of a road based on his own seniority, despite the fact that it meant the divisions already marching on the road had to halt and step aside to let Longstreet's division go by. But one thing about Lee: he immediately forgave the failings of subordinates he liked, and immediately transferred the subordinates he didn't.
@chrisfoxwell4128
@chrisfoxwell4128 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like Lee always has a general or two that don't do what he thinks they should have been doing.
@miketaylor5212
@miketaylor5212 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisfoxwell4128 that sounds like both sides of the war.
@fredsmith8498
@fredsmith8498 Жыл бұрын
From my readings on the subject, Lee did not want Jackson to stay north of the river. Jackson was in a stupor from lack of sleep and misunderstood Lee's intent.
@ferda9476
@ferda9476 2 жыл бұрын
if im ever feeling bad about myself, i like to look into the mirror and say "well at least im not the 53rd Georgia at Savage's Station" and then i feel much better.
@bunk95
@bunk95 9 ай бұрын
Citizens is less associated to killing outside of story than slave is.
@JefferyMckay-qy8tc
@JefferyMckay-qy8tc 9 ай бұрын
I just read my great great grandpa's journal , and am glad I didn't have to live through that.
@mechanicalturk5202
@mechanicalturk5202 8 ай бұрын
Man this gave me a hearty laugh, thank you.
@wxman5401
@wxman5401 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed accounting with Kershaw's regiments. An ancestor of mine, Lt. Col. Garlington who was the executive officer of the 3rd SC at the battle, was killed while pushing the Philadelphia Brigade during the afternoon. Also, JB Macgruder would be transferred out west after the campaign and would lead the successful recapture of Galveston from Federal forces in 1863 which is only 24 miles from where I live. Macgruder is buried in Galveston.
@paulceglinski3087
@paulceglinski3087 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel! Warhawk is the premier Civil War channel, IMHO. Whether a casual observer or hardcore fan, Warhawk has something to offer to all. Outstanding! Thanks for the excellent videos. Cheers.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
i agree ^^
@paulceglinski3087
@paulceglinski3087 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarhawkYT You should know that I'm currently watching the Shiloh full video again. As I write this, currently like. Cheers.
@Moredread25
@Moredread25 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this series. The whole Pennisula campaign was something I never read particularly closely about. It was a much closer thing than I previously appreciated.
@davidvonkettering204
@davidvonkettering204 2 жыл бұрын
Just finishing up Magruder's report on the Seven Days' in the Official Records. He had some uncomplementary words for the "Young Napoleon" and his withdrawal from the battles to the James River. Savage Station has always amazed me---how could an entrenched, overwhelming force be made too abandon 2500 sick and wounded there? THanks, David
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
one word, Mcclellan
@Stormwriter
@Stormwriter 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most frustrating modern-day battlefields. The epicenter of the battle is directly underneath where two major interstates cross each other. There's a spot with interpretative panels, but it's looking out over fenced off private land with massive solar panels. The area where Kershaw's brigade approached is less developed, but there's still some houses in that area. The spot where the railroad battery was brought up is still there, though.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
yep yep
@davebetts9843
@davebetts9843 11 ай бұрын
I agree , I live only a few miles from there and it is very confusing to try and figure out what happened where.
@username60671
@username60671 2 жыл бұрын
You know it's going to be a good day when Warhawk drops a new video. Amazing video as always, keep up the good work brother.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
always an amazing day!
@williamstocker584
@williamstocker584 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for you to cover the battle of Antietam
@chasechristophermurraydola9314
@chasechristophermurraydola9314 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you on that because during the battle of Antietam my 3rd great grand uncle George E Kitzmiller led the brave men of company K First Pennsylvania Reserves Infantry Regiment into battle on September 17th 1862.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
We are very close to antietam, we have after the seven days, a few non campaign battles, Northern Virginia Campaign, then the Maryland Campaign!
@williamstocker584
@williamstocker584 2 жыл бұрын
It’s going to be awesome I already know love your guys videos
@kernelklustrrfukk152
@kernelklustrrfukk152 2 жыл бұрын
This turned out to be one of my favorite video's, Warhawk. In my youth I lived in Camden, KERSHAW County, S.C. and this video only now brings so much more meaning to that county that I spent my youth enjoying bass-fishing and dodging cotton-mouths and the occasional gator (ULTRA-adventure for a mere 10-year-ol' lad - with great curiosity but very minor common-sense . . . !) Thank you again for a TERRIFIC production, Warhawk (and Team)!! And as always, looking forward to your next release!
@carlinglin7289
@carlinglin7289 Жыл бұрын
These videos are very well done. It's hard sometimes when reading about a battle to visualize how the various units moved about the battlefield. The animation really helps. I've read a lot about the Civil War over the years, but watching these videos it real strikes me how incredible it was that men were standing upright, in lines, shooting at each other, sometimes for hours. How they were able to do it is unimaginable.
@mahdiziyafati2626
@mahdiziyafati2626 2 жыл бұрын
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@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@thomasjmitchell2306
@thomasjmitchell2306 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely going to amazing! Can't wait! The Seven Days is my favorite of the war!!
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
glad to hear Tom!
@janelleallison3866
@janelleallison3866 2 жыл бұрын
I’m excited for this one! Thanks Warhawk!
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Janelle!
@gallantcavalier3306
@gallantcavalier3306 2 жыл бұрын
An amazing video, glad to see another episode on the Seven Days Battles!!!
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
you're welcome GC!
@christophero55
@christophero55 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I look forward to each of your installments with great anticipation.
@SamZinski
@SamZinski 2 жыл бұрын
great work as always. can't wait for 2nd Manassas and Antietam campaign
@arcrid8440
@arcrid8440 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! It appears as if the rear guard should have been pinned down and destroyed. Too many parts of Lee’s army remained inactive. If Huger had moved east in concert with Jackson forcing a crossing, they might have been able to cut off Sumner’s line of retreat.
@matsal3211
@matsal3211 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh shit here we go again😎. About to bust out some popcorn and cold coke for this video lol
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
awww shieeet popcorn time
@joelquebec
@joelquebec 2 жыл бұрын
My 3rd Great Grandfather, Pvt. James Estus was killed during this battle. Company D, 5th Regiment Vermont Volunteer Infantry. He left behind his widow Malinda, 22 years old, daughter Julia 10 and son Allen 5.
@Zepellin
@Zepellin 5 ай бұрын
Wait…
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 2 жыл бұрын
Can't be there for the preview but can't wait to see the amazing video
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
sad! to busy gaming i see
@donchichivagabond1578
@donchichivagabond1578 2 жыл бұрын
Ughggg! I gotta wait for the next awesome video!!!! Thanks Warhawks! Great job AGAIN!
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
you're welcome DONCHICHI!
@FieldMarshalYT
@FieldMarshalYT 2 жыл бұрын
The 53rd GA, just wow.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
literal smooth brains
@rogerferrell6940
@rogerferrell6940 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Always look forward to new episodes
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
glad to hear Roger!
@burrellbikes4969
@burrellbikes4969 26 күн бұрын
Incredible how lucky Lee was in this whole campaign. GBM obviously wanted any excuse to retreat and Lee sacrificed a few soldiers at Beaver Dam Creek and George was all “THANK YOU!” and ran. Most of his Corps commanders and even soldiers were performing very well and even winning. Another good example of the Union army (or at least the commanding general(s)) helping Lee better than Lee could help himself at times.
@ArchonShon
@ArchonShon 2 жыл бұрын
20k subs soon. Keep up the good work man!
@zacscurlockshobbies2133
@zacscurlockshobbies2133 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you do the Battle of Franklin
@tomgray3804
@tomgray3804 2 күн бұрын
I like how occasionally the narrator shows some sort of bias. "Unfortunately, Huger, like Jackson remains inactive throughout the day..." I often find myself rooting for the Union troops even when I know they will not win a battle. The Union cause was just. Great videos on the war.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 күн бұрын
both sides gotta have some support sometimes, even when they do stupid things xD
@stekarknugen9258
@stekarknugen9258 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I've come to open up google earth and look at the lay of the land precisely at these locations, sometimes you have to see it from ground view to understand the difficulties of the terrain. Also you Americans are pretty amazing at conserving your civil war battlefields.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
uhhh there are some of these battles that we recently covered that are completely lost to development. Only the bigger, more well battles have been saved. Out of the Seven days Battles, Oak Grove is lost, Beaver Dam Creek is almost completely lost, Gaines Mill is half preserved, Garnets and Goldings is lost, Savage's Station is lost, Geldnale is mostly preserved, and Malvern is completely preserved.
@stekarknugen9258
@stekarknugen9258 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarhawkYT I see, that's unfortunate but still, compared to Europe you have it pretty well in that regard. I went to Normandy and its hard to find even a WW2 battlefield that isn't a parking lot or shopping mall these days, space is limited.
@timothyhiggins8934
@timothyhiggins8934 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think the 53rd Georgia must have been drunk or something to make the same mistake twice
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
literal artillery trolls
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault 2 жыл бұрын
Today, most of the battlefield is gone. Large chunks of it were claimed by I-295 and I-64. Apparently, when they were building the former, they had uncovered a slew of Federal equipment still lying throughout the land nearby the location of Savage’s Station, much of which was saved, but much more may have been plowed over when construction continued. The field just north of the station’s location used to be farmland, but has recently been converted into a Solar Power Plant, which makes the whole area an eyesore to witness. The only section of the battlefield left is the northernmost fringes where the Union Artillery was stationed. Much of it is now wooded and owned by private residents. However, some of the original roads do remain in place as well as the Richmond and York River Railroad, which is an active railway line owned and operated by Norfolk Southern. There are a few historical markers commemorating the Battle along Meadow Road (includes a stopping point), Williamsburg Road, and at the crossroads where Fair Oaks Station once stood. The latter most marker discusses the usage of the railway gun in battle, which is unique due to it being the first instance of a railway gun being used in combat in World History. If you’re interested further in the Battle of Savage’s Station, I’d recommend taking a trip to Seven Pines National Cemetery and Cold Harbor National Cemetery. Many of the dead from the Battle were reinterred in both cemeteries between 1866 and 1867 as a part of the National Cemetery program enacted by Congress that same year (1866).
@ApatheticBeaver
@ApatheticBeaver 2 жыл бұрын
arent you the guy who wanted to have sex with a horse
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
yeah the area was nice, it was better kept than Seven Pines or Gaines Mill
@general-cromwell6639
@general-cromwell6639 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@joshuafogleman2080
@joshuafogleman2080 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again! Great video!
@Michael-ws7rc
@Michael-ws7rc Жыл бұрын
Outstanding.
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for your next video on Glendale. I’ll probably be making a video on some of the dead of that battlefield at some point, specifically on the grave of Captain Joel Blackard of the 7th Virginia Infantry Regiment. He’s buried in Willis United Methodist Church’s graveyard, which isn’t far from Glendale National Cemetery.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
nice dude!
@jarom676
@jarom676 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work on these videos as always. Love your work. However... why don't you use the ANV Confederate battle flag in 1862 and onwards on your maps (is it just because its not PC to use that flag anymore?)
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
the rectangle flags look better with the general portraits, size wise it would look kinda awkward
@danielhess1082
@danielhess1082 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you put a green bracket on the 69th PA, and while a uniform that is essentially a green trimmed version of the 72nds uniform is associated with the regiment, it was only ever worn by company K of the 69th PA
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I gave them the trim for variety
@danielhess1082
@danielhess1082 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarhawkYT yeah, otherwise they get lost in the crowd. They were a mostly Irish regiment like their 69 NY counterparts if i remembercorrectly. The Irish just love 69 lol
@joshk96
@joshk96 2 жыл бұрын
Shame that 7 pines is now a 711 and Savages station is a Solar panel field. I spent last Summer touring the entire Peninsula campaign. Luckily there are few hidden jems.
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault 2 жыл бұрын
Seven Pines is actually the entire town of Sandston, which came about as a result of DuPont needing to make gunpowder during the Great War. Most of the streets in the northern part of town are named after Confederate and Union Generals. Most of the houses here date between 1918 and 1945, making it a fairly established town compared to the newer, boring developments that often take over battlefield land. Also, the original road networks exist as they were during the war.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the warhawk team visited the field back in May of this year and it was kinda sad to see
@1Nathansnell
@1Nathansnell 2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve promoted General Sumner. McClellan I don’t really understand him. Did losing Gaines’ Mill really get to him? Or were the expectations to high? Or was ego to big?
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault 2 жыл бұрын
The issue with McClellan was he severely overestimated the enemy numbers and made his plans too complex to execute thoroughly. He was a methodical planner who often went with unconventional ideas as a means of winning the war. The problem with this, however, is it opens up the room for failure. One flaw in such a plan will result in the entire thing collapsing down on itself. However, McClellan’s major flaw was his _lack_ of initiative. When dealing with a failure, his first reaction was either to do nothing or take time to think about the plan. As a result, he often gave up the initiative and handed it over to his enemies. Joseph E. Johnston suffered from a similar problem, though he tended to be more aggressive than McClellan and saw more success, since he often could seize the initiative somewhat faster than McClellan.
@Fordo007
@Fordo007 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewChenault Yep. "Who dares wins" McClellan would never take big risks while Lee did all the time.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
Sumner is not always there some times.
@Folgeantrag
@Folgeantrag 2 жыл бұрын
In Gary Gallaghers brilliant book about the civil war there is a passage that before the seven days battle is was already clear that Magruder should left the ANV for s new Command in the Trans-Missippi Department. Gallagher said that Magruders Performance in the Seven Days was much better than Jacksons and he became an easy scapegot for the failures of the operation because he was not aggresive and lost his self control before his subordinates and especially this lack of self control was and intolerable behaviour for R.E.Lee
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
Sad my boy Magruder got removed like that. An excellent defensive commander but a sub par offensive one.
@liberalman8319
@liberalman8319 2 жыл бұрын
Why does Magruder have a different flag then all the other confederates?
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
that is the flag of Magruder's former army called the Army of the Peninsula
@thehistoryexpert82
@thehistoryexpert82 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been cool if you could have released the 7 days battles on seven consecutive days
@SMAXZO
@SMAXZO 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Kemper: "YOU IDIOT! WE'RE THE SAME SIDE!" 53rd Georgian: Sorry..back it up boys Kemper: Now FI- 53rd Georgian: CHAAAA- Kemper: To hell with this! Move up, boys!
@conradflagerson1788
@conradflagerson1788 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work
@jackjack_HD
@jackjack_HD 2 жыл бұрын
Sumner my beloved.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
an old dragoon officer
@yankeebrit9399
@yankeebrit9399 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till malvern hill
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@kennethhamby9811
@kennethhamby9811 2 жыл бұрын
Lee was a great general without question, but wasn’t infallible. He made mistakes in communicating his battle plans more than once.
@tacobowler
@tacobowler Жыл бұрын
I love how half the confederate problems throughout the entire campaign can be boiled down to expecting McClellan to do the smart thing in the situation, and then he doesn’t.
@Dawsonguidroz8538
@Dawsonguidroz8538 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
welp
@Dawsonguidroz8538
@Dawsonguidroz8538 2 жыл бұрын
Btw nice job at creating these videos so entertaining and fun
@micahistory
@micahistory 2 жыл бұрын
interesting, I never heard of this battle
@newdogmodel3893
@newdogmodel3893 2 жыл бұрын
Are planning on doing every battle or just major battles? Cause I think id be better if you did every battle
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
major and semi major, the smaller ones the most we wont make
@enalb5085
@enalb5085 2 жыл бұрын
is there a playlist of all the battles in chronological order?
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
Yes there is! Check my playlist section
@edlutz7218
@edlutz7218 Жыл бұрын
Johnny Callison played for the Yankees in 72-73
@gallantcavalier3306
@gallantcavalier3306 2 жыл бұрын
You see kids, don’t be like General Magruder… using drugs clouded his judgement, and didn’t allow him to really fight against the Union Rearguard. So remember, don’t be like Prince John, DON’T DO DRUGS
@davidvonkettering204
@davidvonkettering204 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Magruder held up McClellan for months before taking a medical leave...which he returned from prematurely. at Lee's request. I don't think either Lee nor McClellan handled these battles very efficiently, but Magruder stated in his report that the Union could have brushed his smaller force aside and marched into Richmond.
@gallantcavalier3306
@gallantcavalier3306 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidvonkettering204 I understand that completely, the comment was more of the comedic value than of the opinion of General Magruder as a field commander. He was a master at deceiving McClellan at Yorktown, and it’s understandable why he would need to take such medicines after being asked to return to duty prematurely.
@davidvonkettering204
@davidvonkettering204 2 жыл бұрын
@@gallantcavalier3306 I laughed, so it is working!
@gallantcavalier3306
@gallantcavalier3306 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidvonkettering204 Awesome!!
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
i concur
@kennethhamby9811
@kennethhamby9811 2 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunities by Lee to flank and split the union forces, to much hesitation to attack.
@ImVeryHarsh4020
@ImVeryHarsh4020 2 жыл бұрын
Man if literally anyone but McClellan was in command of the army, this campaign would have been a success, give me Burnside or Hooker who I believe were decent generals, they would have taken Richmond
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely on Lee, and another example of his operational plans sometimes being just kind of nonsensical. I guess he‘s trying to somehow destroy McClellan‘s whole army by outmaneuvering them, but McClellan has both the numbers and a healthy headstart. Meanwhile, Lee leaves Sumner, the actually vulnerable part of McClellan‘s army, to retreat unmolested because he refuses to commit two of the three divisions that would be in a position to attack (and quite possibly surround) Sumner. Which is weird, because defeating McClellan in detail (the only way to win at all) would require exactly those kinds of moves. So Lee could actually come closer to his objective by attacking Sumner, but doesn‘t…apparently because he somehow thinks he can get in an even better position to defeat McClellan immediately? Or maybe it‘s another reason, but either way, Lee is not doing the sensible thing here.
@bunk95
@bunk95 9 ай бұрын
Theres a [car dealership] made not to produce not a prison like effect but is made to produce a workplace shooting. Its marked Fair Oaks as well. (Im a fan of the French NAZI built prison system which is used for places marketed as car dealerships as well.) Reviews vs gross profit.
@carnivoroussoupspoon
@carnivoroussoupspoon 2 жыл бұрын
lol, 53rd GA...you so silly :)
@bucknaykid5821
@bucknaykid5821 2 жыл бұрын
ummmm just curious why Lee got a UFO starred flag?
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
It’s his personal Army HQ flag with the ark of the covenant
@bucknaykid5821
@bucknaykid5821 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarhawkYT cool thanks
@rolo8950
@rolo8950 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta feel bad for all the wounded of the war. They literally lost limbs and other pieces of themselves. Then if they got captured they were basically guaranteed to die if they ended up in a North or south POW camp. Then, when the war was over, all those men who could no longer work or do anything didn't have benefits or anything to even give them a shot at survival so even more died until benefits were instated and created. It's sad and it was even worse for southern wounded because they were considered traitor's so there was not a rush to give them aid after the war. The whole affair was disgusting and every single general on both sides was completely negligent with how they used their men in battle. Every damn general knew that technology had surpassed the old way of line fighting yet they still sent their boys at the enemy in droves, knowing that most would be slaughtered. Very few men who started the war in brigades, survived the entire war unscathed. The chance of surviving the war as an enlisted man from start to finish was like not a chance at all. You were almost guaranteed to be shot.
@rolo8950
@rolo8950 2 жыл бұрын
If you didn't get wounded or killed, you got sick and died.
@donchichivagabond1578
@donchichivagabond1578 2 жыл бұрын
Is it gonna be a short video again? ☹☹☹
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
this video is 28m
@donchichivagabond1578
@donchichivagabond1578 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarhawkYT YAAAZZZZZZZZZ!!!!
@donchichivagabond1578
@donchichivagabond1578 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarhawkYT i am so looking forward to the morning! Thanks Warhawk!
@johncherskov5755
@johncherskov5755 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the US civil war draws parallels with the Peloponnesian war. The south, like Sparta, would end up blockaded by sea, cut off in many ports. Their higher quality commanding and troop quality won most battles, but, after Gettysburg, they suffered too many casualties. Whereas the north could replenish cheap recruits and were even known to draft children, the south couldn't really recover after a single major defeat. Unfortunately, it didn't matter so much that they literally defeated many union generals who mainly failed and were replaced. The rest of it, the slavery idealism, etc was just thrown in for usual greed and corruption, to make the north seem justified in their mainly barbaric and mostly losing actions.
@OldHickoryAndyJackson
@OldHickoryAndyJackson 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you talking about? The Confederates did not have higher quality troops, that's a farking lie, even Southern historians dismissed that, notably Shelby Foote, the super Rebel. Don't comment on things you don't know, that could help you. Go tell your fairy tales somewhere else.
@johncherskov5755
@johncherskov5755 2 жыл бұрын
@@OldHickoryAndyJackson They generally did, if you see the overall scope. You aren't generally told the other side of history: the mounting pressure on Lincoln and his government to get results. That instability and the continued Southern victories would have led to the power structure falling apart. Gettysburg was their massive turning point, a blunder and a phyrric victory where, though the Union again lost a large amount of troops, so did the Confederates. The Union once again showed they could just mount yet another attack with even more troops. For the first time afterward, they could have momentum and start winning, which was desperately needed at that time. The stories of child buglers are not just there for fun, they were on their last people at that stage. It was more than enough to force a retreat, a surrender, and from there justify their useless burning and destruction of their own countryside (Sherman's March to the Sea, etc. which they later just conveniently ignored and justified doing, then had to repair it all anyway).. Fearful that they were losing the war after losing crucial battles and failing at major junctions, they desperately needed a victory at that time. Constant mounting pressure, politically, on generals, caused instability, and it all culminated into the 'invincible' Lee and Stonewall being defeated at their respective battles just '1' time to end the momentum; they were the more skilled underdogs the whole time. As with Sparta, the US south would also go on to lose their war, their armies almost always suffering from problems of being outnumbered, ports blockaded, at some point a blow is dealt and their major force couldn't sustain itself afterward. In the US South's case, they didn't even use their slaves, which I think is further evidence, the North simply used it to pretend to be heroes after the war; they were quick to train negros to make suicidal attacks to soften enemy positions where famously they all died anyway; even the South considered this somewhat barbaric. They later made it into an idea like they were 'fighting for their freedom' in some way when in reality, both sides were about equal in their ideals. While having slightly better shooters, better discipline, it only helped them to win more battles before inevitably losing. There were no 'replenished' troops like the Union was able to buy or draft, and the South did not exactly follow those practices; in a way their 'higher quality' in those regards led to them losing more easily. They only had the armies they initially raised, and usually didn't have anyone else coming to refill their ranks or back them up. There is some truth to what you are saying but it's based on knowing less information than you probably should. Of course you can't have overall higher quality troops 'to some extent', they'll still be highly susceptible to losing a battle anyway, but they surely help a lot when battles are equal or when outnumbered in a good position; and they did, but in any bad battlefield situation, they could not recover after taking casualties in the way the Union was taking. I believe their best and only bet at winning would have been avoid the Gettysburg battleground all together. They really only had 2, arguably, 3 major armies, and Lee being the largest army, he was the final deathtoll when he couldn't sustain battle any longer. To win in that case, they would have had had to continue defending successfully against mostly less experienced Union generals who were pressured to change strategy and continue attacking. Eventually the Union would be pressured to surrender or so weakened that an attack would finally work. The Union were constantly conscripting, changed main generals about 3 times, and replenished their ranks much more fluidly. As well as having port control/naval blockades in place, much foreign support shipped directly to them, who were telling the world they would be the winning side of course. This enabled even easier recruitment, materials to flow, and unlike the South, they could afford major defeats where thousands of people simply died in a battle, and losing the battle, while the South, usually could not sustain such losses. After a couple thousand people died, they had to surrender or run, even if they literally killed 2:1 ratios and won the battles. The rest of it, is the usual, victors writing the history books, and justifying the 'very stupid' actions they did to appear like better people than the losers, even when they were overall in a civil war with their own countrymen that lived vastly different lifestyles. The irony is that even the taught issue, slavery, was only a desperation measure meant to weaken the South and incite potential uprisings, the Union after winning, simply took credit and pretended to be good guys giving rights out later.
@OldHickoryAndyJackson
@OldHickoryAndyJackson 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncherskov5755 they generally did not, equal is about the best you can do pal
@johncherskov5755
@johncherskov5755 2 жыл бұрын
@@OldHickoryAndyJackson I accept your statement but it's ironic you were just taught not to think using your experience and your brain.
@OldHickoryAndyJackson
@OldHickoryAndyJackson 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncherskov5755 you wouldn't get hassled so much if you didn't make moronic statements, learn real history, not just what your grand pappy said. Warhawk does a good job with objective videos, enjoy them without your hyperbolic comments
@ZOMBII11
@ZOMBII11 2 жыл бұрын
Warhawk got a sponsor? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Congrats though.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
yay
@5602jerry
@5602jerry 2 жыл бұрын
lets change history by replaceing a flag dont want to offend history is history fool
@TheBasedGoat
@TheBasedGoat 2 жыл бұрын
ha ha s word
@TLeupus63
@TLeupus63 2 жыл бұрын
The narrator pronounces the names really weird.
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
in what ways?
@mcbassinfaas7285
@mcbassinfaas7285 2 жыл бұрын
...................................... i hope they pay u really well to waste 2 mins of a video talking about nord.
@OldHickoryAndyJackson
@OldHickoryAndyJackson 2 жыл бұрын
Sumner = Joe Biden
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT 2 жыл бұрын
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